04:02:08 <bckurera> #startmeeting
04:02:08 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Apr 28 04:02:08 2012 UTC.  The chair is bckurera. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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04:02:25 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-04-28
04:02:39 <bckurera> please find the agenda at the above link
04:02:53 <bckurera> #topic Ambassador Pinging
04:03:02 <bckurera> #meetingname apac
04:03:02 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'apac'
04:03:22 <bckurera> .fas bckurera
04:03:22 <zodbot> bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' <bckurera@gmail.com>
04:03:29 <zerng07> .fas zerng07
04:03:30 <zodbot> zerng07: zerng07 'Cheng-Chia Tseng' <pswo10680@gmail.com>
04:03:32 <FranciscoD> .fas FranciscoD
04:03:34 <zodbot> FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' <sanjay.ankur@gmail.com> - franciscodubo 'Francisco Javier Dubó Ortíz' <f.dubo@hotmail.cl>
04:03:36 <VICODAN_> .fas vicodan
04:03:38 <zodbot> VICODAN_: vicodan 'Dan Mashal' <dan.mashal@gmail.com>
04:03:38 <LSD> .fas lsd
04:03:42 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD for famsco!
04:03:42 <zodbot> LSD: lsd 'Lali Sudaththa Devamanthri' <lali.pera@gmail.com> - stefanlsd '' <stefan@lsd.co.za> - vitalsdw 'Shaun Williams' <vitalsdw@hotmail.com> - alsdkj 'alksdf' <asdkfj@galjha.com> - nicholsd 'Donnell Nichols' <donnell.nichols@nsirt-tacticalgroup1.us>
04:03:46 <KageSenshi> .fas izhar
04:03:47 <zodbot> KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' <kagesenshi.87@gmail.com>
04:03:50 <MavJS> .fas MavJS from Burma, currently in Malaysia. Helping out with FUDCon KL. (not an ambassador yet, have applied though. :) )
04:03:52 <zodbot> MavJS: 'MavJS from Burma, currently in Malaysia. Helping out with FUDCon KL. (not an ambassador yet, have applied though. :) )' Not Found!
04:03:56 <MavJS> lol!
04:04:01 <MavJS> .fas MavJS
04:04:02 <zodbot> MavJS: mavjs 'Ye Myat Kaung' <mavjs01@gmail.com>
04:04:26 <bckurera> #chair KageSenshi zerng07
04:04:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: KageSenshi bckurera zerng07
04:04:37 <FranciscoD> huh?
04:04:41 <bckurera> #chair MavJS
04:04:41 <zodbot> Current chairs: KageSenshi MavJS bckurera zerng07
04:04:45 * FranciscoD tapes KageSenshi 's mouth!
04:04:52 <KageSenshi> :P
04:04:53 <FranciscoD> :P
04:04:56 <bckurera> #chair FranciscoD
04:04:56 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi MavJS bckurera zerng07
04:05:00 <MarkDude> .fas MarkDude
04:05:00 <zodbot> MarkDude: markdude 'Mark Terranova' <mark@gidgetkitchen.org>
04:05:13 <bckurera> hello FAms nice to see you all here, and good morning
04:05:20 <bckurera> #chair MarkDude
04:05:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi MarkDude MavJS bckurera zerng07
04:05:43 <bckurera> shall we start reviewing Action Items?
04:06:33 <FranciscoD> aye
04:06:37 <MavJS> +1
04:06:37 <bckurera> #topic Review *ACTION* items from the last meeting
04:06:43 * FranciscoD just got up from bed and came running
04:06:45 <FranciscoD> XD
04:06:57 <bckurera> Action Item #`1 : FranciscoD mail relevant folks with survey ideas
04:07:17 <FranciscoD> bckurera: no updates, next please
04:07:20 <bckurera> FranciscoD floor is yours
04:07:23 <bckurera> ok
04:07:33 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD has been lazy and doesnt have updates
04:07:34 <FranciscoD> :$
04:07:45 <bckurera> Action Item #3: bckurera to work on video to elaborate the importance of apac-trac
04:07:49 <bckurera> still pending
04:07:55 <bckurera> #action bckurera to work on video to elaborate the importance of apac-trac
04:08:15 <bckurera> Action Item #7 : tuanta Reorganize items page for face2face discussion at KL
04:08:26 <bckurera> we miss tuanta today, any update from others?
