04:04:40 <FranciscoD> #startmeeting APAC ambassadors 2014-08-30 04:04:40 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Aug 30 04:04:40 2014 UTC. The chair is FranciscoD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:04:40 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 04:04:49 <FranciscoD> #meetingname APAC ambassadors 2014-08-30 04:04:49 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'apac_ambassadors_2014-08-30' 04:04:58 <FranciscoD> #chair zsun MarkDude banas 04:04:58 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MarkDude banas zsun 04:05:02 <zsun> .fasinfo zsun 04:05:03 <zodbot> zsun: User: zsun, Name: Ziqian SUN (Zamir), email: sztsian@gmail.com, Creation: 2013-02-02, IRC Nick: zsun, Timezone: Asia/Shanghai, Locale: zh_CN, GPG key ID: , Status: active 04:05:05 <FranciscoD> anyone else here for apac meeting? 04:05:06 <zodbot> zsun: Approved Groups: ambassadors cvsl10n openshift-origin cla_done cla_fpca 04:05:07 <MarkDude> +1- eating dinner whilst distracted by Linus insulting Debian at Debconf 04:05:13 <MarkDude> Ooops 04:05:14 <FranciscoD> heh 04:05:17 <MarkDude> .fas MarkDude 04:05:18 <zodbot> MarkDude: markdude 'Mark Terranova' <doctorfoss@gmail.com> 04:05:19 <FranciscoD> .hellomynameis ankursinha 04:05:24 <zodbot> FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' <sanjay.ankur@gmail.com> 04:05:35 <zsun> ping alick 04:05:47 <alick> .fasinfo alick 04:05:49 <zodbot> alick: User: alick, Name: Zhao Tao, email: alick9188@gmail.com, Creation: 2010-02-18, IRC Nick: alick, Timezone: Asia/Hong_Kong, Locale: zh_CN, GPG key ID: C9AB214F, Status: active 04:05:49 <banas> .fas sarupbanskota 04:05:52 <zodbot> alick: Approved Groups: docs docs-writers fedorabugs docs-publishers cla_fedora cla_done cvsl10n cla_fpca ambassadors 04:05:55 <zodbot> banas: sarupbanskota 'Sarup Banskota' <sbanskota08@gmail.com> - testoid 'testoid' <sarupbanskota@live.in> 04:06:04 <somvannda> !fas somvannda 04:06:09 <somvannda> .fas somvannda 04:06:10 <zodbot> somvannda: somvannda 'Kong Somvannda' <somvannda@gmail.com> 04:07:15 <FranciscoD> This is the agenda for today https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/query?keywords=~meeting&status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&order=priority&group=type&col=id&col=summary&col=keywords&col=status&col=owner&col=type&col=priority&report=9 04:07:31 <FranciscoD> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/report/9 04:07:34 <FranciscoD> prettier link ^ 04:07:50 <zsun> only my ticket? 04:07:57 <FranciscoD> yeah, looks like it 04:08:04 <FranciscoD> lets start with announcements 04:08:08 <zsun> okay 04:08:09 <FranciscoD> #topic announcements 04:08:12 <FranciscoD> Anyone? 04:08:17 <FranciscoD> #chair alick 04:08:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MarkDude alick banas zsun 04:08:29 <FranciscoD> #chair somvannda 04:08:29 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MarkDude alick banas somvannda zsun 04:08:42 <FranciscoD> I have some generic announcements 04:08:54 <somvannda> i think we have few more topics 04:09:10 <FranciscoD> #info Gnome test day was on 28th. You can still test stuff: ttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2014-08-28_Gnome_3.14 04:09:20 <somvannda> i am looking for izhar to help on purchasing my flight ticket, and also the FAD in Phnom Penh 04:09:41 <FranciscoD> #info Teams have preparing for release - mktg/design/websites. Please join their mailing lists to contribute 04:09:45 <FranciscoD> #chair amita 04:09:45 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MarkDude alick amita banas somvannda zsun 04:09:48 <MarkDude> Fedora Marketing can always use help. Even more so with release upcoming. eof 04:09:56 <FranciscoD> somvannda: izhar isn't around. You should probably drop him an e-mail 04:10:09 <FranciscoD> we'll do the FAD at the open floor 04:10:14 <FranciscoD> Any other announcements? 04:10:17 * FranciscoD waits a moment 04:10:21 <amita> hi FranciscoD 04:10:29 <FranciscoD> heya amita , good of you to make it :) 04:10:37 <FranciscoD> okay, next topic then 04:10:41 <FranciscoD> #topic trac tickets 04:10:45 <banas> Not an announcement really, I wanted to bring up the tshirts 04:10:55 <banas> oops, next topic ;) 04:10:59 <FranciscoD> banas: sorry, go ahead 04:11:16 <banas> should I undo this topic for now, then? 04:11:25 <FranciscoD> #undo 04:11:25 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Topic object at 0xdf1a0d0> 04:11:32 <FranciscoD> proceed :) 04:11:37 <banas> #topic Ambassador tshirt 04:11:52 <somvannda> ok 04:11:59 <banas> somvannda: any luck with asking the vendors about the prices? 