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04:00:43 <dramsey> #meetingname APAC
04:00:43 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'apac'
04:00:51 <dramsey> #chair bckurera udinnet
04:00:51 <zodbot> Current chairs: bckurera dramsey udinnet
04:01:00 <bckurera> .fas bckurera
04:01:01 <zodbot> bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' <bckurera@gmail.com>
04:01:06 <dramsey> #chair jurank_dankkal
04:01:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: bckurera dramsey jurank_dankkal udinnet
04:01:14 <dramsey> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-04-21#Agenda
04:01:18 <ekoikhyar> .fas ekoikhyar
04:01:19 <zodbot> ekoikhyar: ekoikhyar 'eko ikhyar' <ikhyar.com@gmail.com>
04:01:21 <dramsey> #topic Ambassador Pinging
04:01:25 <udinnet> .fas udinnet
04:01:29 <zodbot> udinnet: udinnet 'Uditha Bandara Wijerathna' <udithabnd@gmail.com>
04:01:38 <dramsey> #chair ekoikhyar
04:01:38 <zodbot> Current chairs: bckurera dramsey ekoikhyar jurank_dankkal udinnet
04:01:42 <dramsey> .fas dramsey
04:01:43 <zodbot> dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' <diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com>
04:01:57 <dramsey> My name is dramsey,  from Japan and I use Fedora 16 from a DVD and Fedora 17 from an .ISO.  I  like System Administration Topics as well as Kernels."
04:02:18 <VICODANAX> "Hi dramsey"
04:02:25 <dramsey> Buddhike, do next?  :)
04:02:29 <dramsey> Hello VICONDANAX
04:02:34 <ekoikhyar> hai all
04:02:54 <udinnet> hi ekoikhyar
04:03:15 <dramsey> #chair VICODANAX
04:03:15 <zodbot> Current chairs: VICODANAX bckurera dramsey ekoikhyar jurank_dankkal udinnet
04:03:21 <dramsey> Next topic?
04:03:26 <udinnet> +1
04:03:28 <VICODANAX> aww i feel special
04:03:31 <dramsey> #topic Review *ACTION* items from the last meeting
04:03:33 <VICODANAX> VICODAN*
04:03:42 <VICODAN_> .fas VICODAN
04:03:43 <zodbot> VICODAN_: vicodan '' <dan.mashal@gmail.com>
04:04:05 <bckurera> dramsey ok :)
04:04:11 <dramsey> bckurera, what do you think about the Action items?
04:04:12 <bckurera> action item #1 : FranciscoD mail relevant folks with survey ideas
04:04:30 <VICODAN_> so what I can offer this meeting off hand, I'd like to say I contacted timbuk2 about fudcon in June and I'm waiting a reply. Have not received one.
04:04:36 <bckurera> we can take actions items which are not marked and owner is present
04:04:48 <bckurera> I dont see FranciscoD
04:04:57 <bckurera> therefore will add it again
04:04:57 <VICODAN_> he's not here
04:04:59 <zerng07> .fas
04:04:59 <zodbot> zerng07: (fas <query>) -- Search the Fedora Account System usernames, full names, and email addresses for a match.
04:05:01 <udinnet> that is good bckurera
04:05:03 <dramsey> +1 Buddhike
04:05:10 <zerng07> .fas zerng07
04:05:11 <zodbot> zerng07: zerng07 'Cheng-Chia Tseng' <pswo10680@gmail.com>
04:05:11 <bckurera> #action FranciscoD mail relevant folks with survey ideas
04:05:19 <dramsey> #chair zerng07
04:05:19 <zodbot> Current chairs: VICODANAX bckurera dramsey ekoikhyar jurank_dankkal udinnet zerng07
04:05:33 <bckurera> Action Item #2: bckurera add more ideas into things need to be discussed f2f at FUDCon KL
04:05:40 <bckurera> my action items are pending yet, my bad
04:05:46 <bckurera> I ll finish them with in this week
04:05:46 <udinnet> :)
04:05:47 <dramsey> No problem.