04:08:39 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD mail relevant folks with survey ideas
04:09:01 <bckurera> I ll add the action item for tuanta again,
04:09:02 <VICODAN_> !
04:09:03 <bckurera> #action tuanta Reorganize items page for face2face discussion at KL
04:09:12 <bckurera> please VICODAN
04:09:25 <VICODAN_> I emailed my design to the design team
04:09:30 <VICODAN_> and am waiting to hear back from you
04:09:36 <VICODAN_> didnt get many positive responses
04:09:47 <VICODAN_> what's the status of the buttons? did you want me to order them and take them to redhat mv?
04:10:15 <KageSenshi> err ..
04:10:23 <bckurera> VICODAN I think you should ping the design team again for a reply, may be there were busy :)
04:10:36 <VICODAN_> well i got a bunch of responses on the list
04:10:38 <VICODAN_> let me pull it up
04:10:40 <bckurera> BTW I think you need to contact Harish directly about the matter on button
04:10:51 * KageSenshi wonder the button is it for general fedora, or is it for fudcon kl ?
04:10:51 <VICODAN_> ok
04:11:01 <VICODAN_> fudcon kl
04:11:04 <KageSenshi> err ..
04:11:18 <bckurera> Since we have KageSenshi with us we can discuss about the situation of buttons.
04:11:18 <KageSenshi> so who will bring it here?
04:11:45 <VICODAN_> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2012-April/005414.html
04:11:49 <KageSenshi> because i already taken quotes to produce buttons using existing design, and right now waiting for harish to send deposit over
04:11:53 <VICODAN_> that was pretty much the end of the conversation
04:11:58 * FranciscoD remembers some discussion about the red hat office getting it transported
04:12:03 <VICODAN_> yes
04:12:14 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: the ones VICODAN_ is speaking about is 100$ worth iirc
04:12:33 <KageSenshi> yes cheaper, but what about shipment ? ..
04:12:36 * FranciscoD hopes he didn't dream up this discussion he's referring to :O
04:12:42 <VICODAN_> it would be shipped from redhat mv
04:12:58 <VICODAN_> (I am in NA, San Jose)
04:13:02 <VICODAN_> MV is 15 minutes from me
04:13:05 <FranciscoD> to harish 's office, who will bring them to KL
04:13:16 <FranciscoD> VICODAN_: wasnt this discussed in the last meeting?
04:13:27 <FranciscoD> last weeks meeting I mean?
04:13:29 <VICODAN_> yes.
04:13:32 <VICODAN_> im following up
04:13:42 <VICODAN_> and time is ticking
04:13:43 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, i was not in the meetings which there was discussion on producing buttons from outside of .my
04:13:55 <FranciscoD> hrm, looks like it didnt make the minutes of the meeting then
04:14:00 <KageSenshi> so now a bit confused here :)
04:14:07 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: ^ I think that's why you werent aware
04:14:18 <KageSenshi> because i'm already in the process of producing the buttons locally
04:14:36 <VICODAN_> if you are taking care of it then it's fine
04:14:42 <KageSenshi> also, which's budget this will be on?
04:14:47 <KageSenshi> fudcon budget or famsco budget?
04:15:10 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: aye, I think these were to be extra 'nice to have' buttons, there wasnt a discussion about these being *the* buttons for KL,
04:15:10 <bckurera> most probably famsco one
04:15:13 <FranciscoD> was there?
04:15:51 <bckurera> FranciscoD I think those are for APAC countries.
04:15:52 <VICODAN_> bckurera and dramsey would be able to answer that question
04:16:02 <KageSenshi> yeah .. i asked for how many extra buttons you guys want to produce together with the buttons under fudcon budget as it'll reduce the per-unit price ..
04:16:20 <KageSenshi> where the extra buttons will come from famsco budget rather than fudcon budget
04:16:48 <bckurera> I m not aware of producing buttons, but we had a discussion on the last meeting, but still I m confused !
04:16:53 <VICODAN_> i'd get to visit redhat mv and hopefully a tshirt out of it that's what i liked about it
04:17:04 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: ah, then that takes care of it I guess.
