18:58:57 <suehle> #startmeeting
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18:59:04 <suehle> #meetingname Fedora marketing team
18:59:04 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_marketing_team'
18:59:09 <suehle> #topic roll call
18:59:14 <croberts> .fas chrisroberts
18:59:14 <zodbot> croberts: chrisroberts 'Chris Roberts' <croberts@cintrixhosting.com>
18:59:25 <suehle> I'm a smidge early, so we'll give people a minute
18:59:33 * jnalley is here
18:59:35 <croberts> ok :)
18:59:41 <mitzie> .fas mitzie
18:59:42 <zodbot> mitzie: mitzie 'Zacharias Mitzelos' <mitzie@outlook.com>
19:00:21 <mailga> .fas mailga
19:00:21 <zodbot> mailga: mailga 'Gabriele Trombini' <mailga@fedoraonline.it>
19:01:37 <suehle> jzb ping
19:02:46 <jreznik> .fas jreznik
19:02:47 <zodbot> jreznik: jreznik 'Jaroslav Reznik' <jreznik@redhat.com>
19:03:10 <mribeirodantas> .fas mribeirodantas
19:03:12 <zodbot> mribeirodantas: mribeirodantas 'Marcel Ribeiro Dantas' <ribeirodantasdm@gmail.com>
19:03:12 <suehle> #topic Topic brochures/fliers
19:03:15 * mribeirodantas Brazil
19:03:35 <suehle> For those who weren't at Flock, we came back around to the idea of topic-specific fliers.
19:03:53 <suehle> These started at SXSW a few years ago and looked like this:
19:03:56 <suehle> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design/SXSW_Materials#Brochures
19:04:11 <suehle> I adapted it in the sprint for Python:
19:04:13 <suehle> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Python_brochure
19:04:35 <suehle> Now we'd like to do them for cloud, developers, and some other topics.
19:05:22 <suehle> We should probably start with cloud. I believe mattdm has volunteered to help with content.
19:05:34 <suehle> Does anyone have interest in working on content for other topic areas?
19:06:14 <mailga> suehle, think we should ask to ither groups.
19:06:26 <mailga> other* sorry
19:07:44 <suehle> mailga, sure, and we've had a few people say they'd help with this or that. I just wanted to throw it out there since I think there are a couple of people here who might not have heard about them before and wondered what this mailing list discussion was about. :)
19:08:55 <john_terrill> I'd be happy to help with any editing.
19:09:01 <suehle> john_terrill, thanks!
19:09:15 <jzb> howdy all
19:09:21 <suehle> how-dee
19:09:27 <suehle> #topic Fedora Magazine
19:09:35 <mailga> suehle, ok, I'm interested, but wich are competence of mkt group? What shall we do?
19:09:36 <jzb> suehle: I can help with the cloud + server ones
19:09:42 <mailga> ops! too late.
19:09:47 * jzb catching up on reading backlog
19:09:49 <suehle> #topic back to fliers
19:09:54 <suehle> We can always go backwards :D
19:10:21 <suehle> mailga, I'm not sure what your question is
19:10:36 <suehle> jzb, I can't imagine you know anything about cloouuuuds ;)
19:10:48 <jzb> suehle: I'll fake it.
19:11:08 <suehle> jzb, do you know mattdm?
19:11:16 <mailga> suehle, the design is competence of ertwork, and the topics are copetence of each group. Isn't it?
19:11:18 <jzb> suehle: I believe we've met :-)
19:11:41 <suehle> It would be nice if we could get that content nailed down in the next week or so, and then maybe I could get it in the template between beers at LinuxCon New Orleans or something so we'll have them for LinuxCon Europe
19:12:00 <jzb> suehle: My plan is to have a draft by the end of this week.
19:12:16 <suehle> mailga, we're pulling in content with help from subject experts and then using an existing template
19:12:36 <jzb> mailga: usually it's tricky to get a lot of content out of SMEs, so it's good to start with a draft they can tweak.