04:05:51 <bckurera> #action bckurera add more ideas into things need to be discussed f2f at FUDCon KL
04:06:00 <bckurera> #action bckurera to work on video to elaborate the importance of apac-trac
04:06:03 <VICODAN_> lol
04:06:09 <bckurera> #action bckurera talk to infra about -india trac situation
04:06:17 <VICODAN_> bckurera did you have breakfast yet?
04:06:42 <bckurera> VICODAN_ that is the only AI, I have complete for this meeting :)
04:07:00 <bckurera> what about tuans' AI
04:07:02 <bckurera> tuanta Reorganize items page for face2face discussion at KL
04:07:03 * VICODAN_ puts bckurera in time out
04:07:05 <bckurera> any news?
04:07:29 <VICODAN_> waiting on response
04:07:34 <VICODAN_> for fudcon june
04:07:55 <dramsey> How about #9?
04:08:03 <VICODAN_> over 9,000
04:08:07 <dramsey> VICODAN_ which FUDCon is in June?
04:08:16 <bckurera> Action Item #9 : all think of amount of buttons that should be produced under famsco budget, get back in next meeting
04:08:20 <VICODAN_> APAC
04:08:21 <bckurera> any news on this?
04:08:45 <VICODAN_> sorry
04:08:48 <dramsey> I do not know timbuk2
04:08:52 <VICODAN_> that's in may
04:09:03 <VICODAN_> bag company
04:09:06 <dramsey> +1 bckurera
04:09:14 <VICODAN_> i proposed this idea
04:09:20 <VICODAN_> they make laptop bags
04:09:25 <VICODAN_> i contacted them on behalf of fedora
04:09:29 <VICODAN_> www.timbuk2.com
04:09:40 <bckurera> VICODAN shall we take your discussion later, we are on a meeting and it is logging !
04:09:57 <bckurera> may be on Open Floor?
04:10:08 <udinnet> shall we move in to the nxt topic ?
04:10:10 <VICODAN_> yes
04:10:15 <bckurera> thanks
04:10:26 <bckurera> Is there any idea on buttons?
04:10:41 <bckurera> I would like to have some fedora buttons
04:10:46 <udinnet> Do you know a button size?
04:10:56 <udinnet> 1.5" or 1"
04:10:58 <VICODAN_> thinking
04:11:02 <bckurera> It says it is produced by FAmSCo
04:11:10 <bckurera> no more info
04:11:47 <udinnet> kaio is not here :(
04:12:29 <udinnet> We should keep that action for next meeting.. IMO
04:12:33 <VICODAN_> i dont know man
04:12:34 <dramsey> Should we make an "inquiry" for kaio at the FAmSCo meeting?
04:12:35 <inode0> ?
04:12:36 <dramsey> +1
04:12:40 <dramsey> Hi inode0
04:12:41 <VICODAN_> i think it's a waste
04:12:44 <dramsey> #chair inode0
04:12:44 <zodbot> Current chairs: VICODANAX bckurera dramsey ekoikhyar inode0 jurank_dankkal udinnet zerng07
04:12:47 <bckurera> #action all think of amount of buttons that should be produced under famsco budget, get back in next meeting
04:12:53 <VICODAN_> either have the blue fedora logo or the beefy miracle character on it
04:13:00 <VICODAN_> as small and cheap as possible
04:13:18 <VICODAN_> 1.5"
04:13:20 <VICODAN_> normal size
04:13:28 <VICODAN_> i would say blue fedora logo
04:13:45 <VICODAN_> with a 17 and the beefy character on the top right
04:13:56 <dramsey> Hi kaio_ph
04:14:00 <dramsey> #chair kaio_ph
04:14:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: VICODANAX bckurera dramsey ekoikhyar inode0 jurank_dankkal kaio_ph udinnet zerng07
04:14:03 <bckurera> we have kaio_ph
04:14:04 <kaio_ph> Him
04:14:09 <udinnet> Just in time XD
04:14:21 <kaio_ph> Jurank is ambassador now.