04:17:20 <arifiauo> hi everyone :)
04:17:25 <bckurera> I think it is better KageSenshi handle it
04:17:26 <arifiauo> .fas arifiauo
04:17:27 <VICODAN_> hello arifiauo
04:17:27 <zodbot> arifiauo: arifiauo 'Arif Tri Waluyo' <arifiauo@gmail.com>
04:17:32 <FranciscoD> VICODAN_: looks like KageSenshi had it covered here. :)
04:17:33 <bckurera> #acir arifiauo
04:17:38 <VICODAN_> no problem, $100 and gas saved
04:17:39 <bckurera> #chair arifiauo
04:17:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi MarkDude MavJS arifiauo bckurera zerng07
04:17:51 <VICODAN_> i'll find an excuse to visit redhat mv some other time
04:17:55 <FranciscoD> VICODAN_: thank you for your proposal anyway, we really appreciate it
04:17:58 <KageSenshi> 1) 500 buttons for fudconkl, produced under fudcon budget
04:18:00 <VICODAN_> no problem
04:18:25 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: use info tags, we need to work on making logs better :P
04:18:33 <KageSenshi> 2) i then asked if anybody want to produce extra under famsco budget, which will later distributed across apac .. and what are amount extra we want
04:18:44 <bckurera> #info 500 buttons for fudconkl, produced under fudcon budget
04:18:51 <bckurera> #info i then asked if anybody want to produce extra under famsco budget, which will later distributed across apac .. and what are amount extra we want
04:19:02 <FranciscoD> bckurera: you didnt do the asking :P
04:19:07 <FranciscoD> ?
04:19:23 <VICODAN_> LOL
04:19:28 <bckurera> please FranciscoD
04:19:32 <KageSenshi> if you guys want to produce the buttons under famsco budget at NA, i'm ok with it :)
04:19:40 <KageSenshi> price is cheaper there though
04:19:41 <VICODAN_> well
04:19:51 <VICODAN_> it was $.20 a button
04:19:58 <VICODAN_> for 1" buttons
04:20:02 <VICODAN_> i dont think 1.5" was much more
04:20:13 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: have you gotten an answer to what you or bckurera asked? :P
04:20:35 <inode0> !
04:20:39 <KageSenshi> VICODAN_, here is 1.5" for myr1.2 (usd 0.4)
04:20:51 * FranciscoD hasnt answered and would like some buttons
04:20:52 <FranciscoD> eof
04:21:00 <bckurera> please inode0
04:21:08 <inode0> Honestly I think it would be dicy getting them in the US, shipped to harish, and delivered to KL in time, EOF
04:21:20 <KageSenshi> +1
04:21:37 <bckurera> thanks that should be the concern
04:21:56 <FranciscoD> #info buttons: it would be dicy getting them in the US, shipped to harish, and delivered to KL in time, EOF
04:22:01 <VICODAN_> that's what im saying, it's getting too late for it
04:22:04 <VICODAN_> +1 inode0
04:22:24 <bckurera> Shall we cone to a conclusion then?
04:22:45 <bckurera> KageSenshi is producing buttons for FUDcon and for APAC on request?
04:22:55 <kaio_ph> Gigi
04:22:56 <arifiauo> hi kaio_ph :)
04:22:56 <kaio_ph> Hi
04:23:05 <bckurera> #chair kaio_ph
04:23:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi MarkDude MavJS arifiauo bckurera kaio_ph zerng07
04:23:10 <kaio_ph> (not Gigi, teeth)
04:23:14 <KageSenshi> #info KageSenshi will start production of fudconkl buttons as soon as he gets money from harish, that means, either monday or tuesday
04:23:29 <kaio_ph> .fas me@kaio
04:23:29 <zodbot> kaio_ph: kaio 'Caius Chance (かいお)' <me@kaio.net>
04:23:38 <bckurera> Thanks, shall we continue then?
04:23:40 <bckurera> next topic
04:23:41 <KageSenshi> and considering i'm already going to go there, guess extra buttons is a no then
04:24:00 <KageSenshi> and we have yet to get famsco budget for producing that :)
04:24:16 <FranciscoD> ?
04:24:26 <bckurera> FranciscoD please
04:24:52 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: did thy open a ticket for the famsco part of the monies?
04:24:58 <FranciscoD> eof
04:25:13 <bckurera> ASAIF the answer is no !
04:25:29 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, no .. as i'm waiting for you guys to decide how many buttons want to be produced under famsco budget, but seems like that decision have yet to be made
04:25:52 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: shall we take a count then? most of the folks coming to KL are here?
