22:00:00 <stickster> #startmeeting Magazine editorial board
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22:00:02 <stickster> #meetingname magazine
22:00:02 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'magazine'
22:00:03 <stickster> #topic Roll call
22:00:08 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
22:00:08 <stickster> .hello pfrields
22:00:09 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <me@justinwflory.com>
22:00:12 <zodbot> stickster: pfrields 'Paul W. Frields' <stickster@gmail.com>
22:00:20 <stickster> #chair jflory7
22:00:21 <zodbot> Current chairs: jflory7 stickster
22:00:32 <jflory7> stickster: o/
22:00:39 <jflory7> How's your day going so far?
22:02:00 <stickster> jflory7: pretty rough, to be honest :-D
22:02:12 <stickster> just one o' them days
22:02:20 <jflory7> Sorry to hear that. Hopefully things go better with the gig later tonight then.
22:03:14 <jflory7> We should be able to speed through this meeting tonight, though.
22:03:20 <jflory7> We've got a fairly light queue last I checked.
22:03:53 <robyduck> .hello robyduck
22:03:54 <zodbot> robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' <robyduck@gmail.com>
22:04:18 <stickster> #chair robyduck
22:04:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: jflory7 robyduck stickster
22:04:22 <stickster> Well, let's go for it then
22:04:29 <stickster> #topic Review of last week
22:04:52 <stickster> So we had 4 articles since last meeting
22:05:18 <stickster> The DROWN article seems to have generated quite a lot of traffic!
22:05:26 <jflory7> I can imagine. :)
22:05:33 <jflory7> Definitely a hot topic sort of article
22:05:48 <stickster> The weekly trend is up, which is great
22:06:23 <stickster> As far as month-to-month, February 2016 was down from January. *BUT*... that includes a time when a bunch of content generating people were in Brno, and a shorter month overall
22:06:41 <jflory7> I was kind of anticipating that
22:06:44 * stickster too
22:06:55 <jflory7> I think we can push back up to regular numbers fairly soon, though
22:06:56 <stickster> #info weekly trend up, monthly down
22:06:59 <jflory7> This week was a hot start too.
22:07:04 <stickster> Let's move o
22:07:05 <stickster> on
22:07:10 * jflory7 also notices we're closing to hitting 3M total views... :)
22:07:26 <stickster> Yes indeed -- should happen this month
22:07:32 <jflory7> Magazine++ stickster++
22:07:32 <robyduck> nice
22:07:36 <stickster> #info should hit 3M views this month!
22:07:53 <stickster> jflory7: should we start with things to do for next week?
22:08:47 <jflory7> stickster: Sounds good to me. Pending review?
22:09:06 <stickster> jflory7: Yes. It seems to me croberts article should be in that state
22:09:53 <jflory7> Yeah, actually, it should be
22:09:54 <jflory7> +1
22:10:03 <stickster> #topic Articles to review
22:10:12 * jflory7 is moving
22:10:20 <jflory7> Never mind :D
22:10:22 <stickster> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending&post_type=post
22:10:31 <stickster> :-D
22:10:43 <jflory7> Start with Plasma and work our way down?
22:11:02 <stickster> It looks like Plasma needs some editing on the language side, but it's been set up the way we agreed with lailah
22:11:16 <fale> .hello fale
22:11:17 <zodbot> fale: fale 'Fabio Alessandro Locati' <fabio@locati.cc>
22:11:22 <stickster> o/ fale
22:11:34 * robyduck looks at them too
22:11:37 <jflory7> #chair fale
22:11:37 <zodbot> Current chairs: fale jflory7 robyduck stickster
22:11:43 <jflory7> Hiya fale!
22:11:52 <jflory7> stickster: Yeah, it looked like the length + content seemed solid
22:11:55 <jflory7> Just needs an editing pass
22:12:09 <jflory7> I would take it on tonight but I don't think it will work well for me
22:12:19 <jflory7> I'm pretty much going to be off for the rest of the evening after this meeting
22:12:30 <jflory7> (Assuming this is the one that would go out tomorrow)
22:13:22 <robyduck> jflory7: does plasma have a featured image? Can't see it
22:13:27 <jflory7> robyduck: It doesn;t yet.
