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01:02:00 <award3535> #meetingname FAmNA
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01:02:12 <award3535> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call ===
01:02:19 <cydrobolt> hello award3535
01:02:20 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
01:02:21 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <me@justinwflory.com>
01:02:23 * linuxmodder brb award3535  soda  run (fridge)
01:02:26 <wrnash> Hi there
01:02:29 <award3535> #chair
01:02:29 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535
01:02:31 <cydrobolt> hello all
01:02:52 <award3535> #chair cydrobolt wrnash linuxmodder
01:02:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt linuxmodder wrnash
01:03:00 <juggler> o/ hello
01:03:06 <jflory7> Evening all!
01:03:08 <award3535> evening all
01:03:08 * kk4ewt 
01:03:18 <award3535> #chair kkk4ewt
01:03:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt kkk4ewt linuxmodder wrnash
01:03:37 <juggler> evening all
01:03:45 <award3535> jflory7 you are new I presume wanting sponsor
01:04:22 <jflory7> I've been idling for the past two weeks for the Ambassador meetings, but thought I would speak up this time. :)
01:05:04 <award3535> jfory7 you are on my radar now
01:05:23 <award3535> #topic === Announcements ===
01:05:38 <award3535> F23 no go last email
01:07:26 <linuxmodder> was 3 blockers that I caught in between peeks in on mtg
01:07:30 * danofsatx is heah
01:07:42 <linuxmodder> heah ?   sleepy  much?
01:07:43 <award3535> #chair danofsatx
01:07:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt danofsatx kkk4ewt linuxmodder wrnash
01:07:44 <juggler> hey danof
01:08:18 <award3535> any other announcements
01:08:31 <award3535> did everyone see mattdm email
01:08:58 <wrnash> Yes i read it
01:08:59 <linuxmodder> not sure been swimming in email
01:09:06 <linuxmodder> topic was
01:09:08 <linuxmodder> ?
01:09:09 <jflory7> About his marketing training?
01:09:19 <juggler> <--did not see
01:09:43 <award3535> any thoughts on what was included?
01:09:55 <award3535> yes the marketing training
01:10:02 <jflory7> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/council-discuss/2015-October/013788.html
01:10:22 <linuxmodder> not seeing it
01:10:30 <award3535> yep thats the link
01:10:43 <award3535> linuxmodder check the link
01:10:55 * linuxmodder checking now
01:11:36 <juggler> thanks jflory7 for hte link
01:11:39 <award3535> while your reading I am going to move on to tickets
01:11:56 <jflory7> No problem.
01:12:00 <award3535> #topic === Tickets ===
01:12:11 <award3535> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9
01:12:26 <award3535> .famnaticket 114
01:12:27 <zodbot> award3535: #114 (LISA 2015) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/114
01:13:31 * danofsatx read matt's mail, want's a job w/ Red Hat to manage the top-left quadrant
01:13:32 <award3535> to clear up the confusion, the only budget we need to approve is linuxmodder's travel which will be about $50 in fuel costs, he will be working with mattdm and the RH shared booth
01:13:35 <linuxmodder> mattdm,  you able to update your travel bits on the ticket?
01:13:54 <linuxmodder> if any that is?
01:14:09 <jsandys> jsandys will join after driving
01:14:11 <award3535> linuxmodder he will be using RH funds
01:14:30 <linuxmodder> ah then yes that is all I'm aware of  I'm local
01:14:46 <linuxmodder> local as in < 50 miles away
01:15:18 <award3535> so I will ask for a budget of $75.00 to cover fuel costs for linuxmodder
01:15:59 <kk4ewt> 50 i think is plenty
01:16:21 <kk4ewt> that covers a tank of gas
01:16:36 <award3535> ok, then lets vote on $50
01:16:41 <award3535> +1
01:16:43 <kk4ewt> +1
01:16:46 <danofsatx> +1
01:16:47 <wrnash> is it 50 or 75
01:16:53 <juggler> wr 50
01:16:58 <wrnash> +1 for 50
01:17:02 <juggler> +1 for 50
01:17:05 <linuxmodder> I only asked for $50
01:17:51 <award3535> #agreed $50 in travel expenses for linuxmodder, award3535 to update ticket
01:17:54 <linuxmodder> mattdm,  if you need parking help hit me up before then I still know the parking folks
01:18:40 <linuxmodder> or anyone else   coming in last minute
01:19:08 <linuxmodder> I'll tag up with kk4ewt  for the drop ship to you award3535  for next event
01:19:47 <kk4ewt> mattdm,  i need info about shipping from mattdm i haave asked ? on the ticket but i havent seen anything
01:20:11 <award3535> linuxmodder thank you, I will need the box before friday the 20th of November
01:20:21 <linuxmodder> I'll try reaching the event folks if you havent heard by monday kk4ewt
01:20:51 <linuxmodder> I'll make sure its off to you right after event like we did from fosscon
01:22:27 <award3535> linuxmodder roger....