04:25:57 <FranciscoD> s/most of/quite a few of/
04:25:58 <bckurera> KageSenshi can you ping the FAm list for this?
04:26:06 <VICODAN_> for 500 1.5" buttons they are $.24 a button
04:26:12 <VICODAN_> $120
04:26:17 <VICODAN_> they also have acetate buttons
04:26:22 <FranciscoD> bckurera: its really limited to folks coming to KL, not all ambassadors IMO
04:26:35 <VICODAN_> http://justbuttons.org/quick-tips/what-is-acetate.html
04:26:52 <bckurera> FranciscoD, but the decision can be taken considering all the needs.
04:27:23 <FranciscoD> ?
04:27:35 <bckurera> go on Franciscod
04:27:46 <KageSenshi> FranciscoD, bckurera .. i'm not sure whether theres enough time to catch up ..
04:27:48 <FranciscoD> so, these buttons that we're speaking of: ones for ambassadors
04:28:05 <FranciscoD> if the ambassadors list is pinged, and we get folks not coming to KL asking for them
04:28:11 <FranciscoD> how do we get the buttons to these folks?
04:28:22 <inode0> !
04:28:28 <FranciscoD> do KL attendees carry them back and mail it out?
04:28:44 <FranciscoD> this is the first I'm hearing about it, so I'd like concrete info :)
04:28:45 <FranciscoD> eof
04:28:49 <bckurera> inode0 floor is yours
04:29:52 <inode0> If you are talking about ordering a few hundred dollars of buttons to distribute at KL to ambassadors for use at other events later I think it is safe to assume famsco will approve that.
04:30:20 * FranciscoD notes that KageSenshi should define an upper limit on number of buttons per ambassador can request: Otherwise the number could run into thousands really.
04:30:32 <FranciscoD> inode0: ++
04:31:00 * inode0 is willing to approve it in any case so you are safe doing it if you don't have time to clear it with famsco - EOF
04:31:35 <bckurera> KangeSenshi when you are going to make the order for buttons?
04:31:52 <FranciscoD> Tuesday/Monday as soon as he gets $$$$$
04:31:58 * FranciscoD passes bckurera some coffee
04:32:00 <KageSenshi> if we're producing 500(fudcon)+500(famsco), the price will drop to myr0.9 per unit ..
04:32:23 <inode0> roughly what is that USD?
04:33:41 <KageSenshi> 1000 buttons -> usd 296 .. 500 buttons - usd 198 ..
04:33:53 <KageSenshi> i already had usd 198 approved to produce 500 buttons
04:33:54 <inode0> Lets vote now to approve it from APAC's perspective and just do it if harish will pay for it
04:34:00 <inode0> +1
04:34:11 <KageSenshi> manufacturer request 50% deposit to produce it
04:34:55 <bckurera_> KageSenshi is it possible to produce another 500 for APAC?
04:34:56 <KageSenshi> the existing approved amount can be used for the deposit i guess instead of paying it full
04:35:14 <KageSenshi> that'll give time to get the other half approved ..
04:35:21 <FranciscoD> inode0: i think its a great idea, +1 for me
04:35:25 <inode0> this is a small enough expense you can make the decision
04:35:47 <bckurera_> yes, we can make the decision here, now !
04:37:01 <KageSenshi> +1
04:37:04 <FranciscoD> +1
04:37:10 <arifiauo> +1
04:37:28 <MavJS> +1
04:37:46 <bckurera> Shall I mark this as #agree for USD 198 funding to produce 500 buttons for APAC
04:37:51 <inode0> yes
04:38:11 <bckurera> ok thanks !
04:38:11 <inode0> wait, 296 for 1000
04:38:18 <KageSenshi> (actually you'll only need usd 100 as i'll be producing them together with fudcon buttons
04:38:30 <FranciscoD> aye, 100$ required only
04:38:39 <bckurera> then it is cool
04:38:49 <bckurera> #agreed USD 100 funding to produce 500 buttons for APAC
04:39:07 <inode0> :)
04:39:12 <FranciscoD> yay!
04:39:20 <bckurera> no any other comments I suppose. I ll open a ticket and pass the message to Harish
04:39:22 <MarkDude> Cool
04:39:26 * FranciscoD runs around singing 'I'll get fedora buttons x2'
04:39:34 <KageSenshi> cool :D
04:39:45 <bckurera> Thanks for your support inode0 and KangeSenshi
04:39:53 <bckurera> shall we move?
