21:06:12 <jflory7> #startmeeting Fedora Magazine editorial board meeting (2016-03-31)
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21:06:18 <jflory7> #meetingname magazine
21:06:18 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine'
21:06:21 <jflory7> #topic Roll Call
21:06:24 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
21:06:25 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <me@justinwflory.com>
21:06:27 <jflory7> #chair ryanlerch stickster
21:06:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: jflory7 ryanlerch stickster
21:09:17 <ryanlerch> .hello ryanlerch
21:09:18 <zodbot> ryanlerch: ryanlerch 'ryan lerch' <rlerch@redhat.com>
21:09:42 <ryanlerch> morning jflory7!
21:09:52 <jflory7> Hiya ryanlerch! How's your day going so far?
21:10:14 <ryanlerch> jflory7: just getting started! i have coffee now, so all is good :)
21:10:26 <jflory7> Sounds like you're all set :)
21:10:35 <jflory7> Shall we get going? Seems like it might just be me and you today.
21:10:47 <ryanlerch> awesome! :)
21:11:15 <ryanlerch> first up is stats and wrapup of the last week, right?
21:11:19 <jflory7> Yep!
21:11:24 <jflory7> #topic Last week review
21:11:56 <jflory7> Black Box was on Monday.
21:12:02 * jflory7 is pulling up the page
21:12:08 * ryanlerch too :)
21:12:30 <jflory7> Might as well touch on the F24 alpha announcment too.
21:12:39 <jflory7> #info === Fedora 24 Alpha released! ===
21:12:42 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&view=post&post=12400
21:12:52 <jflory7> #info Total Views: 8,157 (as of now)
21:13:07 <jflory7> #info === Open source, a black box, and radioactivity ===
21:13:09 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&view=post&post=12349
21:13:20 <jflory7> #info Total Views: 3,606 (as of now)
21:13:28 <ryanlerch> yeah, that figure is pretty good for an alpha annoucnement!
21:13:37 <jflory7> #info === Files: Find recent content easily ===
21:13:39 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=stats&view=post&post=12379
21:13:47 <ryanlerch> oh, the blackbox one seemed pretty well recieved too!
21:13:49 <jflory7> #info Total Views: 1,762 (as of now)
21:13:51 <jflory7> Definitely!
21:14:09 <jflory7> This week seems pretty awesome. I think other content is being boosted by incoming traffic for the F24 Alpha announcement too.
21:14:20 <jflory7> Everything seems to go up around release announcements of any kind. :)
21:14:25 <ryanlerch> :)
21:14:33 <ryanlerch> FInal ones are the best :)
21:15:06 <ryanlerch> top work all round!
21:15:16 <ryanlerch> cookies for everyone in the meeting!
21:15:18 <jflory7> #info === Total views this week: 33,230 (last week), 28,149 (this week, so far) ===
21:15:19 <decause> .hello decause
21:15:20 <zodbot> decause: decause 'Remy DeCausemaker' <decause@redhat.com>
21:15:20 <ryanlerch> jflory7++
21:15:22 <jflory7> #chair decause
21:15:22 <zodbot> Current chairs: decause jflory7 ryanlerch stickster
21:15:26 <ryanlerch> decause++
21:15:28 <jflory7> ryanlerch++
21:15:35 <jflory7> Alright! To pending review!
21:15:38 <jflory7> #topic Pending review
21:15:39 <ryanlerch> morning decause!
21:15:51 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending&post_type=post
21:16:03 <jflory7> #info === Rebase-helper tool for rebases and for upstream monitoring services ===
21:16:12 <ryanlerch> decause: we have just done the weekly wrapup, now onto pending!
21:16:22 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12367&preview=1&_ppp=42481a4911
21:16:37 <decause> nod nod, I was lurking here luckily so I could grab the backlog easy
21:16:45 <jflory7> Is this one actually already ready?
21:16:57 <jflory7> At a glance, looks edited + has a featured image!
