03:58:28 <tuanta> #startmeeting
03:58:28 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Nov 26 03:58:28 2011 UTC.  The chair is tuanta. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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03:58:41 <tuanta> #meetingname APAC
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03:58:54 <tuanta> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-11-26#Agenda
03:59:11 <dramsey> .fas dramsey
03:59:12 <zodbot> dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' <diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com>
03:59:12 <tuanta> #topic Ambassador Pinging
03:59:13 <dramsey> My name is dramsey, from Japan and I use Fedora 16 from a DVD and Fedora 16 from an .ISO.
03:59:16 <Suresh> .fas suresht
03:59:17 <zodbot> Suresh: suresht 'Sureshkumar Packiyarajah' <sureshp8@gmail.com>
03:59:17 <tuanta> .fas tuanta
03:59:20 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
03:59:27 <maktrix> .fas maktrix
03:59:28 <zodbot> maktrix: mak 'Mahay Alam Khan' <mahayalamkhan@gmail.com>
03:59:32 <udinnet> .fasinfo udinnet
03:59:36 <zodbot> udinnet: User: udinnet, Name: Uditha Bandara Wijerathna, email: udithabnd@gmail.com, Creation: 2011-08-19, IRC Nick: udinnet, Timezone: Asia/Jayapura, Locale: en, Extension: 5157804, GPG key ID: 76D7B582, Status: active
03:59:39 <tuanta> hi everyone, please take a look at the meeting agenda
03:59:40 <azneita> .fas azneita
03:59:40 <zodbot> udinnet: Unapproved Groups: ambassadors marketing
03:59:44 <mbuf> .fas mbuf
03:59:44 <zodbot> udinnet: Approved Groups: freemedia cla_fpca cla_done
03:59:48 <zodbot> azneita: dona 'dona marie grace' <dona@azneita.org> - azneita '' <herson@azneita.org>
03:59:52 <tuanta> and add more topics if required
03:59:52 <zodbot> mbuf: shakthimaan 'Shakthi Kannan' <shakthimaan@gmail.com>
04:00:15 <bckurera> .fas bckurera
04:00:16 <zodbot> bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' <bckurera@gmail.com>
04:00:18 <magie> .fas magie
04:00:20 <zodbot> magie: magi 'Rafal Magiera' <R.K.Magiera@wsisiz.edu.pl> - geatz87 'Bogusław Magiera' <geatz87@tlen.pl> - magie 'Magie Antonio' <magie@bluepoint.com.ph>
04:00:31 <born2linux> .fas engels
04:00:34 <zodbot> born2linux: engels 'Engels Antonio' <engels@bluepoint.com.ph>
04:00:39 <bckurera> Buddhika Kurera from Sri Lanka
04:00:40 <tuanta> #chair dramsey Suresh maktrix udinnet azneita mbuf bckurera magie born2linux
04:00:40 <zodbot> Current chairs: Suresh azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey magie maktrix mbuf tuanta udinnet
04:00:58 <tuanta> ten ppl. great!!
04:01:03 <dramsey> What a great turnout of people!  :D
04:01:03 <Suresh> wow
04:01:06 <udinnet> Wow! I think today we need more than a hour!
04:01:09 <udinnet> :D
04:01:12 <tuanta> I am Tuan, from Vietnam
04:01:18 <tuanta> using Fedora 16
04:01:34 <udinnet> Here still F15
04:01:40 <Suresh> Suresh from Srilanka i use f 16 from DVD
04:01:57 <EvilBob> I'm just here to spectate, I'm running for a seat on the board. I figure I should get more in touch with what you guys have going on.
04:02:24 <tuanta> should we go to the main topics?
04:02:30 <Suresh> tuanta: add EvilBob to chair :)
04:02:31 <maktrix> Mahay Alam Khan aka Mak from Bangladesh using F15 in laptop (custom installer given by jared ;))
04:02:34 <bckurera> It is great EvilBob KIT
04:02:38 <tuanta> #topic News from FAmSCo
04:02:40 <EvilBob> Not needed Suresh
04:02:52 <Suresh> ok
04:03:56 <tuanta> #chair EvilBob
04:03:56 <zodbot> Current chairs: EvilBob Suresh azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey magie maktrix mbuf tuanta udinnet
04:04:20 <tuanta> any news from FAmSCo?