04:14:31 <inode0> do you have a button vendor? NA is about to make some buttons too.
04:14:35 <VICODAN_> check these out
04:14:36 <VICODAN_> http://www.custompins.com/homepage_update/corporate-gallery.htm
04:14:41 <inode0> http://inode0.fedorapeople.org/swag/fedora-buttons.jpg
04:14:56 <VICODAN_> oh that is perfect
04:14:58 <inode0> we might be able to help
04:14:59 <VICODAN_> do want
04:15:09 <udinnet> inode0: that looks really cool :)
04:15:27 <bckurera> Udinnet : In Sri Lanka button is around USD 0.5
04:15:47 <jurank_dankkal> kaio_ph: thx kaio for ur helping n trust me..
04:16:04 <dramsey> +1 for ideas
04:16:06 <jurank_dankkal> hope me can do my best for ambassador
04:16:12 <dramsey> ?
04:16:22 <udinnet> bckurera: That is good.
04:16:30 <bckurera> please dramsey
04:16:32 <dramsey> kaio_ph, do you know about "all think of amount of buttons that should be produced under famsco budget, get back in next meeting" Action Item?
04:16:34 <dramsey> eof
04:16:41 <VICODAN_> .50 for how many?
04:16:51 <VICODAN_> i mean how many do you plan to have made?
04:17:00 <jurank_dankkal> so u guys will bring button to fudcon kl?
04:17:07 <kaio_ph> I trust who kagesensei trusts.
04:17:08 <udinnet> inode0: is there a confirmed price for a button in NA?
04:17:39 <inode0> we pay around 22-23 cents apiece
04:18:15 <inode0> I'm not sure how easy it would be to haul them from here to FUDCon, but we could check
04:18:45 <udinnet> bckurera: since kaio_ph is here. We can have some idea regarding the button making?
04:19:21 <bckurera> kaio_ph is there any plan form FAmSCo side about making buttons?
04:19:38 <kaio_ph> No hehe.
04:20:17 <kaio_ph> FAmSCo relies on local ambassadors vision.
04:20:34 <bckurera> kaio_ph then the Action Item seems useless !
04:20:55 <kaio_ph> This is different from region to region.
04:21:28 <kaio_ph> Sth like apac it is not easy to bring swags through customs.
04:21:37 <udinnet> Ok so we have to have a plan. If we produce buttons outside of MY some one have to take them to the FUDCon.
04:22:01 <dramsey> ?
04:22:09 <bckurera> please dramsey
04:22:28 <dramsey> Should we have an "inquiry" / "action" between FUDCon organizers and FAmSCo ?
04:22:29 <dramsey> eof
04:23:42 <dramsey> Additionally, as well as APAC FAms "inquiry"  ?  eof
04:23:57 <bckurera> dramsey I think the action iteam is misleading and not accurate?
04:24:18 <bckurera> Another thing is why FUDcon my is related here?
04:24:21 <bckurera> I am confused
04:24:32 <kaio_ph> I personally suggest u manufacture in MY
04:24:34 <dramsey> +1
04:24:54 <dramsey> ?
04:24:57 <udinnet> kaio_ph: +1 here
04:25:08 <bckurera> VICODAN_ is from USA so why MY here?
04:26:18 <bckurera> Shall we bring this producing button question to the mailing list?
04:26:44 <udinnet> ok we'll keep the action item for next meeting. KageSenshi may be provide us a good idea :)
04:26:55 <dramsey> +1
04:27:09 <bckurera> ok i ll add it then
04:27:20 <bckurera> #action all think of amount of buttons that should be produced under famsco budget, get back in next meeting
04:27:26 <bckurera> next topic?
04:27:26 <dramsey> May be next topic due to this action item.  My question - Is there a "budget" / "quantity" request via FAmSCo for buttons? eof
04:27:26 <udinnet> nxt topic then?
04:27:30 <dramsey> +1 Buddhike
04:27:36 <dramsey> +1 udinnet
04:27:56 <bckurera> dramsey it depends on the amount
04:28:03 <dramsey> True.