21:17:13 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Think we could put this one out for tomorrow?
21:17:22 <ryanlerch> the original author seemed happy with my changes, not sure if they responded to my response about removing some of the deeper dive stuff
21:17:39 <jflory7> Originally, we were going to do my interview with jdieter about open source schools tomorrow, but I'm going to need more time to work with him on the interview too (I also still have a lot to write)
21:18:08 <jflory7> Hmmm... think it's good to ship, then?
21:18:09 <ryanlerch> jflory7: yeah i think that is good!
21:18:13 <jflory7> Cool, okay.
21:18:16 * jflory7 goes to schedule
21:18:27 <jflory7> #agreed This article will be scheduled for tomorrow morning at 8:00 UTC!
21:18:42 <jflory7> #info === Files: Connect to a server with SSH ===
21:18:42 <ryanlerch> i'll update the email thread for this one
21:18:47 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12442&preview=1&_ppp=1fcf1003be
21:18:51 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Awesome, thanks!
21:18:59 * jflory7 goes to schedule the last article before jumping into this one.
21:20:29 <jflory7> Okay, scheduled!
21:20:37 <ryanlerch> email sent!
21:21:02 <jflory7> ryanlerch++
21:21:06 <jflory7> So this was stickster's article.
21:21:09 <jflory7> It looks done to me.
21:21:10 * decause highfives ryanlerch and jflory7
21:21:16 * jflory7 highfives back
21:21:39 * ryanlerch fistbumps back
21:21:54 <jflory7> I say we schedule this for next Wednesday, to keep the schedule of a new article in the series each Wednesday.
21:22:05 <jflory7> Quick vote for scheduling for next Wednesday?
21:22:06 <jflory7> +1
21:22:10 <ryanlerch> +1 for me
21:22:28 <ryanlerch> stickster can nix this though if he isnt ready :)
21:22:44 <decause> +1
21:22:48 <decause> in case you needed it
21:22:52 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Agreed.
21:23:01 <jflory7> So there will be a good time buffer too if he did have anything else to add
21:23:17 <jflory7> #agreed Article looks ready to ship! Scheduled for 2016-04-06 at 8:00 UTC
21:23:20 * jflory7 goes to schedule
21:23:23 <jflory7> #topic Drafts
21:23:36 <stickster> guys, sorry I'm only about 10% here... I'm in the ER with my daughter (just a sprained or fractured foot, nothing horrible)
21:24:38 <jflory7> stickster: Ouch, sounds like you've had a hell of a day. :( Hope all is well with the daughter! Don't worry about checking in here – we have you covered tonight!
21:24:41 <ryanlerch> eep! :(
21:24:49 <stickster> jflory7: it's really been one, yeah
21:25:12 <stickster> jflory7: ryanlerch: I got that article done earlier today in hopes it could help beef up next week's schedule -- it's ready to go whenever you guys want it
21:25:19 <stickster> sorry for interrupting the flow here
21:25:33 * nirik has an item for open floor when/if you get to it.
21:25:42 <jflory7> stickster: Nope, not a problem. Seems like we'll have it ready to go for next Wednesday. Thanks for popping in!
21:26:04 <jflory7> nirik: Acknowledged, sounds good!
21:26:07 <jflory7> #info === Gimp – A fast overview ===
21:26:28 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=11874&preview=1&_ppp=ba252c6dea
21:26:47 <decause> nirik++
21:27:01 <decause> good to see you here in magazine-land :)
21:27:25 <jflory7> If I recall, Sylvia said on the list this would be ready by Tuesday, next week
21:27:37 <jflory7> So since Wednesday is covered, I say we defer this to Friday publication?
21:27:54 <ryanlerch> okies, i think this one is almost ready, as long as sylivia has seen the changes i last did
21:28:01 <jflory7> Okay, awesome.
21:28:09 <jflory7> It's looking like it's almost there.