04:04:33 <Suresh> kaio ?
04:04:48 <azneita> kaio seems to be not in room
04:04:57 <udinnet> yeah
04:04:58 <Suresh> not yet come
04:05:00 <bckurera> There is a IRC Public meeting today 1300 UTC
04:05:12 <dramsey> any news?
04:05:15 <tuanta> yes, that's a cool new
04:05:18 <bckurera> #info There is a FAmSCo IRC Public meeting today 1300 UTC
04:05:19 <tuanta> #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-November/018514.html
04:05:31 <dramsey> +1
04:05:52 <udinnet> +1
04:06:01 <maktrix> +1
04:06:16 <udinnet> Any other news ?
04:06:20 <bckurera> azneita and born2linux great to see you all frm Ph :)
04:06:35 <azneita> also magie :)
04:06:42 <born2linux> likewise bckurera :)
04:06:47 <magie> +1 :D
04:06:50 <bckurera> ahh magie too ;)
04:07:09 * azneita is looking for aolsystems ;)
04:07:39 <magie> paging aolsystems...
04:07:50 <udinnet> If no any other news, lets move then ;)
04:08:39 <dramsey> Yup, next topic.
04:08:41 <maktrix> will be back in 5 minutes. (as you know it's my office time ;) just started
04:08:49 <bckurera> will move
04:09:00 <bckurera> there is one
04:09:12 <bckurera> about next FUD con :)
04:09:24 <udinnet> ok
04:09:26 <udinnet> :)
04:09:30 <bckurera> thats all
04:09:50 <dramsey> +1
04:09:50 <bckurera> #topic Review *ACTION* items from the last meeting
04:10:23 * Suresh is at office, may slow response
04:10:39 <udinnet> I have an pending action from old meetings
04:10:52 <udinnet> We have the date confirmed for the event
04:10:58 <udinnet> It is 8th
04:11:01 <udinnet> of Dec
04:11:02 <bckurera> pls go udinnet
04:11:02 <udinnet> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Seminar_Anuradhapura_2011
04:11:09 <Suresh> +1 udinnet
04:11:14 <udinnet> I'm working with bckurera
04:11:19 <udinnet> and Suresh too
04:11:45 <dramsey> +1
04:12:07 <udinnet> We're currently working on the event agenda.
04:12:28 <tuanta> thanks bckurera for taking the chair. my network connection is too bad today
04:12:35 <udinnet> Event poster is prepared by bckurera
04:12:47 <udinnet> Nice poster btw :)
04:12:54 <bckurera> no worries tuanta will do it
04:13:09 <dramsey> +1
04:13:23 <udinnet> bckurera any info?
04:13:32 <bckurera> Yup poster was designed and udinnet to print some banners too
04:13:36 <Suresh> udinnet: well info :)
04:13:37 <bckurera> actually two banners
04:13:49 <bckurera> udinnet is working so hard for this event
04:13:53 <udinnet> yeah
04:13:55 <udinnet> :D
04:13:58 <bckurera> estimated participants are 200
04:14:14 <tuanta> +1 bckurera
04:14:21 <bckurera> actually this is the first F16 large event in Sri Lanka
04:14:22 <udinnet> University students
04:14:31 <bckurera> further we are producing some media as well
04:14:34 * azneita takes note of udinnet's effort :)
04:14:54 <bckurera> first we think of going with DVDs but later we switch to Live CDs
04:14:57 <tuanta> #topic APAC events
04:15:11 <tuanta> we are in this topic, actually
04:15:24 <udinnet> yeah
04:15:29 <udinnet> thank tuanta
04:15:54 <udinnet> Then we thought about printing live media
04:15:58 <udinnet> CDs
04:16:13 <udinnet> it is more useful than DVDs
04:16:25 <tuanta> I have just been back from MozCamp in KL. We had a really good meetup with Fedorians there.
04:16:42 <dramsey> udinnet have many CDs for one Fedora User?
