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05:00:14 <pravins> #startmeeting g11n
05:00:14 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Dec 16 05:00:14 2015 UTC.  The chair is pravins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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05:00:18 <pravins> #meetingname g11n
05:00:18 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'g11n'
05:00:21 <pravins> #topic agenda and roll call
05:00:24 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetings/2015-12-16
05:00:34 <mfabian> Hi!
05:00:34 <paragan> Hi
05:00:42 <ueno> hi
05:00:43 <pravins> hi mfabian paragan :)
05:00:43 <fujiwarat> hi
05:00:45 <tagoh_> hi
05:00:52 <pravins> hi ueno fujiwarat tagoh_ :)
05:01:00 <juhp> hi
05:01:18 <pravins> hi juhp :)
05:01:29 <pravins> #chair mfabian paragan ueno fujiwarat tagoh_ juhp
05:01:29 <zodbot> Current chairs: fujiwarat juhp mfabian paragan pravins tagoh_ ueno
05:01:53 <noriko> hi
05:01:54 <pravins> #topic Upcoming schedule
05:01:59 <pravins> #info 2016-01-12 	Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (System Wide Changes)
05:01:59 <pravins> #info not scheduled yet 	Side Tag Builds Deadline
05:01:59 <pravins> #info not required 	Mass Rebuild
05:01:59 <pravins> #info 2016-02-02 	Branch Fedora 24 from Rawhide (Rawhide becomes future F25)
05:02:00 <pravins> #info 2016-02-16 	Alpha Freeze (*)
05:02:00 <pravins> #info 2016-02-16 	Software String Freeze
05:02:01 <pravins> #info 2016-02-16 	Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable)
05:02:03 <pravins> #info 2016-02-16 	Bodhi activation point
05:02:05 <pravins> no changes.
05:02:07 <pravins> hi noriko
05:02:11 <pravins> #chair noriko
05:02:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: fujiwarat juhp mfabian noriko paragan pravins tagoh_ ueno
05:02:28 <pravins> lets go through last week action items, then we can simply go through other topics
05:02:34 <pravins> #topic Action items
05:02:41 <suanand> (hi, sorry)
05:02:47 <epico> hi
05:03:01 <pravins> suanand: epico hi :)
05:03:08 <pravins> #chair suanand epico
05:03:08 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico fujiwarat juhp mfabian noriko paragan pravins suanand tagoh_ ueno
05:03:40 <pravins> #info aeng to ping Luke for survey blog post.
05:03:44 <pravins> Alex still not here.
05:03:59 <pravins> pravins to close #2
05:04:09 <pravins> I have closed ticket on moving translation deadline around Beta.
05:04:26 <pravins> pravins to create wiki and send on trans mailing list for feedback.
05:05:02 <pravins> This is still pending from me. This was basically for Fedora Globalization steering committee.
05:05:12 <pravins> #info noriko to post L10N sprint idea to trans mailing list.
05:05:23 <pravins> noriko: did you got a chance to post this to list?
05:05:49 <noriko> I've posted and actually we heard Albanian team also had 1st sprint.
05:05:59 <pravins> wow.
05:06:06 <noriko> I've created sprint/activity section, in l10n home page.
05:06:07 <pravins> and one more happening soon in Myanmar :)
05:06:18 <pravins> #info tagoh_ to drop email in mailing list g11n/devel regarding string
05:06:19 <pravins> breakage monitoring project.
05:06:20 <noriko> so that we can list them there.
05:06:41 <pravins> tagoh_: i dropped this idea to devel and g11n list with discussion we had in last meeting.
05:06:55 <noriko> pravins, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N#Localization_Sprint.2FActivitiy
05:06:56 <tagoh_> pravins: thanks
05:07:18 <pravins> tagoh_: but no reply/response from anyone :(
05:07:24 <pravins> may be we should continue discussion there?
05:09:05 <pravins> these were action items from last meeting, thanks to all for it :)
05:09:09 <tagoh_> pravins: perhaps
05:09:28 <pravins> yeah, we will get bit more visibility and chance for some feedback.
05:09:43 <pravins> moving to next topic
05:09:47 <pravins> #topic G11N FAD
05:09:47 <pravins> #info #43: G11N FAD in 2015
05:09:47 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43
05:09:57 <pravins> Any pending thing here?
05:10:42 <pravins> Everyone's expense claim is filled now. As soon as you get reimbursement in your account please close your G11N trac ticket
05:11:46 <pravins> We will drop this ticket from next meeting.
05:11:56 <pravins> #topic Zanata feedback survey
05:11:56 <pravins> #3: Zanata translation platform user survey
05:11:56 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/3
05:11:59 <pravins> lukebrooker: is here :)
05:12:21 <lukebrooker> Hi
05:12:24 <pravins> Only thing remaining from Survey perspective is making post on community blog of Fedora.
05:12:53 <pravins> lukebrooker: i think we have draft also ready, right?
05:12:55 <lukebrooker> pravins, I only remembered this week that I hadn't published it yet.
05:13:06 <lukebrooker> Yeah I made some changes recently.
05:13:27 <lukebrooker> I got some feedback from another member of the Zanata team
05:13:41 <pravins> nice.
05:13:48 <pravins> I have also gone through draft once.
05:13:50 <pravins> It was good.
05:13:52 <lukebrooker> happy for more feedback from those that haven't given it
05:14:04 <lukebrooker> I would like to publish it this week
05:14:05 <pravins> lukebrooker: any link of draft?
