04:04:40 <FranciscoD> #startmeeting APAC ambassadors 2014-08-30
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04:04:49 <FranciscoD> #meetingname APAC ambassadors 2014-08-30
04:04:49 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'apac_ambassadors_2014-08-30'
04:04:58 <FranciscoD> #chair zsun MarkDude banas
04:04:58 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MarkDude banas zsun
04:05:02 <zsun> .fasinfo zsun
04:05:03 <zodbot> zsun: User: zsun, Name: Ziqian SUN (Zamir), email: sztsian@gmail.com, Creation: 2013-02-02, IRC Nick: zsun, Timezone: Asia/Shanghai, Locale: zh_CN, GPG key ID: , Status: active
04:05:05 <FranciscoD> anyone else here for apac meeting?
04:05:06 <zodbot> zsun: Approved Groups: ambassadors cvsl10n openshift-origin cla_done cla_fpca
04:05:07 <MarkDude> +1- eating dinner whilst distracted by Linus insulting Debian at Debconf
04:05:13 <MarkDude> Ooops
04:05:14 <FranciscoD> heh
04:05:17 <MarkDude> .fas MarkDude
04:05:18 <zodbot> MarkDude: markdude 'Mark Terranova' <doctorfoss@gmail.com>
04:05:19 <FranciscoD> .hellomynameis ankursinha
04:05:24 <zodbot> FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' <sanjay.ankur@gmail.com>
04:05:35 <zsun> ping alick
04:05:47 <alick> .fasinfo alick
04:05:49 <zodbot> alick: User: alick, Name: Zhao Tao, email: alick9188@gmail.com, Creation: 2010-02-18, IRC Nick: alick, Timezone: Asia/Hong_Kong, Locale: zh_CN, GPG key ID: C9AB214F, Status: active
04:05:49 <banas> .fas sarupbanskota
04:05:52 <zodbot> alick: Approved Groups: docs docs-writers fedorabugs docs-publishers cla_fedora cla_done cvsl10n cla_fpca ambassadors
04:05:55 <zodbot> banas: sarupbanskota 'Sarup Banskota' <sbanskota08@gmail.com> - testoid 'testoid' <sarupbanskota@live.in>
04:06:04 <somvannda> !fas somvannda
04:06:09 <somvannda> .fas somvannda
04:06:10 <zodbot> somvannda: somvannda 'Kong Somvannda' <somvannda@gmail.com>
04:07:15 <FranciscoD> This is the agenda for today https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/query?keywords=~meeting&status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&order=priority&group=type&col=id&col=summary&col=keywords&col=status&col=owner&col=type&col=priority&report=9
04:07:31 <FranciscoD> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/report/9
04:07:34 <FranciscoD> prettier link ^
04:07:50 <zsun> only my ticket?
04:07:57 <FranciscoD> yeah, looks like it
04:08:04 <FranciscoD> lets start with announcements
04:08:08 <zsun> okay
04:08:09 <FranciscoD> #topic announcements
04:08:12 <FranciscoD> Anyone?
04:08:17 <FranciscoD> #chair alick
04:08:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MarkDude alick banas zsun
04:08:29 <FranciscoD> #chair somvannda
04:08:29 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MarkDude alick banas somvannda zsun
04:08:42 <FranciscoD> I have some generic announcements
04:08:54 <somvannda> i think we have few more topics
04:09:10 <FranciscoD> #info Gnome test day was on 28th. You can still test stuff: ttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2014-08-28_Gnome_3.14
04:09:20 <somvannda> i am looking for izhar to help on purchasing my flight ticket, and also the FAD in Phnom Penh
04:09:41 <FranciscoD> #info Teams have preparing for release - mktg/design/websites. Please join their mailing lists to contribute
04:09:45 <FranciscoD> #chair amita
04:09:45 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD MarkDude alick amita banas somvannda zsun
04:09:48 <MarkDude> Fedora Marketing can always use help. Even more so with release upcoming. eof
04:09:56 <FranciscoD> somvannda: izhar isn't around. You should probably drop him an e-mail
04:10:09 <FranciscoD> we'll do the FAD at the open floor
04:10:14 <FranciscoD> Any other announcements?
04:10:17 * FranciscoD waits a moment
04:10:21 <amita> hi FranciscoD
04:10:29 <FranciscoD> heya amita , good of you to make it :)
04:10:37 <FranciscoD> okay, next topic then
04:10:41 <FranciscoD> #topic trac tickets
04:10:45 <banas> Not an announcement really, I wanted to bring up the tshirts
04:10:55 <banas> oops, next topic ;)
04:10:59 <FranciscoD> banas: sorry, go ahead
04:11:16 <banas> should I undo this topic for now, then?