19:12:46 <jzb> or do a brain dump with the SMEs and then clean it up.
19:12:59 <jzb> (what suehle said...)
19:13:16 <mitzie> Sorry suehle something about the magazine. We were discussing with Croberts if we can take ownership of the magazine contributors list in fas
19:13:28 <suehle> #topic Fedora Magazine
19:13:46 <mitzie> The guy who ownes it has his account inactive
19:13:56 <mailga> suehle, jzb I'm ok with it. But we should use this template for publicizing events.
19:13:57 <suehle> OK... I'm not sure I even realized a FAS group had been created specifically for the magazine. What's the point of it?
19:14:13 <suehle> mitzie, who?
19:14:43 <mitzie> Sorry I am from android and it will take too long to find it. Croberts?
19:15:11 <mitzie> We could approve members who have shown magazine contribution
19:15:20 <suehle> I just looked it up. I don't know what that FAS group was for, but it's not for this.
19:15:30 <suehle> It was created in 2008, long before we started doing this.
19:15:46 <mitzie> Yes, I noticed that
19:15:48 <suehle> mitzie, if they for some reason need a group, why not just add them to marketing?
19:16:07 <suehle> If I had to guess, it was related to the brief (very brief) print Fedora Magazine project.
19:16:17 <jzb> http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-docs-list/2009-February/msg00036.html
19:16:19 <jzb> I guess?
19:16:19 <mitzie> I just found it in fas, and the owner has his acc deactivated
19:17:13 * mailga think it's time for change topic
19:17:38 <suehle> mailga, is there something you want to discuss?
19:17:50 * jreznik has one topic :)
19:18:23 <mailga> no, we're talkin about fedora magazine and you came back in the topic.
19:18:33 <croberts> suehle: one more thing about the magazine before we change if you dont mind
19:18:41 <mitzie> Sorry mailga I am with friends
19:18:59 <mitzie> And loged in from androirc
19:18:59 <suehle> croberts, go ahead
19:19:04 <mailga> mitzie, don't worry.
19:19:37 <croberts> Mitzie filed a ticket with infra about the site being slow, and kevin replied. we added a plugin that he suggested and the site is working much faster now
19:19:37 <croberts> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3985#comment:1>
19:20:04 <croberts> he suggested making admins use openid and removing https to increase speed, is this something that should be done or no
19:20:08 <suehle> Cool. You'll also notice the slowness is related to https--you see it when you've at some point been logged into wordpress.
19:20:25 <mitzie> Yes croberts thanks!
19:20:40 <suehle> We do use a sort of workaround to let us use openid for the login, so I guess somebody would just have to make that change.
19:20:43 <jzb> suehle: how can I get access to do mysqldumps, etc. to keep backups? also make sure we're doing updates?
19:20:57 <suehle> jzb, mizmo set it all up, so I'd poke her
19:21:04 <jzb> I've noticed we're behind on WP updates, which makes me nervous
19:21:10 <jzb> suehle: OK
19:21:22 <suehle> We also need to give Miro Hrončok credit for the picture of the 3d printed logos.
19:21:27 <mitzie> We are covered with wp updates jzb
19:21:39 <mitzie> I think
19:21:40 <jzb> mitzie: did we run that today?
19:21:59 <mitzie> Sorry run what?
19:21:59 <jzb> mitzie: I know I can run the updates via the admin interface, but I like to do a backup 1st.
19:22:07 <jzb> mitzie: the WP updates
19:22:18 <mitzie> Is there a wp update available?
19:22:39 <mitzie> Or a plugin/theme one?
19:22:43 <croberts> +1 jzb I agree we should have a backup
19:22:49 <croberts> backups*
19:23:03 <mitzie> I think openshift takes on its own
19:24:04 <jzb> mitzie: I still see 9 updates needed in WordPress.