04:39:56 <FranciscoD> aye
04:39:58 <KageSenshi> +1
04:40:10 <FranciscoD> move++ gotta keep meeting timed
04:40:28 <bckurera> #topic APAC for FAmSCO (dramsey for you!)
04:40:33 <FranciscoD> go!go!go!
04:40:36 <FranciscoD> +5k
04:40:38 <bckurera> we miss Dramsey today
04:40:45 <FranciscoD> aye, he mailed saying he's travelling
04:40:55 <FranciscoD> ?
04:40:59 <bckurera> please
04:41:08 <FranciscoD> I wanted to clarify this topic:
04:41:32 <FranciscoD> Are we going to decide some folks from APAC who we'll support for FAmSCo elections?
04:41:36 <FranciscoD> is that what we're doing?
04:41:41 <FranciscoD> eof
04:41:56 <arifiauo> +1
04:42:20 <bckurera> I am nit sure since the Dramsey added the topic
04:42:33 <bckurera> we will discuss this when he is around, agree?
04:42:43 <FranciscoD> Because, I don't want each fedora region: apac,latam,na,emea breaking up into political parties who push to get their reps into FAmSCo
04:43:03 <inode0> !
04:43:03 <bckurera> +1
04:43:05 <FranciscoD> I will not participate if it's going to end up like that in *any* way.
04:43:08 <FranciscoD> inode0: please
04:43:11 * FranciscoD eof
04:43:29 <inode0> I strongly agree with FranciscoD - ambassadors on FAmSCo need to represent all ambassadors
04:43:35 <inode0> EOF
04:43:43 <KageSenshi> +1 inode0 FranciscoD
04:44:01 <FranciscoD> I'd rather that we start a campaign so that all Ambassadors know what every Ambassador is doing
04:44:14 <FranciscoD> A 'know your ambassadors' campaign
04:44:21 <FranciscoD> whose goals would be:
04:44:28 <arifiauo> !
04:44:32 <FranciscoD> 1. To get everyone up to speed with what everyone else is doing
04:44:44 <FranciscoD> 2. Push more folks to vote, and thus get a better election run
04:45:06 <FranciscoD> we;ve had complains about the lack of participation in the voting, main cause is that folks dont know the candidates well enough IMO
04:45:17 <FranciscoD> inode0: what d'ya think about ^?
04:45:26 <FranciscoD> eof
04:45:29 <bckurera> please arifiauo
04:45:44 <inode0> famsco elections usually have about 125 voters
04:45:59 <arifiauo> Ithink we need to decide some folks from APAC but not should support for FAmSCo elections.
04:46:14 <FranciscoD> ?
04:46:20 <inode0> I'm not sure how many active ambassadors there are but I suspect that is a substantial portion of them now.
04:46:43 <FranciscoD> inode0: India has 32 alone, i think only about 40% of ambassadors had participated
04:46:55 <FranciscoD> arifiauo: can you clarify please? your statement isn't clear.
04:46:55 <FranciscoD> eof
04:47:09 <inode0> 40% participation is quite large in this sort of organization really
04:47:21 <FranciscoD> aye inode0, but 80 is still better ;)
04:47:39 <inode0> if they are engaged and informed, yes :)
04:47:50 <FranciscoD> i think its time to bring up another Ambassador survey
04:47:56 * FranciscoD needs to get a little less lazy
04:48:01 <arifiauo> I think we still have to vote for candidates from APAC, although later there is no obligation to support his election.
04:48:10 <inode0> but remember this election will be open to CLA+1 voters, not just ambassadors
04:48:26 <FranciscoD> inode0: aye, but candidates are ambassadors, right?
04:48:30 <FranciscoD> for famsco?
04:48:30 <inode0> yes
04:48:45 <FranciscoD> great, so everyone needs to know what ambassadors have been upto
04:49:10 <bckurera> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_rules
04:49:10 <FranciscoD> arifiauo: I disagree. We should not select candidates. Anyone who wants to step up, should give it a try.
04:49:19 <inode0> so questionnaires and townhalls were intended to help with this education effort
04:49:19 * harish back at the keyboard
04:49:29 <FranciscoD> Selecting candidates also goes down the political party system
04:49:31 <bckurera> welcome harish
04:49:40 <bckurera> #chair harish
04:49:40 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi MarkDude MavJS arifiauo bckurera harish kaio_ph zerng07
04:49:44 <FranciscoD> and like I said, I'm not going into that direction, at all, at any time.
