04:00:47 <tuanta> #startmeeting
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04:01:08 <tuanta> #meetingname apac-20141004
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04:01:18 <tuanta> #topic Roll call
04:02:06 <tuanta> #info This is an irregular meeting to decide fund support for some last-minute people to attend APAC FAD Phnom Penh
04:02:30 <tuanta> #info Topic: Announcements
04:02:41 <tuanta> #info Topic: Tickets
04:02:48 <tuanta> #info Topic: Open Floor
04:04:00 <somvannda> .fas somvannda
04:04:00 <zodbot> somvannda: somvannda 'Kong Somvannda' <somvannda@gmail.com>
04:04:07 <kushal> .hellomynameis kushal
04:04:08 <zodbot> kushal: kushal 'Kushal Das' <kushaldas@gmail.com>
04:04:29 <siddhesh> .fas siddhesh
04:04:29 <zodbot> siddhesh: siddhesh 'Siddhesh Poyarekar' <spoyarek@redhat.com>
04:04:30 <tuanta> .fas tuanta
04:04:32 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
04:04:36 <nangthang> .fas nangthang
04:04:37 <zodbot> nangthang: nangthang 'Thang Nguyen Nang' <thangnguyennang1988@gmail.com>
04:04:41 <tuanta> #chair somvannda kushal siddhesh nangthang
04:04:41 <zodbot> Current chairs: kushal nangthang siddhesh somvannda tuanta
04:04:41 <alick> .fas alick
04:04:42 <zodbot> alick: alick 'Zhao Tao' <alick9188@gmail.com> - walicki 'John Walicki' <johnwalicki@gmail.com> - patrikskalicky 'Patrik Skalicky' <patrik.skalicky@gmail.com> - sakodak 'Jason Balicki' <sakodak@gmail.com> - mskalick 'Marek Skalický' <mskalick@redhat.com> - alickee '' <alick.tmp@gmail.com> - drako 'Stefan Palicki' <stefan.palicki@gmail.com>
04:04:50 <tuanta> #chair alick
04:04:50 <zodbot> Current chairs: alick kushal nangthang siddhesh somvannda tuanta
04:04:57 <kushal> alick, use .hellomynameis command
04:05:03 <somvannda> lol
04:06:45 <rtnpro> .hellomynameis rtnpro
04:06:46 <zodbot> rtnpro: rtnpro 'Ratnadeep Debnath' <rtnpro@gmail.com>
04:06:50 <tuanta> .hellomynameis alick
04:06:51 <zodbot> tuanta: alick 'Zhao Tao' <alick9188@gmail.com>
04:06:53 <tuanta> :)
04:07:03 <rtnpro> .fas rtnpro
04:07:05 <zodbot> rtnpro: rtnpro 'Ratnadeep Debnath' <rtnpro@gmail.com>
04:07:06 <kushal> tuanta, :)
04:07:11 <rtnpro> cool :)
04:07:20 <tuanta> #topic Announcements
04:07:33 <tuanta> I have got some important/interesting announcements first
04:07:41 <tuanta> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-October/202995.html
04:07:44 <alick> :)
04:08:23 <tuanta> #info a new governance model is being discussed in Fedora board
04:08:48 <tuanta> and
04:08:56 <tuanta> #info Fedora 21 if in progress
04:09:17 <tuanta> those are for people who do not follow the mailing lists much
04:09:27 <tuanta> #chair Orca-Krilozona
04:09:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: Orca-Krilozona alick kushal nangthang siddhesh somvannda tuanta
04:09:43 <kushal> tuanta, rtnpro is also an ambassador from India
04:09:44 <tuanta> then now, we can go into our main topic
04:09:46 <kushal> old one
04:09:58 <tuanta> #chair rtnpro
04:09:58 <zodbot> Current chairs: Orca-Krilozona alick kushal nangthang rtnpro siddhesh somvannda tuanta
04:10:02 <tuanta> hello rtnpro
04:10:06 <kushal> tuanta, I have one information to share.
