04:00:01 <tuanta> #startmeeting
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04:00:09 <tuanta> #meetingname APAC
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04:00:09 <dramsey> +1 Tuan
04:00:13 <dramsey> .fas dramsey
04:00:14 <zodbot> dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' <diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com>
04:00:14 <KageSenshi> .fas izhar
04:00:18 <zodbot> KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' <kagesenshi.87@gmail.com>
04:00:21 <tuanta> #topic Ambassador Pinging
04:00:22 <Suresh> .fas suresht
04:00:23 <zodbot> Suresh: suresht 'Sureshkumar Packiyarajah' <sureshp8@gmail.com>
04:00:27 <tuanta> .fas tuanta
04:00:31 <udinnet> .fas udinnet
04:00:31 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
04:00:35 <zodbot> udinnet: udinnet 'Uditha Bandara Wijerathna' <udithabnd@gmail.com>
04:00:38 <dramsey> My name is dramsey, from Japan and I use Fedora 15 from a DVD and Fedora 16 from an .ISO.
04:01:07 <tuanta> #chair dramsey KageSenshi Suresh udinnet
04:01:07 <zodbot> Current chairs: KageSenshi Suresh dramsey tuanta udinnet
04:01:16 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-01-21#Agenda
04:01:27 <Suresh> it's uresh from lk and I use Fedora 16 from a DVD
04:01:47 <tuanta> My name is Tuan, from Vietnam; I use Fedora 16
04:02:02 <KageSenshi> izhar here from .MY and i believe all of us who attend today's meeting already know each other :P
04:02:22 <udinnet> I'm Uditha from Sri Lanka. Using F16 from DVD
04:02:25 <Suresh> KageSenshi: D
04:02:26 <tuanta> what does "from a DVD" mean, dramsey and Suresh?
04:02:30 <dramsey> :)
04:02:37 <tuanta> and udinnet :)
04:02:47 <dramsey> Boot and load = my DVD writing.
04:02:51 <dramsey> Good quesiton
04:02:57 <Suresh> live cd and DVD means fully installed ;)
04:02:57 <udinnet> +1 dramsey
04:02:58 <dramsey> s/iton/tion
04:02:59 <udinnet> XD
04:03:01 <tuanta> I installed Fedora 16 permanently to my laptop :)
04:03:44 <Suresh> agenda???
04:03:44 <dramsey> I do some of the Fedora nightly builds especially for F17 and try out different kernels
04:03:55 <dramsey> Next topic?
04:04:02 <KageSenshi> yep
04:04:11 <Suresh> yes
04:04:18 <tuanta> #topic News from FAmSCo
04:04:51 <tuanta> I just see FAmSCo released the montly report
04:05:01 <dramsey> +1 Tuan
04:05:24 <tuanta> no more news :)
04:05:35 <Suresh> kaio is here?
04:05:46 <tuanta> we should have a FAmSCo attend
04:06:09 <KageSenshi> #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/famsco/2011-January/000566.html famsco monthly report from 11th jan
04:06:22 <tuanta> a lot of FAmSCo members live in APAC now; but no one join to this APAC meeting!
04:06:26 <KageSenshi> eh wrong page
04:06:27 <KageSenshi> #undo
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04:07:04 <udinnet> very true tuanta
04:07:18 <tuanta> I don't really know what they are doing
04:07:40 <Suresh> tuanta: it's true.
04:07:43 <udinnet> Maybe busy with their career
04:07:48 <tuanta> I believe it would be much better if FAmSCo attend regional meetings
04:07:55 <Suresh> we need to have at lease one of them.
04:08:13 <tuanta> :(
04:08:15 <tuanta> so next?
04:08:20 <udinnet> yep
04:08:27 <tuanta> #topic Review *ACTION* items from the last meeting
04:10:01 <udinnet> bckurera is not here today
04:10:07 <tuanta> I have got to pending actions:
04:10:13 <tuanta> 1. revisit ACTION: tuanta: submit a question on the ambassador mailing list to ask about Fedora 16 release dinners
04:10:18 <tuanta> that has been done.
