02:02:00 <masta> #startmeeting FAmNA 02:02:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jan 15 02:02:00 2014 UTC. The chair is masta. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:02:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 02:02:00 <masta> #meetingname FAmNA 02:02:00 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famna' 02:02:00 <masta> #topic === FAmNA Roll Call === 02:02:00 <masta> Welcome to the Fedora North America Ambassador’s weekly IRC meeting 02:02:17 <masta> howdy 02:02:25 <award3535> waves at everyone 02:02:33 <wrnash1> small group tonight 02:03:24 <nb> hello 02:03:24 <masta> a few folks might be late 02:03:26 <nb> .hellomynameis nb 02:03:28 <nb> hmm, zodbot is slow 02:03:30 * inode0 is here now 02:03:30 <zodbot> nb: nb 'Nick Bebout' <nick@bebout.net> 02:03:30 <nb> .hellomynameis should output my name and stuff 02:03:33 <zodbot> nb: Sorry, but you don't exist 02:03:48 <inode0> happy to see masta getting things rolling though 02:03:52 <nb> oh, now it works 02:04:05 <masta> lol 02:04:21 <award3535> lets roll 02:04:36 <masta> #chair inode0 nb wrnash1 award3535 02:04:37 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 inode0 masta nb wrnash1 02:05:03 <masta> #chair kk4ewt 02:05:03 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 inode0 kk4ewt masta nb wrnash1 02:05:37 <masta> #topic === Announcements === 02:05:53 <masta> Elections opened and closed 02:06:10 <award3535> results yet 02:06:33 <inode0> for the board pretty much but otherwise we usually vote before results :) 02:06:50 <award3535> lol 02:07:21 <masta> for famsco there are three spots, and four nominations... so we have to vote and stuff 02:09:32 <award3535> any other announcements? 02:09:39 <masta> #topic === Tickets === 02:09:40 <masta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 02:09:41 <masta> ktrguhheelceknthcnbnuhhfvelu 02:10:00 <award3535> ??? 02:10:05 <masta> whoops... that was an OTP spewage 02:10:12 <award3535> LMAO 02:10:21 <award3535> been there done that 02:10:27 <wrnash1> it seems to be very slow tonight 02:10:30 <masta> .famnaticket 68 02:10:31 <masta> #topic Ticket #68 - FAmNA Meeting Organization 02:10:32 <zodbot> masta: #68 (FAmNA Meeting Organization) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/68 02:11:00 <masta> this one is fun... a ticket about boring tickets, and running our meetings better 02:12:05 <masta> I guess after we read that ticket, we can move on... and perhaps have a topic of some productive things 02:12:05 <award3535> interesting ticket 02:13:00 <masta> ok so... 02:13:03 <masta> moving on 02:13:28 <award3535> during the slow periods where we dont have a lot of tickets reducing the frequency is a good idea 02:13:35 <masta> #topic === New swag ideas === 02:14:22 <masta> so we are in bad need of a resupply of stuff 02:14:42 <award3535> is it me or is the system slow tonight 02:14:58 <masta> ink pens, button pins, I hear somebody has stickers so we are good there, but out of case badges 02:15:25 <inode0> The only thing I've heard is in good supply are the laptop stickers. 02:15:43 <award3535> what about phone stands, saw them at LINUXCON HP had them with their logo on it. 02:16:08 <award3535> key chains? 02:16:30 <inode0> you know, we have done this half a dozen times before 02:16:47 <inode0> making lists of things is a waste of time unless someone follows through 02:17:02 <masta> agreed 02:17:06 <award3535> I agree 02:17:39 <wrnash1> what about Umbrellas 02:17:59 <masta> I feel kinda powerless here. We lack the agility or initiative to get things done. 02:18:00 <award3535> I would take some things but in my area I am limited to vendor availability that is almost non existent 02:18:41 <award3535> although Jacksonville Fl is only 30 minutes from here, but I can take on some things 02:18:41 <inode0> you have as much access to the internet as we do so I can't understand how you are more hampered than anyone else 02:19:38 <inode0> Here is the way to make swag happen. 02:19:50 <inode0> 1 - get something specific to show us 02:19:52 <award3535> I agree, but what do I need to get things rolling, who holds the mone 02:20:02 <masta> so I'd +1 just any swag idea right now, but I'm inexperienced on the parts of actually placing orders and making things happen. 