04:49:46 <inode0> but sadly not many contributors seem interested in them
04:49:57 <FranciscoD> inode0: I'll try to change that
04:50:08 <arifiauo> Then we give the opportunity now.
04:50:23 <FranciscoD> arifiauo: folks step up, when voting comes, you vote
04:50:40 <arifiauo> Anyone who wants to step up?
04:50:42 * inode0 is looking for a volunteer to coordinate the questionnaires this election btw :)
04:50:44 <FranciscoD> yes
04:50:53 * KageSenshi points inode0 to FranciscoD
04:51:07 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi is really bent on getting me work eh? :P
04:51:13 <KageSenshi> :P
04:51:20 <FranciscoD> inode0: but yes, I am interested in helping out :)
04:51:25 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: there, happy? :P
04:51:32 <KageSenshi> hehe :P
04:51:41 * inode0 is happy
04:51:57 <bckurera> KageSenshi +1 more work to FranciscoD :)
04:52:03 <FranciscoD> inode0: should I drop you a mail or something? /me doesnt know where to get started :)
04:52:11 <inode0> go and ask some good questions for famsco candidates now :)
04:52:14 <KageSenshi> bckurera, xD
04:52:20 <FranciscoD> I thought you people were my friends bckurera KageSenshi :P
04:52:30 <inode0> FranciscoD: I'll drop you an email explaining the process
04:52:35 <FranciscoD> inode0: great :)
04:52:45 * MarkDude has FranciscoD 's back XD
04:52:56 <KageSenshi> good friends helps you .. best friends laugh at you ..
04:53:02 <FranciscoD> bckurera: i think we should go to the next topic :P
04:53:05 <KageSenshi> </unquote>
04:53:11 <FranciscoD> KageSenshi: yeah, wait until I get to KL and laugh at you :P
04:53:12 <bckurera> +1
04:53:16 <KageSenshi> :P
04:53:32 <bckurera> #topic APAC Events and Status of F17 Release Parties (dramsey)
04:53:55 <bckurera> We are having a booth today at Apache bar camp in Kandy
04:53:56 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD help co-ordinating questionnaires for elections
04:54:10 <FranciscoD> bckurera: great!
04:54:16 * FranciscoD will wait for the pictures and reports :D
04:54:17 <bckurera> LSD is there at the moment on the booth and I ll be there soon the meeting over !
04:54:33 <bckurera> That is all from me
04:54:45 <arifiauo> !
04:54:46 <bckurera> FranciscoD +1
04:54:53 <bckurera> please arifiauo
04:54:55 <arifiauo> I would like to report about the release party Surakarta.
04:55:10 <FranciscoD> arifiauo: use info tag where required please
04:55:26 <FranciscoD> #info bckurera is having a booth today at Apache bar camp in Kandy
04:55:46 * harish i think i've caught up on the meeting so far. and yes, i will be sending the monies to KageSenshi
04:55:54 <arifiauo> Everything was going according to plan, just waiting for the funds last. Maybe some day, I was able to spread the invitation.
04:56:12 <arifiauo> #info Everything was going according to plan, just waiting for the funds last. Maybe some day, I was able to spread the invitation.
04:56:17 * bckurera thanks harish the request is on https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/26
04:56:40 <FranciscoD> bckurera: if its approved, please make it an info item
04:56:53 <FranciscoD> its good to have minutes with tickets approved, encourages folks
04:57:03 <bckurera> please use the apac-trac for fund requests : arifiauo
04:57:06 <FranciscoD> tiny things, but they make a difference IMO :)
04:57:25 <bckurera> FranciscoD will do it on the topic soon !
04:57:36 <bckurera> any update on this topic?
04:57:40 <zerng07> !
04:57:44 <bckurera> one hour left
04:57:54 <bckurera> zerng07 please
04:58:07 <zerng07> I want to discuss my ticket.
04:58:12 <arifiauo> Tickets have been approved but not yet transferred by harish.
04:58:34 <arifiauo> .famsco #287
04:58:34 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/#287
04:58:54 <zerng07> I have chosen the date and the location.
04:59:07 <FranciscoD> i think arifiauo already has a ticket filed, right arifiauo ?
04:59:07 <FranciscoD> link?
04:59:08 <bckurera> did you produce receipts: arifiauo ?