04:10:29 <tuanta> and 2. revisit ACTION: tuanta raise the chicken/egg situation in mentoring
04:10:30 <tuanta> done too
04:11:21 <tuanta> my first one, I posted a question onto the ams list; the answer seems: there is no more Fedora dinners
04:11:58 <dramsey> For me, the food makes the event
04:12:38 <tuanta> and the second one: I decided to ask a favor from Heherson (an approved mentor)
04:12:43 <Suresh> .ticket 12
04:12:48 <zodbot> Suresh: #12 (db1 upgrade) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/12
04:12:53 <Suresh> it will be closed
04:13:33 <Suresh> final one was ACTION: #112 bckurera ships swag soon as possible
04:13:45 <udinnet> I think FanciscoD is not around too. So we've to move the action items to the next meeting
04:13:47 <Suresh> any update about this???
04:13:49 <tuanta> +1 dramsey; I personally love "the dinners" idea; that's another opportunity for organizers to summarize things and have improvement next times
04:14:37 <udinnet> Suresh: I thought bckurera will be here today. Will move that action to the next meeting
04:14:48 <Suresh> udinnet: it;s not FanciscoD Agenda
04:15:02 <Suresh> ok go on
04:15:30 <udinnet> #action bckurera ships swag soon as possible
04:16:04 <udinnet> We can move on -- > :)
04:16:20 <dramsey> More forward
04:16:24 <dramsey> s/re/ve
04:16:35 <Suresh> yes
04:16:38 <tuanta> how about this action "all -> please give input on FUDCon 12 Malaysia bid document"
04:16:51 <tuanta> ?
04:16:51 <KageSenshi> erm
04:17:04 <KageSenshi> its already submitted for evaluation ..
04:17:04 <KageSenshi> :)
04:17:19 <tuanta> when is the deadline for FUDCon bidding?
04:17:34 <KageSenshi> 11th jan
04:17:38 <KageSenshi> 10 days ago
04:17:57 <tuanta> now, what we can do for the bidding?
04:18:15 <KageSenshi> convince jsmith to get it run in .MY? :P
04:18:30 <tuanta> +1 Kage
04:18:32 <udinnet> azneita told he'll support for the MY bid
04:18:42 <tuanta> :)
04:18:52 <tuanta> not the PH one?
04:19:20 <udinnet> because the time frm is not fit for them.
04:19:22 <tuanta> I see him in the organizing team :)
04:20:03 <tuanta> a bit confused: he tries to organize PH one and support MY one :)
04:20:08 <udinnet> yes but they'll support for thr MY :)
04:20:24 <udinnet> he told so..
04:20:57 <tuanta> Suresh: I see some actions relate to you
04:21:02 <tuanta> two last ones
04:21:07 <Suresh> me???
04:21:17 * Suresh checking logs...
04:21:18 <tuanta> yes, you
04:21:20 <tuanta> any updates?
04:21:23 <udinnet> What I'll be the actual time period for APAC FUDCon?
04:21:27 <tuanta> draw up plan of action for suresh's idea "proper fpo website"
04:21:40 <tuanta> and "-> all: follow up suresh's plans"
04:22:17 <Suresh> you mean "proper fpo website"???
04:22:38 * udinnet see laptop battery power going down :(
04:22:38 <tuanta> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-01-07/apac.2012-01-07-04.01.html
04:23:05 <KageSenshi> udinnet, 1st march - 31st may .. my bid 18-20th may ..
04:23:32 <tuanta> if there are no other updates, we should move on to the next topic
04:23:41 <udinnet> KageSenshi: thanks :)
04:24:09 <tuanta> #topic APAC Trac for regional support
04:24:11 <Suresh> tuanta: i was busy so there were no update yet. if you have any q please place under my topic i am willing to A..
04:25:15 <tuanta> I have no question, Suresh
04:25:31 <tuanta> We have two tickets in this topic
04:25:37 <tuanta> 1. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/12
04:26:04 <tuanta> with some swags requested
04:26:07 <Suresh> 12 and 13 both are ready to closed
04:26:29 <tuanta> yes, I see
04:26:33 <tuanta> that's cool
04:26:33 <udinnet> tuanta: The reason for azneita's decision was, they decided to make FUDCon in July-Aug.
