01:00:03 <masta> #startmeeting FAmNA
01:00:03 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Oct 10 01:00:03 2012 UTC.  The chair is masta. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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01:00:03 <masta> #meetingname FAmNA
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01:00:06 <masta> #topic Roll Call
01:00:12 * jds2001 
01:00:22 <award3535> present
01:00:35 * inode0 waves
01:01:12 <masta> big group tonigh
01:01:36 <inode0> we'll get stuff done!
01:01:42 <award3535> agree
01:01:42 <masta> #chair jds2001 inode0 award3535 rbergeron
01:01:42 <zodbot> Current chairs: award3535 inode0 jds2001 masta rbergeron
01:01:43 <dan408> here
01:01:47 <dan408> somewhat here
01:01:49 <dan408> at work.
01:02:16 <masta> ok, let's get started
01:02:21 <masta> #topic Announcements
01:03:00 <inode0> #info quaid is now a mentor for NA ambassador candidates
01:03:08 <award3535> nothing from me tonight
01:03:29 <inode0> #info Naming for F19 is open
01:03:36 <masta> hey nice for quaid
01:03:41 <award3535> cool
01:03:53 <inode0> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_19
01:04:28 * jds2001 hopes it's not as bad as last time....
01:04:30 <MarkDude> \o
01:04:56 <masta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9
01:04:58 <masta> #topic Tickets
01:05:00 * inode0 thinks it was great last time :)
01:05:12 <masta> .famnaticket 33
01:05:17 <zodbot> masta: #33 (2012 Fedora Merchandise Order) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/33
01:05:23 * MarkDude is looking for his ticket
01:05:39 <MarkDude> filed one, Apparently I imagined the whole thing
01:06:07 <masta> #info 2012 Fedora Merchandise Order
01:06:08 <inode0> I touched base with Brian and he will get a quote for splatter t-shirts
01:06:31 <inode0> If we want some cow merchandise we need to get going on that too
01:07:22 <masta> yep, do we have access to the cow art? or do we create new?
01:07:40 <award3535> did we decide on cow stuff from last week?
01:07:48 <inode0> I was thinking about Fedora art on a cow :)
01:08:36 * masta imagines having some fedora shaped cattle branding irons priced out from local black smith
01:08:42 <inode0> So someone was looking at cow stress balls and I think that would be a go if we actually got quotes and someone to arrange them.
01:08:43 <award3535> so is this the stress ball cow
01:08:44 <jds2001> well, going with the spherical part we could do stress balls or somesuch too
01:08:50 <dan408> can we call fedora 19 "Shoryuken"?
01:09:02 <jds2001> inode0++
01:09:26 <jds2001> http://www.squeezyball.com/stress_shapes.html - uk based though.
01:09:37 <inode0> they are easily available
01:09:40 <jds2001> surely there's someone in the US that will do the same stuff.
01:10:26 <masta> I belive the stress ball guy is here in Dallas, was one of the ambassadors at the software freedome event... and I believe he was looking at a UK based vendor too
01:10:50 <inode0> let's try to touch base with him and move this along
01:11:14 <inode0> one suggestion
01:11:17 <award3535> +1
01:11:19 <masta> #action masta reach out to stress ball guy
01:11:39 <inode0> this ticket has lots of other ideas which we should incorporate into the FADNA work on swag for 2013
01:11:50 <inode0> so let's not forget to do that when we begin
01:12:11 <masta> yes, but some of it should go early for f18
01:12:23 <masta> sounds good
01:12:34 <inode0> I'm not sure anyone is working on any of the new stuff for F18
01:12:54 <inode0> we should get t-shirts though in time for F18
01:13:13 <masta> sounds good
01:13:26 <masta> next ticket....
01:13:33 <masta> .famnaticket 36
01:13:35 <masta> #info Fedora Ambassador Day North America (FADNA)
01:13:35 <zodbot> masta: #36 (Fedora Ambassador Day North America (FADNA)) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/36
01:13:53 <MarkDude> So I filed a ticket for the Beefy Miracle cutout. Cant find it. Its for the OLPC Summit. So the important thing is to cover the $40 for a few Ambassadors to go
01:14:21 <inode0> we are on ticket 36 now MarkDude
01:14:53 <MarkDude> my bad
01:15:07 <inode0> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OLPC_San_Francisco_Community_Summit_2012 <--- fill that out with details
01:15:21 <award3535> any new information on the FADNA
01:15:56 <masta> I was at a conference last week, and missed the meeting. was anything covered last week?
