06:00:42 <pravins> #startmeeting g11n
06:00:42 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Nov 25 06:00:42 2015 UTC.  The chair is pravins. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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06:00:49 <pravins> #meetingname g11n
06:00:49 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'g11n'
06:00:56 <pravins> #topic agenda and roll call
06:00:57 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-11-25
06:01:10 <pravins> who available for meeting today?
06:01:11 <suanand> Hi..
06:01:14 <mfabian> Hi!
06:01:17 <ueno> hi
06:01:17 <epico> hi
06:01:24 <pravins> hi suanand mfabian ueno epico :)
06:01:31 <pravins> #chair suanand mfabian ueno epico
06:01:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico mfabian pravins suanand ueno
06:01:54 <pravins> We might have bit longer meeting today. Its planning phase so good to spend more time.
06:02:11 <pravins> While other join lets go through schedule
06:02:18 <pravins> #topic Upcoming schedule
06:02:18 <pravins> #info 2016-01-12 	Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (System Wide Changes)
06:02:18 <pravins> #info not scheduled yet 	Side Tag Builds Deadline
06:02:18 <pravins> #info not required 	Mass Rebuild
06:02:18 <pravins> #info 2016-02-02 	Branch Fedora 24 from Rawhide (Rawhide becomes future F25)
06:02:19 <pravins> #info 2016-02-16 	Alpha Freeze (*)
06:02:21 <pravins> #info 2016-02-16 	Software String Freeze
06:02:23 <pravins> #info 2016-02-16 	Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable)
06:02:25 <pravins> #info 2016-02-16 	Bodhi activation point
06:02:26 <fujiwarat> hi
06:02:45 <pravins> hi fujiwarat :)
06:02:48 <pravins> #chair fujiwarat
06:02:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico fujiwarat mfabian pravins suanand ueno
06:03:02 <pravins> Still have good time for planning change proposals
06:03:46 <pravins> #topic Outstanding task
06:03:47 <pravins> #info #36: gnome redesign plans for control-center Region and Languages (anishpatil)
06:03:57 <pravins> anish_: any chance to get this complete during Fedora 24?
06:04:18 <pravins> At the most should disable XKB layouts, as planned earlier.
06:04:35 <anish_> aha i forgot about it
06:04:41 <anish_> i raised bug
06:04:57 <pravins> yeah, do we have patch ready?
06:04:59 <anish_> but forgot to give reference to our meeing
06:05:06 <anish_> not yet
06:06:20 <pravins> anish_: Bastien Nocera asked question, can you provide him some reference :)
06:06:33 <pravins> We have good content available on ticket and also i think on mailing list.
06:07:39 <anish_> yeah i will give references
06:07:40 <anish_> thanks
06:07:45 <paragan> hi
06:08:03 <pravins> hi paragan :)
06:08:06 <pravins> #chair paragan
06:08:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: epico fujiwarat mfabian paragan pravins suanand ueno
06:09:01 <pravins> #action anish_ to update bug report to disable xkb layouts for Indian language in gnome.
06:09:07 <pravins> #link https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756939
06:09:43 <pravins> #topic New topics
06:09:52 <pravins> #info #43: G11N FAD in 2015 (pravins)
06:09:52 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43
06:10:55 <pravins> paragan anish_ epico thank you for reports.
06:11:07 <anish_> thanks
06:11:27 <pravins> I want to gather all report on ticket and may be would like to summarize FAD event.
06:11:56 <pravins> https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43#comment:16
06:12:23 <pravins> Did i missed any reports there?
06:12:34 <pravins> i did not able to find juhp blog link
06:13:55 <pravins> #action All FAD attendees to upload report/summaries blog link on ticket #43
06:14:11 <pravins> #action pravins to ask all FAD attendees for summaries and reports.
06:14:31 <pravins> Expense claims
06:14:43 <pravins> any queries?
06:15:56 <pravins> anish_: i have moved your ticket to Ruth. Not sure, if she will still do it, i think someone else is doing it now.
06:16:21 <pravins> paragan: your expense claim done?
06:16:57 <paragan> almost done
06:17:15 <pravins> great, lets close the ticket once it is done :)
06:17:20 <paragan> once I receive the cash, I will close it
06:17:22 <paragan> sure
06:17:40 <pravins> #info paragan expense claim is almost done.
06:17:48 <anish_> pravins, thanks
06:17:58 <pravins> #info anish_ expense claim approved and moved to Ruth for reimbursement.
06:18:03 <pravins> mfabian: what about yours?