04:10:12 <tuanta> #chair gnokii_
04:10:12 <zodbot> Current chairs: Orca-Krilozona alick gnokii_ kushal nangthang rtnpro siddhesh somvannda tuanta
04:10:15 <tuanta> #chair pravins
04:10:15 <zodbot> Current chairs: Orca-Krilozona alick gnokii_ kushal nangthang pravins rtnpro siddhesh somvannda tuanta
04:10:37 * kushal will be joining in the Fedora team as Fedora cloud engineer next week.
04:10:42 <tuanta> I am really interested in seeing a lot of people join to our meeting
04:10:44 <somvannda> tuanta: it is so interesting
04:10:46 <pravins> hi tuanta
04:10:52 <pravins> kushal: congrats :) glad to here that
04:10:55 <somvannda> kushal: cool, congrats
04:11:11 <tuanta> kushal, why not this week? :)
04:11:15 <kushal> pravins, somvannda Thanks :)
04:11:22 <tuanta> #topic Tickets
04:11:24 <kushal> tuanta, Durga Puja in Bengal.
04:11:24 <somvannda> tuanta: because of tickets? lol
04:11:32 <rtnpro> .hellomynameis rtnpro
04:11:34 <zodbot> rtnpro: rtnpro 'Ratnadeep Debnath' <rtnpro@gmail.com>
04:11:49 <tuanta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/report/9
04:12:36 <tuanta> last week, we put the Indian attendance to FAD in delay
04:13:01 <tuanta> at that time, we have a fund request from niteshnarayanlal
04:13:13 <tuanta> ticket #147
04:13:25 <tuanta> now we have another one from siddhesh #153
04:13:38 <tuanta> fasinfo niteshnarayanlal
04:13:42 <tuanta> .fasinfo niteshnarayanlal
04:13:43 <zodbot> tuanta: User: niteshnarayanlal, Name: nitesh narayan lal, email: niteshnarayanlal@hotmail.com, Creation: 2011-01-31, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, GPG key ID: None, Status: inactive
04:13:46 <tuanta> .fasinfo siddhesh
04:13:46 <zodbot> tuanta: Approved Groups: cla_fedora
04:13:49 <zodbot> tuanta: User: siddhesh, Name: Siddhesh Poyarekar, email: spoyarek@redhat.com, Creation: 2009-05-28, IRC Nick: siddhesh, Timezone: UTC, Locale: en, GPG key ID: F1CF2187, Status: active
04:13:52 <zodbot> tuanta: Approved Groups: ambassadors cla_fedora cla_done cla_redhat fedorabugs triagers packager
04:14:04 <kushal> tuanta, siddhesh was part of FUDCON pune organizer team
04:14:08 <tuanta> now we need to choose one of them to fund to FAD
04:14:38 <tuanta> AFAICS, siddhesh is a long time contributor
04:14:58 <tuanta> he starts Fedora work in 2009
04:15:02 <kushal> tuanta, Yes and he understand budgets and events more than many of us.
04:15:12 <tuanta> niteshnarayanlal starts in 2011
04:15:30 <kushal> tuanta, starting year does not matter in that way (at least I think)
04:15:40 <tuanta> and surprisingly, I see niteshnarayanlal is not in ambassadors group
04:15:45 <somvannda> +1 kushal
04:16:02 <tuanta> .fasinfo niteshnarayanlal
04:16:03 <zodbot> tuanta: User: niteshnarayanlal, Name: nitesh narayan lal, email: niteshnarayanlal@hotmail.com, Creation: 2011-01-31, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, GPG key ID: None, Status: inactive
04:16:04 <kushal> tuanta, but siddhesh is more into community events in India
04:16:06 <zodbot> tuanta: Approved Groups: cla_fedora
04:16:33 <alick> maybe not this fas? the status says inactive :(
04:16:36 <tuanta> thanks kushal for your information
04:16:46 <tuanta> alick, maybe!