04:11:25 <FranciscoD> #undo
04:11:25 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Topic object at 0xdf1a0d0>
04:11:32 <FranciscoD> proceed :)
04:11:37 <banas> #topic Ambassador tshirt
04:11:52 <somvannda> ok
04:11:59 <banas> somvannda: any luck with asking the vendors about the prices?
04:12:32 * FranciscoD doesn't have much more to do in today's meeting. I might have to run in a bit, please continue without me :)
04:12:45 <banas> FranciscoD: sure :)
04:12:56 <zsun> FranciscoD sure
04:13:28 <somvannda> banas: the price is 7.5$ per t-shirt
04:13:47 <somvannda> but I think, it will go down to 7$ per t-shirt if we do more than 20 pcs
04:14:14 <banas> somvannda: alright, thanks for finding out :) I think we would do more than 20.
04:14:35 <MarkDude> +1
04:14:43 <somvannda> yeah, because each ambassador got one right?
04:14:43 <banas> I'll add this as an info for now, we could bring it up in the next meeting when tuanta is around
04:15:13 <banas> somvannda: yep, maybe we could also do it for active ambassadors, that's something we'd need to discuss on :)
04:15:31 <somvannda> ok
04:15:40 <somvannda> and please check it here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:PhnomPenh_2014#Accommodation_Information
04:15:47 <somvannda> i have the hotel information now
04:15:54 <banas> #info somvannda reports tshirt's price as 7.5$/tshirt
04:16:20 <banas> #action banas to work with design team for the svg by next meeting
04:17:01 <banas> somvannda: thanks for the link, we'll linkify during the next topic/open floor.
04:17:01 <somvannda> can we discuss about FAD?
04:17:13 <banas> sure somvannda, should I start a topic for it?
04:19:00 <somvannda> yeah
04:19:09 <somvannda> i think there is nothing else to discuss beside FAD
04:19:14 <zsun> !
04:19:22 <banas> zsun: sure
04:19:26 <zsun> I still have my ticket to be discussed
04:19:27 <somvannda> zsun ?
04:19:35 <somvannda> ok, pelase
04:19:47 <banas> yes, there's zsun's ticket to be discusses somvannda
04:19:56 <banas> s/discusses/discussed
04:20:09 <banas> let's do that first and return to FAD
04:20:12 <MarkDude> Both can be done :)
04:20:28 <banas> #topic Tickets
04:20:31 <zsun> thanks banas
04:20:39 <zsun> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/144
04:21:57 <banas> MarkDude, somvannda, alick I'm new, so could you please help with going about this?
04:22:07 <MarkDude> Bonus points for reusable banner.
04:22:18 * banas checks the trac
04:22:46 <MarkDude> zsun, do you have any pics from earlier events?
04:22:58 <MarkDude> Not required if you dont :)
04:23:11 <zsun> you mean DVD or ?
04:23:32 <alick> banas: i think the common procedure is to raise questions if you have, and then vote for decision if all questions are clear
04:23:43 <MarkDude> banas, as far as tickets go, the more of a track record folks have the easier
04:23:44 <somvannda> i have no right to approve anything
04:24:26 <alick> http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2013/China/Beijing/TUNA
04:24:29 <zsun> raise your questions and I think tuanta can decide with that later
04:24:43 * MarkDude means photos of handing out stuff from earlier event (ony thinking of marketing) :D
04:24:52 <banas> MarkDude: alright :D
04:25:12 <MarkDude> zsun, correct. But it will be easier if we ask things
04:25:53 <zsun> oh yes. Alick offered the link of last year.
04:26:09 <MarkDude> Ty alick
04:26:23 <alick> https://wp-awesome.rhcloud.com/2013/09/27/software-freedom-day-tsinghua-university-event-report/
04:26:31 <alick> this is the event report
04:26:53 <MarkDude> The other projects are good. Looks fully SFD happy :)
04:27:36 <zsun> so alick, the poster on the right of the picture is still there right?
04:28:16 <alick> zsun: not sure if it is that one. But we do have two of same design after fudcon
04:28:21 <zsun> okay.
04:28:33 <zsun> I think I should summarize the ticket.
04:28:49 <MarkDude> Nice report also. Makes me need to do better :D
04:29:26 <alick> can we make decisions today?
04:29:49 <alick> or shall we cast our vote and wait for tuanta to make final decision and update the ticket?
04:30:13 <MarkDude> FranciscoD, would be the expert here :)
04:30:31 <zsun> FranciscoD r u still online ?
04:30:44 <MarkDude> But if he is busy. I would say we can do plan B
04:31:32 <MarkDude> Looks like your media will be for more than one event. As well as you are selective with swag. As in responisble
04:32:22 <zsun> yes. As alick commented in the ticket, there will be two SFD events in Beijing this year. So we planned for the two together
04:33:06 <MarkDude> Cool. And you are asking for stickers, keychains and media?