02:20:17 <inode0> rather than how about key chains so us a keychain and tell us what your design thoughts are 02:20:18 <award3535> I agree with masta 02:20:23 <inode0> have a quote 02:20:33 <wrnash1> I agree with Masta 02:20:45 <wrnash1> Maybe we need a quick class 02:20:55 <inode0> if FAmNA approves it go forward and when the order is ready ask someone to call/login and pay it 02:21:31 <masta> ok. That seems easy enough 02:22:00 <inode0> going back to the previous ticket I offered once before to make a swag purchase at a FAmNA meeting, no one showed up 02:22:01 <award3535> inode0 have have experiance dealing with government ordering and the process. I can get things rolling 02:22:17 <masta> and to some extent I'd be fine floating a line of credit to the project if my own funds have to be used to just get it going... but with in reason 02:23:02 <masta> inode0: probably bad timing that one time you mention 02:23:04 <inode0> I'm willing to try it again if you want 02:23:41 <masta> inode0: my apologies (speaking for myself)... for not evidently not being at that meeting. =( 02:23:58 <inode0> outside of swag it is near year end and any other supplies we might want for events should be considered too 02:24:07 <masta> yep 02:24:19 <kk4ewt> media arrived today 02:24:37 <masta> I'm looking to make a spread sheet of our swag inventory 02:25:26 <kk4ewt> masta if you want to count it i will gladly send it to you 02:26:06 <award3535> I have very little left over from the past events not even worth counting 02:27:06 <masta> kk4ewt: lol... maybe some inaccuracies are fine... just approximations even. 02:27:21 <inode0> t-shirts 0 02:27:25 <inode0> case badges 0 02:27:28 <inode0> pens 0 02:27:32 <inode0> :) 02:27:40 <award3535> LOL 02:27:42 <kk4ewt> masta 10 pencils 1K voice stickers 02:28:20 <inode0> we are scraping the bottom of the leftover drawer I think 02:28:21 <masta> voice stickers? 02:28:32 <inode0> those are the laptop stickers 02:28:36 <kk4ewt> and whatever media that just recieived 02:30:01 <award3535> wow is this slow 02:30:27 <masta> depressingly low 02:31:21 <masta> ink pens, and t-shirts seem like the priority, though I'd not mind some of the new stuff inode0 has mentioned in the recent past 02:31:29 <inode0> we basically have about 4 weeks to load up 02:31:53 <award3535> ok, I will put together some proposals for next week 02:32:25 <kk4ewt> and Vbanners which i will get quotes this week 02:34:59 <masta> would it be helpful if we reached out to Ruth? 02:35:08 <inode0> for what? 02:35:18 <masta> who is in Australia I hear 02:35:34 <masta> I dunno... help with the financing of these ventures 02:35:48 <inode0> anything over $1k she will need to finance 02:35:58 <masta> we got a few of those 02:36:05 <masta> t-shirts I'm guessing 02:36:19 <inode0> anything in that area we won't get this fiscal year I am afraid 02:36:38 <inode0> they can't get the vendor into the system in less than 6 months in my experience 02:36:44 <inode0> so let's just stay under $1k 02:36:53 <inode0> and do what we can do 02:37:44 <masta> ok... I'm going to take it upon myself to findout as much as I can about who our past/existing vendors are... what previous order history with them has ever been, and generally become clueful about this stuff 02:38:03 <inode0> we have a list of vendors on the wiki 02:38:22 <inode0> not complete but it does include quite a few of them 02:38:43 <masta> ok that is a good starting point, I'll audit the list... make sure they are all in the magic RH database of approved vendors or whatever 02:39:06 <inode0> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Swag_vendors 02:39:33 <inode0> Screen Printed Products <--- priority 02:39:49 <inode0> LUSTRE-CAL <-- priority 02:40:49 <inode0> those are the only two on that page that really need to move into the PO ready category 02:41:19 <award3535> are those where we get case badges and t shirts? 02:41:29 <inode0> yes 02:42:02 <masta> I with stabby was here 02:42:07 <masta> s/with/wish/ 02:43:01 <masta> (regarding ink pens) 02:43:35 <inode0> he told me he has 10K of them so just send him email asking him to ship you whatever you need (for event use or regional shippers only) 02:44:03 <inode0> oh sorry, not pens 02:44:09 <masta> stickers 02:44:19 <masta> I'm guessing the voice stickers 02:44:22 <inode0> we do need to order pens and I talked to him about those too 02:44:42 <masta> ok, so I'll see about t-shirts 02:45:09 <inode0> demonjester has always been happy to take care of the shirts if we tell him what we want 02:45:15 <masta> does anybody already have the ball rolling with lustre-cal? 02:45:28 * masta notes demojester 02:45:40 <inode0> it is waiting on Ruth I believe to make them POable 02:47:10 <masta> unfortunate 02:47:52 <masta> ok... so I'm going to action myself to findout more about the vendors, the PO process, the history of all this... etc... and try to get some progress with t-shirts. 