04:16:53 <tuanta> I an not sure. Let us chekc more
04:17:11 <tuanta> .fasinfo niteshnarayan
04:17:12 <zodbot> tuanta: User: niteshnarayan, Name: nitesh narayan lal, email: niteshnarayanlalleo@gmail.com, Creation: 2011-02-26, IRC Nick: niteshnarayanlal, Timezone: Asia/Kolkata, Locale: en, GPG key ID: E89D 2F27 87A8 590A 7471  DD36 60B6 7CFA 0C2D E22A, Status: active
04:17:15 <zodbot> tuanta: Approved Groups: fedorabugs packager @videos freemedia designteam ambassadors cla_fpca cla_done marketing cla_fedora
04:17:17 <tuanta> yes, that's it
04:17:41 <tuanta> and it shows he is in Ambassadors group
04:17:49 <tuanta> sorry for my previous mistake
04:18:05 <tuanta> back to our work now
04:18:48 <tuanta> I think we need more experienced people at FAD, especially ones who done more events/activities and more familiar with budget
04:19:05 <tuanta> kushal can not make it to PP
04:19:08 <pravins> tuanta: +1
04:19:17 <tuanta> then we have got 2 candidates now
04:19:56 <kushal> tuanta, lets just vote if you want to
04:20:18 <kushal> that is coming back to the point.
04:20:18 <somvannda> i prefer vote rather than explains because people might think this and that..
04:20:22 <tuanta> it is not all about money, but I prefer to support siddhesh too (his flight is cheaper, as in their ticket)
04:20:39 <tuanta> ok, lets vote
04:20:48 <tuanta> but before that, I think people may have some questions, ideas
04:20:52 <pravins> siddhesh: good, if you can update ticket with latest prices as of today :)
04:21:01 <somvannda> pravins: lol
04:21:02 <tuanta> then you can frely share them before we go into that vote
04:21:21 <tuanta> s/frely/freely
04:21:37 * siddhesh looks up latest prices on cleartrip
04:21:44 <kushal> Okay, who all are in favor of siddhesh to represent India in the FAD? please give plus one.
04:21:47 <kushal> +1
04:21:56 <rtnpro> +1
04:21:57 <tuanta> I shared my thoughts above. any more thoughts from others?
04:22:09 <somvannda> +1 for siddhesh
04:22:13 <alick> +1
04:22:34 <kushal> anyone else wants to vote?
04:22:37 <Orca-Krilozona> +1
04:22:42 <nangthang> +1
04:22:46 <pravins> +1
04:22:59 <tuanta> +1 from me too.
04:23:16 <somvannda> anyone else?
04:23:35 <kushal> Okay, that is +8 as it seems.
04:23:44 <siddhesh> do I need to do a +1 for the record?
04:23:45 <tuanta> However, we are welcome Nitesh to join (this vote is just for fund support, not for some kind of permissions for them to attend FAD)
04:24:16 <kushal> siddhesh, Nope, you are abstain to this one :)
04:24:24 <siddhesh> :)
04:24:25 <kushal> tuanta, Yup, thanks.
04:24:30 <kushal> Okay, who all are in favor of Nitesh to represent India in the FAD? please give plus one.
04:24:55 <tuanta> #agreed Approved travel subsidy for siddhesh to FAD Phnom Penh (ticket #153)
04:25:02 <tuanta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/153
04:25:10 <somvannda> tuanta: we havent vote for Nitesh yet :D
04:25:28 <tuanta> I think we should choose one of them, not two
04:25:55 <somvannda> at least to make this fair and lets see who got most votes. I don't want to upset anyone. :(
04:25:56 <kushal> tuanta, Yes, just for record I asked for a vote, it seems the answer is zero.
04:26:03 <kushal> somvannda, Yes.
04:26:27 <tuanta> FAD funds should be used to support for one from/per country
04:26:38 <kushal> tuanta, Yup.
04:26:58 <tuanta> others are welcome too. But we can support travel for one.