01:23:30 <award3535> #topic == Open Floor ===
01:23:47 <award3535> okay the floor is open, ticket 114 updated
01:24:19 <award3535> linuxmodder you may want to hit nb up for some swag, put a ticket in as well and select central
01:24:31 <kk4ewt> ok i am working with a local place for people to order ambassador polos
01:24:51 <kk4ewt> award3535,  swag from nb is coming to me then i will send to you and linuxmodder
01:25:11 <award3535> cool, thank you
01:26:00 <wrnash> Would it be nice to get a Ambassador polo once someone is approved to be an ambassador.  like a little welcome gift
01:26:02 <juggler> thanks kk4
01:26:10 <kk4ewt> award3535,  ship to you or drop ship to the event
01:26:23 <wrnash> might get a couple people to join and promote Fedora.
01:26:31 <kk4ewt> wrnash,  not going to happen with the way the budget is
01:26:37 <award3535> ship to me got plenty of room in the car
01:26:57 <wrnash> I know but it would be nice
01:27:23 <linuxmodder> wrnash,  so would a million $$ lol
01:27:25 <kk4ewt> but at least we will have a way for people to order and get them again
01:27:40 <juggler> i'm considering heading out to SCaLE 14x this year...anyone else planning to go?
01:27:46 <juggler> er next year i mean
01:27:56 <linuxmodder> juggler,  dates again ?
01:28:11 <juggler> one moment ... talk amongst yourselves :)
01:28:24 <kk4ewt> i was there for scale 8
01:28:34 <juggler> January 21-24, 2016
01:28:39 <kk4ewt> and i understand they are moving this year
01:28:47 <juggler> yep, Pasadena...new venue
01:29:16 <linuxmodder> I am working with a non profit org locally in DC  dealing with kids and mostly  win / linux boxes seen a decent interest in my setup from the admins might be  something in a few months
01:29:32 <linuxmodder> for kids likely a  soas  modification
01:30:02 <linuxmodder> possible juggler
01:30:26 <linuxmodder> the next week is  tight schedule but any  excuse to visit fam is  good enough to try
01:30:44 <juggler> linuxmodder perhaps take the free code.org class...it might mesh nicely with your nonprofit interests :)
01:31:00 <jflory7> linuxmodder: I know the FOSS minor here at the Rochester Institute of Technology do a lot of work with SoaS. What are you wanting to do with it?
01:31:11 <linuxmodder> noted ...will check this weekend
01:31:31 <juggler> linuxmodder : https://code.org/professional-development-workshops
01:31:58 <juggler> it's free and swag-filled too :D
01:32:08 <juggler> highly useful
01:32:15 <linuxmodder> for our  younger kids (3-8th grades)  likely  a more  sdr leaning version   form what I'm hearing
01:32:31 <linuxmodder> kk juggler  thanks
01:32:57 <juggler> linuxmodder yw
01:33:53 <juggler> well all, i will need to bug out for a commute to another meeting. it is good seeing all of you again.
01:33:54 <linuxmodder> jflory7,  see if  cydrobolt  is  game he does a decent amount of stuff up that way
01:34:06 <juggler> take care
01:34:11 <linuxmodder> mit rit penn state the like
01:34:33 <linuxmodder> catch you around juggler
01:35:35 <linuxmodder> jflory7,  soas is nice for netbooks too which is  a  large part of the devices the org has
01:35:46 <jflory7> linuxmodder: I'm currently a student at RIT - the FOSS minor does a lot of stuff with SoaS, so if something is planned on being done with it, there might be a decent amount of students who might be interested in helping with that as a project of sorts.
01:36:25 <linuxmodder> jflory7,  noted email me  after mtg might have idea for them
01:36:35 <linuxmodder> unrelated project
01:36:38 <jflory7> I don't know the full details, but I can definitely get more. What's your email?
01:36:50 <linuxmodder> .fas corey84
01:36:51 <zodbot> linuxmodder: corey84 'Corey Sheldon' <sheldon.corey@gmail.com>
01:36:54 <linuxmodder> ^^
01:37:09 <jflory7> Thanks, will get that out!
01:38:45 <linuxmodder> nb, evenign'
01:38:50 <nb> hi
01:39:00 * nb wishes he had more time
01:39:04 <nb> oh, we are having meeting now?
