21:00:17 <pravins> #startmeeting g11n 21:00:17 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Feb 25 21:00:17 2016 UTC. The chair is pravins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:17 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 21:00:17 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'g11n' 21:00:17 <pravins> #meetingname g11n 21:00:17 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'g11n' 21:00:17 <pravins> #topic agenda and roll call 21:00:17 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2016-02-25 21:00:31 <pravins> who available for meeting today? 21:01:02 <aeng> hi pravins 21:01:27 <Jobava> hello 21:01:35 <pravins> hi aeng Jobava :) 21:01:49 <pravins> #chair Jobava aeng 21:01:49 <zodbot> Current chairs: Jobava aeng pravins 21:01:52 <Jobava> thanks for showing up so late in the night 21:02:09 <Jobava> hi noriko 21:02:17 <noriko> hi Jobava ! 21:02:25 <Jobava> I've never been into a g11n meeting, so maybe pravin or noriko lead it? 21:02:44 <pravins> Jobava: no problem, its great to have discussion with you all :) 21:02:46 <noriko> usually pravins will do :) 21:02:56 <pravins> hi noriko :) 21:03:00 <pravins> #chair noriko 21:03:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: Jobava aeng noriko pravins 21:03:40 <pravins> ^^ jflory7 puiterwijk fale just in case around :) 21:03:51 * puiterwijk reads 21:03:57 <puiterwijk> Ah, hi. 21:04:06 <pravins> #chair puiterwijk 21:04:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: Jobava aeng noriko pravins puiterwijk 21:04:31 <pravins> we have good number, lets try to complete meeting by 22 UTC. 21:04:36 <noriko> puiterwijk, :) 21:04:55 <puiterwijk> Ah, g11n meeting. Sorry, my mind was unable to read for a second there :) 21:05:15 <pravins> Jobava: I will lead today, lets find someone else for next time in Open Floor :) 21:05:22 <pravins> jonatoni: hi :) 21:05:29 <pravins> #chair jonatoni 21:05:29 <zodbot> Current chairs: Jobava aeng jonatoni noriko pravins puiterwijk 21:05:50 <pravins> #topic Upcoming schedule 21:05:50 <pravins> #info 2016-03-08 Alpha Freeze (*) 21:05:50 <pravins> #info 2016-03-08 Software String Freeze 21:05:50 <pravins> #info 2016-03-08 Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable) 21:05:50 <pravins> #info 2016-03-08 Bodhi activation point 21:05:50 <pravins> #info 2016-03-22 Alpha Release 21:05:52 <pravins> #info 2016-04-05 Software Translation Deadline 21:05:54 <pravins> #info 2016-04-19 Beta Freeze (*) 21:05:56 <pravins> #info 2016-04-19 Change Checkpoint: 100% Code Complete Deadline 21:06:13 <pravins> If you have seen earlier F24 branching is already done. 21:06:18 <pravins> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/GXVKAAFY3EDQMNGCSJPNQRSLEONCB2MH/ 21:06:24 <jonatoni> Hi ;) sorry for being a bit late 21:06:57 <pravins> jonatoni: no problem, you are just in time. :) 21:07:19 <Jobava> what's bodhi? 21:07:56 <pravins> bodhi is where we submit testing build for particular release Alpha., Beta and then testers provide karma there to make it stable. 21:08:06 <pravins> #link http://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/ 21:08:49 <jibecfed> hi 21:08:53 <pravins> hi jibecfed :) 21:08:56 <pravins> #chair jibecfed 21:08:56 <zodbot> Current chairs: Jobava aeng jibecfed jonatoni noriko pravins puiterwijk 21:09:05 <decause> .hello decause 21:09:06 <zodbot> decause: decause 'Remy DeCausemaker' <decause@redhat.com> 21:09:17 <decause> sorry I'm late :) 21:09:21 <jonatoni> .hello jonatoni 21:09:22 <zodbot> jonatoni: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' <jonaazizaj@gmail.com> 21:09:22 <pravins> hey decause,, glad to see you :) 21:09:27 <decause> pravins: gald to be here 21:09:27 <pravins> #chair decause 21:09:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: Jobava aeng decause jibecfed jonatoni noriko pravins puiterwijk 21:09:33 <decause> talked with aeng for a good while last night 21:09:41 <decause> wanted to make sure I was here 21:09:45 <aeng> well.. morning for me.. lll 21:09:59 <pravins> Wow, we have big group in meeting today. :) 21:10:00 <decause> aeng++ 21:10:23 <jibecfed> eseyman++ 21:10:23 <zodbot> jibecfed: Karma for eseyman changed to 1 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:10:56 <pravins> moving to next topic. 