04:59:09 <zerng07> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/23#comment:12
04:59:48 <bckurera> zerng07 pleas wait a bit till the next topic !
04:59:57 <zerng07> OK.
04:59:57 <arifiauo> bckurera, I did
05:00:12 <bckurera> please ping harish then,
05:00:26 <bckurera> shall we move?
05:00:32 <arifiauo> bckurera, how?
05:01:01 <arifiauo> I've reassign the ticket to him.
05:01:45 <FranciscoD> arifiauo: harish will take a look at it when he finds the time, please be patient, it'll be done.
05:01:50 <FranciscoD> bckurera: next?
05:01:57 <bckurera> agree
05:02:01 <arifiauo> yes
05:02:07 <bckurera> #topic Review APAC trac tickets
05:02:25 <bckurera> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/report/9
05:02:53 <bckurera> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/23
05:03:05 <bckurera> your turn zerng07
05:03:12 <zerng07> Thanks!
05:03:39 <zerng07> The news is that I chose 6/3 (Sun).
05:04:01 <zerng07> and decided the place in Black Cat Moon Snake Coffee.
05:04:21 <zerng07> Hope it be approved.
05:05:16 <bckurera> zerng07 your total amount?
05:05:25 <bckurera> 170 USD?
05:05:27 <zerng07> 170USD.
05:05:30 <zerng07> yes.
05:05:33 <bckurera> ok thanks
05:05:51 <FranciscoD> bckurera: funding tickets -> action items for harish please :)
05:06:03 <bckurera> shall we consider this ticket and mark it agreed?
05:06:35 <bckurera> FranciscoD : you mean the arifiauo ticket?
05:06:51 <arifiauo> zerng07 ticket
05:06:59 <harish> arifiauo, ticket paid. please check.
05:07:09 <bckurera> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/23
05:07:13 <FranciscoD|work> bckurera: eventually, all funding tickets need harish to take a look :)
05:08:24 <bckurera> FranciscoD|work : yes, but we (with harish) had a long discussion about this ticket in a meeting so I think this is time to make it approve !
05:08:33 <bckurera> harish what you think?
05:08:59 <harish> for #23?
05:09:11 <bckurera> yes
05:09:34 <harish> that is a go ahead.
05:09:51 <bckurera> any other comment from others?
05:09:55 <harish> i've gotten red hat taiwan to contact zerng07 and i think it is all in order.
05:10:00 <zerng07> Yes.
05:10:21 <zerng07> They provided me a place option.
05:10:47 <zerng07> listed in the latest comment.
05:10:48 <bckurera> shall we mark the ticket as agreed, then ?
05:10:50 <arifiauo> harish, the ticket amount is 53USD
05:11:24 <harish> arifiauo, i am looking at the RP450K and doing the conversion from that.
05:11:32 <zerng07> harish, thanks for your help!
05:11:37 <harish> the RP450K is what I will be filing into RH finance.
05:11:57 <zerng07> I am appreciated.
05:11:57 <harish> and the exchange rate is what is on the day I pay - today - between RP and USD
05:12:22 <harish> on oanda.com which is the reference used
05:12:49 <arifiauo> harish, please refer to paypay currency converter
05:13:29 <arifiauo> #link https://www.paypal.com/id/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_convert-currency-withdrawal
05:13:58 <arifiauo> 1 USD = 8953 IDR
05:14:09 <harish> RH Finance does not use that. they use oanda.com.
05:14:58 <harish> http://www.oanda.com/currency/converter/
05:15:25 <arifiauo> so how to resolve my lack funds?
05:15:51 <harish> i am reimbursing the 450K in the receipt right? is there anything else other than that?
05:16:00 <harish> what lack of funds are you referring to?
05:16:08 <bckurera> I think we are running time, shall we take a decision
05:16:27 <bckurera> shall I mark ticket #23 as #approved?
05:16:41 <bckurera> harish I think you are ok with it?
05:16:46 <harish> yes, approved #23
05:16:50 <bckurera> thanks
05:17:06 <zerng07> thanks!
05:17:13 <bckurera> #agreed Ticket #23 funding for Taiwan F17 release party
05:17:16 <zerng07> eof
05:17:24 <bckurera> any other business before move?