21:28:21 <jflory7> ryanlerch++ Thanks for helping edit here. lailah++ for the article!
21:28:31 <jflory7> +1 for shipping this next Friday.
21:28:42 <jflory7> I think it's close enough where we can count on it.
21:28:48 <ryanlerch> lets tentative schedule it for Friday. if not, i have a pitch that is almost complete that can fill the gap
21:28:53 * jflory7 nods
21:29:26 <jflory7> #agreed Article is almost complete, designated to be finished Monday / Tuesday next week. Publication date of 2016-04-08.
21:29:37 <jflory7> #info === Protect your privacy with OpenVPN ===
21:29:44 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10253&preview=1&_ppp=8a4d5171f8
21:29:49 <ryanlerch> this is puiterwijk 's one right?
21:30:00 <jflory7> ryanlerch: It was, but he had to pass it on due to time constraints.
21:30:12 <jflory7> It needs an author for the technical server + client setup and configuration.
21:30:27 <jflory7> I wrote the intro material / background back in October but didn't have the chomps to finish it.
21:30:31 <jflory7> * chops
21:30:58 <jflory7> fale expressed interest in helping write this.
21:31:06 <jflory7> I've been meaning to reach out to him for a while about that...
21:31:12 <jflory7> To see if he was still interested.
21:31:24 <jflory7> However, if someone here was wanting to take it on, it certainly wouldn't be a problem.
21:32:12 <ryanlerch> hmmm, this is a bit out of my expertise
21:32:30 <ryanlerch> decause: nirik know anythiing about setting up an OPenVPN server?
21:32:41 <nirik> sure.
21:32:42 * decause lolz
21:33:03 <decause> SSH Tunnels for me, only used OpenVPN a lil bit, and it was via NetworkManager
21:33:14 <nirik> whats the pitch? all openvpn? or just the server setup or?
21:33:35 <jflory7> nirik: Basic OpenVPN server + client configuration.
21:33:43 <jflory7> The current draft link it just above, a little bit!
21:35:09 <nirik> I could try it, but not sure I have time to devote to it, so it might be a while before I have anything
21:36:03 <jflory7> nirik: Okay – this one is actually already a pretty old one (dating to OCtober), so I don't think there's a hard deadline for this. Does late April sound reasonable? Maybe for a publication date of 2016-04-22?
21:36:29 <nirik> I can try, but like I said I have a ton of things, so if I can't get it by then will have to hand it back
21:36:41 <ryanlerch> nirik: i can work with you on this if you want to provide the techincal info (maybe in dot points), i can write it up
21:36:53 <jflory7> You two want to tag team it then?
21:37:05 <ryanlerch> but not rush on this one though
21:37:09 <ryanlerch> *no
21:37:14 * jflory7 nods
21:37:22 <nirik> sure, let me draft something and you can prettyfy it up. :)
21:37:56 * nirik runs 'task add "openvpn article for Fedora magazine" project:fedora due:2016-04-22'
21:38:34 <jflory7> #agreed nirik and ryanlerch to work on this one together; tentative deadline for a publication on 2016-04-22 or 2016-04-25
21:38:55 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Change article ownership to nirik, set deadline in Magazine for first draft
21:39:52 <jflory7> #info === COPR: the road ahead ===
21:39:59 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12293&preview=1&_ppp=a5343cdfc9
21:40:10 <jflory7> This one is looking like it is still a WIP.
21:40:22 <jflory7> I say we just check back in on this one next week.
21:40:53 <ryanlerch> +1
21:42:03 <jflory7> #agreed Article is still in progress; will check in with stickster next week to check in on progress and see if we can schedule it for that following week
21:42:11 <jflory7> That's all the drafts!
21:42:18 <jflory7> #topic Pitches
21:42:47 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pitch&post_type=post
21:42:57 <jflory7> Ooh, lots of new pitches here, ryanlerch :)
21:43:04 <jflory7> #info === How to take screenshots on Fedora Workstation ===
21:43:08 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12434&preview=true
21:43:12 <ryanlerch> jflory7: 2 new related ones :)
21:43:44 <jflory7> ryanlerch: Heh, this first one isn't a pitch! I think this one is already pending review. :) Seems pretty complete to me!