21:11:01 <pravins> #topic Fedor 24 L10N test day planning 21:11:04 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/18 21:11:24 <pravins> I have added this as a first ticket, since test days are good way to understand what thing is there. what's not working. Basically first step to start contribution. 21:11:35 <pravins> If you have seen earlier emails on trans and fltg list. 29th March has been decided as a date for this. 21:11:59 <pravins> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/fltg@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/O2CR62T4RRF25PSYPGSDH4KNNSHLR3IU/ 21:12:36 <jibecfed> this date is the focus day, but testing will last for 7 days, isn't it ? 21:12:40 * noriko is glad that aeng and decause connected 21:12:47 <pravins> #info 29th March is decided as a L10N test day. 21:13:06 <decause> pravins: when you folks are ready to announce, commops would like to do a blog post announcing the day 21:13:07 <pravins> yeah, we ideally keep Window open for 1week. So more people can submit test results. 21:13:12 <decause> we're happy to help you draft it as well 21:13:26 <pravins> decause: excellent, that is what we want to discuss today :) 21:13:28 <decause> pravins: we discussed this a bit at DevConf 21:13:32 <decause> :) 21:13:42 <pravins> basically, What are actions items for successful test day? 21:14:11 * pravins hoping Ani might join, who is leading test day on the behalf of FLTG. 21:14:18 <pravins> 1. Preparing test day Wiki 21:14:18 <pravins> 2. Getting test-image for QA for testday 21:14:18 <pravins> 3. Writing article in community blog prior test day. 21:14:18 <pravins> 4. Proposing badges for test day. 21:14:47 <pravins> Did i missed anything? 21:16:00 <noriko> just to make sure, the badges here refers to travel badge, right? -> decause 21:16:08 <decause> pravins: the badges proposals will have to go in sooner than later (there is a bit of process that comes along with getting them approved) 21:16:22 <decause> noriko: WE wanted to make a badge for the event as a start 21:16:35 <aeng> +1 21:16:36 <decause> we would be able to create a QRCode for folks to scan, if they wanted to do local events in person 21:16:38 <pravins> good point. 21:17:03 <decause> is there a logo or banner for TEst Days or FLTG already? 21:17:03 <pravins> i think 1st and 2nd action item will be lead by Ani. 21:17:19 <pravins> decause: we had one badge during F22 21:17:23 * decause will help with #3 and #4, but needs copilots 21:17:27 <pravins> #info Badge created during Fedora 22 https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/i18n-test-day-participant 21:17:34 <decause> great! 21:17:50 <aeng> wow 21:17:51 <pravins> I am just thinking should we have 2 badges. i.e. one for L10N testing and other for i18n testing? 21:17:51 <jibecfed> is the name good ? is t really only i18n related ? ;) 21:17:52 <pravins> or single 21:17:56 <decause> I tihnk we can propose a new badge, and just add a year to it 21:18:12 <decause> jibecfed: we can change the name, but reuse the art 21:18:18 <decause> that would be my proposal 21:18:19 <pravins> +1 21:18:20 <aeng> hmmm.. do we really need year specific badge? 21:18:32 <decause> aeng: these events happen for each release, es? 21:18:33 <decause> yes? 21:18:38 <aeng> yup 21:18:40 <puiterwijk> I would vote for release-specific badge rather than year-specific 21:18:47 <decause> so, we can add "F24" to the foreground, and then have one each time 21:18:51 <pravins> +1 for release specific. 21:18:55 <aeng> +1 21:18:55 <decause> puiterwijk: beat me to it ;) 21:18:59 <decause> +1 21:19:02 <Jobava> L10n strings often are missing adequate context information in the comment, maybe a badge for improving L10n descriptions? 21:19:23 <pravins> Jobava: good points. 21:19:24 <noriko> +1 21:19:29 <decause> Jobava: we certainly want to start accumulating badge ideas/concepts for more g11n badges 21:19:35 <pravins> I think we should have two badges. 1 for L10N and other for I18N 21:19:44 <decause> we want more representation for the groups, so we can get more contributors 21:19:54 <decause> we should start keeping a list somewhere, maybe on the wiki? 21:20:04 <pravins> both these test days get organized differently and even participants are different. 