01:00:07 <award3535> #startmeeting FAmNA 01:00:07 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Apr 1 01:00:07 2016 UTC. The chair is award3535. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:07 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:07 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:00:12 <award3535> #meetingname FAmNA 01:00:12 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 01:00:16 <cydrobolt> hello 01:00:24 <award3535> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 01:00:26 <jflory7> .hello jflory7 01:00:27 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <me@justinwflory.com> 01:00:39 * kk4ewt here but not here 01:00:39 <award3535> #chair cydrobolt jflory7 01:00:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt jflory7 01:01:15 <award3535> #chair kk4ewt 01:01:16 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt jflory7 kk4ewt 01:01:23 <cydrobolt> hello all 01:01:39 <award3535> evening everyone 01:02:19 <jflory7> Evening all! 01:02:28 <award3535> #topic === Announcements === 01:02:45 <juggler> o/ 01:02:55 <award3535> jflory7 i saw ticket you entered a few minutes ago 01:03:04 <award3535> #chair juggler 01:03:04 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt jflory7 juggler kk4ewt 01:03:10 <jflory7> award3535: Yep, just entered that in from decause's email. 01:03:15 <jflory7> I do have a few other announcements too. 01:03:26 <award3535> I have some concerns when we get there 01:03:30 * jflory7 nods 01:04:16 <award3535> go ahead jflory7 with what you have 01:04:22 <jflory7> #info === "Announcing Fedora’s Diversity Adviser" === 01:04:27 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/announcing-fedoras-diversity-adviser/ 01:04:33 <jflory7> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/announce@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/MD4ZRYN4IQSW5AFOZR57CLDZOH3LE5V3/ 01:04:39 <jflory7> #info The Diversity Adviser position is officially filled by long-time contributor María "tatica" Leandro. Learn more about the position, what work is going on, and a little bit more about tatica in the Community Blog. 01:04:46 <jflory7> #info === "“I contributed!” 2015 Gource Video Series (3/3)" === 01:04:51 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/i-contributed-2015-gource-video/ 01:04:57 <jflory7> #info Contributor Bee Padalkar (bee2502) wrote a report on the Community Blog analyzing all contributions in Fedora via a visualization with Gource. This is a cool way to put contributions to an easily digestible video! 01:05:02 <jflory7> #info === "FOSSASIA 2016: Singapore" === 01:05:07 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fossasia-2016-singapore/ 01:05:11 <jflory7> #info Fedora attended the FOSSASIA conference this year in Singapore. Ambassador Woo Huiren (GIANT_CRAB) wrote a brief report on the Community Blog about the experience. 01:05:16 <jflory7> #info === "Fedora was at PyCon SK 2016" === 01:05:21 <jflory7> #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-was-at-pycon-sk-2016/ 01:05:25 <jflory7> #info Fedora recently attended a Python event in Slovakia! PyCon SK 2016 recently finished up and Miro Hrončok (churchyard) wrote a brief report on the Community Blog. 01:05:38 <jflory7> There was also the mailing list thread that posted earlier, but it's probably best to save that for the ticket. 01:05:42 <jflory7> This is all I have. 01:06:02 <juggler> thank you jf 01:06:08 <jsandys> Still driving 01:06:21 <jflory7> #chair jsandys 01:06:21 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt jflory7 jsandys juggler kk4ewt 01:06:26 <award3535> I looked at most of it earlier great job 01:06:43 <award3535> #topic === Tickets === 01:06:54 <award3535> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 01:07:39 <award3535> .famnaticket 139 01:07:40 <zodbot> award3535: #139 (Bitcamp 2016 Spring Sponsorship Funds) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/139 01:07:42 <kk4ewt> ??? 01:07:58 <jflory7> This is coming up right around the corner! 01:08:09 <award3535> I will go backwards tonight 01:08:24 <jflory7> Sounds good, last one will probably take the longest 01:08:25 <award3535> I think that everything is good on this one right now 01:08:38 <jflory7> I see no current blockers. There are two details of note that I have, that are new 01:08:40 * jflory7 digs for links 01:09:30 <award3535> jflory7 I think your fuel costs will be less than the bus 01:09:43 <jflory7> #info A badge has been proposed to have at our table for Bitcamp. If a Design team member is unable to get it time, jflory7 intends to help create this badge. 