22:13:42 <jflory7> #info === "Installing Plasma 5" ===
22:13:45 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12093&preview=true
22:13:54 <stickster> jflory7: I would love to edit it myself but after this meeting I have to quite literally run out the door to a gig, and I won't be back until > 1am
22:14:17 <jflory7> stickster: Understood -- so looks like we're short for featured images even if we had the editing manpower
22:14:19 <stickster> jflory7: We may have to push this back to Monday
22:14:23 <jflory7> Should we just push for Monday?
22:14:23 <stickster> *nod
22:14:23 <jflory7> Yesh
22:14:25 <jflory7> * Yeah
22:14:39 <robyduck> eheh
22:14:46 <stickster> #action stickster make featured image for Plasma article by Sunday
22:14:54 <jflory7> I can take editing over the weekend?
22:15:05 <stickster> #action jflory7 edit article over weekend as well
22:15:08 <jflory7> +1
22:15:12 <robyduck> cool
22:15:14 <stickster> #undo
22:15:14 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by stickster at 22:15:05 : jflory7 edit article over weekend as well
22:15:18 <stickster> #action jflory7 edit Plasma article over weekend as well
22:15:35 <stickster> #agreed publish Plasma article Monday 2016-03-07 @ 8 UTC
22:15:45 <jflory7> Solid.
22:15:48 <jflory7> Next article?
22:15:52 <stickster> go4it!
22:16:01 <jflory7> #info === "Project Remote Dependency Solving" ===
22:16:05 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12113&preview=true
22:16:15 * jflory7 hasn't looked at this one at all yet
22:17:29 <jflory7> As far as I can tell, the scope looks pretty good
22:17:41 <jflory7> Seems to need an editing touch-up to help improve readability a bit
22:17:54 * jflory7 can imagine this shipping on Wednesday
22:18:03 <robyduck> same as plasma?
22:18:14 <jflory7> robyduck: Yeah, same resolution, I think
22:18:16 <robyduck> any idea for a featured image?
22:18:17 * fale did not know about the existence of this project
22:18:25 <jflory7> Unless someone technical has any objections to any content in there.
22:18:46 <fale> some close-shot to some electronic board?
22:19:11 <jflory7> It has a lot of code snippets but there's enough content to balance it so I feel good about it
22:19:15 <stickster> jflory7: I can take up the text editing on this one
22:19:20 <jflory7> fale: Seems like a good idea to me.
22:20:13 <jflory7> stickster: Hmm -- if you'd like, I can take M-W articles if you take the Friday article? My schedule is lighter earlier in the week so it's easier for me to do the M-W article not so last minute. :)
22:20:21 <stickster> jflory7: Ah, I gotcha
22:20:35 <jflory7> Willing to make the trade if you want. ;)
22:20:43 <stickster> What do we want for Friday? Cockpit?
22:20:50 * stickster will hold off until we get there :-)
22:20:55 <jflory7> That's what I'm thinking
22:20:58 <jflory7> But for this article...
22:21:00 <jflory7> Wednesday?
22:21:01 <jflory7> Usual time?
22:21:22 <stickster> #agreed publish remote depsolving article at 8 UTC on Wed 2016-03-09
22:21:25 <stickster> :-)
22:21:38 <stickster> #action jflory7 edit the depsolving article content
22:22:00 <stickster> jflory7: I would like to #action ryanlerch with an image here :-)
22:22:21 <jflory7> stickster: +1
22:22:24 <jflory7> Works for me.
22:22:38 <fale> +1
22:22:40 * stickster notes that zodbot won't pick this up properly due to lack of ryanlerch being in-channel
22:22:49 <jflory7> Aha, but!