01:16:13 <inode0> so one thing we need to do asap is figure out who can arrive a day early
01:16:30 * nb can
01:16:33 <nb> at least should be able to
01:16:39 <masta> plz refresh me, what are these dates?
01:16:39 <inode0> to schedule work it will be helpful to know who will be present
01:16:52 <award3535> 17 Jan 2013
01:17:09 <masta> award3535: thx
01:17:39 <masta> so the fadna would be on the 16th? right?
01:17:45 <inode0> no
01:17:46 <award3535> no prob masta
01:18:18 <award3535> Fadna is on th 17th
01:18:28 <award3535> Fudcon follows on the 18th
01:18:33 <inode0> FUDCon is 18-20, so FADNA on the 17th and parts spilling over
01:18:45 <masta> ok, sry.. I got it now
01:19:00 <masta> so I will go ahead and say that I'll be there on 17th
01:19:11 <inode0> chanchito: ping
01:19:23 <inode0> kk4ewt: ping
01:19:44 <award3535> I am looking into my schedule I willhave to take a week off from work to attend
01:20:08 <inode0> that is tough but I hope you can
01:20:43 <award3535> I also am looking into the train shcedule
01:21:09 <award3535> it would still require me to take a week off
01:22:13 <inode0> ok, we need to start pounding on the wiki I think
01:22:32 <inode0> get the agenda in focus, get attendees listed, start a rough budget section
01:23:02 <inode0> some agenda items we can and should start working on in advance
01:23:02 <masta> ok, has anybody volunteered for the wiki ?
01:23:17 <inode0> award3535 did some work but we all need to pitch in
01:23:28 <inode0> it is a wiki - go edit it :)
01:23:35 <award3535> I did last week, I have some time in the evenings
01:23:39 <masta> agreed, I will make an edit marking myself as going.
01:23:53 <award3535> get me info and I will  update it
01:24:00 <masta> I believe I have some notes with some agenda items
01:24:16 <masta> award3535: ok, will do
01:25:15 <masta> #info We need to get the fadna wiki page going with the people attending, the agenda, and budget
01:25:16 <award3535> yes please email me with what needs to be done...
01:26:19 <masta> ok then...
01:26:22 <masta> moving on
01:26:33 <masta> MarkDude: did you find that ticket?
01:26:40 <award3535> here is the link that was started https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassador_Day_North_America_2012
01:27:01 <masta> #link  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassador_Day_North_America_2012
01:27:13 <masta> award3535: thank you
01:27:23 * inode0 suggests doing cposc
01:27:50 <nb> masta, inode0 are we supposed to put all of our costs for the whole fudcon on the FADNA budget? or is some of it under FUDCon budget?
01:27:50 <masta> inode0: cposc?
01:28:13 <inode0> for the record we don't normally need to look at shipping tickets anyway - the shippers will handle those
01:28:57 <inode0> nb: we'll negotiate that but do travel expenses on FADNA and we sort it out
01:29:16 <inode0> if we can get it paid with FAD budget that frees up money to help others get to FUDCon
01:29:27 <award3535> we discussed last week not combining the budgets
01:29:43 <masta> do we need to create a trac ticket for each person attending the fadna?
01:29:46 <inode0> ultimately it is up to others to decide
01:29:54 <inode0> no, just list it on the wiki
01:30:09 <masta> yea the wiki seems the easy way
01:30:11 <inode0> ticket 44 is cposc
01:30:37 <masta> inode0: oh it just appeared on my listing when refreshed
01:30:39 <masta> ok
01:31:04 <masta> .famnaticket 44
01:31:04 <masta> #info CPOSC 2012
01:31:06 <zodbot> masta: #44 (CPOSC 2012) – FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/44
01:31:31 <masta> inode0: thx... I would have skipped it, must have had an old copy of the meeting agenda
01:31:48 <jds2001> so they want to invoice it, I said to send me the invoice and I'll pay it.
01:31:58 <jds2001> they apparently dont do credit cards.
01:32:13 <masta> what?!
01:32:14 <inode0> jds2001: are you good just getting reimbursed for all of it?