04:12:32 * FranciscoD doesn't have much more to do in today's meeting. I might have to run in a bit, please continue without me :) 04:12:45 <banas> FranciscoD: sure :) 04:12:56 <zsun> FranciscoD sure 04:13:28 <somvannda> banas: the price is 7.5$ per t-shirt 04:13:47 <somvannda> but I think, it will go down to 7$ per t-shirt if we do more than 20 pcs 04:14:14 <banas> somvannda: alright, thanks for finding out :) I think we would do more than 20. 04:14:35 <MarkDude> +1 04:14:43 <somvannda> yeah, because each ambassador got one right? 04:14:43 <banas> I'll add this as an info for now, we could bring it up in the next meeting when tuanta is around 04:15:13 <banas> somvannda: yep, maybe we could also do it for active ambassadors, that's something we'd need to discuss on :) 04:15:31 <somvannda> ok 04:15:40 <somvannda> and please check it here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:PhnomPenh_2014#Accommodation_Information 04:15:47 <somvannda> i have the hotel information now 04:15:54 <banas> #info somvannda reports tshirt's price as 7.5$/tshirt 04:16:20 <banas> #action banas to work with design team for the svg by next meeting 04:17:01 <banas> somvannda: thanks for the link, we'll linkify during the next topic/open floor. 04:17:01 <somvannda> can we discuss about FAD? 04:17:13 <banas> sure somvannda, should I start a topic for it? 04:19:00 <somvannda> yeah 04:19:09 <somvannda> i think there is nothing else to discuss beside FAD 04:19:14 <zsun> ! 04:19:22 <banas> zsun: sure 04:19:26 <zsun> I still have my ticket to be discussed 04:19:27 <somvannda> zsun ? 04:19:35 <somvannda> ok, pelase 04:19:47 <banas> yes, there's zsun's ticket to be discusses somvannda 04:19:56 <banas> s/discusses/discussed 04:20:09 <banas> let's do that first and return to FAD 04:20:12 <MarkDude> Both can be done :) 04:20:28 <banas> #topic Tickets 04:20:31 <zsun> thanks banas 04:20:39 <zsun> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/144 04:21:57 <banas> MarkDude, somvannda, alick I'm new, so could you please help with going about this? 04:22:07 <MarkDude> Bonus points for reusable banner. 04:22:18 * banas checks the trac 04:22:46 <MarkDude> zsun, do you have any pics from earlier events? 04:22:58 <MarkDude> Not required if you dont :) 04:23:11 <zsun> you mean DVD or ? 04:23:32 <alick> banas: i think the common procedure is to raise questions if you have, and then vote for decision if all questions are clear 04:23:43 <MarkDude> banas, as far as tickets go, the more of a track record folks have the easier 04:23:44 <somvannda> i have no right to approve anything 04:24:26 <alick> http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2013/China/Beijing/TUNA 04:24:29 <zsun> raise your questions and I think tuanta can decide with that later 04:24:43 * MarkDude means photos of handing out stuff from earlier event (ony thinking of marketing) :D 04:24:52 <banas> MarkDude: alright :D 04:25:12 <MarkDude> zsun, correct. But it will be easier if we ask things 04:25:53 <zsun> oh yes. Alick offered the link of last year. 04:26:09 <MarkDude> Ty alick 04:26:23 <alick> https://wp-awesome.rhcloud.com/2013/09/27/software-freedom-day-tsinghua-university-event-report/ 04:26:31 <alick> this is the event report 04:26:53 <MarkDude> The other projects are good. Looks fully SFD happy :) 04:27:36 <zsun> so alick, the poster on the right of the picture is still there right? 04:28:16 <alick> zsun: not sure if it is that one. But we do have two of same design after fudcon 04:28:21 <zsun> okay. 04:28:33 <zsun> I think I should summarize the ticket. 04:28:49 <MarkDude> Nice report also. Makes me need to do better :D 04:29:26 <alick> can we make decisions today? 04:29:49 <alick> or shall we cast our vote and wait for tuanta to make final decision and update the ticket? 04:30:13 <MarkDude> FranciscoD, would be the expert here :) 04:30:31 <zsun> FranciscoD r u still online ? 04:30:44 <MarkDude> But if he is busy. I would say we can do plan B 04:31:32 <MarkDude> Looks like your media will be for more than one event. As well as you are selective with swag. As in responisble 04:32:22 <zsun> yes. As alick commented in the ticket, there will be two SFD events in Beijing this year. So we planned for the two together 04:33:06 <MarkDude> Cool. And you are asking for stickers, keychains and media? 