01:00:03 <award3535> #startmeeting FAmNA
01:00:03 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri May 29 01:00:03 2015 UTC.  The chair is award3535. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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01:00:11 <award3535> #meetingname FAmNA
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01:00:28 <award3535> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call ===
01:01:06 <award3535> anyone here yet
01:01:06 <ParadoxGuitarist> Hey all
01:01:21 <ParadoxGuitarist> I'm on my phone.
01:01:23 <award3535> chair ParadoxGuitarist
01:01:37 <award3535> #chair ParadoxGuitarist
01:01:37 <zodbot> Current chairs: ParadoxGuitarist award3535
01:01:48 <award3535> boy Im with it tonight
01:02:00 <ParadoxGuitarist> Have to go on a walk with my prego wife
01:02:33 <award3535> hmm, I am all done having children, 4 and the youngest is 25
01:02:46 <award3535> all moved out and empty
01:03:05 <ParadoxGuitarist> Nice. We're expecting our first
01:03:15 <award3535> BTY Track is down
01:03:34 <award3535> BTW that is
01:03:49 <award3535> congrats on having the first
01:04:04 <award3535> but its no fun with only one
01:04:06 <ParadoxGuitarist> Thanks
01:04:48 <ParadoxGuitarist> Thanks haha I'll keep that in mind. He won't be too far away in age from my godson
01:05:13 <award3535> like I said its no fun with only one
01:05:50 <ParadoxGuitarist> So... I went looking at USB drives
01:05:50 <award3535> we will give it a few more minutes to see if any one else shows up
01:06:01 <ParadoxGuitarist> ok
01:06:46 <award3535> #topic === Announcements ===
01:07:16 <award3535> I have been looking into the USB ticket, found a few other questions we need to ask
01:08:25 * masta looks in
01:08:31 <masta> howdy folks
01:08:33 <award3535> evening masta
01:08:40 <award3535> #chair masta
01:08:40 <zodbot> Current chairs: ParadoxGuitarist award3535 masta
01:09:21 <masta> nb: hey, I got the Central box.
01:09:29 <masta> for the record ^^
01:09:30 <award3535> I have no announcements
01:09:33 <nb> hi
01:09:35 <award3535> cool
01:09:41 <award3535> #chair nb
01:09:41 <zodbot> Current chairs: ParadoxGuitarist award3535 masta nb
01:09:41 <nb> masta, can you ship to me?
01:10:13 <award3535> evening nb
01:10:18 <nb> hi all
01:10:28 <masta> nb: yep, but I'll need it again in August. I'll ship to you in the morning if we can get a label.
01:10:54 <award3535> masta, dont worry about T shirts for August I will be bringing them with me
01:11:16 <masta> award3535: yeah, I figure d you would be. =)
01:11:35 <nb> masta, pm me a from address
01:11:36 <ParadoxGuitarist> Only found one place that prloads data. The cost goes up by data size.
01:11:40 <nb> please
01:11:47 <masta> nb: I'm glad to get rid of it, it's been in my garage nearly 10 months.
01:12:04 * nb has a quote for media and would like to get it approved tonight
01:12:09 <nb> we are hoping to have some done before SELF
01:12:19 <nb> although I plan to look for new quotes before F23
01:12:29 <nb> seems like we could get it cheaper, although getting new vendors added is hell
01:12:41 <nb> $6,000 for 5,000 DVDs
01:12:56 <award3535> we are currently looking into the usb arena as well
01:13:14 <award3535> #topic === Tickets ===
01:13:24 <nb> yeah, good idea, but we need to stick with DVD for F22 at least
01:13:26 <nb> since it's already out
01:13:54 <award3535> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9
01:14:08 <award3535> .famnaticket 106
01:14:09 <zodbot> award3535: #106 (Replacing DVD media with USB key for event distribution) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/106
01:14:19 <award3535> trac is down right now
01:14:40 <award3535> but I agree with nb we need to go with media now for f22
01:15:03 <award3535> nb your up
01:15:28 <nb> Quote is $6,000 for 5,000 DVDs, same vendor as before
01:15:36 <ParadoxGuitarist> nb I agree I just think its a waste since we can't reuse them they go bad after 6 months and fewer and fewer computers come with CD drives
01:15:54 <nb> I thin it would be nice to switch to USB, possibly starting with next release
01:15:59 <nb> but not enough time for F22
01:16:07 <Cydrobolt> hello
01:16:17 * Cydrobolt is here, but is busy with another important task
01:16:18 <award3535> #chair Cydrobolt
01:16:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: Cydrobolt ParadoxGuitarist award3535 masta nb
01:17:00 <award3535> +1 for DVD media F22 release 6K for 5K of media
01:17:48 <award3535> we need two more vots
01:17:50 <award3535> votes
01:17:57 <nb> +1
01:18:17 <nb> masta will be back in a few minutes, went to take the central event box to his vehicle
01:18:26 * masta is back
01:19:00 <award3535> still need one more vote
01:19:14 * masta is +1 5k piece media at $6k USD
01:19:45 <ParadoxGuitarist> +1
01:19:56 <award3535> #agreed $6,000.00 for 5K of media F22
01:19:59 <ParadoxGuitarist> sorry. Walking.