06:18:14 <pravins> epico: ?
06:18:17 <mfabian> I’ll finish it today.
06:18:39 * epico will contact finance today.
06:18:45 <pravins> #info mfabian will complete event reports and expense claim today.
06:18:59 <pravins> nice. thanks mfabian epico :)
06:19:40 <pravins> #info No report and expense claims from Ani and Noriko yet.
06:19:51 <pravins> anything more on FAD?
06:20:37 <pravins> #action pravins to work on Collaborating summary post on G11N Fedora activities day.
06:21:16 <pravins> moving to next topic
06:21:17 <pravins> #info #57: Fedora 24 change planing (pravins)
06:21:21 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/57
06:21:36 <pravins> Change proposal deadline is 12th Jan 2016.
06:21:46 <pravins> last week we discussed 2 ideas.
06:22:13 <pravins> #idea String Breakage monitoring (Jens, Akira)
06:22:19 <pravins> juhp: tagoh___ ^^
06:22:45 <pravins> looks both away today, we can skip for next meeting.
06:22:52 <pravins> I think best way to discuss on mailing list.
06:23:10 <pravins> #idea Merge IBus fbterm into ibus core (Fujiwara)
06:23:24 <pravins> #info Confusion should it be merged into IBus or simply fork since not active upstream.
06:23:31 <pravins> fujiwarat: any further discussion on this?
06:25:32 <pravins> mfabian: one pending from Fedora 23 is glibc locale subpackaging.
06:25:37 <pravins> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Glibc_locale_subpackaging
06:25:51 <fujiwarat> No at the moment. Probably I should set the dead line for that development.
06:26:09 <pravins> yeah, fujiwarat should i add action item for you.
06:26:22 <pravins> i think good to discuss this on mailing list, since it provides more visibility.
06:28:11 <pravins> #action fujiwarat to set deadline for "Merge IBus fbterm into ibus core"
06:28:25 <fujiwarat> The plan is, remove the dependencies from fbterm, based on gobject, call from ibus command, use Super+space, call loadkeys internally.
06:28:33 * pravins adding more action items, since i forgetting few things and need to go through log again :(
06:29:39 <pravins> one things not clear is...are we planning to merge or fork upstream.
06:31:53 <pravins> last time we went through only few ideas discussed in FAD
06:32:01 <pravins> lets go through remaining one.
06:32:04 <pravins> #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/17LU-PmtuirbGd7wfxUuKTz7X6fsv82PVPgZaDELi4js/edit#
06:32:29 <pravins> #idea ibus-typing-booster: AltGr support (mfabian)
06:32:39 <pravins> #idea Pinyin/zhuyin (epico)
06:32:58 <pravins> Automation of langpack LiveCD ( paragan )
06:33:17 <pravins> #idea Automation of langpack LiveCD ( paragan )
06:33:21 <pravins> #idea PoC of NextGen G11n workflow (Jens/Zanata?)
06:33:46 <pravins> #idea ITS for Gnome ( ueno )
06:34:12 <pravins> sorry not clear on what it ITS for gnome
06:36:18 <ueno> maybe it was meant to file bugs to some gnome components (e.g. gtk) to ship *.its file https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2015-October/msg00013.html
06:37:15 <pravins> aha, thanks you :)
06:37:28 <pravins> #link https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2015-October/msg00013.html
06:37:51 <pravins> #idea Automatic testing ( tagoh___)
06:38:07 <pravins> #idea Description support of the configuration in fontconfig ( tagoh___)
06:38:27 <pravins> paragan: are you planning for change proposal for LangPack LiveCD?
06:39:11 <pravins> not sure, whether it will be change proposal or not. But good to have some Wiki with information what we are planning to do and what are the present problems.
06:40:42 <paragan> its not change proposal
06:40:42 <pravins> paragan: may be lets create ticket and work on it? It will help to track this development.
06:40:50 <paragan> okay
06:41:10 <pravins> +1 yeah, we are not changing anything.
06:41:43 <pravins> #action paragan to create ticket for  Automation of langpack LiveCD for better tracking status.
06:43:05 <pravins> I will drop email on i18n list with all ideas not discussed today.
06:43:20 <pravins> #action pravins to drop email on i18n list with all missed idea for F24.
06:43:59 <pravins> anything we missed for Fedora 24 planning?
06:45:25 <pravins> moving to next item
06:45:33 <pravins> #info #58: Prioritizing bugs for Fedora 24 release (pravins)
06:45:34 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/58
06:46:09 <pravins> We have discussed idea in last week.