04:16:49 <azneita> nice pics tuanta
04:16:55 <tuanta> in general, we decided to support KL for next year FUDCon APAC
04:17:00 <Suresh> udinnet: get some feedback from students regarding 32 bit or 64 bit before producing
04:17:09 <azneita> i saw you with snavin, mak and izhar
04:17:17 <mbuf> there is a proposed Fedora Installfest on December 3, 2011 at Foresight Institute in Pune, India; still working out the schedule for the event
04:17:24 <udinnet> Suresh: what about your availability in 8th?
04:17:42 <tuanta> +1 mbuf
04:17:47 <Suresh> udinnet: let me check my time farame
04:17:48 <tuanta> do you need any support?
04:18:10 <Suresh> azneita: u mean fedora meetup at malaysia
04:18:33 <azneita> during mozcamp then meetup
04:18:37 <Suresh> udinnet: i will get back to you soon
04:18:47 <udinnet> Suresh: sure
04:18:51 <udinnet> :)
04:19:02 <Suresh> + azneita
04:19:03 <mbuf> tuanta, your question is for me?
04:19:06 <udinnet> bckurera, are you there?
04:19:07 <Suresh> thanks
04:19:46 <bckurera> udinnet?
04:19:56 <tuanta> yes, mbuf, do you need any more support for your upcoming event?
04:20:00 <bckurera> Is there any info or will move next>
04:20:10 <udinnet> yup
04:20:14 <Suresh> #info Fedora Installfest on December 3, 2011 at Foresight Institute in Pune, India
04:20:15 <mbuf> tuanta, not required for now; we should be able to manage; thanks!
04:20:37 <udinnet> shall we post that event also as info?
04:20:48 <bckurera> pls udinnet go for it
04:20:54 <bckurera> it is your event :D
04:20:57 <tuanta> welcome back, maktrix :)
04:21:10 <Suresh> #info srilanka fedora event https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Seminar_Anuradhapura_2011
04:21:16 <maktrix> tuanta: thanks
04:21:26 <udinnet> #info Fedora Introduction Event date confirmed. 8th December 2011
04:21:34 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Seminar_Anuradhapura_2011
04:22:09 <bckurera> #topic Status of F16 Release Parties
04:22:10 <tuanta> great, mbuf. good luck to all of us :)
04:22:16 <mbuf> tuanta, thanks
04:22:20 <tuanta> thanks bckurera
04:22:26 <maktrix> Suresh: bckurera Fedora Seminar seems to be an innovative one :) congrats
04:22:29 <bckurera> +1
04:22:40 <udinnet> Thanks Suresh
04:22:47 <udinnet> ;)
04:22:51 <dramsey> +1
04:22:58 <tuanta> I got a F16 RP in Hanoi; report already
04:23:14 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F16_Hanoi
04:23:17 <Suresh> yes during last meeting tuanta :)
04:23:27 <maktrix> tuanta: yes, I have read that. nice repot
04:23:42 <tuanta> we are planning for the other in Hue, tomorrow
04:23:45 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F16_Hue
04:23:53 <bckurera> tuanta I have read this vn.fco.o
04:23:55 <dramsey> Tuan +1
04:24:10 <udinnet> Suresh: any release party in SLITT?
04:24:12 <tuanta> any others?
04:24:24 <tuanta> please update them all to wiki
04:24:43 <azneita> #link http://ph.fedoracommunity.org/index.php?entry=20111112231250
04:24:46 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_release_events
04:24:47 <bckurera> Once the media production is finished will heading to RP in SL
04:24:47 <Suresh> udinnet: not sure right now,may be soon :)
04:24:55 <azneita> #link https://blog.azneita.org/2011/11/fedora-16-release-party/
04:25:02 <magie> http://bluepoint.com.ph/index.php?entry=20111112231247&show=album
04:25:07 <udinnet> Suresh: Cool
04:25:14 <tuanta> cool, azneita
04:25:24 <tuanta> and magie :)
04:25:25 <udinnet> bckurera, What about moratuwa uni?
04:25:38 <udinnet> are they confirmed?
04:25:45 <azneita> tuanta, magie organized that event
04:25:49 <Suresh> +1 az
04:25:56 <Suresh> +1 azneita
04:25:57 <bckurera> They will do it after the xam udinnet.
