01:00:15 <award3535> #startmeeting FAmNA
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01:00:24 <award3535> #meetingname FAmNA
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01:00:33 <award3535> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call ===
01:00:40 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
01:00:41 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <me@justinwflory.com>
01:00:47 <linuxmodder> .fas corey84
01:00:48 <zodbot> linuxmodder: corey84 'Corey Sheldon' <sheldon.corey@gmail.com>
01:00:55 * masta is here
01:00:58 <masta> Howdy all
01:01:04 <award3535> #chair jflory7 masta linuxmodder
01:01:04 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jflory7 linuxmodder masta
01:01:14 <kk4ewt> .hello jbwillia
01:01:15 <zodbot> kk4ewt: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' <vaioof@yahoo.com>
01:01:27 <award3535> #chair kk4ewt
01:01:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jflory7 kk4ewt linuxmodder masta
01:02:31 <award3535> I will give a couple of minutes for anyone else showing up
01:03:26 <linuxmodder> in the  hang time ...
01:03:35 <award3535> #topic === Announcements ===
01:03:46 <award3535> anyone have anything
01:03:48 <linuxmodder> LISA 2016 is  still asking for  talks and deadline is April 25th
01:04:00 <jflory7> I have a few
01:04:09 <linuxmodder> and  curious if  anyone else is  still considering a return visit
01:04:13 <award3535> jflory7 let linuxmodder go
01:04:18 <linuxmodder> EOF
01:04:29 <award3535> ok jflory7 go ahead
01:04:40 <jflory7> Okay, I have three
01:04:42 <jflory7> #info === Call for Nominations: Fedora Server Working Group ===
01:04:46 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/nominations-fedora-server-working-group/
01:04:52 <jflory7> #info The Fedora Server Working Group has a seat open in the working group as a member has stepped down. If you have wanted to get involved with the Fedora Server Working Group, there has never been a better time. Get more information about the nomination process on the Community Blog.
01:04:57 <jflory7> #info === "Fedora 24 Wallpapers: Vote now!" ===
01:05:03 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-24-wallpapers-vote-now/
01:05:10 <jflory7> #info Fedora 24 Supplementary Wallpapers are now open for voting! Fedora contributors that are a member of CLA+1 can vote for 16 wallpapers to be included in the F24 supplementary wallpapers. You can also earn a snazzy new badge for participating in the voting process!
01:05:16 <jflory7> #info === "Call for Contributors: Fedora 24 Release Notes" ===
01:05:22 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-24-release-notes/
01:05:27 <jflory7> #info The Fedora Docs Team is looking for help in writing the F24 Release Notes. If writing docs is your thing and you want to help write them for Fedora 24, learn more about how you can get involved!
01:05:28 <jflory7> eof
01:05:32 * mikedep333 is here now
01:05:32 <award3535> #chair lord_drachenblut
01:05:33 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jflory7 kk4ewt linuxmodder lord_drachenblut masta
01:05:43 <award3535> #chair mikedep333
01:05:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jflory7 kk4ewt linuxmodder lord_drachenblut masta mikedep333
01:05:44 <linuxmodder> mikedep333,  evening
01:05:49 <linuxmodder> o/ masta
01:05:54 <jflory7> lord_drachenblut, mikedep333: o/
01:06:07 <lord_drachenblut> Evening
01:06:23 <award3535> #topic === Tickets ===
01:06:34 <award3535> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9
01:07:05 <award3535> .famnaticket 144
01:07:06 <zodbot> award3535: #144 (Create a budget report and proposed budget) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/144
01:07:15 * ParadoxGuitarist wanders in.
01:07:30 <award3535> this ticket we are waiting for numbers once I get them we will be rolling
01:07:32 <linuxmodder> o/
01:07:40 <award3535> #chair paradoxguitarist
01:07:40 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 jflory7 kk4ewt linuxmodder lord_drachenblut masta mikedep333 paradoxguitarist
01:07:54 <jflory7> It should be pretty soon, hopefully in the next week, from what I've been seeing
01:08:18 <masta> hopefully soon
01:08:19 <award3535> .famnaticket 143
01:08:21 <zodbot> award3535: #143 (FAmNA Cardholders for 2016) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/143
01:08:51 <award3535> this ticket is also waiting for previous card holder to close out
01:08:58 <award3535> then it will be in my court
01:09:05 <jflory7> Did we hear back from inode0 at all?