04:28:16 <somvannda> so everyone agreed -1 for Nitesh ticket? I would want to make sure
04:28:26 <tuanta> unless, we have some special reasons to support another person from the same country
04:28:46 <kushal> somvannda, we are like 0 on him.
04:28:57 <siddhesh> fyi, flight cost is mostly unchanged for me.  the most convenient and cheap flight combo is at INR 29,981 ($487 approx.)
04:29:16 <kushal> tuanta, you can go ahead with the meeting.
04:29:19 <tuanta> thanks siddhesh. You should purchase it asap
04:29:24 <somvannda> kushal: ok :) so we can approve siddhesh ticket officially now
04:29:27 <tuanta> thanks kushal :)
04:30:02 <siddhesh> tuanta: ok
04:30:03 <somvannda> siddhesh: please go for your ticket asap.
04:30:18 <tuanta> #agreed Not approved for travel subsidy for Nitesh to FAD (ticket #147)
04:30:41 <tuanta> #action tuanta to update status of tickets #147 and #153
04:30:57 <somvannda> we still have one more ticket right tuanta?
04:31:12 <tuanta> with "meeting" keyword: no
04:31:32 <tuanta> I don't see any more tickets with "meeting" keyword set (just Polo Shirts)
04:31:41 <pravins> tuanta: #151
04:31:59 <somvannda> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/154
04:32:10 <somvannda> for Orca-Krilozona
04:32:21 <Orca-Krilozona> Yes tuanta my late ticket.
04:32:26 <Orca-Krilozona> thanks somvannda
04:32:40 <tuanta> pravins, next times, you should set it a "meeting" keyword if you want it to be discussed during the meeting
04:32:46 <tuanta> Orca-Krilozona too
04:33:14 <Orca-Krilozona> acknowledged. tuanta.
04:33:38 <tuanta> Orca-Krilozona, you will travel from which city?
04:33:47 <Orca-Krilozona> From Myanmar tuanta
04:33:47 <tuanta> #topic Ticket #154
04:33:56 <tuanta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/154
04:34:06 <tuanta> Orca-Krilozona, city, please
04:34:14 <Orca-Krilozona> Yangon tuanta
04:34:36 <pravins> we did not discussed last time, since i was not mentioned any specific budget requirement for same.
04:34:53 <tuanta> Orca-Krilozona, have you tried to look for the best/cheapeast route?
04:35:31 <Orca-Krilozona> Yes, tuanta i googled it before. And here agent says 397 will be the cheapest.
04:36:07 <Orca-Krilozona> And coz of unstable local exchange from USD to MMK rate i made it 400
04:36:37 <tuanta> yes, I see
04:37:02 <pravins> in between i also talked with local Pune, India vendor he suggested INR404  as a price
04:37:12 <pravins> for Fedora Polo T-shirt
04:37:53 <kushal> pravins, wait for your ticket, right now we are discussing #154 (see topic)
04:38:20 <rtnpro> pravins, how many T-Shirts do you plan to print?
04:38:36 <kushal> rtnpro, please discuss it at the time of that 151 ticket.
04:38:44 <rtnpro> kushal, ok
04:38:47 <pravins> kushal: my mistake, i lost connection in between.
04:38:59 <kushal> pravins, No issues.
04:39:16 <alick> tuanta: how much left in the travel budget of FAD PP?
04:39:37 <tuanta> about $800, I think. We need recalculate it
04:40:10 <tuanta> I want to have some reserve for last-minute person :)
04:40:23 <tuanta> you know, we have some VIP like KageSenshi :)_
04:40:56 <tuanta> he has not confirmed yet, but it is really good to have a CC holder in budget planning FAD
04:41:29 <tuanta> Orca-Krilozona, I am just curious if we have any cheaper flights
04:41:36 <tuanta> so now is time to vote
04:41:41 <alick> yes that is reasonable
04:41:53 <kushal> +1 to #154
04:42:20 <Orca-Krilozona> tuanta, yea, so far, there will be no cheaper one coz here got no direct flight and gotta transit at BKK.