04:25:57 <udinnet> +1
04:26:00 <maktrix> azneita: you did just after getting back from FudCon pune :)
04:26:01 <bckurera> waiting for media
04:26:04 <dramsey> +1 for adding F16 release events to the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_release_events wiki
04:26:38 <azneita> maktrix, that's pune's banner http://bluepoint.com.ph/album.php?entry=20111112231247&show=IMG_0858.JPG
04:26:42 <tuanta> those all three links are for one release party, right?
04:26:45 <bckurera> #info please add your Release Parties to #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_release_events
04:26:50 <azneita> tuanta, right
04:26:56 <tuanta> azneita and magie
04:26:56 <dramsey> azneita +1
04:26:57 <born2linux> yes tuanta
04:27:05 <Suresh> azneita: cool fedora mug :)
04:27:08 <maktrix> azneita: ah, :) i can see that
04:27:29 <azneita> maktrix, KageSenshi ahs the other one
04:27:41 <magie> thanks suresh ;)
04:27:47 <bckurera> azneita I really like the Fedora mug coool
04:27:59 <maktrix> so, you two took them away all the way from Pune :) good for you.
04:28:27 <bckurera> hikz is it a info maktrix ;)
04:28:28 <born2linux> thanks magie for assembling the mugs just a few minutes before the release party :)
04:28:42 <maktrix> bckurera: nop
04:28:55 <azneita> born2linux, +1 i can remember :)
04:29:26 <maktrix> magie: please share the procedure for producing Fedora mug, or you can put in the wiki
04:29:51 <tuanta> +1 Philippinos
04:29:52 <azneita> magie, please :)
04:29:57 <udinnet> +1
04:30:00 <dramsey> +1 Fedora APAC
04:30:02 <magie> ok
04:30:13 <bckurera> maktrix I think it is easy, get to paint shop and give them the art design and they will print it for you :)
04:30:30 <dramsey> What was cost to make Fedora mug?
04:30:31 <azneita> bckurera, there's a faster way :)
04:30:36 <tuanta> next topic then?
04:30:46 <maktrix> bckurera: eventhoug let things be documented for all
04:30:48 <dramsey> Move forward Tuan
04:30:51 <magie> very low cost
04:30:55 <magie> will post on wiki
04:30:59 <dramsey> +1 magie
04:31:01 <udinnet> sure
04:31:07 <tuanta> #topic APAC plans for 2012 (Suresh)
04:31:07 <maktrix> +1
04:31:09 <udinnet> +1 tuanta
04:31:25 <tuanta> Suresh, your turn.
04:31:28 <udinnet> Suresh's idea :)
04:31:29 <Suresh> ok thanks tuanta
04:31:46 <bckurera> +1
04:31:48 <maktrix> #action magie will put the process on the wiki on how to produce low cost fedora mug for yoru events
04:31:57 <Suresh> first one :There will be two fedora release(f17 and f18) so we have to schedule two major events for the particular release.
04:32:23 <dramsey> Yo LMartinez
04:32:25 <maktrix> Suresh: +1
04:32:27 <LMartinez> Hi, sorry for being late. Timezones. :)
04:32:30 <dramsey> +1 Suresh
04:32:35 <Suresh> second will be like :Year end Ambassadors report.
04:32:40 <maktrix> LMartinez: welcome
04:32:44 <udinnet> hello LMartinez
04:33:16 <udinnet> Suresh +1
04:33:25 <bckurera> we miss a asmartgoat; welcome LMartinez
04:33:26 <Suresh> i assume you all have fedorapeople space i sit?
04:33:31 <tuanta> Suresh, I love the last one: "Pinging inactive ambassadors.". It's also in my mind.
04:33:44 <tuanta> #chair LMartinez
04:33:44 <zodbot> Current chairs: EvilBob LMartinez Suresh azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey magie maktrix mbuf tuanta udinnet
04:33:49 <bckurera> Suresh and Tuanta
04:34:03 <bckurera> I ping all the FAms in APAC in last August
04:34:17 <bckurera> to get to know the right time for APAC special meetings
04:34:19 <Suresh> and also what about your thinking about this :announcing open source computation among the university students level and select first place from every region and let them participate for next APAC FUDCon 2012.
