15:03:00 <jreznik> #startmeeting kde-sig -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/Meetings/2012-03-13
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15:03:09 <jreznik> #meetingname kde-sig
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15:03:20 <jreznik> #topic Roll Call
15:03:25 * rnovacek is here
15:03:30 <rdieter> party! oh, just a boring meeting.
15:03:48 <Kevin_Kofler> Present.
15:03:58 <jreznik> #action let's have a party!
15:04:06 * than is present
15:04:50 <jreznik> ltinkl will probably skip the meeting, he has to take care about his child this week...
15:05:36 <jreznik> #info jreznik rnovacek rdieter Kevin_Kofler than present
15:05:44 <jreznik> #chair rnovacek rdieter Kevin_Kofler than
15:05:44 <zodbot> Current chairs: Kevin_Kofler jreznik rdieter rnovacek than
15:05:53 <jreznik> #topic Agenda
15:08:06 <jreznik> anything to add to agenda?
15:08:11 <Kevin_Kofler> 4.8.1
15:09:10 <rdieter> already there
15:10:21 <jreznik> for firstboot theming - no news, trying to reach mgracik, still no pong from him, I'll continue poking
15:11:34 <Kevin_Kofler> Maybe systemd shutdown/restart/user switching support, but we already covered it on #fedora-kde pretty much.
15:12:03 <Kevin_Kofler> (FYI, I committed some fixes which I hope will make at least shutdown/restart work, build for Rawhide now running, no F17 build yet.)
15:12:03 <jreznik> but makes sense to have at least log and status for folks
15:13:07 <jreznik> so let's start, we can add more agenda on the fly
15:13:16 <jreznik> #topic 4.8.1 status
15:13:18 <rdieter> Kevin_Kofler: I'll test here in a jiffy locally
15:14:52 <jreznik> for me, both 4.8.1 on f16/f17 seems like working without any issues
15:15:33 <Kevin_Kofler> What's up with the smooth-tasks rebuild/fix?
15:15:50 <rdieter> I think rnovacek is working to update that to the fork that works/builds
15:16:01 <rnovacek> Kevin_Kofler: it's done, I rebased it with smooth-tasks-fork
15:16:11 <rnovacek> seems to be working so far
15:16:29 <Kevin_Kofler> We'll also want to pull in kdelibs-4.8.1-2 for the Nepomuk crash fix, if it works.
15:16:38 <rdieter> #info rnovacek rebased smooth-tasks to use smooth-tasks-fork
15:16:58 <rdieter> #info rdieter put kdelibs-4.8.1-2 build into kde-testing repo for feedback
15:17:11 <rdieter> I tested kmail + kdelibs-4.8.1-2 a bit this morning.  so far so good.
15:17:37 <rdieter> only bad thing I noticed is that the kmail account wizard ... lacked magic and didn't work.
15:17:48 <rdieter> I had to configure imap/smtp accounts by hand
15:18:23 <Kevin_Kofler> Oh krap! ;-)
15:18:53 <Kevin_Kofler> Why does kdepim always have to break SOMETHING? :-(
15:18:59 <rdieter> was going to wait to see if I could reproduce on my f16 before filing any bugs, but if others can test that...
15:20:00 <rdieter> in short, I enter my email address, account password, click next... and "finish" button appears, but nothing actually happens, as far as I could tell (tried 3 times, before doing it all manually)
15:20:32 <rdieter> was trying to configure for gmail/imap, if that matters.
15:21:42 <Kevin_Kofler> #info GwenviewPart/Ark issue was finally addressed upstream, already in our latest batch in updates-testing.
15:21:56 <Kevin_Kofler> Anything else about 4.8.1?
15:22:04 <rdieter> yay, thanks for testing that one (I hadn't yet)
15:22:34 <rdieter> fyi, for better or worse, I queue'd the f17/kde-4.8.1 update for stable yesterday.
15:22:37 <jreznik> for how long we want to have it in testing? if no other issues appers
15:22:45 <jreznik> rdieter: +1
15:22:45 <Kevin_Kofler> I didn't test it, but IIRC nucleo did.
15:22:47 <rdieter> f16 one is still in -testing of course.
15:23:39 <nucleo> Ark preview works with gwenview-4.8.1-2.fc16.i686
15:23:46 <rdieter> so, new f17/kde-4.8.1 related builds no will soon no longer need f17-kde koji tag/target (I'll remove it soon)
15:23:51 <Kevin_Kofler> nucleo: Right, thanks for testing!
15:23:59 <rdieter> and f17 updates can be filed separately.