02:47:59 <inode0> in about 4 weeks our budget is up - we just can't keep putting this off and we can't wait for Red Hat bookkeeping stuff to happen 02:48:14 <inode0> someone should order $900 of case badges to get us by 02:48:17 <masta> #action masta to engage on the t-shirts 02:48:35 <kk4ewt> nb ordered them last time 02:48:43 <inode0> yes, he did 02:48:53 <inode0> and he has been talking about doing it again 02:49:53 <masta> I agree that we need to take action, urgently 02:51:13 <award3535> since it is less than 1 k how do we order them 02:51:22 <masta> so I'm going to be poking people to get things moving... and hopefully making order of t-shirts or whatever... but that is a boundary I've not crossed yet. 02:52:23 <masta> not much we can do during this meeting, but I'll take some initiative... hopefully I do not disappoint. 02:52:48 <masta> #topic === open floor === 02:53:20 <award3535> I will ask again since I do not know that process how do we order things under 1k 02:54:20 <award3535> .... 02:54:42 <inode0> Didn't I just explain that earlier this meeting? 02:54:57 <masta> I think it involves placing an order and then Ruth calls to pay 02:55:17 <inode0> Or I can call to pay, or Robyn can, or anyone with a CC can. 02:55:45 <award3535> that was what I needed to know I can order the case badges and get things rolling 02:55:48 <inode0> There are a couple of catches which I can go into if it involved new swag items. 02:56:15 <award3535> for those who know, I get things done 02:56:41 <inode0> For the existing swag we are just re-ordering things are easier - but you need to know what exactly we order and what logo/design/artwork needs to be provided to the vendor. 02:56:56 <wrnash1> is there a site or how-to order stuff under 1k. and is there a list of all the poeple with cc 02:57:43 <award3535> I believe the case badges are a reorder and I can get that done quickly 02:58:01 <inode0> First get the proposed swag lined up, show it to us in a FAmNA meeting for approval. Get art from the design team if necessary. Then most likely I'll pay for it. 02:58:32 <masta> inode0: that is why I was interested in the order history and vendor list... got the vendor list, but order history and the details is the missing piece for me... hope to learn as much as possible in the next few days 02:58:36 <inode0> If I can't then we need to ask others to help. 02:59:01 <inode0> masta: there is supposed to be a database of all that including previously used art 02:59:18 <masta> lost tribal knowledge 02:59:23 <inode0> I haven't heard much about it for a long time but spot and mizmo were moving it along 02:59:45 <kk4ewt> masta for the case badges talk to nb, ballons i can help, vbanners i will tell you later 02:59:59 <kk4ewt> balloons 03:00:07 <masta> thanks kk4ewt 03:00:30 <inode0> and for t-shirts we just need to pick the design, if we use an old design we are ok, and ask demonjester to order them (that would be easiest) 03:01:13 <masta> ok folks, I've got to go... my tv show is starting... as bad as that sounds 03:01:19 <award3535> so who is going to order the case badges 03:01:22 <inode0> masta: if we can find a couple of hours we can organize some new stuff 03:01:25 <masta> any objection to ending the meeting? 03:01:43 <masta> inode0: I have many hours to give this the next few days 03:01:45 <kk4ewt> award3535: put a fire under nb 03:01:51 <inode0> nb should be able to take care of the case badges 03:01:54 <award3535> person of interest 03:01:59 <masta> inode0: I'm serious about getting this going. 03:02:09 <masta> award3535: bingo 03:02:14 <award3535> ok, I will contact nb 03:02:20 <award3535> yes I too am watching it 03:03:14 <masta> ok folks, thanks for attending 03:03:16 <inode0> masta: first week of the semester isn't my most free week but I can hopefully help some evening 03:03:27 <masta> inode0: I'm flexible 03:03:45 <inode0> or this weekend for sure 03:03:54 <masta> inode0: I'll ping you in about an hour if you're free, otherwise in the morning or whenever tomorrow. 03:04:08 <masta> #endmeeting