21:20:09 <jibecfed> should we distinct l10n & i18n for contributors ? 21:20:11 <decause> I don't think we should spend too much time if we have an agenda to get through today, but I *really* wanna help with badges ideas 21:20:24 <jibecfed> for them, it's about the same, and we try to push "g11n" concept 21:20:33 <noriko> we should distinct l10n and i18n, yes 21:21:08 <pravins> If you see https://fedoramagazine.org/globalization-test-days-report-fedora-23/ participants were different. 21:21:11 <noriko> it is not g11n testing. 21:21:27 <decause> I think there is room for badges for all 3 21:21:44 <decause> it is good, so folks know what all the pieces are that go into shipping 21:21:56 <pravins> good point !! 21:22:03 <decause> I'm just trying to wrap my head around which events are which :P 21:22:13 <jibecfed> I would say, test day is global : g11n may be better 21:22:18 <decause> if we have existing badge art, that will help us *alot* to get new badges for the events this year 21:22:29 <jibecfed> i18n is testing for glibc or new layout 21:22:31 <pravins> #info Good to have badges for l10n, i18n and even for g11n. It will help members to understand pieces as well. 21:22:35 <decause> after the events, we can get concepts ready for the next badges sprint/fad 21:22:42 <jibecfed> l10n should be zanata related contributions 21:23:04 <pravins> Should i add agree for 2 badges as of now? Vote :) 21:23:06 <decause> jibecfed: aeng was going to meet with threebean and puiterwijk to see about getting fedmsg+zanata things figured out 21:23:11 <decause> last I heard 21:23:33 <decause> +1 on 2 badges (there are 2 events, yeah) 21:23:34 * jflory7 is here now 21:23:35 <pravins> decause: that is our next topic :) 21:23:36 <jibecfed> the idea is not to push one name more than another, but to help contributors 21:23:45 * decause is doing good at being in the loop right now :P 21:23:53 <jflory7> pravins: Thanks for the ping! 21:23:54 <pravins> +1 from me as well for 2 badges. 21:24:01 <jonatoni> +1 from me 21:24:09 <pravins> jflory7: welcome :) 21:24:35 <jibecfed> anyway, ok for 2 badges 21:24:48 <pravins> noriko: aeng vote :) 21:25:01 <aeng> +1 on 2 badges 21:25:03 <noriko> yes i18n + l10n = 2 :) 21:25:07 <pravins> #agreed Two badges for G11N test days (i18n and l10n) 21:25:33 <pravins> moving to next topic 21:25:39 <pravins> #topic Implementing Fedora badges for translations in Zanata 21:25:39 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/19 21:26:24 <pravins> We talked this during FAD in Nov 2015. But with recent discussions in DevConf-2016 with decause Jobava fale puiterwijk its importance even further strengthened 21:26:56 <pravins> its like a blocker for activities like vFAD for translations. 21:27:06 <aeng> yup, so i will make some prototype of Zanata firing contribution events, and threebean will be able to test it out 21:27:24 <decause> aeng++ 21:27:33 <aeng> but keep in mind, even if its implemented, the feature wont be available until Zanata next release, 3.9 21:27:52 <aeng> and we are targeting April-May 21:28:15 <noriko> sound great :) 21:28:18 <decause> pravins: in think getting the events badges will be a good start, and then april/may won't be so far away :) 21:28:25 <decause> I'm excited too 21:28:28 <pravins> aha, good point. 21:28:29 <decause> because 21:28:36 <decause> I have a much better idea of how much activity comes from translation 21:28:46 <decause> and the value that comes from it, we are going to be able to show 21:29:11 <decause> it was very enlightening make the "3 bubble" chart fo the "State of Fedora" talks in Europe 21:29:36 <decause> I think g11n and all the pieces will make a very interesting 4th bubble if we can tie it all together :) 21:29:36 <pravins> agree with you. 21:29:57 * decause tries not to take the meeting off the rails though with hand-wavy things ;) 21:30:18 <pravins> hehe, no this information is very motivating :) 21:30:38 <Jobava> "translation is a low-threshhold onboarding option for Fedora" -- can we add this to meeting notes? 