22:22:53 <jflory7> #nick ryanlerch
22:22:54 <stickster> #info ryanlerch is hereby tasked with a featured image for the remote depsolving article
22:22:56 <robyduck> :)
22:22:56 <jflory7> Now try. :)
22:22:59 <stickster> #undo
22:22:59 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by stickster at 22:22:54 : ryanlerch is hereby tasked with a featured image for the remote depsolving article
22:23:09 <jflory7> That's a new MeetBot command I recently picked up
22:23:09 <stickster> #action ryanlerch make a featured image for the remote depsolving article
22:23:16 <jflory7> It will add a nick as if they were present in the meeting
22:23:16 <stickster> coolio
22:23:25 <stickster> jflory7++
22:23:42 <jflory7> :)
22:23:42 <stickster> I think we can move forward then
22:23:43 <jflory7> Alright, next article?
22:23:45 <jflory7> +1
22:23:52 <jflory7> #info === cockpit overview ===
22:23:56 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10867&preview=true
22:23:59 <stickster> I volunteer! I volunteer!
22:24:09 <jflory7> stickster++
22:24:13 <stickster> #action stickster edit the cockpit article for publication next week
22:24:16 <stickster> Friday publication?
22:24:19 <jflory7> Friday publication?
22:24:20 <jflory7> Yep
22:24:21 <stickster> haha
22:24:22 <jflory7> Hahah
22:24:32 <stickster> #agreed publish cockpit on Friday 2016-03-11
22:24:34 <jflory7> We're on the same wavelength here.
22:24:40 <jflory7> Now, to drafts?
22:24:45 <stickster> I'm sure I can make a featured image for this one licketysplit
22:24:49 <jflory7> Awesome.
22:24:52 <stickster> #action stickster also make a featuerd image for cockpit article
22:26:06 <stickster> onward!
22:26:31 <jflory7> #topic Drafts
22:26:42 <jflory7> #info === "Gimp – A fast overview" ===
22:26:50 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=11874&preview=true
22:27:07 <jflory7> I can't remember what status this article was in?
22:27:11 <jflory7> It seems like it could be done
22:27:14 <jflory7> Wasn't sure if she wanted to add more
22:27:26 <stickster> jflory7: I think more is probably needed given what sylvia was proposing
22:27:45 <jflory7> Yeah, I kind of remember the discussion
22:27:53 <stickster> she agreed to show off some of the comparisons for people used to another program; but so far only some File menu entries are given
22:28:02 <jflory7> I don't think she gave a date for this one so it probably has some more work to do
22:28:04 <jflory7> Gotcha.
22:28:16 <stickster> But I definitely think she's done some other work
22:28:21 <jflory7> Mhmm, KDE article for sure
22:28:41 <jflory7> So her cycles have been busy on some other pieces.
22:28:54 <cydrobolt> hi
22:28:54 <jflory7> I think maybe making a general aim for the week following this one might be nice.
22:28:57 <jflory7> cydrobolt: o/
22:28:59 <jflory7> #chair cydrobolt
22:28:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: cydrobolt fale jflory7 robyduck stickster
22:29:05 <stickster> agreed
22:29:09 <robyduck> hi cydrobolt
22:29:18 <cydrobolt> hey robyduck
22:29:27 <stickster> #action jflory7 suggest on list to Sylvia that we could take her Gimp article for the week of 2016-03-14 to -18
22:29:47 * jflory7 nods
22:29:50 <jflory7> Next article?
22:29:58 <stickster> +1
22:30:02 <jflory7> #info === "Installing another desktop" ===
22:30:06 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=11395&preview=true
22:30:12 <jflory7> So this is the forked leftover from the KDE article
22:30:12 <stickster> This one is so close to done
22:30:17 <stickster> Just needs the GNOME part
22:30:27 <jflory7> I think the idea was to make this MATE / GNOME-specific
22:30:29 <stickster> Oh wait
22:30:30 <stickster> yes
22:30:31 <stickster> sorry
22:30:41 <jflory7> I like the idea of just making this a MATE article.
22:30:47 <jflory7> Giving it a nice highlight and general usage overview
22:30:51 * stickster too -- which means it's technically done
22:31:08 <jflory7> Mhmm. I think this one could definitely ship week after this one.