04:34:26 <bckurera> there is less response :(
04:34:28 <maktrix> bckurera: pinging once again for year end report won't hurt 'em :)
04:34:33 <tuanta> bckurera, we should do that regularly
04:34:47 <bckurera> It is good to try it again and again
04:34:49 <tuanta> that should be the main task in all plans, I think
04:35:01 <udinnet> Suresh: Good idea
04:35:15 <bckurera> So that will help us a lot in events and also meeting participation as well
04:35:21 <Suresh> i am going to create wiki about this and let annouce to next apac meeting
04:35:28 <udinnet> +1 bckurera
04:35:31 <tuanta> +4 Suresh
04:35:38 <maktrix> +1 Suresh
04:35:43 <bckurera> specially I like the Year end report; like annual report. Suresh
04:35:46 <Suresh> because it's just DRAFT
04:35:47 <dramsey> Fantastic
04:36:10 <Suresh> so we have to work hard to achive these things
04:36:18 <udinnet> APAC is improving, Nice to see that :D
04:36:25 <kaio_tab> Hi
04:36:36 <dramsey> Yo kaio_tab  KAIO!
04:36:39 <udinnet> hi kaio
04:36:39 <tuanta> #chair kaio_tab
04:36:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: EvilBob LMartinez Suresh azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey kaio_tab magie maktrix mbuf tuanta udinnet
04:36:41 <udinnet> :)
04:36:48 <maktrix> udinnet: +1 the FudCon pune boosted APAC a lot
04:37:00 <tuanta> we will back to the topic, News from FAmSCo later
04:37:10 <kaio_tab> K :)
04:37:15 <udinnet> maktrix: yeah ;)
04:37:35 <LMartinez> Hi Kaio
04:37:39 <udinnet> kaio_tab: we missed you
04:37:41 <udinnet> :)
04:37:57 <Suresh> so tuanta that's all from me,once i created wiki with all info then let introduce to public :)
04:38:02 <tuanta> kaio_tab and everyone, #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-11-26#Agenda
04:38:19 <tuanta> we are in the topic operated by Suresh
04:38:32 <tuanta> +1 Suresh
04:38:59 <Suresh> are you all ok with APAC plans for 2012?
04:39:07 <tuanta> we will work out on that wiki
04:39:10 <udinnet> We missed a topic in APAC Events
04:39:19 <udinnet> Next FUDCon?
04:39:19 <bckurera> please go for it suresh +1
04:39:20 <dramsey> Suresh, sounds good to me.  I look forward to your wiki
04:39:28 <tuanta> yes, udinnet
04:39:37 <Suresh> sure dramsey :)
04:39:38 <maktrix> Suresh: where is the plan written :) l
04:39:52 <tuanta> I told that I support KL, udinnet
04:40:09 <udinnet> ok tuanta
04:40:10 <tuanta> maybe Tokyo, why not, dramsey?
04:40:17 <udinnet> Yeah :)
04:40:20 <Suresh> maktrix: not yet written to wiki,right now just DRAFT idea
04:40:39 <dramsey> Tuanta - Tuan was in the proposal earlier.
04:40:40 <udinnet> We'll sort out it soon
04:40:42 <maktrix> Suresh: +1
04:40:42 <bckurera> May be Manila why not azneita? magie? bor2linux? aolsystems?
04:40:42 <bckurera> :)
04:40:48 <Suresh> hi kaio_tab
04:40:54 <udinnet> yeah azneita?
04:41:06 <tuanta> #action Suresh creates a wiki page for APAC Plans 2012
04:41:07 <bckurera> shall we move then almost 40 mins past :)
04:41:19 <Suresh> +1 tuanta
04:41:24 <tuanta> +1 bckurera
04:41:25 <udinnet> bckurera, sure go on
04:41:28 <maktrix> +1
04:41:43 <tuanta> we can arrange for upcoming years, one by one :)
04:42:13 <tuanta> dramsey, can you share that link here?
04:42:38 <dramsey> Was discussed at Red Hat in person
04:42:54 <dramsey> The timeframe for the FUDcon was not to advantage.
04:42:57 <Suresh> +1 dramsey
04:42:58 <tuanta> so, that's time to move forward
04:43:02 <tuanta> #topic Red Hat information training for Ambassadors (dramsey)
04:43:19 <Suresh> dramsey: our time :)
04:43:29 <Suresh> any new news?
04:43:32 <dramsey> My question is - Who is interested in getting certified?  If so, then what Red Hat Certification?