21:43:51 <jflory7> Did you have anything you wanted to add to it?
21:44:02 <ryanlerch> jflory7: yeah one more section to go
21:44:22 <jflory7> Okay, cool – and were you going to do another pass to go back and add hyperlinks?
21:44:28 <ryanlerch> i started writing the shutter one, then realised a quick post on using the default tool first would be good
21:44:47 <ryanlerch> jflory7: yeah, this was pretty much just a braindump
21:44:50 <jflory7> Hmm, although I guess it only really needs one from what I see
21:44:56 <jflory7> ryanlerch: I think this is looking really solid.
21:45:00 <jflory7> Want to ship this Monday?
21:45:02 <ryanlerch> jflory7: thanks!
21:45:21 <jflory7> Or 2016-04-04.
21:45:32 <ryanlerch> yeah lets do it! do you wnat to do an editorial pass over it for me?
21:45:40 <ryanlerch> i will be able to finish it up today
21:46:12 * decause is curious to hear nirik's items for open floor
21:46:45 <ryanlerch> jflory7: the next pitch from me is about shutter -- a more advanced screenshot tool
21:48:19 <ryanlerch> decause: me too!
21:48:41 <jflory7> ryanlerch: I think it's in a state where it should be all set and ready for publication on Monday. If it that sounds good to you, let's commit and aim to ship it then.
21:48:53 <ryanlerch> jflory7: +1
21:49:50 <jflory7> Oh, whoops, looks like I just got a flood of notifications.
21:50:13 <jflory7> #agreed ryanlerch will finish this article up and aim for a publication on Monday, 2016-04-04
21:50:24 <jflory7> #info === Screenshot everything with Shutter on Fedora ===
21:50:30 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12432&preview=true
21:50:42 <jflory7> ryanlerch: I'm +1 to this pitch!
21:50:47 <jflory7> Short, sweet, and to the point.
21:50:53 <ryanlerch> +1 from me too :)
21:51:09 <jflory7> #agreed Awesome idea! ryanlerch has the greenlight to go for it!
21:51:18 <jflory7> #topic Final publishing schedule
21:53:27 <jflory7> #agreed FINAL PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: 2016-04-01, "Rebase-helper tool for rebases and for upstream monitoring services"; 2016-04-04, "How to take screenshots on Fedora Workstation", ryanlerch; 2016-04-06, "Files: Connect to a server with SSH", stickster; 2016-04-08, "Gimp – A fast overview", lailah
21:53:33 <jflory7> #topic Open Floor
21:53:35 <ryanlerch> done!
21:53:39 <ryanlerch> nirik ^
21:53:42 <jflory7> Okay, nirik! You have the floor. :)
21:53:47 <nirik> oh right.
21:54:02 <nirik> so, we have been approached by a CDN that wants to sponsor us with their services. :)
21:54:10 <jflory7> Ooh
21:54:11 <decause> orly
21:54:16 <nirik> we are thinking about how best to do that, but one idea
21:54:20 <ryanlerch> specifically for the magazine?
21:54:23 <nirik> was to try it out on the magazine.
21:54:29 <nirik> they have a wordpress plugin
21:54:43 * jflory7 has a guess for what the CDN is
21:54:52 <nirik> so, if you all are ok with it, and we get it setup, any objections to giving it a try?
21:54:58 <nirik> Content Delivery Network
21:55:03 <ryanlerch> +1 from me
21:55:07 * decause is +1
21:55:07 <nirik> basically they have caching machines in lots of places...
21:55:16 <ryanlerch> nirik: i assume puiterwijk is aware of this?
21:55:18 <jflory7> Something CloudFlare-esque?