04:28:05 <bckurera> AFAIK there is no such request
04:28:06 <dramsey> Next topic?
04:28:11 <dramsey> Okay
04:28:16 <dramsey> Move forward
04:28:20 <bckurera> #topic APAC Events and Status of F17 Release Parties (dramsey)
04:28:20 <udinnet> +1
04:28:36 <zerng07> +1
04:28:43 <dramsey> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY13_Q1_.28March_2012_-_May_2012.29_4
04:28:50 <dramsey> For Fedora Events this quarter
04:28:57 <dramsey> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events
04:29:08 <dramsey> above link is for your Fedora 17 Release Events
04:29:19 <dramsey> #link http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-ambassadors-tasks.html
04:29:30 <dramsey> above link is for your Fedora 17 Ambassadors Team Tasks
04:29:33 <bckurera> any idea?
04:29:41 <bckurera> sorry dramsey
04:29:55 <dramsey> No probs., bckurera, we move forward
04:30:02 <dramsey> #chair FranciscoD
04:30:02 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD VICODANAX bckurera dramsey ekoikhyar inode0 jurank_dankkal kaio_ph udinnet zerng07
04:30:05 <dramsey> Hi FranciscoD
04:30:06 * FranciscoD is here
04:30:13 <udinnet> here comes FranciscoD
04:30:16 <bckurera> hello FranciscoD welcome
04:30:36 <dramsey> ?
04:30:38 * harish at the keyboard; read the chats
04:30:44 <dramsey> #chair harish
04:30:44 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD VICODANAX bckurera dramsey ekoikhyar harish inode0 jurank_dankkal kaio_ph udinnet zerng07
04:30:47 <dramsey> Hi Harish
04:30:51 <harish> dramsey, hey
04:30:54 <FranciscoD> hello, sorry I'm late :)
04:30:54 <bckurera> please dramsey
04:30:59 * FranciscoD goes to read up logs
04:31:00 <dramsey> FranciscoD, we are at APAC Events and Status of F17 Release Parties, but do you have any scoop on Survey?
04:31:08 <udinnet> FranciscoD: had a long sleep?
04:31:08 <VICODAN_> hi FranciscoD
04:31:10 <dramsey> thank you FranciscoD and Harish
04:31:11 <dramsey> eof
04:31:16 <VICODAN_> !
04:31:26 <VICODAN_> got something to show you guys
04:31:29 <VICODAN_> re: buttons
04:31:33 <bckurera> please VICODAN_
04:31:46 <VICODAN_> http://i.imgur.com/So0Pc.png
04:32:16 <VICODAN_> $.20 each
04:32:43 <VICODAN_> http://i.imgur.com/TQNAE.png
04:32:46 <FranciscoD> VICODAN_: not during a meeting mate, wait up
04:32:54 <VICODAN_> it's on topic.
04:33:01 <FranciscoD> VICODAN_: no its not
04:33:01 <VICODAN_> you're late; )
04:33:05 <VICODAN_> well it was
04:33:10 <udinnet> +1 FranciscoD
04:33:21 <FranciscoD> VICODAN_: wait your turn, follow protocol
04:33:25 <FranciscoD> this is an apac meeting
04:33:28 <FranciscoD> :)
04:33:32 <VICODAN_> i know
04:33:33 <udinnet> Let's be in the topic for the moment
04:33:40 <VICODAN_> okay move on
04:33:40 <FranciscoD> udinnet: please continue
04:34:06 <zerng07> Hi, I would like to discuss my ticket!
04:34:21 <zerng07> ticket 23.
04:34:43 <zerng07> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/23
04:34:48 <bckurera> reminding we are at #topic APAC Events and Status of F17 Release Parties (dramsey)
04:35:00 <udinnet> +1 bckurera
04:35:13 <bckurera> anything to discuss under the above topic?
04:35:16 <bckurera> or move?