04:43:49 * tuanta interested
04:44:02 <bckurera> udinnet? suresh?
04:44:02 <dramsey> I have read e-mails from others on the certification / exam.
04:44:05 * LMartinez is also interested
04:44:12 <Suresh> +1 from Suresh
04:44:21 <udinnet> I really like to get RHCSA crt. I worked in it few moths.
04:44:25 <maktrix> +1 from me too
04:44:28 <dramsey> If you are interested, then what Red Hat Certification?
04:44:30 <Suresh> dramsey: it was happened NA
04:44:35 <dramsey> +1 Suresh
04:44:35 <Suresh> is it?
04:44:37 <LMartinez> RHCSA would be the choice for me
04:44:53 <dramsey> +1 udinnet LMartinez.
04:45:08 <maktrix> RHCE is good for me to start with
04:45:17 <dramsey> +1 maktrix
04:45:20 <udinnet> But we have to travel india to do the exams
04:45:22 <udinnet> :(
04:45:22 <born2linux> rhca for me if possible
04:45:30 <dramsey> +1 born2linux
04:45:39 <dramsey> Tuan - tuanta which certification?
04:45:50 <dramsey> In order to get the support, then we need to have the "I am interested in exam"
04:45:57 <LMartinez> Sidenote: afaik is more advanced than RHCSA, and i believe it requires RHCSA to complete.
04:45:58 <maktrix> RHCSA also sounds good if resources are provided
04:46:19 <dramsey> Very true LMartinez.  ;)
04:46:25 <udinnet> +1
04:46:26 <tuanta> dramsey, I don't know. maybe starter one
04:46:29 <Suresh> yes LMartinez
04:46:32 <dramsey> +1 tuanta
04:46:35 <LMartinez> afaik RHCE is*
04:46:52 <udinnet> +1 LM
04:46:56 <bckurera> I am neutral to techi things :) soory
04:47:04 <azneita> i want one too but i want fudcon in ph more :)
04:47:07 <udinnet> you should do RHCSA first
04:47:12 <born2linux> +1 LMartinez
04:47:20 <tuanta> +1 azneita
04:47:29 <magie> +1
04:47:35 <Suresh> dramsey: has much more experence about it he will help us to getting RH exams :)
04:47:48 <udinnet> Yo hanthana!
04:47:51 <maktrix> azneita: KageSenshi will be your strong compititor for the bidding ;)
04:47:53 <dramsey> Very good everyone.  That is it from me.  To develop you is my thought
04:47:55 <Suresh> hi hanthana (Navin)
04:48:01 <dramsey> Hi Hanthana.
04:48:04 <udinnet> snavin is here :)
04:48:13 <udinnet> hello hanthana
04:48:14 <hanthana> hi guys!
04:48:18 <dramsey> Tuan - tuanta that is all from me.
04:48:19 <magie> hello
04:48:21 <maktrix> hanthana: hello
04:48:35 <dramsey> Review the Study URLs
04:48:39 <tuanta> dramsey, any action, info, etc.?
04:48:45 <dramsey> #info  Review the Study URLs
04:48:45 <Suresh> +1 dramsey
04:48:51 <azneita> hey danishka
04:48:58 <LMartinez> hi hanthana (I'll be right back, I'm just reading though what i missed in this meeting, http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-11-26/apac.2011-11-26-03.58.log.txt )
04:49:04 <tuanta> #chair hanthana
04:49:04 <zodbot> Current chairs: EvilBob LMartinez Suresh azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey hanthana kaio_tab magie maktrix mbuf tuanta udinnet
04:49:11 <Suresh> very useful dramsey
04:49:23 <dramsey> upon interest on the Red Hat certification then we may move forward with our request
04:49:27 <dramsey> That is it from me.
04:49:34 <dramsey> Thank you, Suresh
04:49:36 <Suresh> +1 dramsey
04:49:40 <udinnet> +1
04:50:01 <tuanta> +1 LMartinez
04:50:03 <azneita> thanks dramsey
04:50:14 <udinnet> +1 azneita
04:50:19 <magie> +1
04:50:23 <bckurera> will move yes :)
04:50:30 <maktrix> dramsey: try putting a bit accelaration; you been persuading for long
04:50:33 <tuanta> dramsey, should we have a dedicated wiki page for this topic?