04:26:57 <tuanta> ah, I understand, udinnet, thanks!
04:27:12 <tuanta> #topic APAC events
04:28:11 <tuanta> should we discuss on FUDCon bidding in this topic or let it to the last topic?
04:28:24 <Suresh> last
04:28:33 <dramsey> Let us hold til end may be others join.  What do you think>
04:28:34 <udinnet> We've done that foss event in SUSL University. We had a session for sys admin using fedora too
04:28:38 <dramsey> s/>/?
04:28:38 <KageSenshi> FADKL next saturday
04:28:45 <Suresh> +1 dramsey
04:28:53 <tuanta> +1 dramsey
04:29:06 <tuanta> it's cool KageSenshi
04:29:14 <dramsey> Fedora 16 Akihabara on 01st, 15th & 29th
04:29:18 <udinnet> nice to hear that
04:29:19 <dramsey> Cool KageSenshi
04:29:31 <dramsey> +1 udinnet
04:29:33 <tuanta> how many ppl will come?
04:29:44 <tuanta> have you got a wiki page?
04:30:07 <KageSenshi> fadkl? .. no wiki page.. just event page here : http://fedora.my/events/fadkl012012/
04:30:13 <KageSenshi> wait let me check the registration
04:30:17 * udinnet still collecting photos of SUSL event
04:30:51 <KageSenshi> 23 registered
04:31:18 <KageSenshi> no idea how many will actually be coming :) usually less than registrants XD ..
04:31:18 <Suresh> KageSenshi: +1
04:31:29 <tuanta> great, I am looking forward to the event report
04:31:49 <KageSenshi> :)
04:32:19 <tuanta> any other upcoming events?
04:32:28 <dramsey> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents#FY12_Q4_.28December_2011_-_February_2012.29_2
04:32:37 <dramsey> I think that is it\
04:32:43 <dramsey> More forward?
04:32:52 <KageSenshi> yep
04:33:27 <udinnet> KageSenshi: lets make it as info?
04:33:48 <KageSenshi> udinnet, huh?
04:33:56 <udinnet> FAD
04:34:10 <tuanta> #info FAD KL will be held next Saturday
04:34:12 <tuanta> #topic Status of F16 Release Parties
04:34:28 <dramsey> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_release_events
04:34:35 <dramsey> No updates since 12/27/2012
04:34:51 <tuanta> yes, I think we should remove this from meetingagenda
04:34:52 <dramsey> I liked creating that Fedora 16 wiki
04:34:59 <udinnet> 2012?
04:35:17 <dramsey> c/2012/2011  :)
04:35:29 <KageSenshi> next item~ ..
04:35:51 <tuanta> should we next for focusing on F17 release parties?
04:35:51 <dramsey> move forward
04:35:57 <dramsey> Yup!
04:35:58 <tuanta> #topic Status of F17 Release Parties
04:35:58 <Suresh> yep
04:36:01 <dramsey> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events
04:36:19 <dramsey> By early February, we should have swag numbers to FAmsco
04:36:31 <Suresh> pre planing
04:36:35 <dramsey> Following the http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-ambassadors-tasks.html Fedora 17 Ambassadors Team Tasks
04:37:10 <dramsey> From February now March 08th
04:37:26 <dramsey> +1 Preplanning Suresh and Fedora 17 needs Tuan
04:37:37 <dramsey> That is it from me.
04:38:16 <dramsey> I have two Release Parties scheduled. May 20, 2012  & June 03, 2012
04:38:44 <tuanta> I will also have 2-3 ones in Hanoi, Hue and/or HCMC
04:39:00 <tuanta> I will contact to the organizing teams then update to the wiki soon
04:39:18 <Suresh> we need to have here too
04:39:31 <dramsey> +1 Tuan and Suresh
04:39:34 <dramsey> We can do it!