01:09:44 <jflory7> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/444 01:09:49 <jflory7> award3535: Yep, that was the other thing 01:09:55 <jflory7> I have a car again versus having to take the bus 01:10:44 <jflory7> My trip is approximately 365 miles 01:10:45 <award3535> jlfory7 I can drive to OLF and back on about 120 from SE Georgia 01:11:10 <jflory7> My original proposed amount was $120 for the bus ticket, but I moved it back down to $50... I think that will be plenty, and any unused amount can go back to the budget. 01:11:34 <award3535> just note in the ticket as you did that the amount may change for the better, so lets leave it where it is 01:11:40 <jflory7> 365 miles one way, of course 01:11:41 * jflory7 nods 01:12:05 <award3535> .famnaticket 119 01:12:06 <zodbot> award3535: #119 (OSCON 2016 booth) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/119 01:12:09 <kk4ewt> why are we sending jflory7 when we have to closer ambassadors 01:12:11 <jflory7> #info jflory7 is traveling by car instead of bus now and has moved his requested amount down from $120 to $50 for transportation 01:12:28 <jflory7> kk4ewt: As far as I know, there were no other volunteers when the call was put out to the mailing list 01:12:38 <kk4ewt> ok 01:12:51 <kk4ewt> who is the owner of the event 01:13:20 <jflory7> kk4ewt: That would be cydrobolt 01:13:24 <award3535> kk4ewt cydrobolt 01:13:39 <kk4ewt> i am fine as long as the owner requests 01:13:50 <cydrobolt> hi 01:14:19 <cydrobolt> kk4ewt, I feel like jflory7 would be a great asset for us at Bitcamp 01:14:27 <award3535> cydrobolt did you see kk4ewt post 01:14:27 <kk4ewt> cydrobolt, thats all i need 01:14:48 <award3535> ok, lets go to ticket 119 01:14:52 <cydrobolt> we're both students, so I think it would be a great opportunity for us to connect with the crowd there 01:14:58 <jflory7> Any new news on OSCON? 01:15:14 <juggler> cydrobolt agreed on the Bitcamp comment 01:15:28 <award3535> nothing new in developments, but the cost of the event is much lower than expected 01:15:45 <jflory7> Thanks to sharing with Red Hat. Glad that it worked out for this year. 01:16:05 <kk4ewt> need shipping info if they want the banners for oscon 01:16:06 <jflory7> I might actually be at OSCON, but probably not as an Ambassador (may be attending in part with my university). 01:16:41 <award3535> kk4ewt i will get ahold of masta and ask 01:17:15 <kk4ewt> i need asap because event box and banners are being shipped tomorrow for BitCamp 01:17:49 <award3535> got it kk4ewt I usually talk to him during the day 01:17:52 <kk4ewt> the plan is to drop ship the banners to OSCon from Bitcamp 01:19:17 <masta> kk4ewt, I'll get you a ticket asap 01:19:22 <kk4ewt> why is OScon not on the event page ? 01:20:00 <masta> probably I haven't set that up yet 01:20:10 <kk4ewt> ops sorry its the event page in the wrong place 01:20:25 <kk4ewt> so OScon isnt till may correct? 01:20:37 <masta> correct kk4ewt 01:20:39 <jflory7> Correct. 01:20:48 <award3535> yes that is correct, needs to be located in proper Quarter 01:20:51 <jflory7> Near May 16th this year, I believe 01:20:59 <award3535> #chair masta 01:20:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt jflory7 jsandys juggler kk4ewt masta 01:21:12 <kk4ewt> ok i thought it was the weekend after bitcamp so i have time to send banners to LFNW 01:21:43 <award3535> any thing else on this ticket 01:21:52 <kk4ewt> i am set 01:22:14 <award3535> .famnaticket 143 01:22:15 <zodbot> award3535: #143 (FAmNA Cardholders for 2016) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/143 01:22:26 <award3535> I have heard nothing on this.... 01:22:34 <jsandys_> Do you need shipping info for the banners and event box to LFNW? 01:22:59 <award3535> jsandys_ please create a ticket 01:23:02 <kk4ewt> i need for the banners, there is a west coast event box 01:23:15 <kk4ewt> which i think brian has 01:23:22 * masta steps away momentarily - brb 01:23:34 <jflory7> We should probably bring this up with decause. I'll drop him a message about this ticket now, he probably has missed the response. 01:23:41 <jflory7> #nick decause 01:23:53 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Follow up with decause about Ticket #142 (FAmNA cardholders) 01:24:25 <award3535> #action jflory7 Follow up with decause about Ticket #143 (FAmNA cardholders) 01:25:16 <kk4ewt> jsandys_, so yes to both 01:26:23 <award3535> .famnaticket 144 01:26:25 <zodbot> award3535: #144 (Create a budget report and proposed budget) – FAmNA Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/144 01:27:21 <award3535> Ok, I have some issues with this ticket, one I do not have any numbers for the previous year, I only got half the information from events and individuals 01:28:06 <award3535> also we identified the budget kk4ewt sent it to the comops folks several months ago 01:28:12 <jflory7> Is there a way for us to get this information? Or get a ballpark based on credit card transactions? 