04:50:48 <maktrix> tuanta: +1
04:50:54 <bckurera> tuanta that looks great +1
04:50:59 <udinnet> tuanta: I think it'll be good
04:51:17 <born2linux> +1 udinnet
04:51:22 <maktrix> then put it within an action item
04:51:33 <dramsey> +1 tuan - tuanta
04:51:35 <kaio_tab> Dramsey talked to jsmith yet?
04:51:39 <dramsey> Great ideas maktrix
04:51:50 <tuanta> #action dramsey create a wiki page for Red Hat information training for Ambassadors
04:51:51 <dramsey> kaio - kaio_tab unfortunately no
04:52:09 <kaio_tab> You may start from him. :)
04:52:24 <dramsey> How about "anyone" create the wiki page if you are interested then you may do so.  The power is yours.
04:52:26 <Suresh> +1 dramsey create a wiki page for Red Hat information training for Ambassadors ;)
04:52:34 <maktrix> kaio_tab: dramsey it's a good idea to talk with jsmith ASAP
04:52:36 <tuanta> beside dramsey, the initiator, that should be also a good voice from FAmSCo, kaio_tab
04:52:48 <dramsey> kaio - kaio_tab sounds wonderful, do you think anyone could do?
04:53:14 <bckurera> sounds like an action item
04:53:22 <tuanta> #idea dramsey should talk with jsmith about Red Hat information training for Ambassadors
04:53:23 <dramsey> +1 Tuan - tuanta.  :)  maktrix, someone should who has time.
04:53:46 <maktrix> dramsey: better write to him as a starter
04:54:05 <bckurera> dramsey may be the FAmSCo public meeting today is a good place
04:54:18 <udinnet> +1 bckurera
04:54:19 <dramsey> Once again "how about anyone"
04:54:19 <tuanta> +1 bckurera
04:54:19 <maktrix> then we can invite him for a spcial IRC meeting with APAC
04:54:29 <born2linux> +1 great idea
04:54:31 <tuanta> +1 maktrix
04:54:34 <magie> +1
04:54:42 <dramsey> +1 great idea.  You all may do this indeed.
04:54:56 <udinnet> tuanta: I'll do it.
04:54:57 * Suresh is thinking like sending letter with this meeting log
04:54:59 <tuanta> #idea invite jsmith to APAC meeting to talk with him
04:55:17 <tuanta> Suresh, I am sure that he will read this log
04:55:28 <Suresh> +1 tuanta
04:55:39 <dramsey> +1 Tuan - tuanta
04:55:39 <maktrix> he doews alwasy read regional meeting logs
04:55:44 <tuanta> one more notification is also good, however
04:55:54 <maktrix> +1 tuanta
04:56:17 <bckurera> another action item tuanta
04:56:21 <tuanta> all ideas, actions have been written down?
04:56:25 <tuanta> next topic then?
04:56:48 <tuanta> #topic Classroom (bckurera)
04:57:10 <bckurera> tuanta pls
04:57:35 <bckurera> ohh sorry this topic is kept aside till there is any info available
04:58:05 <bckurera> further I saw FransiscoD is trying to have a classroom on vi editor
04:58:10 <tuanta> then next?
04:58:14 <bckurera> will help him
04:58:15 <tuanta> #topic APAC Events and Meeting tracker(bckurera)
04:58:46 <bckurera> To increase the participation I think of having a meeting tracker
04:58:59 * Suresh is look forwarding FransiscoD VIM classroom session :)
04:58:59 <maktrix> +1
04:59:04 <bckurera> So there is a section at the meeting page to add participants as well
04:59:09 <udinnet> +1
04:59:17 <bckurera> so that we can keep in touch with them easily
04:59:17 * mbuf needs to leave now; will catch up later;
04:59:30 <Suresh> see you mbuf
04:59:31 <LMartinez> bye mbuf
04:59:43 <tuanta> bye mbuf
04:59:44 <dramsey> bye mbuf
04:59:55 <bckurera> see you again mbuf
05:00:03 <udinnet> bye mbuf
05:00:05 <maktrix> bye kannan
05:00:13 <bckurera> thats it
05:00:26 <mbuf> Suresh, LMartinez tuanta dramsey bckurera udinnet maktrix later!