04:39:40 <udinnet> Suresh: +1
04:39:56 <udinnet> Suresh: Will plan it
04:40:10 <Suresh> udinnet: yep ;)
04:40:13 <tuanta> the time period for organizing release parties is 08 May to 08 June
04:40:32 <KageSenshi> when f17 release again ?
04:40:40 <tuanta> #info the time period for organizing F17 release parties is 08 May to 08 June
04:41:35 <dramsey> About May 08th KageSenshi
04:41:48 <tuanta> KageSenshi, 08th May
04:41:56 <KageSenshi> cool .. guess might be cool to fit mine in fudcon if i win the bid :P
04:41:58 <tuanta> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/17/Schedule
04:42:10 <tuanta> +1 KageSenshi
04:42:15 <tuanta> that's great idea
04:42:19 <dramsey> +1 KageSenshi and Tuan
04:43:50 <tuanta> #action update your F17 release parties to the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events
04:43:55 <tuanta> next then?
04:44:00 <udinnet> yes
04:44:02 <udinnet> :)
04:44:03 <dramsey> Move forward
04:44:14 <tuanta> #topic APAC plans for 2012(Suresh)
04:44:41 <tuanta> Suresh, any more updates should be discussed on today?
04:44:45 <udinnet> Suresh?
04:44:58 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/APAC_Plans_2012
04:45:04 <Suresh> thanks tuanta
04:45:14 <Suresh> there were no update yet
04:45:19 <tuanta> Suresh, I have some questions:
04:45:37 <Suresh> go on..
04:45:39 <tuanta> have you got a review process?
04:45:48 <tuanta> which can help you to follow the plan up
04:45:57 <tuanta> we have a plan
04:46:17 <Suresh> not yet since i could not attend last meeting thought
04:46:59 <tuanta> I think we should discuss on the way to make that plan happened
04:47:03 <Suresh> look forwrding to submit to famsco sice it has inclued prize's
04:47:22 <tuanta> +1 Suresh
04:47:40 <dramsey> Notes, APAC had the most events per release two times in a row
04:48:06 <tuanta> Suresh, could you draft a process which can help us to do that plan?
04:48:47 <tuanta> e.g. break down to the detailed actions; review all in two weeks; etc.
04:48:48 <Suresh> tuanta: dramsey yes i will do
04:48:57 <tuanta> great, Suresh
04:49:10 <tuanta> should you mark a new action?
04:49:21 * Suresh is busy with day job
04:49:42 <Suresh> i will try to finish it up soon as possible ;)
04:49:45 <tuanta> how about night, Suresh? :)
04:50:21 <tuanta> #action Suresh draft a process which can help to push the APAC plan forward
04:51:04 <Suresh> tuanta: we have 24 hours service softwre company so night shife and day time both since it's overseas patner
04:51:09 <tuanta> just stepped out
04:51:24 <tuanta> dramsey, please take the chair for me :)
04:51:37 <dramsey> Sounds good Tuan, we all are #chair
04:51:41 <dramsey> Next topic?
04:51:56 <KageSenshi> next~
04:52:47 <Suresh> next.
04:52:53 <dramsey> #topic Fedora and Red Hat System Administration Study Group for Ambassadors
04:52:58 <dramsey> Trying to get you guys into the SysadminSG https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/System_Administration_Study_Guide that is it from me.
04:53:03 <Suresh> thanks dramsey
04:53:06 <dramsey> That is a good update from my work with herlo
04:53:18 <dramsey> No other information to add.
04:53:33 <Suresh> dramsey: already we have got your mail ;)
04:53:33 <dramsey> Any questions, comments and/or next topic?
04:53:45 <Suresh> dramsey: it's awesome ;)
04:53:46 <dramsey> +1 Suresh, I wanted you all to know of the opportunity
04:53:56 <udinnet> +1 dramsey
04:54:49 <dramsey> I hope by next month and beyond more SysadminSG opportunities are your to behold.
04:54:54 <dramsey> That is it from me.
04:54:57 <dramsey> Next topic?