04:33:47 <zsun> I think we still have some stickers left after FUDCon. Alick can you confirm this? 04:34:26 <MarkDude> Sorry for not being up to speed, but what was your funding last time? 04:34:45 <zsun> So this time, we ask for budget to create live DVD with paper-made cover, and some keyring with fedora logo 04:34:58 <zsun> you mean for the Chinese team? 04:35:13 <alick> zsun: no new stickers needed I think. 04:35:39 <alick> MarkDude: there was a trac ticket also 04:35:45 * MarkDude thinks this looks like event that needs support. Tuan is expert here, and will be able to address the amount- as in money we can help with 04:35:53 <alick> .apacticket 93 04:36:10 <alick> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/93 04:38:11 <izdubar> ok - the prior ticket looks great too 04:39:19 <alick> ready to vote? 04:39:46 <zsun> so I think we can vote on the ticket so tuanta can deal with easier 04:40:19 <zsun> somvannda banas any questions else? 04:40:36 <somvannda> i am fine 04:40:38 <somvannda> +1 04:40:39 <banas> nope, looks good to me as well 04:40:40 <zsun> I mean ,for the ticket 04:40:50 <MarkDud> Connetive issues here 04:40:54 <MarkDude> +1 04:41:11 <zsun> Thanks. 04:41:38 <banas> about the amount, I'd let tuanta deal with it, I'm still learning ;) 04:41:45 <zsun> Okay. 04:41:59 <banas> +1 04:42:21 <zsun> And I checked we have planned budget for SFD events in China at the begining of the year, so Tuanta can check with the amount 04:43:03 <alick> #info we have three +1 for ticket 144, final decision and amount to be done by tuanta 04:43:07 <banas> alright, that's good. could you please update the ticket for tuan to look at it? 04:43:15 <somvannda> but i think we still need to wait for tuan to approve this 04:43:33 <alick> somvannda: yes 04:43:56 <zsun> yes somvannda, we just offer questions and ideas for this, tuanta is the one to approve or reject 04:44:01 <MarkDude> Yep- you can attach meeting logs to ticket after :) 04:44:09 <alick> zsun: plz ping tuanta after the meeting for final decisions 04:44:14 <zsun> Okay. 04:44:22 <MarkDude> AND make it hopefully easier for busy Tuan 04:44:29 <banas> :D 04:44:33 <zsun> #action ping tuanta about ticket 144 04:44:37 <zsun> #undo 04:44:37 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by zsun at 04:44:33 : ping tuanta about ticket 144 04:44:51 <banas> alright, moving on, I wanted to raise that some tickets on the trac seem quite outdated. 04:44:53 <zsun> #action zsun ping tuanta about ticket 144 after the meeting 04:45:08 <MarkDude> FAD first? 04:45:14 <alick> ok 04:45:35 <banas> MarkDude: alright, let's do FAD first then 04:45:37 <MarkDude> Should be quick, unless there are new things for it 04:45:46 <MarkDude> Nothing else on SFD day? 04:46:13 <somvannda> please discuss on FAD first, because i have to run 04:46:18 <banas> #topic FAD Phnom Penh 04:46:36 <somvannda> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:PhnomPenh_2014 here is the FAD link 04:46:56 <banas> #link fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:PhnomPenh_2014 04:47:14 <somvannda> we are opening for apac ambassadors to apply 04:47:49 <MarkDude> Passion Guesthouse could be a great place, or maybe not. We should look into it a bit more maybe 04:48:14 <MarkDude> Sorry- thought we are on rooms 04:48:18 <somvannda> MarkDude: yeah, i will check sometime this afternoon or tomorrow again, since the rooms are full, so i cant check when i was there 04:48:55 <MarkDude> No problem. If it needs to be used- we can always let folks know if its "interesting" 04:49:28 <somvannda> yeah 04:50:34 <somvannda> come along with that, we are going to have a release party on 14 Nov in the evening, so if you can make it 04:50:46 <somvannda> it would be nice 04:51:40 <somvannda> well, is there anyone want to input some idea about FAD? 04:51:48 <MarkDude> Maybe next year :) 04:51:50 <banas> sadly, I won't make it :( But I'll try to attend it remotely :) 04:52:08 * MarkDude noticed the remote attendee. how do you work that? 04:52:34 <MarkDude> We have done it by using a laptop - or you can do it fancier XD 04:52:35 <somvannda> it is a little bit hard, but i think we can stream on youtube? 