21:55:19 <nirik> so they pull from us, and serve to users from those places (closer to them)
21:55:23 <decause> mostly because it has the blessing of Fedora-infra
21:55:26 <jflory7> I'm certainly +1 to this as well.
21:55:28 <nirik> jflory7: yep. excactly.
21:55:29 <jflory7> CDN++
21:55:37 <jflory7> nirik: Nice!
21:55:44 <decause> nirik: can they do non-wordpress plugin CDN'ing?
21:55:46 <nirik> but we need to sort out all the issues first, just wanted to bring it up
21:55:55 <jflory7> decause: They can, but it works better with WP with the plugin
21:56:00 <nirik> decause: yep.
21:56:07 <decause> nirik: I mean, for non-magazine releated infra
21:56:10 <decause> jflory7: ^
21:56:14 <jflory7> Ahhh, gotcha.
21:56:24 <puiterwijk> jflory7, ryanlerch: I was the one that said I'd do magazine for this
21:56:25 <nirik> decause: yes, we are pondering on what makes sense to try and use it for too...
21:56:29 <puiterwijk> So yes, I'm aware
21:56:31 <nirik> so thoughts on that welcome as well.
21:56:42 <nirik> puiterwijk: just wanted to give them a heads up. :)
21:56:44 <ryanlerch> puiterwijk: awesome! thanks
21:56:47 <decause> nirik: I'd love to hear more about how the CDN found us and decided they wanted to sponsor
21:56:50 <jflory7> nirik: Couldn't hurt for the CommBlog too!
21:57:05 <jflory7> puiterwijk++
21:57:12 <ryanlerch> just making sure since puiterwijk is our go-to for magazine admin :)
21:57:21 <nirik> decause: not sure, I can ask them...
21:57:30 <nirik> Centos folks are also using them already.
21:57:32 <puiterwijk> jflory7: I might do commblog later, but I want to start with one
21:57:51 <jflory7> puiterwijk: Sure, sure. Sounds fine to me!
21:57:54 <decause> nirik: I think that when we make a new partner like this, it is good to find out how/why, so we can do things like tell the story, at least to the community
21:58:03 <jflory7> Magazine is probably at a larger scale too where this would have a noticeable impact
21:58:07 <nirik> decause++ definitely.
21:58:07 <zodbot> nirik: Karma for decause changed to 35 (for the f23 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
21:58:12 <ryanlerch> puiterwijk: would you forsee any need to change / optimise the theme to get this done?
21:58:20 <decause> and then maybe other folks who are like "oh, we can do that too!" can see how to support Fedora in new and interesting ways
21:58:33 <nirik> it uses the w3-total-cache plugin
21:58:37 <puiterwijk> ryanlerch: no. Although I might submit some patches to you to improve parts
21:58:38 <decause> nirik: this is great news, really awesome
21:58:43 <puiterwijk> nirik: no.... you're kidding right?
21:58:53 * puiterwijk runs away screaming
21:59:02 <nirik> puiterwijk: thats what they suggest it seems. just looking now at it. ;)
21:59:09 <decause> nirik: we def don't want you to have to do all the heavy lifting on the storytelling part. If you wanna just open a loop with the sponsor and commops, we can take it from there
21:59:11 <nirik> but we could do something else, thats just their suggestion
21:59:16 <puiterwijk> nope, nope, nope. We are NOT going back to w3-total-cache
21:59:44 <ryanlerch> puiterwijk++
21:59:46 <decause> lol
21:59:48 <puiterwijk> Even if I have to write code to support it myself, that's better than w3-total-cache
22:00:00 <nirik> fair enough.
22:00:05 <nirik> anyhow, thats it. ;)
22:00:12 * decause waves to his old friend nolski
22:00:15 <decause> nolski++
22:00:16 <zodbot> decause: Karma for nolski changed to 1 (for the f23 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
22:00:22 * nolski waves at decause
22:01:10 <decause> can I give you an action to open a loop and forward us the details on the CDN nirik?