19:24:17 <jzb> themes + plugins
19:24:31 <suehle> jzb, just ping mizmo about how to get in there, and you can be in charge of updates and backups :)
19:24:35 <mitzie> They are thene updates, which I think is not necessary
19:24:37 <jzb> suehle: on it, thanks
19:24:40 <suehle> #topic open floor
19:24:43 <suehle> jreznik?
19:24:46 <jzb> mitzie: plugin and theme updates
19:25:02 <jreznik> ok - as you can see, I'm here, that means one thing :)
19:25:12 <jreznik> F20 Alpha is getting closer
19:25:15 <suehle> it's release notes time!
19:25:17 <croberts> alpha time :)
19:25:22 <mitzie> For the plugins I update then, but the one listed have no new features
19:25:28 <jreznik> suehle: and announcements :)
19:25:31 <jreznik> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F20_Alpha_release_announcement
19:25:37 <mitzie> I update them occasional
19:25:47 <suehle> jreznik, when do you need it by?
19:26:23 <jreznik> well, we have still a few blockers but we're pretty close - Alpha is next Tuesday
19:26:34 <jreznik> and Readiness meeting is this Thursdat
19:26:43 <jreznik> Thursday (dog wants to play ;-)
19:26:51 <suehle> we'll get the Heisenbugs out for you and make something happen!
19:27:00 <jreznik> cool, thanks!
19:27:14 <jreznik> yes, we already hit one heisenbug - great name for release :)))
19:27:33 <jreznik> it's Alpha - so basic coverage is enough
19:27:50 <jreznik> and I can do the review if all mentioned changes are in Alpha
19:27:54 <suehle> jreznik, any suggestions on particularly interesting features?
19:28:27 <jreznik> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=Changes%20Tracking&list_id=1691171&product=Fedora
19:28:40 <jreznik> MODIFIED changes should be testable and mostly done
19:29:01 <jreznik> suehle: ARM as primary is pretty interesting one
19:29:13 <jreznik> especially from marketing POV
19:29:35 <jreznik> but we do not promise it to stay primary architecture for final release
19:29:47 <suehle> cool. We'll get something together by the readiness meeting.
19:30:02 <jzb> Perl 5.18, woohoo!
19:30:23 <jzb> NWM bonding support is actually pretty cool
19:30:24 <jreznik> what needs coverage is no default sendmail and rsyslog
19:30:40 <jreznik> it's still ASSIGNED but should be done (just not updated)
19:31:09 <jreznik> jzb: also NM CLI is pretty nice feature
19:31:31 <jzb> jreznik: application installer shows MODIFIED but if I'm reading the items correctly probably too early to mention?
19:32:23 <jreznik> jzb: there is initial implementation
19:32:38 <jreznik> already in F20 and will in alpha
19:33:05 <jzb> OK
19:33:42 <mitzie> Sorry guys I will have to go, forgive me, but I will read the minutes
19:34:30 <jreznik> so even f20 is pretty nice :)
19:35:11 <suehle> For anyone who wants to watch the readiness meeting, it's Thursday, September 12, 2013 17:00 UTC (1 PM EDT, 10 AM PDT, 19:00 CEST)
19:35:49 <suehle> Any other topics?
19:35:49 <jreznik> historically it was sent only to "team leaders" but I think I should change it for more broader visibility
19:36:18 <jzb> suehle: should we also have an item on Fedora Magazine about that?
19:36:22 <suehle> jreznik, I think it's one of the more interesting meetings, even just to watch and not necessarily participate in
19:36:37 <suehle> jreznik, do you want us to put up a post beforehand or just a summary of the results?
19:37:09 <jreznik> suehle: it's up to you
19:37:36 <jreznik> and yes for readiness one, I added it to fedocal
19:37:52 <suehle> We could basically repurpose the email about it as an announcement post. Will definitely do the results post.
19:38:51 * suehle will go put it in
19:40:03 <suehle> Anything else?
19:40:08 <jreznik> thanks suehle
19:41:03 <suehle> #endmeeting