05:17:46 <bckurera> #topic Regulating regional tracs
05:17:59 <bckurera> I have contacted the Fedora-infra and the reply is
05:18:23 <bckurera> <quote>"the ideal thing here is make it read-only, then add info to header/footer that it's read-only and to refer to the apac trac?</quote>
05:18:32 <FranciscoD> bckurera: great! :D
05:18:38 <FranciscoD> that solves it for us I think? :)
05:18:53 <bckurera> I am agree with above solution and what about others
05:19:00 <bckurera> can we mark it agreed?
05:19:10 <FranciscoD> yes, we already discussed this last week bckurera
05:19:20 <FranciscoD> the only thing remaining was to ask infra, which you've done :)
05:19:32 <bckurera> great, now we have the agreement, I ll update the infra then
05:19:38 <FranciscoD> please update the trac ticket too :)
05:19:58 <bckurera> #agreed make apac-india read-only, then add info to header/footer that it's read-only and to refer to the apac trac.
05:20:09 <harish> +1 to that
05:20:25 <bckurera> #action bckurera update infra about the regional trac and close the business
05:20:32 <bckurera> thanks folks
05:20:38 <bckurera> we will move to open floor
05:20:44 <bckurera> #topic open Floor
05:20:53 <bckurera> any thing to share?
05:20:56 <FranciscoD> we're past an hour again, so lets close meeting
05:21:01 * FranciscoD has nothing
05:21:28 <harish> !
05:21:43 <bckurera> please harish
05:22:03 <harish> anyone still waiting for air tickets/letters for visa for FUDCon KL?
05:22:24 <FranciscoD> harish: i think admimania was,
05:22:28 <FranciscoD> .fas adimania
05:22:29 <zodbot> FranciscoD: adimania 'Aditya Patawari' <adimania@gmail.com>
05:22:41 <harish> he should have received it.
05:22:48 <FranciscoD> Alright, great.
05:22:50 <bckurera> sounds like an #info
05:23:03 <FranciscoD> He had talked to us a few days back. We had asked him to ping you.
05:23:07 <harish> !
05:23:18 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD ask adimania to confirm he has received tickets
05:23:20 <KageSenshi> MavJS, can you ping all applicants using their non @fp.o addresses to check whether they've received their tickets
05:23:24 <FranciscoD> harish: all yours :)
05:23:32 <MavJS> KageSenshi: sure.
05:23:45 <FranciscoD> #action MavJS, can you ping all applicants using their non @fp.o addresses to check whether they've received their tickets
05:23:51 <harish> for the video that you are making about trac etc, do indicate there that the exchange rate being used is via oanda.com not anything else.
05:24:15 <bckurera> sure harish I m making it for FUDcon :)
05:24:17 <FranciscoD> #info for the video that you are making about trac etc, do indicate there that the exchange rate being used is via oanda.com not anything else.
05:24:29 <bckurera> we can promote it there, i ll keep it in my mind !
05:24:46 <bckurera> That is all for today then?
05:24:51 <harish> i think so.
05:25:05 <bckurera> Thanks for all your support, we had a nice meeting, see you at the next meeting on next Saturday !
05:25:21 <bckurera> FranciscoDare you posting minutes?
05:25:48 <harish> one last thing
05:25:53 <bckurera> please
05:25:55 <KageSenshi> #info those who are attending fudcon kl, dont forget to post this http://fedora.my/events/fudconkl2012/docs/going-to-fudconkl.png to your blog/facebook/twitter/googleplus/wherever :D
05:26:09 <harish> i've preupgraded my f16 to f17! fyi. and all works  - so far.
05:26:39 <harish> and it is my main work machine.
05:26:42 <bckurera> ok that is cool
05:27:01 <zerng07> cool!
05:27:03 <harish> "yum update all; yum install preupgrade; preupgrade"
05:27:15 * inode0 thanks FranciscoD for helping with the elections before you all leave
05:27:35 <bckurera> bTW Please refer to changed rules on FAmSCo election as well
05:27:37 <bckurera> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_rules
05:27:43 <bckurera> I think we can end the meeting?
05:28:09 <harish> +1
05:28:27 <bckurera> we had a very successful meeting today thanks for it
05:28:31 <bckurera> we are closing
05:28:33 <bckurera> 3
05:28:35 <bckurera> 2
05:28:36 <bckurera> 1
05:28:38 <bckurera> 0.5
05:28:50 <bckurera> thanks for every one have a nice weekend
05:28:54 <bckurera> #endmeeting