22:31:11 <stickster> We could line that up for the week of the 14th which gives some breathing room too
22:31:22 <jflory7> Yeah.
22:31:23 <jflory7> +1
22:31:44 <stickster> #agreed line this up as a MATE article for week of 14th
22:31:53 * stickster strips out small GNOME section and moves to Pending Review
22:32:12 <jflory7> Sounds good to me!
22:32:13 <stickster> done
22:32:14 <jflory7> Aaaand next?
22:32:18 <stickster> +1
22:32:29 <jflory7> #info === "Protect your privacy with OpenVPN" ===
22:32:33 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=10253&preview=true
22:32:45 <jflory7> So, this one has been sitting in the holding pen since October...
22:32:51 <jflory7> Until now.
22:32:56 <stickster> Has it had this much content?
22:32:58 <jflory7> I started it and pretty much wrote all of the non-technical sides of it
22:33:01 <jflory7> Yeah, it has.
22:33:03 <stickster> oops, yeah
22:33:18 <jflory7> But then I was going to use OpenVPN Access Server and found out it has a non-friendly license.
22:33:30 <jflory7> So we were going to do it the traditional way, but I didn't have the experience to write about it
22:33:38 <jflory7> puiterwijk was going to pair up with me and work on it.
22:33:50 <jflory7> I think putting this on the queue for that same week after this week is a good idea.
22:34:08 <stickster> +1
22:34:21 * fale can help with the openvpn article
22:34:25 <jflory7> It really just needs the server + client configuration done. All of the overview / intro stuff should be done.
22:34:29 <jflory7> fale++
22:34:42 <jflory7> If puiterwijk is around, he might be able to say what he thinks he can do.
22:35:47 <stickster> jflory7: He's on travel IIRC
22:36:06 <stickster> jflory7: Maybe touch base with him tomorrow?
22:36:34 <jflory7> Yeah, sounds good to me.
22:36:51 <jflory7> Depending on what he says, we can see if he would like fale to pick it up too
22:36:56 <jflory7> We'll check in with him for sure
22:37:02 <fale> wfm
22:37:04 <jflory7> I know he has a pretty full plate most days :)
22:37:18 <jflory7> +1 for checking in with puiterwijk later on tomorrow or the weekend
22:39:03 * jflory7 will do an #agree real fast
22:39:25 <stickster> yeah
22:39:26 <jflory7> #agreed jflory7 will check in with puiterwijk tomorrow about the status of the OpenVPN article and when he feels like we could get it finished; fale is also interested in helping with this article if puiterwijk would like to pass the torch too
22:39:35 <stickster> fale++
22:39:45 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Check in with puiterwijk tomorrow about the OpenVPN article
22:39:52 <stickster> pingou:
22:39:55 <stickster> oops, sorry
22:39:56 <jflory7> And now, pitches?
22:40:13 <stickster> +1
22:40:45 <jflory7> #topic Pitches
22:40:55 <jflory7> #info === "Using the Files app series" ===
22:40:59 <jflory7> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=12091&preview=true
22:41:04 <jflory7> +1000
22:41:25 <jflory7> Love the idea. Plus they're super easy to write about... very good topic for anyone wanting to get their hands dirty on Magazine writing. :)
22:41:48 <stickster> Soooooo.... I did discover that Files has an unfortunate habit of generating a funny-looking panel when you try some of these operations (like searching)
22:42:06 <stickster> But if I stick to the other ones, that should suffice -- like connecting to an SSH share, sorting, or connecting to a Windows share
22:42:17 <stickster> I really want to do those as very small, targeted articles, precisely to up the SEO
22:42:23 <jflory7> Mhmm.