05:14:32 <lukebrooker> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18YRLc2OdmrSEnyN5ykJncj5SR67IDlM-UbTIyHOyG5I/edit
05:15:13 <pravins> thanks :)
05:16:19 <pravins> lukebrooker: next week most of the people will be away due to Christmas and new year celebration.
05:16:27 <pravins> i think good to release it this week only.
05:16:30 <pravins> say by Friday.
05:16:58 <lukebrooker> Sure
05:17:02 <lukebrooker> Friday is my aim
05:17:12 <pravins> nice, thanks again :)
05:17:32 <pravins> #action lukebrooker to publish Zanata survey summary post by Friday 18th Dec.
05:17:46 <pravins> #topic L10N and Zanata planning for Fedora 24
05:17:46 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/16
05:18:27 <pravins> going through https://docs.google.com/document/d/17LU-PmtuirbGd7wfxUuKTz7X6fsv82PVPgZaDELi4js/ again :)
05:19:36 <pravins> #info G11n Governance (Pravin)
05:19:44 <pravins> I will drop email to list, this week.
05:19:54 <pravins> #info L10n Sprints
05:21:17 <pravins> noriko: In Ambassador FAD people decided to do L10N sprint in Myanmar
05:21:25 <pravins> they asked me, if i can join.
05:21:40 <pravins> Do you think anyone from L10N can join same?
05:22:38 <noriko> pravins, what is the expectation?
05:23:03 <pravins> Teach participants how to localization for Fedora.
05:23:13 * noriko speaks only japanese and english
05:23:17 <pravins> As fas as i know, no any Wiki yet for it.
05:23:31 <pravins> we do have one local Ambassador there.
05:23:39 <noriko> there is the guide for translator.
05:23:46 <pravins> noriko: i will add you in cc for those emails.
05:23:50 <noriko> sure
05:24:02 <pravins> gnokii is attending same.
05:24:52 <pravins> #info Automation of langpack LiveCD (Parag)
05:25:12 <pravins> paragan: thanks for ticket https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/17
05:25:42 <pravins> Why every ticket is owned by me :(
05:26:27 <pravins> fixed :)
05:27:14 <pravins> As we decided to be more vocal on mailing list. Will try to initiate some email on list for these topics.
05:27:28 <pravins> #topic meeting time
05:27:37 <pravins> juhp: earlier requested for fixing time for this meeting.
05:28:32 <pravins> We used to have meeting each week. One for i18n and next week for l10n+zanata
05:29:02 <juhp> yeah well guess currently regular time is 30min earlier than today's meeting
05:29:30 <pravins> i18n starts At 06:00 UTC
05:29:41 <juhp> right
05:29:44 <pravins> and L10N+Zanata starts at 04:30 UTC
05:30:05 <pravins> most of the L10N and Zanata members are in BNE, so they like/prefer 04:30UTC i think
05:30:15 <pravins> thats how we started with initial meeting.
05:30:30 <juhp> okay
05:30:36 <juhp> that's fine then
05:30:48 <juhp> I might have confused the two times in my calendar
05:31:10 <juhp> somehow thought today's meeting was at the later time
05:31:10 <pravins> yeah, i saw confusion from other members as well :(
05:31:28 <pravins> How can we fix it?
05:31:31 <suanand> same with me
05:31:49 <pravins> suanand: yes
05:32:51 <pravins> lets bring this to mailing list :)
05:33:43 <juhp> maybe today's calendar time was wrong?
05:33:49 <juhp> okay
05:34:02 <pravins> juhp: yeah, i fixed it bit late.
05:34:10 <juhp> personally I am okay with the slots you mentioned above
05:34:16 <juhp> pravins, okay
05:34:28 <pravins> but frankly speaking, i give correct time in meeting reminder ;)
05:34:30 <juhp> so that was the main thrust of my request :)
05:34:43 <juhp> I only look in my calendar :)
05:34:48 <pravins> he he :)
05:35:10 <juhp> anyway looks good going forward
05:35:22 <pravins> still i am thinking to ask suitable time on list, since we get very few L10N and Zanata people.
05:35:26 <juhp> sure
05:35:31 <juhp> good point
05:35:38 <pravins> moving to last topic
05:35:40 <juhp> +1
05:35:52 <pravins> #topic Open Floor
05:36:02 <pravins> We will not have meeting for next two weeks
05:36:10 <pravins> 23rd Dec and 30th Dec
05:36:30 <pravins> Due to Christmas and New year holiday.
05:36:57 <pravins> If anyone still want to have some discussions during this time, feel free to ping on IRC or send email to g11n list.
05:37:19 <pravins> I will be available most of the time.
05:37:58 <pravins> #info No meeting on 23rd and 30th Dec. due to Christmas and New years celebrations.
05:38:19 <pravins> is there any other topic?
05:39:10 <pravins> if nothing else, lets close meeting in couple of minutes
05:41:35 <juhp> so next meeting is 13 Jan right?
05:41:50 <juhp> and 6th for i18n
05:42:04 * noriko note it down
05:42:36 <pravins> juggler: yeah 6th for i18n
05:42:49 <pravins> its juhp :)
05:43:18 <pravins> i will delete appointments from calendar.
05:43:38 <pravins> thanks all for nice meeting.
05:43:42 <noriko> same time?
05:43:56 <noriko> I mean L10N+Zanata starts at 04:30 UTC
05:43:58 <pravins> noriko: nope, 04:30UTC
05:44:08 <noriko> yp!
05:44:31 <pravins> #endmeeting g11n