01:32:21 <jds2001> inode0: yeah
01:32:25 <inode0> great
01:32:36 <award3535> sounds easy
01:32:47 <jds2001> my amtrak was a little more than i had anticipated, but not by much
01:33:19 <inode0> jds2001 can sleep in the event box to even that out
01:33:48 <masta> lol
01:33:52 <award3535> lol
01:33:53 <jds2001> heh :D
01:33:57 <inode0> jds2001: just please update the wiki with actual expenses please
01:34:08 * masta notes to have soap added to the event boxes
01:34:24 <award3535> dont forget deoderant
01:34:37 <nb> do we need a motion to approve the budget? or is it already been approveD?
01:34:54 <inode0> we already approved it iirc
01:35:11 <nb> ok
01:35:13 <inode0> yes, I noted that in the ticket
01:35:22 <masta> here is an extra +1
01:35:41 * nb too :)
01:35:47 <jds2001> $126 total for amtrak, will update wiki
01:37:24 <masta> ok, anything else on this ticket?
01:37:41 <inode0> is the media stuff taken care of?
01:38:00 <inode0> event box/banners?
01:38:28 <inode0> jds2001: ?
01:38:30 <award3535> CPOSC was our last item before open floor
01:39:13 <masta> ok, we will move on
01:39:17 <masta> #topic Open Floor
01:39:25 <jds2001> inode0: sorry, was updating wiki
01:39:41 <jds2001> need to decide what to do for the event box, have a request to drop ship in.
01:39:54 <jds2001> I think that rbergeron was shipping me some media.
01:40:14 <inode0> ok, that all sounds good
01:40:21 <jds2001> will file a famnarequests ticket once i figure out what is going on with the event box.
01:42:25 <award3535> *would like more information on accomedations for FADNA
01:43:19 <inode0> award3535: we'll be staying at the hotel with everyone else - I don't think that has been worked out yet
01:43:57 <MarkDude> So I filed a ticket for the Beefy Miracle cutout. Cant find it. Its for the OLPC Summit. So the important thing is to cover the $40 for a few Ambassadors to go
01:44:47 * MarkDude has 4-5 going at most. Grantbow was not able to make meeting- but is regular at OLPC meetings
01:45:12 <award3535> sorry lost connection
01:45:14 * inode0 suggests creating a wiki page for the event with information about who is going and what their expected expenses are going to be
01:46:01 <inode0> I don't think there will be any problem but I don't think we can approve something this vague and we need it documented like every other event
01:46:05 <award3535> thats why I need hotel costs so that I can post
01:46:17 <MarkDude> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OLPC_San_Francisco_Community_Summit_2012
01:46:31 <inode0> award3535: just use +X nights hotel
01:46:51 <inode0> we can't get hotel costs until the deal is negotiated with the hotel for FUDCon
01:46:56 <inode0> we'll get a discount
01:47:04 <award3535> understand all
01:47:22 * MarkDude is saving the *venting part about making a ticket that is gone*
01:47:54 <inode0> MarkDude: we don't need that ticket - a shipper will deal with it - we don't need to spend time on shipping here
01:47:57 <MarkDude> A few Ambassadors are going, dan408 most likely also
01:48:21 <MarkDude> Well, the ticket WOULD have been nice to get the cutout
01:48:47 <inode0> MarkDude: then make another ticket and talk to the person shipping it - Ben
01:48:47 <masta> I think some of the fedora-arm team might be there too
01:48:57 <MarkDude> But yes, I will follow up with this, and have more next meeting :)
01:49:12 <inode0> I don't think the cutout will be any problem either
01:49:37 <inode0> MarkDude: do you understand we need details on the event page?
01:49:38 <dan408> i'll be going to olpc summit
01:50:13 <inode0> Do I have a cache problem?
01:50:22 <inode0> I'm really not seeing anything there
01:51:26 * nb moves we do not approve anything for olpc summit until there is more info including a proposed budget on the event page
01:51:39 <masta> fyi we are 9 minutes to the endmeeting
01:51:47 <masta> nb: +1
01:52:02 <MarkDude> And YEs, I understand details are needed on the page inode0 :)
01:52:02 <award3535> +1 NB
01:52:14 <MarkDude> eof
01:52:17 <inode0> This isn't going to be a big expense
01:53:20 <nb> yea
01:54:46 <masta> anybody have anything else?
01:54:58 <award3535> good meeting tonight
01:55:09 <chanchito> excellent
01:55:14 <masta> going once
01:55:21 <masta> going twice
01:55:28 <masta> #endmeeting