04:55:06 <Suresh> next
04:55:10 <udinnet> yes
04:55:11 <dramsey> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/System_Administration_Study_Guide
04:55:24 <dramsey> Topic Ambassadors' survey followup(ankursinha)
04:55:29 <dramsey> Whoops
04:55:40 <dramsey> #topic Ambassadors' survey followup(ankursinha)
04:56:22 <udinnet> FranciscoD is not here today :(
04:56:33 * tuanta back
04:56:41 <tuanta> so next?
04:56:46 <dramsey> Yup
04:56:51 <Suresh> yes
04:56:51 <udinnet> +1
04:56:51 <dramsey> Tuan, want to steer?
04:56:57 <dramsey> Yes, move forward
04:57:32 <tuanta> #topic pros and cons of the various FUDCon APAC bids
04:57:53 <dramsey> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Beijing_2012
04:57:53 <dramsey> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:APAC_2012_Bid_Malaysia
04:57:53 <dramsey> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Philippines_2012
04:58:06 <KageSenshi> XD
04:58:06 <tuanta> thanks dramsey
04:58:17 <dramsey> Would be great if Heherson as well as Gerard&Kaio were here to represent their countries' bids, too
04:58:41 <Suresh> dramsey: yes that's right
04:58:46 <udinnet> dramsey: +1
04:59:04 <udinnet> So big weight for the MY right?
04:59:34 <dramsey> Looks to KageSenshi...
04:59:48 <dramsey> Make your pitch
04:59:48 <KageSenshi> middle of South east asia~
04:59:51 <tuanta> I see PH bidding's time periods are not fit at all
05:00:13 <udinnet> tuanta: that was the reason :)
05:00:18 <KageSenshi> lets see ... cheap flight on airasia to get here .. plenty of food to choose from ..
05:00:26 <tuanta> again, what are the permitted time periods?
05:00:55 <KageSenshi> tuanta, 1/3/2012-31/5/2012
05:01:05 <udinnet> KageSenshi: What is the airport name please?
05:01:19 <udinnet> I should check the prices
05:01:25 <tuanta> #info valid time period for APAC FUDCon 2012 is 1/3/2012-31/5/2012
05:01:43 <KageSenshi> airport name -> if you are taking low cost airasia -> KLIA-LCCT  .. if you are taking normal flight companies -> KLIA
05:02:05 <KageSenshi> city code is KUL iirc
05:02:13 <dramsey> +1
05:02:17 <tuanta> so if PH team can not change their time period, PH bidding should be out (they can bid again next year)
05:02:23 <dramsey> Malaysia, truly Asia.
05:02:30 <udinnet> XD
05:02:38 <KageSenshi> KLIA & LCCT is just nearby each other .. though lcct is more minimalist and cheap
05:02:38 <Suresh> +1 dramsey
05:02:39 <tuanta> I also prefer KL
05:02:44 <udinnet> KageSenshi: Thanks
05:02:51 <KageSenshi> "lcct -> low cost cargo terminal"
05:02:57 <tuanta> easy to travel to (cheaper and faster)
05:03:38 <tuanta> almost of us here need to ask for a visa to travel to China
05:03:45 <Suresh> refering to Beijing_2012.we need to have Gerard&Kaio but there are trying since last year ;)
05:03:46 <tuanta> is that right?
05:04:09 <KageSenshi> the team here was involved in helping out organizing number of local FOSS events .. so we're kindof up to the job ..
05:04:25 <udinnet> great
05:04:30 <KageSenshi> as for visa, like any SEA countries, travel between ASEAN countries doesnt need visa ..
05:05:05 <KageSenshi> up to 1 month stay ..
05:05:31 <tuanta> +1 KageSenshi
05:05:46 <KageSenshi> just in case .. ASEAN != asian btw :)
05:05:51 <tuanta> I can even fly to KL in the morning then back to Hanoi in the evening :)
05:06:19 <tuanta> but I see getting a visa to Malaysia is easy
05:06:30 <tuanta> Suresh can confirm this
05:06:46 <Suresh> tuanta: yes you are right
05:07:00 <tuanta> Suresh, how many days you need to get the visa?