21:30:49 <decause> g11n was easily one of the highlights of going to Europe this year, and I hope to make a habit of it at future premier events :) 21:31:01 <pravins> #info translation is a low-threshhold onboarding option for Fedora 21:31:32 <Jobava> on the software side it may e encouraged by the 'first start' app, if the language selected is largely incomplete there could be a shout-out to potential contributors 21:31:40 <pravins> aeng: can we write down steps to get this activity done? i.e. Connecting FedBus with Zanata commit etc. 21:31:51 <jibecfed> please remember to lower the thresholds ;) 21:32:12 <aeng> 1) Prototype from Zanata in test instance 21:32:16 <pravins> I have clear picture but it will be very helpful for other members to understand where we stuck, so we all can keep pinging ;) 21:32:23 <aeng> 2) Fed inftra to test to out 21:32:55 <aeng> of course, we need to work out the details need to send out from Zanata 21:33:14 <pravins> right. 21:33:28 <decause> aeng: keep me in the loop if you want, fedmsg is one of my fav infra projects :) 21:33:48 <aeng> of course :) 21:33:55 <pravins> 3) Once connect done, decide on badges range. right? like for 1, 10, 100 commits etc 21:34:26 <aeng> yup, so the logic on badges will be in fedora badge system, not Zanata 21:34:29 <decause> pravins: I think we decided on 'per release consecutive' badges 21:34:51 <pravins> decause: yes. 21:34:53 <aeng> yup, per release 21:35:04 <noriko> +1 per release 21:35:13 * decause thought that was a really good bit of feedback from our meeting 21:35:19 <decause> and the reason our current badges are hanging 21:35:23 <pravins> #info Zanata and FedBus connect mostly happen with 3.9 release coming out in April/May 2016. 21:35:28 <decause> the art for them is *rilly* good too 21:35:37 <decause> riecatnor++ 21:35:37 <zodbot> decause: Karma for riecatnor changed to 4 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:35:54 <pravins> aeng++ 21:36:05 * pravins will add information to ticket later. 21:37:07 <noriko> we are talking about l10n test badge badge and i18n test badge, right? 21:37:39 <noriko> onboarding and per-release badges are different, right? as we discussed at devconf 21:37:39 <aeng> contribution badges now 21:37:44 <noriko> cool 21:37:53 <pravins> noriko: that topic has been done. So as agreed we will have 1 badge for l10n test day and other i18n test day. 21:38:08 <pravins> moving to next topic. 21:38:14 <pravins> #topic vFAD for Translations 21:38:14 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/5 21:38:17 <Jobava> what's the name of the 'first start' app which runs after the first install of fedora? (not sure if available just for gnome) 21:38:38 <puiterwijk> Jobava: gnome-initial-setup 21:39:04 <pravins> puiterwijk++ 21:39:04 <zodbot> pravins: Karma for puiterwijk changed to 36 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:39:26 <pravins> I took this again from aeng notes from yesterdays meeting with CommOPS 21:39:36 <pravins> We were calling it L10N sprint earlier. 21:39:53 <aeng> yup, so remy wants to finalise the details for vFAD 21:40:12 <aeng> and make sure to announce it 2-3 weeks before string freeze 21:40:18 <decause> this would be the test-day events we just talked about having badges for, yes? 21:40:21 <Jobava> can gnome-initial-setup have a shout-out for translation contributors if the locale selected is largely missing? Either for Fedora itself (anaconda, abrt, websites) or upstream Gnome (gnome have a different process though which is far less friendly toward newbies) 21:40:52 <decause> since string freeze is very soon, we may not be able to get 2-3 weeks, but at least one week would be nice 21:41:02 <noriko> decause, this should be onboarding badge, we talked at devconf 21:41:18 <pravins> Jobava: good point !! 21:41:21 <aeng> yup, so need to get the details finalised asap 21:41:26 <decause> noriko: no, onboarding badges are the steps you take to become a member of the group 21:41:41 <pravins> noriko: we need someone to lead vFAD. 21:42:03 <pravins> again, will be nice to have steps/action item to get it. and people responsible for same. 21:42:54 <aeng> need someone to lead, but at the same time, delegate to language lead 21:42:56 <decause> pravins: the test days, how many places usually do them? 21:43:13 <decause> does each language lead usually do the test-days? 21:43:24 <decause> in a local physical place? 