04:33:47 <zsun> I think we still have some stickers left after FUDCon. Alick can you confirm this?
04:34:26 <MarkDude> Sorry for not being up to speed, but what was your funding last time?
04:34:45 <zsun> So this time, we ask for budget to create live DVD with paper-made cover, and some keyring with fedora logo
04:34:58 <zsun> you mean for the Chinese team?
04:35:13 <alick> zsun: no new stickers needed I think.
04:35:39 <alick> MarkDude: there was a trac ticket also
04:35:45 * MarkDude thinks this looks like event that needs support. Tuan is expert here, and will be able to address the amount- as in money we can help with
04:35:53 <alick> .apacticket 93
04:36:10 <alick> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/93
04:38:11 <izdubar> ok - the prior ticket looks great too
04:39:19 <alick> ready to vote?
04:39:46 <zsun> so I think we can vote on the ticket so tuanta can deal with easier
04:40:19 <zsun> somvannda banas any questions else?
04:40:36 <somvannda> i am fine
04:40:38 <somvannda> +1
04:40:39 <banas> nope, looks good to me as well
04:40:40 <zsun> I mean ,for the ticket
04:40:50 <MarkDud> Connetive issues here
04:40:54 <MarkDude> +1
04:41:11 <zsun> Thanks.
04:41:38 <banas> about the amount, I'd let tuanta deal with it, I'm still learning ;)
04:41:45 <zsun> Okay.
04:41:59 <banas> +1
04:42:21 <zsun> And I checked we have planned budget for SFD events in China at the begining of the year, so Tuanta can check with the amount
04:43:03 <alick> #info we have three +1 for ticket 144, final decision and amount to be done  by tuanta
04:43:07 <banas> alright, that's good. could you please update the ticket for tuan to look at it?
04:43:15 <somvannda> but i think we still need to wait for tuan to approve this
04:43:33 <alick> somvannda: yes
04:43:56 <zsun> yes somvannda, we just offer questions and ideas for this, tuanta is the one to approve or reject
04:44:01 <MarkDude> Yep- you can attach meeting logs to ticket after :)
04:44:09 <alick> zsun: plz ping tuanta after the meeting for final decisions
04:44:14 <zsun> Okay.
04:44:22 <MarkDude> AND make it hopefully easier for busy Tuan
04:44:29 <banas> :D
04:44:33 <zsun> #action ping tuanta about ticket 144
04:44:37 <zsun> #undo
04:44:37 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by zsun at 04:44:33 : ping tuanta about ticket 144
04:44:51 <banas> alright, moving on, I wanted to raise that some tickets on the trac seem quite outdated.
04:44:53 <zsun> #action zsun ping tuanta about ticket 144 after the meeting
04:45:08 <MarkDude> FAD first?
04:45:14 <alick> ok
04:45:35 <banas> MarkDude: alright, let's do FAD first then
04:45:37 <MarkDude> Should be quick, unless there are new things for it
04:45:46 <MarkDude> Nothing else on SFD day?
04:46:13 <somvannda> please discuss on FAD first, because i have to run
04:46:18 <banas> #topic FAD Phnom Penh
04:46:36 <somvannda> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:PhnomPenh_2014 here is the FAD link
04:46:56 <banas> #link fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:PhnomPenh_2014
04:47:14 <somvannda> we are opening for apac ambassadors to apply
04:47:49 <MarkDude> Passion Guesthouse could be a great place, or maybe not. We should look into it a bit more maybe
04:48:14 <MarkDude> Sorry- thought we are on rooms
04:48:18 <somvannda> MarkDude: yeah, i will check sometime this afternoon or tomorrow again, since the rooms are full, so i cant check when i was there
04:48:55 <MarkDude> No problem. If it needs to be used- we can always let folks know if its "interesting"
04:49:28 <somvannda> yeah
04:50:34 <somvannda> come along with that, we are going to have a release party on 14 Nov in the evening, so if you can make it
04:50:46 <somvannda> it would be nice
04:51:40 <somvannda> well, is there anyone want to input some idea about FAD?
04:51:48 <MarkDude> Maybe next year :)
04:51:50 <banas> sadly, I won't make it :( But I'll try to attend it remotely :)
04:52:08 * MarkDude noticed the remote attendee. how do you work that?
04:52:34 <MarkDude> We have done it by using a laptop - or you can do it fancier XD
04:52:35 <somvannda> it is a little bit hard, but i think we can stream on youtube?
04:53:07 <MarkDude> Fedora UK has details on this - folow up with me later
04:53:26 <MarkDude> They are doing a podcast - found out HOW to do it.