04:42:59 <tuanta> understood, Orca-Krilozona
04:43:50 <alick> +1 for Orca-Krilozona
04:44:22 <tuanta> +1 from me too
04:45:19 <nangthang> +1 since it's her fist time to attend FAD
04:45:20 <tuanta> and others? nangthang siddhesh rtnpro pravins
04:45:20 <siddhesh> fyi, flight booked.  final cost is INR 30281 ($492 approx)
04:45:44 <tuanta> vote for ticket #154, please
04:45:49 <kushal> tuanta, +1
04:45:51 * rtnpro has no opinion on this
04:46:00 * siddhesh reads through the chat log
04:46:08 * Orca-Krilozona is male nangthang :D
04:46:28 <nangthang> +1 from me :)
04:47:03 <siddhesh> +1
04:47:55 <pravins> +1 (looks good to me)
04:48:05 <somvannda> +1
04:48:26 <tuanta> #agreed Approved travel subsidy request to FAD from Orca-Krilozona (ticket #154)
04:48:40 <Orca-Krilozona> Thank you guys ^^
04:48:42 <tuanta> #action tuanta to update the status of ticket #154
04:48:52 <tuanta> Orca-Krilozona, you are welcome. See you there :)
04:49:05 <kushal> Now #151
04:49:12 <tuanta> Orca-Krilozona, but one more thing: do you need a visa to Cambodia?
04:49:18 <somvannda> tuanta: i will work on recalculation and update on wiki page
04:49:26 <tuanta> thanks somvannda
04:49:30 <somvannda> tuanta: no i dont think he needs
04:49:35 <tuanta> please mark it as an action for you :)
04:49:40 <kushal> I updated #151 with meeting keyword.
04:49:57 <somvannda> #action somvannda to update travel budget left on wiki page
04:49:59 <pravins> thanks kushal
04:50:04 <Orca-Krilozona> tuanta, here http://www.projectvisa.com/visainformation/Cambodia it says we can visit without visa.
04:50:18 <tuanta> Orca-Krilozona, cool :)
04:50:23 <Orca-Krilozona> :D
04:50:27 <tuanta> #topic Ticket #151
04:50:41 <tuanta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/151
04:50:42 <kushal> pravins, do you want to say something about the event?
04:50:55 <kushal> and what kind of audience you are expecting?
04:51:02 <pravins> kushal: yes, this is event around language computing
04:51:26 <pravins> we have audience as a number of participants from different languages
04:51:56 <pravins> This is second time it is happening.
04:52:07 <kushal> pravins, from different companies who are working on language technologies, correct?
04:52:25 <pravins> kushal: yes, one is specifically government
04:52:27 <pravins> CDAC
04:53:15 <pravins> i have seen, people use different platform for language computing stuff, we have proposed workshop on "Fedora: Language computing delight"
04:53:37 <rtnpro> pravins, +1
04:54:05 <pravins> In this we will demonstrate how Fedora is better for language computing and distributing T-shirt after this to attendees even further help to promote Brand
04:54:30 <kushal> Do anyone have any question? or else we can just vote.
04:54:54 <tuanta> pravins et all. I think we need some ways to produce T-shirt as well as other swag in mass
04:55:09 <rtnpro> pravins, regarding T-Shirts, what's the cost for print a T-Shirt?
04:55:26 <kushal> rtnpro, he already said that, 404 :)
04:55:27 <rtnpro> s/print/printing
04:55:45 <pravins> rtnpro: i talked with local Pune vendor, it is INR 404 including taxes. But i think emboss for "l10n delight" can cost more
04:55:48 <tuanta> it does not make sense to spend $200 for 20 T-shirt (it may cost a half if we can produce them in massive way - approx 200 pieces or more)
04:55:50 <rtnpro> kushal, pravins, it's cheaper than the printing cost in Bangalore :\
04:56:01 <somvannda> kushal and pravins: I am still new to Fedora and i am not involve much in such programming language, but can you please explain how Fedora is better for language computing? what is the language are you talking about?