01:09:18 <kk4ewt> which in my honest opinion should be this month
01:09:37 <award3535> that will be decause and jb to do, I am not involved in that process
01:09:51 <kk4ewt> Ruth had been doing the reemburstments and the ups was on her card (no idea why)
01:10:06 <award3535> kk4ewt i agree should know real soon
01:10:22 <award3535> .famnaticket 119
01:10:24 <zodbot> award3535: #119 (OSCON 2016 booth) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/119
01:10:31 <award3535> masta your up
01:10:49 <masta> ok, so I calculated some travel and lodge estimates
01:11:35 <masta> so it's looking like 4 nights @ $300 ~= $1200
01:12:02 <masta> my travel is my own vehicle, so two tankes to/fro is ~= $70
01:12:28 <masta> the other ambassador to be there is less distant than mine, but I afford him $70 just the same
01:12:55 <masta> then we previously agree on +$200 for swag to go above these numbers
01:13:27 <masta> so the sub-total is $1,540
01:13:55 <masta> that is a liberal number actually, but that is the number I'd like us to vote and approve
01:14:28 <kk4ewt> i motion the $2 for the budget
01:14:29 <award3535> I think we should add a little buffer and say 1.7K
01:14:31 <masta> any question on the numbers?
01:14:50 <kk4ewt> -the +for
01:14:51 <award3535> kk4ewt 2K correct
01:15:19 <masta> award3535, that is fine by me, and of course I'm doing my best to send receipts that fall short of these proposed numbers.
01:15:39 <kk4ewt> masta that give you some buffer in case
01:15:57 <masta> ok, so $2k OSCON budget?
01:16:02 <kk4ewt> +1
01:16:05 <award3535> I would agree to 2K to give some room
01:16:08 <award3535> +1
01:16:30 <masta> +1
01:16:32 <ParadoxGuitarist> +1
01:16:34 <jflory7> +1
01:16:35 <ParadoxGuitarist> sounds wise
01:16:52 <linuxmodder> +1
01:17:08 <masta> I think we have agreement.
01:17:11 <award3535> #agreed $2,000.00 for OSCON
01:17:12 <masta> thank you
01:17:23 <award3535> masta please update the wiki
01:17:24 <masta> very well, I will go forward with the arrangements.
01:17:35 <masta> award3535, yes sir, will do.
01:17:37 <danofsatx-n6> hi folks, sorry I'm late. I'm having severe connectivity issues.
01:17:50 <masta> ah, here is the other oscon ambassador
01:17:52 <award3535> #chair danofsatx-n6
01:17:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 danofsatx-n6 jflory7 kk4ewt linuxmodder lord_drachenblut masta mikedep333 paradoxguitarist
01:18:08 <award3535> .famnaticket 145
01:18:09 <zodbot> award3535: #145 (SELF 2016) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/145
01:18:20 <award3535> kk4ewt your up
01:18:24 * danofsatx-n6 is going to fire AT&T
01:18:42 <kk4ewt> we have an issue that we need to address with the SELF
01:18:48 <kk4ewt> budget
01:19:12 <award3535> #chair jsandys
01:19:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 danofsatx-n6 jflory7 jsandys kk4ewt linuxmodder lord_drachenblut masta mikedep333 paradoxguitarist
01:19:26 <kk4ewt> we have people adding themselves to the budget without talking to the event owner
01:19:40 <kk4ewt> that does not fly with me one bit
01:19:52 <ParadoxGuitarist> Nope
01:20:15 <jflory7> Sorry, I wasn't aware of the protocol
01:20:18 <jflory7> I will remove my name from the list
01:20:56 <ParadoxGuitarist> It was already approved, without them, right kk4ewt?