01:39:09 <award3535> #chair nb
01:39:09 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt danofsatx kkk4ewt linuxmodder nb wrnash
01:39:18 <award3535> evening nb
01:39:34 <award3535> how is the new job
01:39:36 * masta looks in
01:39:38 <masta> howdy all
01:39:44 <award3535> #chair masta
01:39:44 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 cydrobolt danofsatx kkk4ewt linuxmodder masta nb wrnash
01:39:49 <award3535> evening masta
01:39:57 <award3535> we are in open floor
01:40:20 <award3535> only one ticket 114 funding approved for linuxmodder fuel expenses
01:40:23 <masta> award3535: did Matt communicate his hotel stuff?
01:40:33 <award3535> masta no need
01:40:36 <masta> ok
01:40:39 <linuxmodder> not that I know of
01:40:41 <award3535> he is using RH funds
01:40:48 <masta> perfect
01:41:05 <award3535> he emailed me earlier this week and let me know
01:41:31 <award3535> we are sharing the booth with RH, linuxmodder and mattdm representing Fedora
01:42:12 <award3535> so the only Fedora funds we are using is for linuxmodder in fuel expenses
01:42:29 <linuxmodder> being local only worried about fuel
01:43:42 <nb> so, media
01:43:46 <nb> what do we want to order for f23?
01:43:52 * nb is behind on the process
01:44:01 <nb> but it usually doesn't take long to get the quote and get the PO made
01:44:07 <award3535> F23 no go
01:44:24 <award3535> pushed to next week
01:44:26 <nb> award3535, yeah, but i still need to get the PO made to order media
01:44:35 <nb> would like to get an idea tonight of how much media we want to order
01:44:52 <nb> we have been ordering 5k, but odd number releases seem to not get given out that much
01:44:55 <nb> since there are less releases
01:44:57 <nb> kk4ewt, ping
01:44:57 <zodbot> nb: Ping with data, please: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_naked_pings
01:45:11 <jsandys> Usb drivers for media?
01:45:38 <kk4ewt> less events
01:45:54 <award3535> I agree but what events are in the winter/spring that we need, scale, LFNW?
01:45:54 <jflory7> USB drives are pretty pricy too - that discussion came up at Flock
01:46:24 <kk4ewt> jsandys,  if you can find us branded usbkeys for $2 with images on them we can look at it
01:46:32 <masta> we do them for RH summit, and I'm sure there is a big box of them left over.
01:46:33 <nb> kk4ewt, yes, less events i meant to say, sorry
01:46:46 <nb> masta, they were used for other stuff IIRC
01:46:50 <nb> sometimes we get the leftovers
01:46:57 <kk4ewt> nb where is the point of price break
01:46:59 <nb> but this year someone else used them
01:47:02 <nb> kk4ewt, not sure
01:47:15 * nb wanted to check other vendors but -ELACKOFTIME
01:47:20 <kk4ewt> 4K is what i think
01:47:32 <nb> that's what i was thinking
01:47:47 <kk4ewt> or 3 K
01:48:01 <kk4ewt> you me and brain
01:48:07 <kk4ewt> brian
01:48:13 <award3535> 3K I think is good until the next release
01:48:29 <linuxmodder> can look at vendors for printed keys
01:48:36 * nb proposes we order 3k media, as long as price is similar to before, about $1.20 or so each
01:48:47 <kk4ewt> linuxmodder,  i have $10 each
01:48:58 <nb> I want to look at other vendors since price seems to be expensive
01:49:06 <linuxmodder> that is pricey in bulk
01:49:28 <kk4ewt> nb is that dvds or dsdvd?