21:43:48 <pravins> yeah, one need to do it for every language. mostly physical by installing test-image 21:44:02 <Jobava> Romanian Fedora is only me for now :( But GNOME has a few people (including me) 21:44:05 <noriko> decause, test day is led by ani on irc usually 21:44:16 <pravins> aeng: yeah, we need one/two lead for leading vFAD 21:44:16 <decause> noriko: gotcha 21:44:24 <noriko> I don't hear much being done on local place yet. 21:44:37 <aeng> so mainly in IRC 21:44:39 <aeng> ? 21:44:42 <decause> that's fine, if it is normally an IRC thing, that is good to know 21:44:44 <noriko> atm, yes 21:44:59 <aeng> so vFAD would be on IRC too? 21:45:01 <decause> here is what we did for the python3 porting vFAD: 21:45:35 <decause> https://fedoramagazine.org/help-port-python-packages-python-3/ 21:45:36 <jflory7> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/help-port-python-packages-to-python-3/ 21:45:36 <decause> and 21:45:42 <decause> yeah, jflory beat me to it 21:45:55 <jflory7> There's one more, there was a post-wrapup 21:45:56 * jflory7 digs 21:46:05 <pravins> :) 21:46:33 <jflory7> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/python-3-porting-fad-weve-done-lot-things/ 21:46:46 <decause> we would want to do a simliar thing, where we announce the event, do interview(s) with the leads, announce the badge for participation. Then after do a follow-up post 21:46:50 <pravins> nice post !! 21:47:03 <pravins> perfect. 21:47:20 <decause> we want to do *this* for test days :) 21:47:24 <decause> each time 21:47:25 <pravins> 1. Plan evens - Here i think it will be list of packages those needs translations. 21:47:35 <decause> make it a regular thing, so that we can drive more people to contribute 21:47:57 <pravins> 2. Plan date - Here it will be Windows before Translation freeze. 21:48:05 <decause> pravins: yep 21:49:19 <pravins> 3. Plan badges. 21:49:26 <pravins> 4. Post of Magazine 21:49:31 <pravins> 5, Execute it. 21:49:49 <pravins> noriko: we need lead for vFAD. 21:49:57 <pravins> it can be 2-3 people as well. 21:49:57 <decause> pravins: magazine and/or commblog, def commblog though. 21:50:06 <jflory7> CommBlog++ 21:50:12 <decause> pravins: ani is the regular lead, yes? 21:50:19 <noriko> yes 21:50:25 <pravins> very less time remaining, if we do it well before Window, good chance to get more contribution. 21:50:55 <decause> I think commops can help you get the post up next week, prolly mid-week, unless we get a draft done sooner. 21:50:56 <pravins> decause: Ani is lead for FLTG. but yeah she can also help vFAD. 21:51:18 <noriko> selecting lead can rely on active community, rather g11n meeting limited person 21:51:45 <pravins> noriko: it can be self nominated as well. :) 21:52:27 <noriko> that is the reason we should ask the channel where many ore active community members there. 21:52:35 <pravins> +1 21:52:40 <decause> mailing list too? 21:52:50 <noriko> +1 21:52:56 <jibecfed> I said in last meeting I'll propose a blog post, is it related to that subject ?: #info jibecfed planning to propose article in Fedora Magazine/Community Blog for Status of Translation, Langpacks introduction and how to contribute. 21:53:06 <decause> as long as we have the info we need for the announcement, we can start drafting that 21:53:23 <decause> getting the "save the date" announcment out sooner than later is important 21:53:27 <puiterwijk> jibecfed: I think this blog post would be aimed specifically at the vFAD 21:53:29 <pravins> jibecfed: i think this post will be prior to vFAD 21:53:47 <jibecfed> fine 21:53:54 <decause> to be clear: the vFAD and the test days are the same thing, yes? 21:54:09 <decause> that is my understanding 21:54:14 <pravins> no. 21:54:16 <decause> no 21:54:19 <decause> ... 21:54:20 <decause> ok 21:54:22 <pravins> :) 21:54:46 * decause is still new to g11n side of the project obv 21:55:12 <pravins> less time remaing. please be with me for more 10min may be :) 21:55:17 <decause> the test days don't happen during this same time we're talking about (2 weeks after string freeze?) 