01:20:06 <masta> actually I'm +1 at $6k plus/minus a few hundred USD, understanding it's approximate
01:21:01 <award3535> ParadoxGuitarist I believe that we could actually move to usb for F23
01:21:06 <masta> So Southern_Gentlem has generated the ISO, or do we still need that done?
01:21:20 <nb> which iso?
01:21:24 <nb> we use the official iso?
01:21:59 <masta> oh I thought he generated the multidesktop media himself
01:22:14 <ParadoxGuitarist> It might be nice to get a request  to update USB-creator to do more than one at a time
01:22:37 <award3535> I have looked into several companies and still looking at more
01:22:51 <nb> award3535, what kind of pricing are you getting?
01:23:20 <award3535> nb, anywhere from 3.16 to 3.69 for more than 500 at a time
01:23:36 <masta> ParadoxGuitarist: things have advanced since.... there is a new tool to do parallel plexed writes to massive usb hubs with a bunch of thumb drives.
01:23:38 <award3535> the lowest I found was 2.79
01:23:52 <satellit_e> https://github.com/spotrh/multiboot-media-creator   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Multi_Boot_Media_SOP  I just built 3
01:24:10 <masta> yeah, that
01:24:11 <ParadoxGuitarist> I only found one with predataload and it was around $6
01:24:20 <masta> satellit_e++
01:24:44 <ParadoxGuitarist> for how big Andrew?
01:24:59 <masta> it's an activity an ambassador can do at the table
01:25:02 <award3535> so the next question would be if we bought them  and loaded them ourselves at events
01:25:18 <award3535> ParadoxGuitartist they were 2GB
01:25:23 <satellit_e> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_21#MultiWriter  works for me
01:26:06 * satellit_e f21 and f22
01:26:12 <ParadoxGuitarist> Ah. I was only looking at 8gb
01:26:45 <award3535> the smallest was 1GB not large enough though
01:26:56 <ParadoxGuitarist> Yeah
01:27:36 <ParadoxGuitarist> I would also check spin sizes and make sure they all fit.
01:27:59 * nb has one more proposal
01:28:11 <nb> SELF2015.  We might have media, we might not.  Depending on when they get done
01:28:25 * nb would like approval to spend, IDK, $200 or so on media
01:28:34 <nb> (media as in DVD+R and sleeves)
01:28:46 <nb> if we need to
01:29:02 <award3535> nb I think there is enough room in the budget proposal to do such
01:29:13 <nb> yeah, i just want a +1 from FAmNA
01:29:17 <award3535> +1
01:29:36 <award3535> and make sure we list that in the ticket when trac comes back up
01:29:54 <masta> +1
01:30:35 <award3535> need one more vote
01:30:57 * nb abstains since it was his request
01:31:07 <nb> ParadoxGuitarist, satellit_e Cydrobolt
01:31:10 <award3535> ParadoxGuitarist?
01:31:17 <Cydrobolt> Hi nb
01:31:20 * Cydrobolt reads
01:31:23 <ParadoxGuitarist> +1
01:31:25 <Cydrobolt> +1
01:31:42 <nb> thanks
01:32:09 <nb> #agreed nb might spend money ~$200 or so on DVD+R, etc for SELF if pressed media is not available in time
01:32:29 <award3535> thanks nb was typing it
01:32:51 <award3535> your approved budget has enough room in it anyway
01:32:54 <nb> yeah
01:33:22 <award3535> #topic == Open Floor ===
01:33:33 <nb> So, who is planning on going to Flock?