01:49:32 <nb> dvd
01:49:41 <linuxmodder> we are only worried about desktop isos on them right?  so 2-4g  size
01:49:45 <kk4ewt> yeah i think we can do better
01:49:59 <nb> I do too, but not sure that we can do better for f23
01:50:12 <kk4ewt> nb get busy :)
01:50:14 <nb> getting new vendor added takes a while
01:50:46 <kk4ewt> go with the current vendor now and get busy for f24
01:50:52 <nb> yeah
01:51:00 <award3535> that sounds like a plan
01:51:06 * linuxmodder will look for 24 as well
01:51:11 <kk4ewt> thats all we can do at this point
01:51:16 * nb proposes 3k media, cost of approximately $3,600
01:51:22 <award3535> +1
01:51:26 <linuxmodder> +1
01:51:27 <nb> might be a little more because of less quantity
01:51:32 <wrnash> +1
01:51:43 <kk4ewt> up it to 4K to cover shipping
01:51:47 <nb> yeah
01:51:57 <nb> +1
01:52:00 <award3535> ok 4K +1
01:52:03 <linuxmodder> +1 for up to 4k
01:52:08 <kk4ewt> shouldnt be that high but
01:52:11 <kk4ewt> +1
01:52:15 <wrnash> +1
01:52:19 <jsandys> +1
01:52:35 <kk4ewt> nb, also when you get the PO please get the amount and po # to award3535  please
01:52:44 <award3535> #agreed 4K for F23 Media production
01:53:50 * nb sent an email asking for a quote
01:53:54 <danofsatx> +1
01:53:58 <nb> i will let award3535 know
01:54:03 * danofsatx is lagging
01:54:08 <nb> although i don't get po number a lot of times, depending on if ruth sends it to me
01:54:16 <nb> but i can give him the po amount that i request
01:54:39 <nb> s/a alot of/some/
01:54:42 <award3535> that is one thing we need to get better at, since I am to run the budget, I need expenditures
01:54:58 <nb> award3535, yeah, i can get you the amount, just i don't always get the po number
01:55:10 * nb will let you know when i get a formal quote from ISS
01:55:22 <award3535> amount is all I need
01:55:50 <kk4ewt> well if you have the PO at least you can go back and say what was PO #
01:55:52 <award3535> we as ambassadors dont do a good job (speaking as a whole) in getting this area correct
01:56:26 <kk4ewt> nb,  and we need to report to award3535  amounts when we ship as well
01:56:34 <nb> oh
01:56:45 * nb thinks we should add him to the ups account so he can get invoices also
01:56:53 <linuxmodder> makes reconciling much easier
01:57:09 <kk4ewt> nb and did you ever add paradoxguitarist
01:57:10 <award3535> every event on the west coast was never properly closed out, so I have no accurate number or ambassador expenses
01:57:55 <linuxmodder> ouch every one?
01:58:20 <jsandys> Closed out?
01:58:53 <award3535> but that is another topic we will need to breach very soon, linuxmodder kk4ewt does get expenses to me
01:59:47 <linuxmodder> jsandys,  event reports and the like
02:00:26 <kk4ewt> jsandys,  we all are bad about not finishing the event page with the actual expenses wither
02:00:32 <award3535> jsandys closed out is when all the reports from attending ambassadors and final expense updated on the wiki page
02:00:38 <nb> then why do we give them money?
02:00:49 <nb> start not giving them reimbursement until they give their report
02:00:55 <award3535> that is what ruth and I are talking about
02:01:12 <award3535> trying to come up with a way to get the information
02:01:24 <linuxmodder> nb's idea makes sense
02:01:29 <kk4ewt> nb kinda hard if the hotel room gets paid by someone with a redhat CC
02:01:54 <award3535> she even went as far as within 14days if requirments werent met she doesnt pay
02:02:17 <award3535> kk4ewt is correct I never get those expenses when RH pays on site
02:02:23 <linuxmodder> even with rapid fire events that seem reasonable
02:02:45 <jflory7> (linuxmodder: Just shot you that email by the way)
02:02:52 <linuxmodder> kk
02:03:15 <kk4ewt> and its not like if its how room we can get a copy of the bill and report
02:03:21 <kk4ewt> our
02:03:26 <award3535> I will create a ticket for next weeks meeting to come up with ideas for delivery of budget items
02:03:47 <jsandys> Why aren't all payments done with tickets. I thoight I read where we shouldn't have financials on the wiki.
02:04:21 <kk4ewt> jsandys,  why shouldnt we
02:04:22 <award3535> jsandys, when RH pays the bill on site for hotels there is no ticket created
02:04:42 <award3535> that is the problem,
02:05:02 <award3535> there is no ticket for reimbursement
02:05:08 <kk4ewt> we should publish what we budget and what the final expenses are
02:06:00 <award3535> I think this is a good discussion for next weeks meeting, I will create the ticket and we will go indepth then
02:06:02 <kk4ewt> if someone wants to not put on the amount the where reembursted that can be retitiled as rooms for all
02:06:05 <danofsatx> I gotta go, folks. 5 minutes past when I was supposed to be out of the lab.
02:06:33 <award3535> yes me as well got to be somewhere in about 10 minutes
02:06:43 <kk4ewt> me too bed
02:06:53 <award3535> again I will create a ticket and we will discuss this next week
02:07:22 <award3535> everyone have a good evening, I will see you all at next weeks meeting on the 29th of October
02:07:30 <jflory7> Sounds good, same to you, award3535!
02:07:31 <award3535> #endmeeting