04:35:29 <dramsey> eof, just think for Fedora 17 eof
04:35:46 <dramsey> +1 bckurera
04:35:47 <udinnet> I think move to nxt
04:35:51 <dramsey> +1
04:35:59 <bckurera> #topic Review APAC trac tickets
04:36:11 <bckurera> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/23
04:36:39 <bckurera> since we have harish and zerng07 , we can discuss about this !
04:36:46 <dramsey> +1
04:36:48 <harish> go ahead
04:36:56 <zerng07> the situation is kind of complicated now.
04:37:14 <kaio_ph> +1
04:37:35 <harish> !
04:37:53 <udinnet> zerng07: can you explain a bit?
04:37:56 <zerng07> Please.
04:38:08 <bckurera> please harish
04:38:11 <harish> ok
04:38:25 <harish> looking at the last entry in the ticket, i think zerng07 should just do what
04:38:35 <harish> is needed to make this happen elsewhere
04:38:35 <zerng07> The new date I set is on the same day Ubuntu and Firefox Release Party.
04:38:56 <harish> zerng07, i hate to use this phrase, but "think out of the box".
04:39:13 <harish> it cannot be that there aren't any other places in Taipei that can be used for this?
04:39:32 <harish> "what else, where else can I do this"?
04:39:44 <harish> i need a room, a projector and internet access
04:39:54 <harish> where else can i get these three things?
04:40:00 <bckurera> #chair FranciscoD_
04:40:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ VICODANAX bckurera dramsey ekoikhyar harish inode0 jurank_dankkal kaio_ph udinnet zerng07
04:40:02 <harish> a school?
04:40:03 <dramsey> #chair FranciscoD_
04:40:03 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ VICODANAX bckurera dramsey ekoikhyar harish inode0 jurank_dankkal kaio_ph udinnet zerng07
04:40:06 <zerng07> Em... I have to ask others to search for the place if want to in Taipei.
04:40:07 <harish> a university campus?
04:40:25 <harish> places where students gather?
04:40:28 <harish> starbucks?
04:40:38 <harish> or the equivalent of starbucks perhaps
04:40:51 <zerng07> university campus needs complicated procedures.
04:40:53 * bckurera loves starbucks
04:40:55 <harish> don't get fixated with one problem that is in front of you and go around it.
04:41:04 <harish> then forget the university
04:41:07 <harish> go elsewhere
04:41:19 <harish> isn't the academia sinica available?
04:41:28 <harish> explore out of your comfort zones.
04:41:35 <zerng07> Yeah, I have discussed with those who arranged Firefox and Ubuntu party.
04:41:35 <kaio_ph> Hack it ;)
04:41:56 <harish> join them if you can
04:42:02 <harish> if they are not willing, so be it.
04:42:07 <harish> don't let that stop you.
04:42:16 <zerng07> I don't know academia sinica is available or not, I have to check that.
04:42:29 <zerng07> Yeah.
04:42:30 <harish> zerng07, exactly what you should do.
04:42:47 <harish> i am sure that there are plenty of other places available and am sure they will
04:42:54 <harish> not put issues in front of you.
04:43:02 <harish> my message is this:
04:43:07 <zerng07> I want to set a different time for people who want to attend both be posssible.
04:43:10 <harish> don't let one obstacle upset the plan
04:43:18 <harish> then do that.
04:43:43 <harish> be entrepreneurial
04:44:17 <harish> which university are you in?
04:44:21 * udinnet likes harish's ideas
04:44:30 <zerng07> Chung Shan Medical University.
04:44:30 <dramsey> +1
04:44:58 <harish> ah ok.
04:45:11 <harish> perhaps that is a place that has restrictions so go elsewhere.
04:45:31 <zerng07> I think that the better way is to host at different date.
04:45:37 <harish> look for the taiwan computer society, or the equivalent
04:46:03 <harish> do what you have to, and not be stuck on one issue.
04:46:09 <zerng07> OK.
04:46:11 <harish> work around it
04:47:06 <harish> ok, so please persist. i can ping my colleagues in Red Hat Taiwan for ideas as well.
04:47:10 <zerng07> I want to make sure that is site rental expense in my first propose OK or not?