01:21:05 <kk4ewt> jflory7,  i had messaged you on IRC earlier that you were welcome to come to the event, but as far as ambassadors we are full
01:21:16 <kk4ewt> correct
01:21:24 <kk4ewt> correct ParadoxGuitarist
01:21:32 <award3535> jflory7 you must always contact event owner before adding, in this case the event is full
01:21:50 <jflory7> award3535: Acknowledged, I will remember this going forward. I have updated the table on the wiki
01:22:02 <kk4ewt> now the budget was set for worse case, i am sure the budget will come in under budget
01:22:03 * mikedep333 acknowledges
01:22:06 <award3535> in most cases the owner will put out if help is need
01:22:31 <ParadoxGuitarist> Can I motion that we just email any that have added themselves after the approval and notify them that they are too late, and per a vote will not be re-imbursed?
01:22:54 <ParadoxGuitarist> so we're agreeing to back the event owner in doing this?
01:23:12 <award3535> most times if the event owner has budget room, emailing is good, and if the cost is minor it can be done
01:23:24 <jflory7> I will be sure to do this in the future. It might be a good idea to add this to some kind of page somewhere so it's documented for future Ambassadors as well, as some kind of SOP
01:23:29 <award3535> no vote would be necessary
01:23:30 <kk4ewt> we are agreeing that that event owner sets the budget so they set who will be reembursted
01:23:36 <masta> I'd like to just vote on the total numbers for an event, and let the event owner handle the details of who/what/where
01:24:19 <award3535> masta that is correct, event owners do own the event completely
01:25:50 <jflory7> Is there a page anywhere explaining / documenting the process for Ambassadors to request participating at an event?
01:25:55 <kk4ewt> now if someone doesnt like the way i run my events please tell me and i will back down
01:26:12 <award3535> kk4ewt event owners do set budget and reimbursements are also driven by the attendance of ambassadors, along with reports
01:26:25 <ParadoxGuitarist> I'd still like something in the minutes to reflect this for people that only browse the notes.
01:26:25 <kk4ewt> jflory7,  requesting would be one thing, but in this case that was not even discussed either
01:26:42 <ParadoxGuitarist> As a reminder, if nothing else
01:26:44 <masta> jflory7, I'm not sure it's written down, maybe on some wiki page
01:26:58 <jflory7> It would be a good idea to write it down for future Ambassadors
01:27:11 <masta> jflory7, we could probably improve my documenting it.
01:27:11 <award3535> ParadoxGuitarist what do you have
01:27:24 <masta> err s/my/by/
01:27:36 <ParadoxGuitarist> award3535: for this issue?
01:27:41 <award3535> yes
01:27:48 <kk4ewt> motion Event owers own their events, any and all budget issues goes through the event owner
01:28:07 <linuxmodder> +1 on that motion
01:28:14 <kk4ewt> +1
01:28:19 <award3535> +1
01:28:24 <jflory7> masta: That would be useful for later down the line so this confusion doesn't happen again. Probably would be better for a more senior Ambassador to write the page so as not to mistakenly miss something in the process
01:28:30 <danofsatx-n6> +1
01:28:42 <jflory7> +1 for event owners owning the event entirely
01:28:53 <award3535> jflory7 I can do that since it mostly covers money
01:29:05 <lord_drachenblut> Kk4ewt would you please get in touch with me via email so I can coordinate with you to get you the keys you would need to live stream to YouTube from scale
01:29:08 <ParadoxGuitarist> Can I ammend that "changes to the budget must be approved by the event owner." instead of just calling it issues?
01:29:18 <award3535> I will also update the reimbursement pages
01:29:25 <masta> +1
01:29:31 <jflory7> award3535: Okay, that would be great. Should make it so this kind of confusion won't happen again - I wasn't aware of the protocol for requesting to attend an event
01:29:45 <lord_drachenblut> Agreed to event owner having full control
01:29:49 <masta> jflory7, no worries man... it happens.
01:30:08 <ParadoxGuitarist> jflory7: Events can be different depending on the owner, but after it's been approved creates extra issues.