05:07:18 <Suresh> i dont about china and ph but i have traveled my for several times
05:07:21 <Suresh> 3 days
05:07:44 <Suresh> tuanta: 3 working days
05:08:04 <Suresh> they will offer 1 month visa
05:08:12 <udinnet> cool
05:08:16 <KageSenshi> though i heard ppl from some countries might get a bit stricter treatment for the first visit .. but easier for subsequent visits ..
05:08:34 <dramsey> Singapore is "very" close!
05:08:41 <KageSenshi> mainly due to the amount of foreign workers we have here
05:08:45 <dramsey> Love the hospitality of Malaysia.
05:09:00 <udinnet> +1 Malaysia
05:09:02 <tuanta> so here, we all support KL bidding, right?
05:09:08 <dramsey> Inside scoop, Beijing people "enjoy" going to Kuala Lumpur
05:09:15 * tuanta +1 Malaysia
05:09:25 <tuanta> and all others?
05:09:34 <KageSenshi> dramsey, whats with the in-quote ? :)
05:10:11 <tuanta> wait, we should have a official vote now then make an agreement
05:10:28 <dramsey> Ah, "enjoy" they "go!!!"  :)  Tourism is like shooting for close to million...
05:10:39 <Suresh> official vote???
05:10:46 <tuanta> this vote would be the voice of APAC ambassadors
05:11:09 <udinnet> +1 tuan
05:11:10 <Suresh> we do not have Gerard,Kio and anize???
05:11:23 <tuanta> the vote: where do we select for FUDCon?
05:11:36 <tuanta> PH bidding is invalid
05:11:46 <Suresh> ok
05:11:50 <tuanta> Suresh, you can see the time period
05:11:50 <dramsey> I have reviewed all three Wikis thoroughly and understood the venues
05:11:53 <Suresh> how about China?
05:11:59 <udinnet> my choice is MY
05:12:21 * tuanta support MY
05:12:24 <udinnet> Suresh: Travelling to china is cost much
05:12:33 <tuanta> +1 udinnet
05:12:50 <KageSenshi> regardless , the final decision is up to jsmith-away :)
05:12:51 <tuanta> while, you know, the FUDCon budget is limited
05:13:01 <tuanta> yes, KageSenshi
05:13:11 <tuanta> but we should have a strong voice from APAC
05:13:35 <Suresh> but it's seems we how many of us going to participating
05:13:47 <dramsey> I hope that some of you get to attend and "see" the FUDCon APAC.
05:13:50 <Suresh> let say 15-20 from apac
05:13:51 <dramsey> That is my thought.
05:14:18 <tuanta> a lot, I think, Suresh
05:14:19 <dramsey> Let us do an initial and follow-up ... Let us do something and if additional meeting is needed I think is good, what do you think?
05:14:44 <tuanta> If MY bidding wins, I will be there.
05:14:53 <Suresh> tuanta: not actually it's aroung 20 like that
05:14:54 <tuanta> it's easy to travel to KL
05:15:13 <udinnet> Yes thats right, we can do additional meetings, like before
05:15:15 <Suresh> dramsey: +1
05:15:30 <Suresh> we need to have all bid's ownes for more q's
05:15:32 <dramsey> :)  Great service and "Malaysia, Truly Asia!!!"  :)
05:15:34 <tuanta> as I remember, there are over 500 participants in the last APAC FUDCon in Pune
05:15:43 <udinnet> As tuan said we need strong voice from APAC
05:15:56 <Suresh> tuanta: i mean coming from overseas???
05:16:10 <KageSenshi> tuanta, they are mostly students of the college that host it
05:16:30 <tuanta> Suresh, most of them are from India
05:16:48 <udinnet> Big india !!! XD
05:17:03 <udinnet> so big amount of hosting ppl
05:17:08 <tuanta> I also believe that travel from India (where a lot of Fedora contributors located) to MY is easier
05:17:10 <Suresh> yep you are right .i was talking about overseas ppl.