04:53:07 <MarkDude> Fedora UK has details on this - folow up with me later 04:53:26 <MarkDude> They are doing a podcast - found out HOW to do it. 04:54:06 <somvannda> can you make it as action? 04:54:34 <banas> yep - but if it's just going to be me, I'd say etherpad updates would do. 04:54:51 <MarkDude> #action somvannda follow up on details for livestream for remote attendees- with Fedora UK 04:54:52 <alick> somvannda: you should also ping tuanta afterwards for approval 04:55:11 <somvannda> alick: we need to know about the whole budget for this 04:55:34 <MarkDude> Well likely to stream AMbassador part. Or just a bit- the whole thing is hard to do 04:56:01 <alick> somvannda: i see it is listed in the wiki, $3000 in total 04:56:05 <somvannda> MarkDude: yeah 04:56:22 * MarkDude reminds that FAD is about deliverables. A video with appropriate license is counted IMHO 04:56:25 <alick> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Budget:2015#Q4_.28Dec_2014_-_Feb_2015.29 04:56:25 <somvannda> alick: I still unclear about this, but this is what tuan was mentioned earlier 04:56:55 <MarkDude> Be choosy with what you do. Makes it easier to attempt. Not required tho. Etherpad will do a decent job if need be 04:56:56 <alick> somvannda: the FAD was planned and budget is $3000, so i think that is it. 04:57:10 <somvannda> if we can get a cheaper accommodation, then we can sponsor more people to here 04:57:12 <alick> somvannda: yes you should contact tuanta if there is question. 04:57:23 <MarkDude> +1 04:57:50 <somvannda> ok 04:58:05 <MarkDude> Good thinking tho- on looking at money 04:58:29 <MarkDude> Any other loose ends you can think of somvannda ? 04:58:39 <alick> somvannda: +1 use the money wisely 04:58:49 <MarkDude> And then we can release you from the tractor beam 04:59:12 <MarkDude> As in "let you go" from the meeting now 04:59:36 <somvannda> MarkDude: what is tractor beam? 05:00:13 <MarkDude> Star War- the DeathStar grabbed spaceships that way 05:01:02 * MarkDude attempted joke that we are *holding you here and wont let you go until after FAD questions* :) 05:01:16 <zsun> we need to speed up. It's already one hour 05:01:29 <zsun> :) 05:02:02 <banas> yep, shall we move to an open floor? 05:02:11 * banas has exams to mug for :D 05:02:13 <MarkDude> FAD looks great 05:02:37 <zsun> I think we can move to open floor if nothing else 05:02:42 <MarkDude> #action somvannda follow up on rooms after talking with tuan 05:02:45 <MarkDude> +1 05:02:54 <banas> #topic Open Floor 05:03:26 <banas> I wanted to raise that many tickets on the trac seem a little old and could be closed/marked as resolved etc. 05:03:44 <somvannda> ok 05:03:55 <somvannda> i have to go now guys 05:04:17 <banas> so if I wanted to help clean it up, would I normally leave an update for the owner to close it? 05:04:43 <MarkDude> laters somvannda 05:04:57 <banas> bye somvannda 05:05:04 <MarkDude> Ping them if you know them 05:05:12 <MarkDude> If not emailing might be nice 05:05:29 * MarkDude has done this before. It can be odd with some tickets 05:05:44 <banas> MarkDude: cool - and if they seem unresponsive, I close it if I think it has been resolved? 05:06:21 <MarkDude> Likely yes. But it would depend. Like the yearly one- even tho its dated 2012 05:06:26 <banas> MarkDude: ah, I figured there could be problems, so I decided to ask first :D 05:06:34 * MarkDude has not actually read it- just using as example 05:06:42 <MarkDude> +1 05:06:47 <banas> cool - I understand 05:07:06 <banas> I'll try to work on some of these tickets before the next meeting :) 05:07:10 <MarkDude> Most likely none, but if no response- you can comment. 05:07:31 <banas> #action banas look at old tickets to see if they can be cleaned up 05:07:34 <MarkDude> Good deal- I can try to look- but many can be closed. FAMNA has many that need this 05:07:38 <MarkDude> +1 05:08:04 <banas> alright, if anything requires clarification, we could bring it up in the next meeting 05:08:17 <alick> +1 05:08:20 <MarkDude> Sounds good 05:08:27 <banas> :) 05:08:36 <banas> is there anything left to be discussed? 05:08:36 <zsun> +1 05:08:44 <zsun> nothing from me 05:08:44 <alick> who will volunteer to send minutes today? 05:09:12 <banas> I'll do it 05:09:19 <alick> banas: thx 05:09:23 <zsun> thanks 05:09:34 <alick> shall we close the meeting? 05:09:41 <banas> yes, I think we can :) 05:09:45 <banas> #endmeeting