01:30:10 <linuxmodder> lord_drachenblut,  was hoping we could ahve done that at  bitcamp :(
01:30:52 <kk4ewt> lord_drachenblut,  i will get with you to see if that can happen, i am doubting it will
01:31:11 <linuxmodder> kk4ewt,  I'll have a  stream box  ready  if  you are  game
01:31:57 <award3535> lets keep on track until open floor
01:32:02 <award3535> moving on
01:32:13 <award3535> .famnaticket 146
01:32:13 <kk4ewt> linuxmodder,  later
01:32:13 <zodbot> award3535: #146 (HACKMIT 2016 Sponsorship) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/146
01:32:41 <award3535> jflory7 this I believe is yours
01:32:50 <jflory7> It is. There is some new info on this one.
01:33:05 <jflory7> I heard back from their sponsorship team and they gave me last year's numbers.
01:33:11 <jflory7> They're all detailed and added in the ticket.
01:33:18 <jflory7> It basically breaks down like this...
01:33:51 <danofsatx> ahhh....finally. Had to kill konversation to convince it to work....it was choking on the #fedora-kde backlog.
01:33:54 <linuxmodder> that is a  pricey  event
01:33:55 <jflory7> The smallest sponsorship cost is $3,000, but it doesn't provide a physical space. The Gold tier ($10,000) gives an actual table in the hacker area.
01:33:59 <jflory7> It is definitely pricey
01:34:03 <ParadoxGuitarist> pffffffffffffff
01:34:06 <jflory7> I don't think it's quite worth it at that price
01:34:18 <jflory7> The only alternative would be if we want to seek some kind of relationship with Red Hat for this one
01:34:22 <jflory7> Similar to how OSCON is happening
01:34:29 <ParadoxGuitarist> +1
01:34:32 <mikedep333> +1
01:34:35 <jflory7> It might be in the interests of Red Hat's EDU team too
01:34:48 <linuxmodder> if we can do something with rh i'm +!
01:34:50 <jsandys> +1
01:34:54 <award3535> yeah, but OSCON footed by RH costs alot less
01:35:29 <jflory7> I think spot might be the person to contact for this one as far as I know, so I could reach out to him about this and see if it's something Red Hat might be interested in. If not, I think we can skip over this event.
01:35:30 <award3535> jflory7 if you could contact them, what is the worst they could say
01:35:40 <danofsatx> +1 with RH
01:35:50 <jflory7> award3535: That's what I was thinking too
01:35:52 <jsandys> Seems like the sponsorship are aimed at companies that are hiring
01:35:58 <ParadoxGuitarist> If they're not going then we might as well not.
01:36:13 <jflory7> So, for now, I'll reach out to spot next and get his opinion / thoughts on this one
01:36:26 <ParadoxGuitarist> +1
01:36:27 <award3535> jflory7 please do, give us some information
01:36:31 <ParadoxGuitarist> Spot knows what's up.
01:36:32 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Reach out to spot about the possibility of a Red Hat + Fedora relationship for HACKMIT and if this would be possible
01:36:38 <jflory7> eof for this ticket from me
01:37:01 <award3535> .famnaticket 147
01:37:02 <zodbot> award3535: #147 (RIT NASA Space Apps 2016) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/147
01:37:08 <kk4ewt> +1 to hand off to RH
01:37:23 <award3535> jflory7 this on is yours too, looks interesting
01:37:33 <jflory7> This one is short and simple
01:37:38 <ParadoxGuitarist> +1
01:38:00 <jflory7> Next weekend (not this one) is the NASA Space Apps Challenge. NASA runs an event that happens over the weekend all over the world, and universities or organizations can have local events to support it.
01:38:09 <jflory7> RIT is having one that weekend, and I was planning on attending as an Ambassador
01:38:24 <kk4ewt> +1
01:38:25 <jflory7> No cost for this outside of shipping some light swag to me for the weekend, e.g. stickers / pens / media
01:38:29 <linuxmodder> +1
01:38:31 <jflory7> kk4ewt forecasted $10 for the total costs
01:38:33 <jflory7> eof
01:38:37 <award3535> +1
01:38:46 <jsandys> +1
01:38:49 * mikedep333 needs to get going, later guys
01:39:04 <jflory7> mikedep333: See you later! Good luck on your interview tomorrow. :)
01:39:33 <mikedep333> thanks!
01:39:49 * ParadoxGuitarist waves.