15:24:03 <Kevin_Kofler> For F16, I'd say get the kdelibs fix and the smooth-tasks rebuild in, then push to stable, we have prereq karma (+2) already.
15:24:28 <rdieter> sounds like a plan
15:24:39 <rdieter> maybe another day or 2 of testing, but yeah
15:25:04 <rdieter> I'd be uncomfortable lobbing a largely untested kdelibs-4.8.1-2 into stable right away
15:25:19 <jreznik> #info nucleo confirmed gwenview fix
15:25:50 <jreznik> #info f17/kde4.8.1 queued for stable, f17-kde build will be removed soon
15:26:14 <Kevin_Kofler> OK, next topic?
15:26:22 <jreznik> #info f16/kde4.8.1  still in updates-testing
15:26:38 <jreznik> #topic systemd shutdown/restart/user switching support
15:26:52 <jreznik> Kevin_Kofler: if you could recap the current status for meeting logs...
15:27:24 <Kevin_Kofler> OK, so I wrote a patch, the first 2 iterations didn't compile, now it compiles, but it didn't work. ;-) I think I should have at least the easy and most important part (shutdown/restart) working now.
15:27:34 <Kevin_Kofler> But it's pending testing.
15:28:10 <Kevin_Kofler> User switching is much more complex, there might still be bugs left in there.
15:28:29 * rdieter will test new patch, as soon as meeting is over and I can restart my kde session here
15:28:47 <than> Kevin_Kofler: is the package with the patch built in koji?
15:28:55 * rdieter thinks only a rawhide build so far
15:28:56 <Kevin_Kofler> It's building for Rawhide now.
15:29:05 <jreznik> #info shutdown/restart should be working with latest iteration of code, user switching is more complex
15:29:15 <Kevin_Kofler> (There's another Rawhide build from yesterday, but that one didn't work. ;-) )
15:29:29 <jreznik> #action to test the latest kde/systemd code
15:29:52 <than> Kevin_Kofler: i will test it later today
15:30:27 <rdieter> to test, use gdm loginmanager to log into kde, and see if leave -> shutdown/restart menu items are present and work
15:31:51 <jreznik> #info  to test, use gdm loginmanager to log into kde, and see if leave -> shutdown/restart menu items are present and work
15:32:14 <Kevin_Kofler> FYI, I'm planning to put the patch on KDE ReviewBoard once it's confirmed working. (I hope we can get the user switching support to work too.)
15:32:45 <Kevin_Kofler> Then we'll see if it passes the ossi test. ;-)
15:33:47 <jreznik> Kevin_Kofler: good luck!
15:34:37 <than> Kevin_Kofler: have fun with Oswald :)
15:35:03 <Kevin_Kofler> He always finds something to complain about in submitted patches, so I'm sure this will be no exception.
15:35:20 * rdieter volunteers to be sacrificial middle-man, if needed.
15:35:58 <Kevin_Kofler> Next topic?
15:36:20 <jreznik> how's the systemd support in lightdm?
15:37:22 <rdieter> good question, though I'd guess it doesn't have much integration yet
15:37:23 <Kevin_Kofler> On the DM side, none should be needed, there's none in KDM either and the systemd developers say the PAM module should be sufficient.
15:37:49 <Kevin_Kofler> On the session side, the same shutdown/restart code used with GDM is also used with LightDM.
15:38:04 <Kevin_Kofler> (I think user switching is different though.)
15:38:04 <jreznik> ok
15:38:14 * rdieter has to step away for a bit (sorry)
15:38:39 <Kevin_Kofler> So I don't think there's anything in particular to do for LightDM.
15:38:42 <jreznik> rdieter: ok, np - not sure we have more to talk about
15:39:00 <Kevin_Kofler> Yeah, I think we're out of topics anyway. :-)
15:40:04 <kalev> hello, I have a topic
15:40:14 <kalev> I don't have time to maintain PySide packages anymore
15:40:14 <Kevin_Kofler> Yes?
15:40:21 <kalev> would someone be willing to pick them up?
15:40:26 <jreznik> kalev: I can do it
15:40:39 * jreznik is interested in pyside and uses it sometimes
15:40:47 <kalev> ok, I'll orphan them in pkgdb then, thanks
15:41:03 <jreznik> btw lightdm kde seems like still enhancing http://www.sharpley.org.uk/blog/an-update-on-lightdm-kde
15:44:09 <Kevin_Kofler> Anything else?
15:44:18 <Kevin_Kofler> I guess we can close the meeting here…
15:44:44 <jreznik> #topic open floor
15:49:25 <jreznik> so now topics, let's close it :) thanks guys
15:49:29 <jreznik> #endmeeting