22:42:24 <jflory7> +1
22:42:43 <jflory7> I see no reason to oppose the beginnings of this series. :)
22:43:04 <jflory7> I see a good starter topic of making drafts for each individual piece, so someone looking for something to write about can know exactly what needs to be done
22:43:29 <stickster> I really will try to start it this weekend
22:43:47 <stickster> Last weekend was a bust for a number of reasons out of my control, but I think I can make it happen this time
22:43:57 <stickster> If anyone else wanted to do one, I'd be happy to edit
22:44:10 <stickster> I don't need to own the whole series (and would rather not if it means contribution) :-)
22:44:13 <jflory7> Plus, there's no huge rush for this
22:44:18 <jflory7> Next week is all planned out
22:44:18 <stickster> agreed
22:44:24 <jflory7> We have a full week down on the map
22:44:39 <stickster> Ultimately I'd like to get to the point of saturation of content so we can pick and choose... we seem to go from rags to riches sometimes
22:45:00 <jflory7> Yeah, I definitely agree with that
22:45:14 <jflory7> I think series like these where we can make stubs is fantastic
22:45:23 <jflory7> Short and sweet little pieces that are easy to write about and easy to edit
22:46:35 <jflory7> Anyways, I think we can definitely approve this series. :)
22:46:55 <jflory7> #agreed Series approved! Plan is to begin writing stubs for each article idea so people know what there is to do and where they can help with this series.
22:47:01 <jflory7> stickster++
22:47:07 <stickster> boom
22:47:19 <stickster> Hopefully there will be some new things to write about for it in F24... we'll see
22:47:35 <jflory7> Definitely. And actually...
22:47:44 <jflory7> Marketing is working on getting talking points for all of the different editions...
22:47:55 <jflory7> Might make good reservoir of ideas to pluck from. :)
22:48:12 <jflory7> jzb++ fale++ sesivany++
22:49:07 <jflory7> Anyways, I think that finishes our queue of article
22:49:11 <jflory7> #topic Open Floor
22:49:15 <jflory7> Wow, an open floor!
22:49:20 <jflory7> Anything we want to hit on?
22:49:22 <stickster> woop woop
22:49:40 <stickster> Nothing substantial from me, honestly
22:49:50 <stickster> mattdm++ for the timely DROWN article
22:50:05 <jflory7> In the Marketing meetings, we've been trying to hit on some higher-level direction for the Magazine, but we kept running out of time. But I'm putting it at the front of the agenda for next week so I imagine we'll definitely have that discussion at the outset
22:50:23 <jflory7> mattdm++ for sure, that was definitely right on time
22:50:52 <fale> jflory7: what kind of decision are you aiming for?
22:51:10 <stickster> jflory7: The main input I have for that -- and I can make it next week -- is that we want to keep the Magazine aimed at people outside our inner circle -- give them information they can put to use. But it's *not* strictly for beginning users
22:51:33 <stickster> For instance, more articles for developers, sysadmins, or cloud lovers are INCREDIBLY welcome
22:51:46 <jflory7> Right -- I like the direction of some of the sysadmin articles
22:51:58 <stickster> and even quick news or tips about something Fedora related works really well
22:52:07 <jflory7> They appeal to a unique demographic and have a lot of search-abilityness
22:52:08 <stickster> Our articles that stray off that path are demonstrably lower value to the readership
22:52:16 <stickster> at least that's what the stats tell us
22:52:21 * jflory7 nods
22:52:33 <jflory7> Good metrics to know.
22:52:53 <stickster> Also, would love to have a bridge to Marketing that ensures all articles get social media love
22:52:59 <jflory7> +100
22:53:04 <stickster> but... I'll bring these to discussion :-)
22:53:07 <jflory7> Definitely :)
22:53:09 * stickster doen
22:53:12 <stickster> um done
22:53:12 <jflory7> stickster++
22:53:19 <jflory7> I think with that, we can close out for tonight
22:53:21 <stickster> +1
22:53:24 <jflory7> Going once--
22:53:29 <jflory7> Going twice--
22:53:30 <stickster> fale: cydrobolt: jflory7: thanks for being here!
22:53:33 <jflory7> Going thrice--
22:53:43 <fale> thanks all :)
22:53:44 <jflory7> stickster: Thank you as well :)
22:53:45 <stickster> robyduck: you too!
22:53:46 <jflory7> #endmeeting