06:47:22 <pravins> #info All open bugs are available on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-11-25
06:47:30 <pravins> We can select some from there.
06:48:23 <pravins> #info Rawhide bugs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?v4=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.org&o5=substring&f1=OP&o3=substring&list_id=578982&v3=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.org&o2=substring&f4=reporter&v5=i18n&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=cc&f2=assigned_to&o4=substring&bug_status=__open__&version=rawhide&f5=keywords&f6=CP&v2=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.org&product=Fedora
06:49:04 <pravins> #info Fedora 23 bugs https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?v4=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.org&o5=substring&f1=OP&o3=substring&v3=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.org&o2=substring&f4=reporter&v5=i18n&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=cc&f2=assigned_to&o4=substring&bug_status=__open__&version=23&f5=keywords&f6=CP&v2=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.org&product=Fedora
06:49:13 <pravins> #info https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?v4=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.org&o5=substring&f1=OP&o3=substring&v3=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.org&o2=substring&f4=reporter&v5=i18n&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=cc&f2=assigned_to&o4=substring&bug_status=__open__&version=22&f5=keywords&f6=CP&v2=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.org&product=Fedora
06:50:21 <pravins> need help from everyone to select few bugs for Fedora 24.
06:50:49 <pravins> #action Everyone to select few bugs from Bug list for Fedora 24 development cycle.
06:51:33 <pravins> let me know if any comments feedback for this.
06:53:00 <pravins> May be we should create Wiki and list all open bugs there? and remove we are not going to fix or add only one we are going to fix.
06:53:43 <pravins> #action pravins to create Wiki for listing bugs for Fedora 24.
06:53:49 <pravins> moving to next topic.
06:53:59 <pravins> #info #56: Fedora 21 EOL Bugs traiging (pravins )
06:53:59 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/56
06:54:44 <pravins> Still 30 bugs open for Fedora 21
06:54:47 <pravins> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&f1=OP&f2=assigned_to&f3=cc&f4=reporter&f5=keywords&f6=CP&j1=OR&list_id=4233591&o2=substring&o3=substring&o4=substring&o5=substring&product=Fedora&query_format=advanced&v2=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.org&v3=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.org&v4=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.org&v5=i18n&version=21
06:56:22 <pravins> paragan: mfabian ueno epico tagoh___ i see few your bugs are still open.
06:56:56 <pravins> mine also one bug pending.
06:58:43 <mfabian> Moved bug#1133127 to F23.
06:59:03 <pravins> thanks mfabian :)
06:59:19 <pravins> I think only 3 more days remaining for moving/testing bugs
06:59:48 <pravins> May be Dec 2.
07:00:19 * pravins will test and triage #648350 later.
07:00:34 <pravins> #action pravins to drop email on i18n list with open bugs
07:01:13 <pravins> #action paragan ueno epico tagoh___ to triage open bugs for Fedora 21.
07:01:37 <pravins> moving to last topic
07:01:38 <pravins> #info #15: Questions on Translation work flow for Fedora Website
07:01:38 <pravins> #link https://fedorahosted.org/g11n/ticket/15
07:01:50 <pravins> This is issue from localization side.
07:02:20 <pravins> Things are not very clear regarding deadlines/schedule of Fedora Website and L10N process.
07:02:36 <pravins> unfortunately no Noriko and Alex in today meeting.
07:02:48 <pravins> Anyone know whom else should we contact for more information.
07:02:53 <pravins> ?
07:03:46 <pravins> Lets try to work more on this in mailing list. I can drop email with this ticket.
07:04:06 <pravins> or someone else.
07:04:23 <pravins> Will try to finish this ticket by next meeting.
07:04:39 <pravins> #action resolved "Questions on Translation work flow for Fedora Website" by Next week G11N meeting.
07:04:45 <pravins> #undo
07:04:45 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by pravins at 07:04:39 : resolved "Questions on Translation work flow for Fedora Website" by Next week G11N meeting.
07:04:51 <pravins> #action resolve "Questions on Translation work flow for Fedora Website" by Next week G11N meeting.
07:05:01 <pravins> moving to last topic
07:05:02 <pravins> #topic Open Floor
07:05:15 <pravins> if nothing here will close in couple of minutes..
07:08:54 <pravins> We have number of action items from todays meeting. Lets try to complete it either by discussion on mailing list or on IRC.
07:09:03 <pravins> Thanks everyone for meeting :)
07:09:04 <pravins> #endmeeting