04:56:07 <kushal> rtnpro, complete different qualities.
04:56:38 <alick> somvannda: i think pravins talks about human languages and translations.
04:56:53 <kushal> alick, +1
04:57:00 <siddhesh> I don't see the point in distributing t-shirts.  how about distributing media instead?
04:57:03 <pravins> somvannda: sure, we have all major fonts, IME, latest rendering engine, CLDR and application required for translation including pedit, lokalize
04:57:08 <tuanta> +1 alick. it is about i18n team
04:57:18 <alick> pravins: i think you should come up with a budget plan first.
04:57:28 * tuanta is still in curious
04:57:57 <tuanta> I prefer to have a strategy to produce T-shirts and swag in mass
04:58:00 <kushal> alick, He came up with tshirt prices.
04:58:05 <pravins> siddhesh: i think we should distribute T-shirt, since it will promote Fedora name.
04:58:07 <rtnpro> tuanta, +1
04:58:30 <pravins> tuanta: i do agree, if we have that in place that will be great.
04:58:32 <somvannda> pravins: thanks, I thought you were talking about programming languages.
04:58:42 <pravins> somvannda: welcome :)
04:58:44 <alick> 404INR = 6.7 USD?
04:58:54 <somvannda> i have no problem with this i will give +1 for this :D
04:58:55 <rtnpro> somvannda, :)
04:59:24 <siddhesh> pravins: so would media IMO.  t-shirts for fuel speakers on the other hadn might not be a bad idea.
04:59:32 <siddhesh> s/hadn/hand
05:00:35 <kushal> pravins, I would suggest, lets get the names of the fedora participants/speakers who will be there
05:00:44 <kushal> and print those tshirts
05:01:05 <pravins> kushal: nice idea.
05:01:07 <kushal> rather than giving to the crowd.
05:01:14 * tuanta rather put this request in pending while discuss the wider strategy to produce T-shirts and Swag in massive way
05:01:43 <kushal> pravins, Please come up with the list of Fedora speakers in the list and we can do that in the next week's meeting.
05:02:05 <kushal> tuanta, I would want this one to get approved with a new list as this is for a special event.
05:02:15 <pravins> kushal: sure
05:02:24 <kushal> Targeting i18n and l10n community.
05:02:24 <alick> and it is good to know the total budget requested before voting.
05:02:46 <kushal> alick, pravins has a budget, we just need to get the new one.
05:02:52 <alick> i see the event is not listed in yearly budget plan.
05:02:58 <siddhesh> pravins: I may have misread your ticket.  I thought you wrote 200 tshirts, but now I see that it is $200
05:03:07 <siddhesh> and just 20 t-shirts
05:03:13 <kushal> siddhesh, :D
05:03:50 <somvannda> i agreed with tuanta
05:03:51 <alick> kushal: ah i see , it is in the comment #1.
05:03:58 <alick> sorry didn't see that.
05:04:19 <tuanta> alick, what?
05:04:40 <tuanta> alick, you meant this: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/151#comment:1 ?
05:04:49 <alick> tuanta: yes.
05:05:02 <alick> tuanta: i did not find it, so thought pravins did not make a budget.
05:05:14 <alick> sorry for the misunderstanding.
05:05:22 <pravins> alick: no problem :)
05:05:26 <tuanta> that's alright, a
05:06:07 <tuanta> so, what's up now?
05:06:17 <tuanta> need more information input or just go voting?
05:06:44 <kushal> tuanta, He will come up with a new list of Fedora speakers in the event.
05:07:00 <kushal> pravins, dates of the event?
05:07:05 <pravins> 14-15 November
05:07:35 <pravins> tuanta: i think lets have discussion on T-shirt producing strategy may be in next meeting?
05:07:56 <kushal> Okay,. that means enough time.
05:08:00 <tuanta> pravins, that's good
05:08:17 <kushal> pravins, tuanta Then we can approve it next week's meeting.
05:08:18 <somvannda> pravins: so how can you attend FAD remotely?