04:47:34 <zerng07> Good! That will be good.
04:47:48 <zerng07> Be in a coffee shop with a projector?
04:48:07 * bckurera +1
04:48:28 <harish> drop me a note with your cell# to hpillay at redhat dot com and I will see if my Taiwanese colleagues can help out.
04:48:46 <zerng07> OK. Thanks.
04:49:10 <harish> eof i think
04:49:41 <bckurera> Thanks harish for your valued advice
04:49:49 <zerng07> OK, so I will try to select a differnt time or try to get a place for three parties hosted together.
04:50:14 <udinnet> I think this is the only ticket we have for todau
04:50:22 <udinnet> *today
04:50:43 <bckurera> yes this is the only ticket
04:50:53 <bckurera> is there anything else we need to discuss or move?
04:51:15 <udinnet> zerng07: I think you got a really great advice for harish ;)
04:51:28 <zerng07> Yes.
04:51:36 <zerng07> Thanks harish!
04:51:40 <udinnet> I think you can move :)
04:51:43 <harish> zerng07, you are most welcome.
04:51:51 <udinnet> sorry we can move
04:51:53 <udinnet> XD
04:52:07 <udinnet> to the next topic
04:52:21 <dramsey> +1  Great ideas and move forward
04:52:24 <zerng07> +1
04:52:43 <bckurera> #topic Open Floor
04:52:49 <dramsey> ?
04:52:57 <VICODAN_> hi
04:52:58 <bckurera> dramsey please
04:53:02 <dramsey> thank you
04:53:16 <dramsey> Harish, I received an e-mail from a Chris Leonard at the Sugar Labs
04:53:21 <VICODAN_> i made these with bckurera instructions: http://i.imgur.com/1XvN7.png
04:53:24 <bckurera> VICODAN_ after dramsey please
04:53:28 <VICODAN_> k
04:53:37 <dramsey> harish, Mr. Leonard has a OLPC for Danishka Navin
04:53:52 <harish> nice
04:53:59 <dramsey> Thinking out of the box, may be a relay from Red Hat (U.S.) to Singapore.
04:54:05 <dramsey> Should I relay information via e-mail
04:54:07 <dramsey> eof?
04:54:11 <harish> sure
04:54:13 <dramsey> +1
04:54:18 <dramsey> thank you, Harish
04:54:18 <dramsey> eof
04:54:32 <bckurera> VICODAN_ floor is yours
04:54:41 <VICODAN_> hi
04:54:50 <VICODAN_> i made these per bckurera request: http://i.imgur.com/1XvN7.png
04:54:54 <VICODAN_> .20 each for 500
04:55:43 * udinnet thinks it looks nice
04:55:50 <VICODAN_> thanks
04:55:59 <bckurera> VICODAN_ since you are from NA, you need to talk to NA FAms for approval of funds
04:56:11 <FranciscoD_> +1
04:56:12 <bckurera> Talk to inode0
04:56:27 <udinnet> + think about the shipping cost
04:56:27 <VICODAN_> i dont mind donating
04:56:55 <VICODAN_> just send me a tshirt a button and a hat
04:56:58 <VICODAN_> :)
04:57:30 <udinnet> Addition of shipping cost may increase the price of a piece
04:58:02 <udinnet> harish: Thanks for purchasing out the tickets :)
04:58:06 <FranciscoD> +1
04:58:21 * harish thinks that if we can have a 3D printer at FUDCon, we can make those buttons :-)
04:58:23 * FranciscoD is in the process of getting the visa: Will need to head down to Chennai :/
04:58:35 <harish> good that you've gotten the tickets.
04:58:44 <dramsey> :-D
04:58:59 <harish> dramsey, are you planning on attending FUDCon KL?
04:59:07 <FranciscoD> he'd better :P
04:59:22 <dramsey> +1 Harish
04:59:25 <dramsey> eof
04:59:27 <harish> goog
04:59:30 <harish> good
04:59:33 * udinnet just got thr visa
04:59:46 <harish> udinnet, good to know
05:00:04 <udinnet> visa was approved for 3 months :D
05:00:17 <harish> i am organzing the hotel stay to be paid by Red Hat directly.