21:55:20 <noriko> decause, g11n is just supporting group. actualy groups are l10n, i18n, zanata and fltg. 21:55:48 <pravins> noriko: +1 21:55:52 <decause> noriko: nod nod 21:56:13 <pravins> we all need to push more for vFAD :) 21:56:17 <pravins> moving to next topic 21:56:18 <pravins> #topic G11N planning for Fedora 24 21:56:18 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/16 21:56:37 <decause> brb 21:56:51 <pravins> This is just for information right now. We were planning to highlight all development plans for F24 and mentor/owner for it. 21:57:11 <pravins> jibecfed has added number of important items there already and following up it as well. 21:57:20 <Jobava> can we have a list of priorities to do in Zanata, maybe for people still new to it? 21:57:29 * jflory7 notes the Magazine meeting is due to start here in three minutes 21:57:45 <jibecfed> jobava: hard to tell 21:58:09 <pravins> jibecfed: this ticket is same. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Fedora_24_G11N_Enhancements 21:58:46 <pravins> and here goes ani :) 21:58:58 <ani> :) 21:59:01 <pravins> #chair ani 21:59:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: Jobava aeng ani decause jibecfed jonatoni noriko pravins puiterwijk 21:59:06 <jibecfed> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/List_of_Fedora_sites is moving on 21:59:25 * puiterwijk was just going to give pravins the definition of "meeting" for assigning stuff to ani :D 21:59:27 <ani> thanks pravins 21:59:40 <pravins> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/List_of_Fedora_sites is moving on. 21:59:41 <Jobava> in Fedora I would say: anaconda, websites (needs a list in order of priority), InitialSetup (very short), abrt in that order, and from GNOME: control-center 21:59:53 <ani> puiterwijk, lol ;D 21:59:55 <jibecfed> but we need to make guidelines and involve more people from INFRA and WEBSITES 22:00:09 <puiterwijk> pravins: meeting, n.: An assembly of people coming together to decide what person or department not represented in the room must solve a problem. 22:00:12 <pravins> puiterwijk +1 i am sometime weak in creating action items ;) 22:00:13 <jibecfed> I'll send a mail to their mailing lists 22:00:14 <noriko> puiterwijk, XD 22:00:24 <pravins> ha ha, good one !!! 22:00:36 <pravins> jibecfed: sure. thanks :) 22:00:48 <pravins> in between moving to next topic ;) 22:00:48 <pravins> #topic Stop G11N mailing lists emails to trans, i18n and l10n 22:00:48 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/20 22:00:52 <jflory7> pravins: For future reference, might be a good idea to use #fedora-meeting-1 for G11n meetings, the Magazine meeting usually starts here in this channel at this time. I think we can use #fedora-meeting-1 for today. 22:01:11 <pravins> ohh, i was afraid for same. 22:01:19 <aeng> hahahhaha 22:01:31 <aeng> calendar should shows it? 22:01:33 <puiterwijk> jflory7: how about merge the G11N and magazine meetings? :) 22:01:33 <stickster> jflory7: Agreed. pravins, feel free to keep using this channel for today, and you can switch in the calendar afterward. 22:01:34 <pravins> just 2min. 22:01:36 <pravins> #topic Stop G11N mailing lists emails to trans, i18n and l10n 22:01:36 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/20 22:01:46 <stickster> If it's just 2 min we can wait though :-) 22:02:01 <aeng> moving on pravins 22:02:09 <pravins> Due to less awareness we decided to broadcast g11n list email to trans, fltg and i18n 22:02:12 <pravins> but i think we can stop now 22:02:24 <puiterwijk> +1. It confuses people (well, at least me) 22:02:29 <pravins> jibecfed: already mention it and even few more people complain about it. 22:02:34 <pravins> excellent 22:02:43 <pravins> #agreed to stop broadcasting g11n list email. 22:02:54 <jflory7> puiterwijk: :) 22:02:57 <jibecfed> +1 22:03:01 <noriko> +1 22:03:03 <pravins> #topic Open Floor 22:03:03 <jonatoni> +1 22:03:13 <pravins> Lets do open floor discussions on #fedora-g11n :) 22:03:22 <pravins> lucky we got stickster also in our meeting today ;) 22:03:26 <jibecfed> thanks all 22:03:26 <pravins> thanks all for meeting 22:03:35 <pravins> #endmeeting