05:08:27 <tuanta> but I prefer to have some volunteer to write it up in advance
05:08:39 <kushal> tuanta, pravins will do it.
05:08:41 <tuanta> we can not discuss on nothing
05:08:58 <tuanta> cool, kushal
05:09:02 <pravins> somvannda: good question, i think i need to check timings. FUELGILT is 1 and half day event
05:09:47 <somvannda> we also need you too to attend the FAD remotely, so please find a better date
05:10:04 <tuanta> somvannda, +1
05:10:44 <pravins> somvannda: thanks, i will try my best  :)
05:10:52 <kushal> somvannda, FUELGILT dates can not be changed as far as I understand
05:10:56 <kushal> pravins, will manage
05:11:04 <pravins> kushal: sure.
05:11:52 <somvannda> pravins: in that case, maybe you can work with siddhesh in advance for the budget planning
05:11:53 <botreynisa> sorry guys I'm late
05:12:09 <kushal> somvannda, Yes, we will do that before only from India,
05:12:11 <somvannda> !chair botreynisa
05:12:30 <kushal> #chair botreynisa
05:12:30 <zodbot> Current chairs: Orca-Krilozona alick botreynisa gnokii_ kushal nangthang pravins rtnpro siddhesh somvannda tuanta
05:12:33 <pravins> somvannda: yes, that is in plan
05:12:37 <siddhesh> somvannda: yes, in fact the plan is to have *all* of us plan in advance
05:12:47 <somvannda> sorry wrong command lol
05:13:11 <somvannda> good, so that will be a long list from India. Cool i love to see that
05:13:33 * siddhesh definitely hopes so :)
05:13:41 <somvannda> i supposed everyone knows botreynisa, she is also a FAD event organizer from Cambodia :)
05:14:36 <pravins> hi botreynisa, nice to see you meeting :)
05:14:39 <Orca-Krilozona> hello botreynisa o/
05:14:43 <botreynisa> Hmm... I guess I am too quiet :/
05:14:48 <siddhesh> botreynisa o/
05:15:12 <botreynisa> Hi pravins and Orca-Krilozona and siddhesh
05:15:21 <somvannda> anyway, is there anything to discuss?
05:15:24 <kushal> botreynisa, I hope I met you during fossasia
05:15:24 <tuanta> kushal, pravins: we have discussed enough on ticket #151?
05:15:29 <alick> hi botreynisa
05:15:35 <kushal> tuanta, yes, delayed till next week.
05:15:39 <pravins> tuanta: yes, lets move ahead
05:15:42 <tuanta> ok
05:15:45 <botreynisa> Yes kushal we had met before :)
05:15:47 <tuanta> #topic Open Floor
05:16:11 <tuanta> now is time to make friend with one of women ambassadors in APAC :)
05:16:14 <botreynisa> Hi alick!
05:16:22 <somvannda> lol
05:16:24 <kushal> tuanta, What is the time for next FUDCON APAC?
05:16:39 <tuanta> oh, my fault
05:16:46 <kushal> tuanta, yup.
05:16:51 <tuanta> I want it to be discussed to day too
05:16:57 <somvannda> kushal: seemed like everyone wants to do in Phnom Penh
05:17:01 <tuanta> but now is it over an hour
05:17:10 <tuanta> we can do that on the mailing list too
05:17:21 <kushal> somvannda, We, the India team will also bid for next FUDCON
05:17:34 <somvannda> i see.
05:17:36 <tuanta> somvannda, but we should open it for everyone to bid
05:17:36 <alick> cool!
05:17:49 <somvannda> yeah, of course tuanta
05:17:56 <tuanta> kushal +1. maybe, Vietnamese team either :)
05:18:00 <pravins> kushal: +1 :)
05:18:12 <kushal> More  than anything else we have a good number of upstream contributors and it will be cheaper to fly them to another country.
05:18:19 <tuanta> I prefer to have a few options then we can choose the best one
05:18:27 <kushal> s/to/than
05:18:32 <kushal> tuanta, Yes.