01:28:29 <jflory7> Okay, cool, if that's somewhere, we can just pass it along and get it in the ticket 01:28:38 <award3535> that is the problem I have been battling for the past year 01:28:38 <kk4ewt> jflory7, another reason we need award3535 to be card holder 01:28:46 <jflory7> Ahhh, I see now 01:29:31 * mikedep333 just joined 01:29:50 <award3535> we had events that cardholders paid for things, reports never got generated, so we have no final costs 01:30:02 <award3535> #chair mikedep333 01:30:02 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt jflory7 jsandys juggler kk4ewt masta mikedep333 01:30:14 <kk4ewt> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yiAgz1-9MRk3LboDWpB6RCrCshBDqHPgIiYAaT5WqlQ 01:30:32 <award3535> so, putting that burden back on me to get rough numbers is a little unfair 01:30:51 <award3535> kk4ewt thank you 01:31:18 <kk4ewt> i try to be sure that everything i do award3535 has the info 01:31:42 <lord_drachenblut> Evening 01:31:52 <award3535> now if this was that important to get a webpage up, where are the numbers, where are the delegates listed, etc.... we are currently under FY17 budget now 01:32:06 <award3535> #chiar lord_drachenblut 01:32:14 <jflory7> kk4ewt: That's excellent – you should reply back to decause's email with the link to that spreadsheet for our proposed budget. 01:32:16 <jflory7> kk4ewt++ 01:32:17 <award3535> #chair lord_drachenblut 01:32:17 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt jflory7 jsandys juggler kk4ewt lord_drachenblut masta mikedep333 01:32:24 <kk4ewt> award3535, do you have the info from lord_drachenblut going to SCALE 01:32:29 <juggler> evening drach! 01:32:38 <jflory7> Welcome lord_drachenblut! 01:33:06 <award3535> kk4ewt no, that is exactly what the problem has been, although his was prepaid I do not have any final numbers 01:33:14 <lord_drachenblut> Sorry I haven't been around lately.... Treatment and personal issues have gotten the better of me 01:33:36 <lord_drachenblut> Kk4ewt what info do you need? 01:33:39 <award3535> no worries lord_drachenblut 01:34:05 <kk4ewt> lord_drachenblut, if you know the cost of your plane ticket and room cost that would help 01:34:06 <award3535> I will need the total amount that was spent on your travel and room 01:34:38 <award3535> please email me the information or receipts if you have them 01:35:33 <lord_drachenblut> Let me see if I can find the plane ticket info. The hotel I don't have. That ended to going in brian Proffitt red had card 01:36:33 <award3535> jflory7 this is where I have the issues, Red hat paid and I have no information.... several events were that way so I threw my hands up and said I give up 01:36:48 <lord_drachenblut> 316.20 which Ruth paid 01:37:02 <jflory7> award3535: I see now. 01:37:08 <award3535> was that the flight 01:37:31 <award3535> lord_drachenblut email me what you have please 01:37:45 <lord_drachenblut> This was done because of my financial situation I was unable to pay upfront 01:37:54 <lord_drachenblut> Yes that was the plane 01:38:38 <award3535> lord_drachenblut you did nothing wrong, I have been trying to get the card holders to cough up information for about a year 01:38:39 <lord_drachenblut> The hotel room costs got cut down because Alexandro ended yo staying in my room 01:39:12 <lord_drachenblut> Send me an email and I'll see if I can get the info from Brian 01:39:34 <lord_drachenblut> He's a fellow Hoosier and friend 01:39:40 <award3535> there are some disconnects that we are trying to clear up within the ranks, and the new way of doing business should clear up most of it 01:40:40 <award3535> but I am still concerned about numbers, we are already using FY 17 and I dont have the approved numbers, we are heading right back down the same path 01:41:40 <kk4ewt> i guess you have to use the budget we approved https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCaLE_14X_Event 01:42:09 <award3535> I will put together what I can and email it to decause 01:43:12 <lord_drachenblut> Kk4ewt we can remove about half of the hotel cost from that since Alexandro stayed in mine 01:43:41 <award3535> lord_drachenblut, was alexandro RH or Fedora? 