05:00:17 * FranciscoD is jealous of udinnet
05:00:34 <udinnet> FranciscoD: XD
05:00:54 <VICODAN_> free shipping
05:01:04 <VICODAN_> delivery to my house may 11
05:01:10 <harish> VICODAN, that generally would be within the US
05:01:11 <VICODAN_> 9 business day shipping
05:01:14 <VICODAN_> yes
05:01:23 <FranciscoD> VICODAN_: i fail to understand how this is relevant to APAC :)
05:01:33 <VICODAN_> ...
05:01:37 <FranciscoD> Can you explain why this is being brought up in an APAC meeting?
05:01:46 <FranciscoD> where are you located?
05:01:57 <FranciscoD> NA, right?
05:02:01 <VICODAN_> yes
05:02:27 * harish frankly that does not matter. we are borderless for most things except for those that involve atoms :-)
05:02:27 <bckurera> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings
05:02:32 <FranciscoD> So, you intend to buy these on our behalf and mail them to us?
05:02:40 <VICODAN_> thinking about it.
05:03:07 <FranciscoD> VICODAN_: International courier will really increase the costs. It's why we don't send things around our regions much
05:03:17 <VICODAN_> yeah
05:03:18 <harish> that would be most kind of you VICODAN
05:03:25 <VICODAN_> i understand
05:03:28 <VICODAN_> im in california
05:03:39 <VICODAN_> and i can ship via usps
05:03:44 <FranciscoD> There are also taxes etc to consider
05:03:51 <FranciscoD> It's not simple really
05:03:57 * udinnet needs to go to the breakfast
05:03:59 <VICODAN_> no tax for me
05:04:00 <zerng07> end the meeting?
05:04:06 <dramsey> Thank you, udinnet
05:04:07 <zerng07> end the meeting?
05:04:08 <FranciscoD> I had to pay amost 3k INR when I ordered something from the states
05:04:10 <FranciscoD> :/
05:04:18 <zerng07> Oh...
05:04:20 <FranciscoD> extra, over the cost that is
05:04:20 <udinnet> See you around guys
05:04:24 <VICODAN_> you dont pay taxes on "gifts" or donations.
05:04:26 <FranciscoD> udinnet: have a great day :)
05:04:26 <dramsey> :)
05:04:29 <harish> VICODAN, the tax is borne by someone - sometimes sender, sometimes receiver.
05:04:32 <zerng07> I missed many discussion...
05:04:35 <zerng07> @@
05:04:37 <zerng07> sorry .
05:04:43 <bckurera> FranciscoD VICODAN_ is from USA, so no tax
05:04:47 <FranciscoD> zerng07: its just open floor discussion
05:04:48 <VICODAN_> yessir
05:04:56 <bckurera> is there any business left for today?
05:04:56 <dramsey> zerng07, all our well.  we appreciate you.
05:05:03 <dramsey> ?
05:05:07 <VICODAN_> Total:	$100.00
05:05:07 <VICODAN_> Tax Total:	$0.00
05:05:13 * hanthana is late :(
05:05:13 <VICODAN_> 500 1" buttons
05:05:15 <bckurera> Please dramsey
05:05:18 <FranciscoD> bckurera: i dont trust India, at least
05:05:19 <dramsey> #chair hanthana
05:05:19 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD FranciscoD_ VICODANAX bckurera dramsey ekoikhyar hanthana harish inode0 jurank_dankkal kaio_ph udinnet zerng07
05:05:25 <dramsey> may be recap for hanthana and end meeting? and leave
05:05:25 <FranciscoD> They can charge you for anything ;)
05:05:29 <dramsey> eof
05:05:40 <FranciscoD> VICODAN_: how much will the mailing cost?