04:54:06 <somvannda> can you make it as action?
04:54:34 <banas> yep - but if it's just going to be me, I'd say etherpad updates would do.
04:54:51 <MarkDude> #action somvannda follow up on details for livestream for remote attendees- with Fedora UK
04:54:52 <alick> somvannda: you should also ping tuanta afterwards for approval
04:55:11 <somvannda> alick: we need to know about the whole budget for this
04:55:34 <MarkDude> Well likely to stream AMbassador part. Or just a bit- the whole thing is hard to do
04:56:01 <alick> somvannda: i see it is listed in the wiki,  $3000 in total
04:56:05 <somvannda> MarkDude: yeah
04:56:22 * MarkDude reminds that FAD is about deliverables. A video with appropriate license is counted IMHO
04:56:25 <alick> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/Budget:2015#Q4_.28Dec_2014_-_Feb_2015.29
04:56:25 <somvannda> alick: I still unclear about this, but this is what tuan was mentioned earlier
04:56:55 <MarkDude> Be choosy with what you do. Makes it easier to attempt. Not required tho. Etherpad will do a decent job if need be
04:56:56 <alick> somvannda: the FAD was planned and budget is $3000, so i think that is it.
04:57:10 <somvannda> if we can get a cheaper accommodation, then we can sponsor more people to here
04:57:12 <alick> somvannda: yes you should contact tuanta if there is question.
04:57:23 <MarkDude> +1
04:57:50 <somvannda> ok
04:58:05 <MarkDude> Good thinking tho- on looking at money
04:58:29 <MarkDude> Any other loose ends you can think of somvannda ?
04:58:39 <alick> somvannda: +1 use the money wisely
04:58:49 <MarkDude> And then we can release you from the tractor beam
04:59:12 <MarkDude> As in "let you go" from the meeting now
04:59:36 <somvannda> MarkDude: what is tractor beam?
05:00:13 <MarkDude> Star War- the DeathStar grabbed spaceships that way
05:01:02 * MarkDude attempted joke that we are *holding you here and wont let you go until after FAD questions* :)
05:01:16 <zsun> we need to speed up. It's already one hour
05:01:29 <zsun> :)
05:02:02 <banas> yep, shall we move to an open floor?
05:02:11 * banas has exams to mug for :D
05:02:13 <MarkDude> FAD looks great
05:02:37 <zsun> I think we can move to open floor if nothing else
05:02:42 <MarkDude> #action somvannda follow up on rooms after talking with tuan
05:02:45 <MarkDude> +1
05:02:54 <banas> #topic Open Floor
05:03:26 <banas> I wanted to raise that many tickets on the trac seem a little old and could be closed/marked as resolved etc.
05:03:44 <somvannda> ok
05:03:55 <somvannda> i have to go now guys
05:04:17 <banas> so if I wanted to help clean it up, would I normally leave an update for the owner to close it?
05:04:43 <MarkDude> laters somvannda
05:04:57 <banas> bye somvannda
05:05:04 <MarkDude> Ping them if you know them
05:05:12 <MarkDude> If not emailing might be nice
05:05:29 * MarkDude has done this before. It can be odd with some tickets
05:05:44 <banas> MarkDude: cool - and if they seem unresponsive, I close it if I think it has been resolved?
05:06:21 <MarkDude> Likely yes. But it would depend. Like the yearly one- even tho its dated 2012
05:06:26 <banas> MarkDude: ah, I figured there could be problems, so I decided to ask first :D
05:06:34 * MarkDude has not actually read it- just using as example
05:06:42 <MarkDude> +1
05:06:47 <banas> cool - I understand
05:07:06 <banas> I'll try to work on some of these tickets before the next meeting :)
05:07:10 <MarkDude> Most likely none, but if no response- you can comment.
05:07:31 <banas> #action banas look at old tickets to see if they can be cleaned up
05:07:34 <MarkDude> Good deal- I can try to look- but many can be closed. FAMNA has many that need this
05:07:38 <MarkDude> +1
05:08:04 <banas> alright, if anything requires clarification, we could bring it up in the next meeting
05:08:17 <alick> +1
05:08:20 <MarkDude> Sounds good
05:08:27 <banas> :)
05:08:36 <banas> is there anything left to be discussed?
05:08:36 <zsun> +1
05:08:44 <zsun> nothing from me
05:08:44 <alick> who will volunteer to send minutes today?
05:09:12 <banas> I'll do it
05:09:19 <alick> banas: thx
05:09:23 <zsun> thanks
05:09:34 <alick> shall we close the meeting?
05:09:41 <banas> yes, I think we can :)
05:09:45 <banas> #endmeeting