01:44:34 <lord_drachenblut> fedora 01:44:56 <kk4ewt> then it equals the same 01:44:57 <award3535> then the room cost still remains the same amount 01:45:34 <award3535> kk4ewt has seen my frustration with this, and now I hope everyone else does as well 01:46:33 <lord_drachenblut> Sorry for being a part in adding to that 01:46:35 <juggler> it does sound complicated :\ 01:47:40 <jflory7> So it seems like for the future Ticket #143 is a high priority for future planning. For the immediate sense of this past year... I'm not too sure. award3535, you should probably reach out to decause about this and get his thoughts and advice on the situation. 01:47:43 <award3535> lord_drachenblut, your fine, this is just a paperwork nightmare that everyone points fingers on who is responsible for tracking but they made it almost impossible 01:48:07 <lord_drachenblut> I'm still waiting to see of rh will reimburse some of my out of pocket expenses.... Would be nice to put that towards a new mixer 01:49:21 <award3535> lord_drachenblut did you create a ticket for the reimbursements, remember it must accompany a report, blog, etc.... 01:49:57 <lord_drachenblut> I had done the ticket hadn't heard more since 01:50:46 <award3535> lord_drachenblut, I will look and see what I can do 01:51:19 <lord_drachenblut> Thanks man 01:51:37 <juggler> good seeing everyone. departing for my next meeting. take care all! 01:51:46 <jflory7> juggler: See ya! Thanks for coming out. 01:51:49 <award3535> Ok I think I have beat this one enough 01:51:51 <lord_drachenblut> Later juggler 01:51:56 <jsandys_> Re: banners, event box and swag for LFNW: create a ticket in famnarequests or famna or add to https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/118 ? 01:52:23 <juggler> thx all 01:52:30 <jflory7> award3535: I see the best plans from this is kk4ewt emailing the list with the link to our proposed budget, and then working out the details with decause on #143 and what to do with past transactions 01:52:31 <kk4ewt> famnarequest and note in the other 01:52:42 <jsandys_> Thanks 01:53:15 <award3535> #topic == Open Floor === 01:53:35 <kk4ewt> award3535, are you or am I taking the lead for SELF 01:54:00 <jflory7> I have nothing else for tonight. 01:54:13 <jflory7> Excited for Bitcamp and seeing cydrobolt, mikedep333, and linuxmodder! 01:54:14 <award3535> kk4ewt its up to you, if you take Self I will do OLF 01:54:19 <mikedep333> jflory7, ditto 01:54:27 <cydrobolt> will see y'all soon 01:54:46 <lord_drachenblut> Where does Penguicon stand? 01:54:54 <award3535> kk4ewt or vice versa 01:55:01 <kk4ewt> ok i will work up a wiki page this week, i have proposed a ham radio talk and the battleaxe is co running the knitting track 01:55:03 <jsandys_> Last week someone mentioned getting a donation for an event. How does that work? Fedora is not a 501 type org and most doners will want some credit. 01:55:24 <award3535> kk4ewt ok, then I will take the lead on OLF 01:55:47 <kk4ewt> jsandys_, explain what you mean 01:56:11 <kk4ewt> wasnt here last week and dont remember it in the minutes 01:56:37 <jsandys_> Last year I would have gone to Guitar Center for some equipment to use and some prizes. 01:57:17 <jsandys_> But they would want an advert, "x dontanted by GC" 01:57:17 <jflory7> There seems to be this page but it's pretty sparse. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Donations 01:57:46 <jflory7> jsandys_: Is this for an event or for the entire Fedora Project? 01:57:48 <kk4ewt> well maybe the event itself can ask for the donation if they are 501 01:57:53 <jsandys_> And they would wand an organization name so they can get the writeoff 01:58:20 <kk4ewt> jflory7, we really can ask for donations 01:58:24 <kk4ewt> cant 01:58:30 <jflory7> Yeah, understandably 01:58:38 <award3535> got to be careful with that, legal stuff can get us in to some deep trouble 01:59:25 <kk4ewt> in this case guitar center and the event need to talk 01:59:45 <lord_drachenblut> Were they asking for a donaion from Fedora to help run there event? 01:59:57 <jsandys_> Agreed, that is why I used my own equipment (bought at Guitar Center) and didn't have prizes 02:01:28 <kk4ewt> lord_drachenblut, i am sure fedora helped sponsored the event 02:01:51 <award3535> ok folks we are out of time 02:01:57 <kk4ewt> ok time to run 02:02:01 <award3535> any other quick things 02:02:06 <jflory7> I'm all good. 02:02:10 <jflory7> Thanks for chairing, award3535! 02:02:12 <jflory7> award3535++ 02:02:22 <jsandys_> Yes, fedora sponsored the LFNW booth. Brian and I provided our stuff 02:02:26 <kk4ewt> award3535, i will send you a email with shipping to bitcamp tomorrow 02:02:37 <award3535> kk4ewt roger... 02:02:55 <award3535> everyone have a great rest of your evening.... 02:02:57 <award3535> #endmeeting