05:18:46 <tuanta> yes, kushal. that is one of your big advantages
05:19:04 <tuanta> lets see.
05:19:09 <kushal> tuanta, and we already did one fudcon before.
05:19:12 <tuanta> I will send a call for bidding next week
05:19:20 <tuanta> yes, I know, in Pune
05:19:26 <tuanta> it missed that :(
05:19:48 <tuanta> #action tuanta to send a call for FUDCon APAC bidding next week
05:19:58 <kushal> This time we are looking at other venues too within the country where FOSS upstream work is encouraged.
05:20:28 <tuanta> I hate to say, but at the last FUDCon, time is too tight
05:20:35 <tuanta> alick, you should agree
05:20:50 <alick> tuanta: yes
05:20:51 <tuanta> we have just little time to prepare for it
05:21:06 <alick> we had to act very hard near the event
05:21:07 <kushal> tuanta, I want to move it to the Nov if possible
05:21:26 <somvannda> kushal: too quick :(
05:21:30 <tuanta> however, it was successful. Thanks all your efforts, Chinese team :)
05:21:35 <kushal> somvannda, 2015 :)
05:21:44 <somvannda> kushal: you meant the announcement?
05:21:52 <tuanta> kushal, we can propose that idea
05:21:59 <kushal> somvannda, Nope, next year's FUDCON APAC
05:22:06 <kushal> somvannda, 2014 we already had one.
05:22:13 <kushal> tuanta, yes.
05:22:27 <somvannda> kushal: i mean the call for bidding should postpone to Nov, you mean?
05:22:27 <tuanta> kushal, but I think it maybe hard because it is too close from FUDCon LATAM (end of Oct)
05:22:42 <kushal> tuanta, I am ok with other months also
05:22:46 <alick> +1 for tuanta
05:22:57 <kushal> just starting preparation this year will give us more time.
05:23:01 <tuanta> kushal, please put that into your proposal
05:23:04 <alick> somvannda: call for bidding should be sent out ASAP
05:23:06 <kushal> somvannda, nope, the actual event.
05:23:13 <tuanta> you can have some options for that
05:23:26 <tuanta> anyway, I will send a call for bidding next week
05:23:31 <kushal> alick, what was the date for this year's event?
05:23:38 <tuanta> on May
05:23:42 <alick> kushal: 23-25 May
05:23:48 <alick> IIRC...
05:23:53 <kushal> summer :(
05:23:57 <alick> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Beijing_2014
05:23:57 <tuanta> that is our regular date for FUDCon APAC
05:24:09 <tuanta> yes, summer
05:24:11 <kushal> asia is hot during summer
05:24:13 <kushal> :)
05:24:19 <alick> that's late spring :D
05:24:26 <somvannda> it was not so bad in Beijing
05:24:35 <tuanta> APAC: on May, Flock: August and LATAM: Oct
05:25:04 <alick> Seems less events in winter in general sense...
05:25:09 <tuanta> we can also do that earlier (April) or later (December :)
05:25:31 <alick> when is FOSSAsia?
05:25:38 <alick> is it set?
05:25:46 <tuanta> Feb and March is impossible I think, because of Lunar new year or so
05:25:57 <tuanta> alick, I don't know
05:26:11 <kushal> alick, around end of Feb
05:26:15 <tuanta> I heard that would be in Singapore
05:26:42 <tuanta> lets end the today meeting now?
05:26:55 <tuanta> I will send a call next week then we can discuss ore
05:26:58 <tuanta> more
05:27:05 <somvannda> ok
05:27:19 <somvannda> i will have to travel another 135km away from Phnom Penh too
05:27:34 <tuanta> today?
05:27:37 <somvannda> yeah
05:27:43 <somvannda> will leave in half an hour
05:27:51 <tuanta> ok, have a good trip
05:27:52 <kushal> Just end the meeting
05:27:57 <Orca-Krilozona> have a good trip somvannda
05:27:58 <tuanta> #endmeeting