22:01:36 <nirik> sure.
22:01:45 <nirik> you just want me to ask them and cc you? or ?
22:01:48 <ryanlerch> i think most of us trust infra to make the right call on this, right?
22:01:55 * decause def does
22:02:03 <jflory7> nirik++
22:02:04 <decause> if nirik and puiterwijk are in, I feel very good about this
22:02:04 <ryanlerch> me too! :)
22:02:05 <nirik> we also may want to wait until we are actually using it to do anything
22:02:09 <jflory7> ryanlerch: I certainly do
22:02:25 <jflory7> I will defer the technical wisdom about this to the Infra team for sure.
22:02:25 <nirik> might not work out or whatever... (but I hope it does)
22:02:26 <ryanlerch> nirik: thanks for mentioning it! :)
22:02:31 <jflory7> Awesome to hear about the sponsorship!
22:02:37 <ryanlerch> puiterwijk: too!
22:02:37 <jflory7> Yeah, thanks for bringing this up, nirik!
22:02:45 <decause> #action nirik open a loop with decause with the details on our prospective CDN sponsor for blogs, and maybe other parts of Fedora too!
22:03:12 <decause> thanks nirik and puiterwijk
22:03:18 <jflory7> Alright, awesome! Anything else for open floor?
22:03:31 * decause doesn't have anything
22:03:38 <jflory7> Going once...
22:03:45 <jflory7> Going twice...
22:03:52 <ryanlerch> oh
22:03:56 <decause> oh
22:03:57 * jflory7 holds
22:03:57 <decause> :P
22:04:20 <ryanlerch> just mention i fixed 2 bugs in the theme -- see the magazine theme on pagure for details!
22:04:26 <jflory7> ryanlerch++
22:04:28 <decause> #info Opensource.com hit over 1M monthly page views this month!
22:04:30 <jflory7> Woohoo!
22:04:31 <ryanlerch> havent spun up a new release for it yet
22:04:40 <jflory7> Sounds awesome.
22:04:46 * ryanlerch is done
22:04:49 <decause> that's not magazine, but still exciting for our peers over there
22:04:58 <jflory7> #link https://pagure.io/fedoramagazine-theme
22:05:28 <jflory7> decause: That's awesome news too. 1M is a big milestone!!
22:05:40 <ryanlerch> ours was 184K
22:05:57 <ryanlerch> 3rd highest on record
22:06:05 <ryanlerch> and not a main release month either
22:06:30 * jflory7 tried to get the links to the specific issues, but Pagure just gave him an internal server error
22:06:32 <decause> wow!
22:06:45 <jflory7> ryanlerch: This was fairly recently too, right?
22:07:01 <decause> that is some serious traffic too though
22:07:08 <decause> fedoramagazine++
22:07:19 * ryanlerch steals the magazine's cookie
22:07:22 <jflory7> fedoramagazine++
22:07:23 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for fedoramagazine changed to 2 (for the f23 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
22:07:28 <jflory7> :P
22:07:41 <jflory7> Okay, anything else for tonight?
22:08:07 <ryanlerch> hmmm, yeah pagure is giving me a Internal Server error for the main page now too
22:08:17 <jflory7> #info ryanlerch fixed two issues in the Magazine theme recently, one for boilerplate text below 5tftw posts as well as text above the comment field for anyone commenting on articles
22:08:54 <jflory7> Okay, if nothing else, we will close out here!
22:08:59 <jflory7> Going once...
22:09:00 * decause is good with closing
22:09:07 <decause> thanks jflory7 for chairing
22:09:08 <jflory7> Going twice...
22:09:12 <jflory7> Gladly :)
22:09:13 <decause> good luck stickster in the ER :/
22:09:38 <jflory7> Get well wishes to his daughter!
22:09:45 <jflory7> Okay, thanks for coming out tonight, everyone!
22:09:48 <jflory7> #endmeeting