01:39:55 <ParadoxGuitarist> what's next?
01:40:06 <award3535> jflory7 what is the estimated total
01:40:13 <kk4ewt> $10
01:40:17 <jflory7> award3535: No costs outside of shipping for this. I'd be attending as a local
01:40:32 <award3535> so about 50
01:40:36 <award3535> tops
01:40:39 <kk4ewt> yes
01:40:51 <jflory7> People in attendance or cost?
01:41:08 <kk4ewt> total budget which is shipping at this point
01:41:24 <jflory7> Okay, yeah, $50 should be plenty to cover any and all shipping
01:41:28 <award3535> I move to vote on $50.00 to budget
01:41:32 <jflory7> +1
01:41:34 <kk4ewt> +1
01:41:35 <masta> +1
01:41:37 <ParadoxGuitarist> +1
01:41:39 <jsandys> +1
01:41:41 <award3535> +1
01:42:13 <jflory7> If agreed, I will be sure to update wiki page and ticket promptly with the info
01:42:47 <award3535> #agreed $50.00 for the event
01:42:59 <award3535> jflory7 please update the wiki
01:43:03 <danofsatx> +1
01:43:05 <jflory7> Doing so now
01:43:24 <award3535> ok moving on
01:43:27 <award3535> #topic == Open Floor ===
01:43:36 <kk4ewt> where is lfnw
01:44:00 <jsandys> Banners on their way
01:44:06 <ParadoxGuitarist> I'm shippnig the box tomorrow morning
01:44:13 <kk4ewt> with the table cloth
01:44:15 <award3535> their budget was approved some time ago and things are rolling
01:44:20 <jsandys> and that is the other shoe
01:44:30 <ParadoxGuitarist> Just want to make sure you know we have no F23 media
01:44:37 <jflory7> The East Coast event box tablecloth could use another wash
01:44:44 <jsandys> OK on media
01:45:03 <jflory7> It got a little bit messy at Bitcamp
01:45:22 <ParadoxGuitarist> We only have one table cloth right?
01:45:27 <kk4ewt> jflory7,  i wish you had said that before
01:45:32 <kk4ewt> ParadoxGuitarist,  yep
01:45:54 <jflory7> I was going to take the event box back with me because it didn't seem like Bitcamp did drop shipping, but they sent it from the event
01:46:09 <jsandys> I am looking for a large monitor for the supertuxkart tournament
01:46:11 <jflory7> It was something I just remembered now
01:46:38 <ParadoxGuitarist> jsandys: I might have a projector I can put in the box if you want it
01:46:41 <jsandys> I have a black tablecloth that we used last year
01:47:37 <jsandys> I don't think a projector will work, you were there last year, let me think about it.
01:47:52 <kk4ewt> jsandys,  look at the tablecloth you can descide if you want to use or not
01:48:21 <ParadoxGuitarist> I'll update the ticket with tracking number tomorrow.
01:48:45 <award3535> keep in mind I will need all the shipping costs forwarded to me as well
01:48:50 <jsandys> The table cloth I have is from my dahlia club
01:49:13 <ParadoxGuitarist> award3535: Can you look up the cost with the tracking number?
01:49:39 <award3535> nope, you will have to forward me the receipt copy or electronic receipt
01:49:42 <linuxmodder> if you are logged in as the account holder you should be able to
01:49:58 <ParadoxGuitarist> kk. I'll ask vwbusguy to send it.
01:50:11 * ParadoxGuitarist is the shipping point but can't print shipping lables
01:50:18 <ParadoxGuitarist> Can we fix that?
01:50:27 <award3535> I do not have access to that coast shippers
01:50:39 <ParadoxGuitarist> who does?
01:50:51 <award3535> once I get the card a guess the bill comes to me
01:51:01 <award3535> but I dont have the card yet
01:51:24 <ParadoxGuitarist> Do we know who manages the shipping accounts?
01:51:26 <kk4ewt> ParadoxGuitarist,  nb was suppose to fix that a year ago
01:51:36 <jflory7> !
01:51:44 <ParadoxGuitarist> kk4ewt: I thought I remember soemthing like that but it never got followed up on.