01:33:49 * nb just received notification that my "FAmNA Brainstorming" workshop was accepted
01:33:53 * nb would like to have people come to it :)
01:34:01 <award3535> where and when, havent seen it yet
01:34:22 <nb> i got an email from rsuehle
01:34:29 * nb doesn't think the list of sessions has been announced yet
01:34:32 <nb> but they emailed the speakers
01:34:41 <nb> or do you mean when and where is flock?
01:34:41 <masta> nb: I'd like to go to flock but haven't even registered yet
01:34:48 <nb> it's in August in Rochester, NY
01:35:11 <award3535> August I am in Texas
01:35:56 <satellit> here is link to fedora Mult-Boot fyi http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/releases/22/Multi/
01:35:59 <ParadoxGuitarist> August is the worst time of the year for me work wise. school is just starting up.
01:36:02 <nb> ug 12-15 it looks like
01:36:29 <nb> so we have a multiboot iso for f22.  interesting
01:36:30 <award3535> that is the week before TXLF
01:36:35 * nb did not know we were going to make any anymore
01:37:59 <masta> yeah
01:38:07 <masta> I didn't think we were either
01:38:32 <ParadoxGuitarist> How big is it?
01:39:19 <award3535> so that leads into the question I had before should we be creating usb media at events and giving out usb drives and making local DVDs for those who request it
01:39:25 <satellit> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/thumb/7/78/Multi-Desktop.JPG/750px-Multi-Desktop.JPG
01:39:33 <satellit> shown main menu
01:39:43 <award3535> seems like that is what the Ubuntu guys did in Fossetcon last year
01:41:04 <masta> We tend to have left over Fedora USBs after RH summit
01:41:14 <masta> like giant boxes of them
01:41:40 <award3535> So we could load them with the latest release as well at events
01:41:41 <masta> so perhaps if we ask spot for left overs
01:41:47 <nb> there is no gnome/workstation on that iso?
01:41:47 <ParadoxGuitarist> I would say before events would be best
01:42:22 <masta> we should probably buy three large USB hubs for the event boxen.
01:42:30 <masta> to serve as multi-writers
01:42:31 <award3535> before events is perfered
01:43:03 <award3535> and yes a large usb hub would also help
01:43:38 <ParadoxGuitarist> There's enough mayhem at events to forgo adding imaging USB drives at the table or in the booths
01:44:28 <award3535> but I like masta's idea, ask spot for the left overs and get them distributed to us for imaging preparing for events
01:44:39 <masta> ParadoxGuitarist: oh contrary... it's a table magnet. The activity looks interesting and draws attention.
01:44:59 <masta> but it's usually better to have two booth workers
01:45:12 <award3535> yes two booth workers is best
01:45:37 * ParadoxGuitarist has always been swamped at booth work. Probably because he was doing music demos.
01:45:38 <award3535> masta we could try this at TXLF if you wish
01:46:10 <masta> award3535: that's what I always do, fyi... I have always setup a usb write station at events (and past txlf's)
01:46:20 <award3535> as a test platform
01:46:34 <ParadoxGuitarist> Alright. I have to get going. I'm in favor of all of it.
01:46:45 <masta> cya paradox =)
01:46:57 <award3535> I have only made one TXLF when it was in San Antonio, it was inode0 and I
01:48:36 <masta> Anybody seen inode0 lately?
01:49:35 <award3535> masta last I knew he was promoted and it takes up all of his time, got an email a few weeks ago from him
01:50:19 <masta> ok cool, just curious. He was my mentor and haven't seen him around lately.
01:50:43 <award3535> yeah, he was kind of mine along with kk4ewt
01:51:19 <award3535> in fact he suggested that I attend the Linuxcon in New Orleans that time to represent us
01:52:18 <award3535> well does anyone have anything else
01:52:30 <masta> ok folks, I got a good deal of chaos here at the house putting food on the table for my family, so I'm going to wonder off now. Thanks for running the meeting award3535 =)
01:52:44 <award3535> no problem
01:52:44 * masta wonders off
01:52:59 <award3535> #endmeeting