05:05:40 <inode0> ideally we could get a volunteer from NA who is traveling to FUDCon APAC to carry a bit of swag along to get free shipping :)
05:05:48 <VICODAN_> i'll have to go to usps and find out
05:05:53 <FranciscoD> inode0: aye, that's a better idea :)
05:05:55 <VICODAN_> depends on the weight
05:05:57 <VICODAN_> and wheer it's going
05:06:00 <VICODAN_> where*
05:06:11 * inode0 has shipped to other FUDCons that way
05:06:12 <dramsey> +1 inode0
05:06:15 <FranciscoD> lets assume theyre coming to KL
05:06:28 <VICODAN_> kauala lampur maylasia?
05:06:30 <FranciscoD> VICODAN_: please find out the shipping costs, and we can discuss this in the next meeting
05:06:33 <FranciscoD> yes
05:06:40 <VICODAN_> sec
05:06:46 <FranciscoD> VICODAN_: please add it to the next meeting's agenda when dramsey announces it
05:06:51 <dramsey> +1 FranciscoD, we need to know KageSenshi's mind
05:06:52 <FranciscoD> on the ambassadors mailing list
05:06:53 <dramsey> +1
05:07:09 <FranciscoD> dramsey: no one says no to goodies ;)
05:07:14 <harish> VICODAN, if you can drop some into the Red Hat Mountain View office, I can have them send it over to me in Singapore and then bring it to FUDCon KL.
05:07:25 <dramsey> +1
05:07:26 <VICODAN_> express mail international is $60
05:07:38 <VICODAN_> i can do that harish
05:07:43 <VICODAN_> mountain view is 15 minutes away.
05:07:53 <FranciscoD> that would be better IMO
05:07:56 <dramsey> +1
05:08:03 <VICODAN_> i would love to pay redhat mv a visit.
05:08:11 <FranciscoD> 60$ shipping on a 100$ order isn't really good IMO
05:08:11 <harish> VICODAN, send me an email please on this.
05:08:27 <VICODAN_> pm sent.
05:08:32 <dramsey> +1
05:08:38 <FranciscoD> harish: someone needs to get an OLPC transported too iirc
05:08:48 <FranciscoD> I think it's been mentioned
05:08:57 <harish> yes
05:09:07 <dramsey> +1
05:09:09 <harish> i'll await the note from dramsey on the olpc
05:09:13 * hanthana saw dramsey mail just now
05:09:16 <FranciscoD> great
05:09:21 <FranciscoD> dramsey: that's an action item for you
05:09:29 <FranciscoD> and theres one for VICODAN_ too
05:09:37 <dramsey> +1 action done 20 minutes ago.  :)
05:09:44 <dramsey> +1 Back to the future.
05:09:46 <FranciscoD> #action VICODAN_ email harish on details about button transport
05:09:49 <FranciscoD> dramsey: XD
05:09:58 <FranciscoD> I have nothing more to discuss
05:10:03 * FranciscoD needs to go out mail freemedia
05:10:05 <dramsey> eof me, too
05:10:10 <harish> +1
05:10:13 <dramsey> +1
05:10:23 <VICODAN_> email sent
05:10:26 <FranciscoD> endmeeting then?
05:10:31 <dramsey> ? end meeting or other thoughts?
05:10:33 <FranciscoD> 5
05:10:36 <dramsey> +1 FranciscoD
05:10:38 <FranciscoD> 4
05:10:41 <dramsey> :)
05:10:44 <FranciscoD> 3
05:10:48 <dramsey> Thank you all for attending today's meeting.  :)
05:10:48 <ekoikhyar> :)
05:10:50 <FranciscoD> 2
05:10:52 <VICODAN_> :)
05:10:55 <FranciscoD> 1.87
05:11:00 <bckurera> VICODAN_ please forward your design to the Design Team before producing them, thanks
05:11:05 <FranciscoD> 0.95
05:11:06 <dramsey> Sending a "Tasty Curry Miracle" to you all.  :D
05:11:12 <bckurera> shall we finish them meeting then
05:11:12 <FranciscoD> 0.1
05:11:14 <VICODAN_> tandoori chicken!
05:11:16 <dramsey> +1
05:11:19 <FranciscoD> #endmeeting