01:51:54 <kk4ewt> #action nb get ParadoxGuitarist on the ups account
01:52:45 <kk4ewt> jsandys,  the fedora tablecloth is with the banners
01:52:49 <jflory7> I have one more thing once everything else is finished
01:53:10 <award3535> jflory7 go
01:53:13 <jsandys> I will check it out and clean it if required
01:54:05 <jflory7> #info The BrickHack 2016 Event Report was published on the Fedora Community Blog. The report looks at what happened at the event and takes a preliminary look at the impact we had at the event. More specific metrics are forthcoming.
01:54:07 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/brickhack-2016-event-report/
01:54:59 <linuxmodder> on that note  let's tag up with cydrobolt on the  bitcamp event report and not  wait  almost  4 weeks
01:55:40 <ParadoxGuitarist> Good meeting guys
01:56:05 <jflory7> Question about event reports... are they the responsibility of the event owner or each Ambassador that attended the event? I don't think I remember finding that information anywhere
01:56:31 <ParadoxGuitarist> Anyone who's requesting reimbursement iirc
01:56:35 <jflory7> If the latter, I need to get started on one for my personal blog as well for Bitcamp
01:56:39 <kk4ewt> jflory7,  the owner and all ambassadors that get getting reembursted
01:56:46 <jflory7> Okay, that's good to know, thanks
01:56:53 <jflory7> I'll get started on my personal blog with one too
01:57:06 <jflory7> cydrobolt's can go on the Community Blog as the event owner if he chooses
01:57:06 <award3535> linuxmodder agree, since I will be bending the ears for reimbursements, event reports can be joint but must be put on their blogs as well
01:57:13 <Guest62971> Hi
01:57:31 <Guest62971> jflory7, I can write it tomorrow
01:57:44 <jflory7> Guest36051: Are you cydrobolt?
01:57:49 <Guest62971> I don't really maintian a personal blog
01:57:51 <Guest62971> yes
01:57:52 <linuxmodder> I'll have my blog  post  out by   sat  morning
01:57:53 <Guest62971> oops, my username
01:58:00 <kk4ewt> we dont care if its a community blog or personal but we need reports and those reports need to be linked on the event wiki page
01:58:07 <jflory7> Sounds good
01:58:13 <Guest62971> ^
01:58:20 <jflory7> Will get on it
01:58:34 <award3535> as individuals as well. Prime example OLF, kk4ewt and my report were as one, but posted on several links by both of us
01:58:44 <jflory7> Guest36051 / linuxmodder: I just got the pictures from Bitcamp synced up on my Dropbox, so I will share the link for those with you whenever you need them
01:59:01 <jflory7> cydrobolt: I just got the pictures from Bitcamp synced up on my Dropbox, so I will share the link for those with you whenever you need them
01:59:02 <linuxmodder> jflory7,  cool
01:59:22 <award3535> cydrobolt report is a critical part of getting your money back
01:59:40 <kk4ewt> award3535,  what do you consider time after the event for the event to be closed out ?
02:00:41 <award3535> ruth and I discussed some time ago the max will be 14 days after the event, 4 days is the standard listed on the reimbursement guidlines
02:00:42 <cydrobolt> please do, thank you
02:00:43 <cydrobolt> award3535, yes I'm aware
02:00:44 <cydrobolt> I've been swamped and haven't been able to sleep before 1am for the past 2 weeks
02:00:45 <cydrobolt> so I am looking to write it tomorrow or over the weekend
02:01:46 <award3535> kk4ewt I will put together a single point of reference and guidlines decause and I have been discussing
02:02:18 <jflory7> Having that number written somewhere would definitely be helpful, yeah
02:03:02 <jflory7> Anything else for tonight?
02:03:09 <award3535> ok everyone, great meeting tonight, we are out of time
02:03:13 <kk4ewt> and guys do not erase events on the event page until a year later please
02:03:23 <jflory7> Thanks for chairing tonight, award3535!
02:03:26 <jflory7> award3535++
02:03:28 <ParadoxGuitarist> nite everyone!
02:03:38 <jflory7> Night, all
02:03:47 <award3535> see everyone next week.....
02:03:49 <award3535> #endmeeting