05:17:40 <tuanta> MY is much more open
05:17:51 <Suresh> anyway i like dramsey though "Let us do something and if additional meeting is needed"
05:18:04 <udinnet> Suresh: +1
05:18:35 <tuanta> then they accept ppl from almost countries and regions much easier
05:19:10 <tuanta> can we do a vote and make and agreement now?
05:19:16 <dramsey> +1 Suresh
05:19:20 <dramsey> +1 Tuan
05:19:26 <tuanta> I hope we should have a voice in this meeting
05:19:42 <tuanta> you can see the Jared's response
05:19:55 <dramsey> +1 Tuan
05:20:03 <tuanta> and my voice: +1 for MY
05:20:06 <KageSenshi> one thing though for india .. airasia just dropped their india flights a few weeks ago due to increment of airport tax .. :(
05:20:13 <udinnet> +1 for MY
05:20:55 <dramsey> +1 for MY
05:21:21 <tuanta> and Suresh, have you got your final voice?
05:21:29 <tuanta> and KageSenshi? :)
05:21:41 <KageSenshi> tuanta, i'm biased :P
05:22:39 <udinnet> Suresh was gone :(
05:22:57 <KageSenshi> we're over 1.5hr :)
05:23:02 <udinnet> XD
05:23:22 <KageSenshi> next~! :)
05:23:28 <tuanta> #agreed APAC ambassadors support MY bidding for FUDCon APAC 2012
05:23:31 <dramsey> Well done everyone, if additional follow-up and questions then let us find out.  :)
05:23:34 <dramsey> +1 Tuan
05:23:49 <tuanta> so next?
05:23:55 <udinnet> please
05:24:00 <dramsey> Suresh, your vote?
05:24:03 <tuanta> #topic Open Floor
05:24:19 <tuanta> it's a good meeting today
05:24:21 <Suresh> dramsey: sorry i got disconnected
05:24:32 <tuanta> we have a strong voice;
05:24:47 <dramsey> Thank you all for attending the meeting and I hope that we see you in February 04th.  May be sooner if a follow-up APAC FUDCon meeting transpires..
05:24:52 <dramsey> That is okay, Suresh.
05:24:57 <dramsey> Tuan, you are so right!
05:24:59 <tuanta> sometimes, we need to make an agreement
05:25:18 <udinnet> +1 APAC
05:25:23 <dramsey> +1 APAC
05:25:47 <tuanta> is there anything to discuss on more in Open Floor?
05:25:54 <udinnet> We had a long meeting :)
05:26:02 <KageSenshi> :)
05:26:05 <dramsey> Suresh, any thoughts for FUDCon APAC?
05:26:09 <tuanta> ok, I think we can close the meeting now
05:26:52 <Suresh> ultimately i like MY bid but my worries is China is trying since last year ;)
05:27:04 <tuanta> :)
05:27:07 <dramsey> :)
05:27:09 <udinnet> :D
05:27:13 <dramsey> thank you all.
05:27:16 <dramsey> Let's close
05:27:17 <KageSenshi> i tried last year too but pulled off coz i know i wont win against mether :P
05:27:19 <udinnet> That is true
05:27:20 <dramsey> See you in February
05:27:26 <dramsey> +1 KageSenshi
05:27:27 <udinnet> Wiki looks nice
05:27:38 <tuanta> I think for Fedora only, not for any specific subset :)
05:27:59 <KageSenshi> s/pulled off/pulled out/g
05:28:25 <tuanta> KageSenshi: actually, APAC FUDCon 2011 is really good :)
05:28:37 <dramsey> Understood KageSenshi
05:28:40 * KageSenshi nods
05:29:05 <tuanta> any others?
05:29:14 <KageSenshi> none from me .. #endmeeting?
05:29:33 <tuanta> so, we should close now!
05:29:36 <tuanta> 5
05:29:39 <tuanta> 4
05:29:40 <udinnet> yes :)
05:29:56 <tuanta> btw, happy new year! (Lunar new year is so closed)
05:29:59 <tuanta> 3
05:30:02 <tuanta> 2
05:30:04 <tuanta> 1
05:30:08 <KageSenshi> ah happy chinese new year!
05:30:20 <tuanta> #endmeeting