05:00:44 <bckurera> next pls
05:01:13 <tuanta> bckurera, what is the different between your idea and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings#Next_Meeting?
05:01:20 <dramsey> Do we need to do News & Ideas and/or FAmSco news?
05:01:30 <tuanta> +1 dramsey
05:01:39 <bckurera> It is good to have two sections
05:01:45 <bckurera> as Suresh noted
05:01:57 <bckurera> we can have news from FAmSCo and news from APAC FAms
05:02:03 <bckurera> two topics
05:02:06 <hanthana> yes, new ideas: "how to work with rest of ambassadors in your region"
05:02:29 <bckurera> FAmSCo is in general whole FAm group
05:02:33 <bckurera> hanthana +1
05:02:47 <hanthana> speacially to Sri Lankan Ambassadors
05:02:48 <hanthana> :P
05:02:57 <dramsey> +1 Tuan - tuanta and Hanthana  Very true bckurera
05:03:09 <hanthana> s/speacially/specially
05:03:09 <tuanta> next then?
05:03:27 <udinnet> go on
05:03:33 <tuanta> #topic News from FAmSCo
05:03:39 <bckurera> hanthana +1
05:03:43 <tuanta> kaio_tab, your turn
05:03:45 <udinnet> XD
05:03:48 <maktrix> hanthana: +1
05:04:06 <udinnet> +1 hanthana
05:04:17 <kaio_tab> Not much updates, mos
05:04:24 <tuanta> also, a news: the current FAmSCo period has been almost ended
05:04:30 <tuanta> please go voting
05:04:31 <kaio_tab> Mostly following up on tickets.
05:04:48 <dramsey> IRC at 13:00 UTC?
05:05:03 <dramsey> Good luck to FAmSCo election people and please vote
05:05:04 <dramsey> :D
05:05:04 <kaio_tab> Yes
05:05:12 <maktrix> kaio_tab: thanks for mentioning, :P I have an upaid ticket ;)
05:05:24 <Suresh> go for it https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting
05:05:24 <tuanta> #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-November/018496.html
05:05:25 <maktrix> dramsey: +1
05:05:40 <dramsey> Who has "unpaid" tickets?
05:05:41 * hanthana want to put some thing to the log before meeting end
05:06:27 <tuanta> then, here is the last one:
05:06:31 <tuanta> #topic Open Floor
05:06:34 <Suresh> open floor is waiting for you hanthana
05:06:38 <hanthana> i think ambassadors should work with other ambassadors in his/her region in a flexible manner. I feel like some of them totally working like an competition. It is a kind of shame that known people not willing to settle regional issues but they point non-Ambassadors to solve it. This was recently happen when I was requesting to making some changes to Fedora event in Anuradhapura, Sri Lanka.
05:06:45 <tuanta> today is a really great meeting, I see
05:07:04 <tuanta> a lot of great ppl with a lot of great ideas
05:07:20 <tuanta> +1 hanthana
05:07:27 * azneita nods
05:07:34 <maktrix> +1 hanthana
05:07:43 <dramsey> hanthana +1
05:07:44 <hanthana> i was really disappointed local ambassadors not willing to manage it
05:08:01 <dramsey> problems do occur in life...
05:08:07 * Suresh is nods
05:08:08 <dramsey> We need to help each other resolve
05:08:15 <hanthana> just mentioning SORRY! we can't its up to his decision... etc etc
05:08:21 <Suresh> +1 dramsey very true ;)
05:08:24 <LMartinez> We are all here for one cause, Software.
05:08:41 <kaio_tab> Maktrix, any famsco approved that yet?
05:08:43 <azneita> human engineering is harder that software engineering
05:08:44 <udinnet> +1 dramsey
05:08:54 <kaio_tab> Or u just waiting for payment?
05:09:11 <born2linux> +1 azneita
05:09:12 <udinnet> azneita: very true
05:09:15 <magie> +1
05:09:16 <maktrix> kaio_tab: it was my flight ticket reimbursment
05:09:17 <tuanta> hanthana, it's better to collaborate among local ones; however, we are also beside you.
05:09:32 <maktrix> kaio_tab: here is the ticket https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/193
05:09:45 <bckurera> FAms only cant work
05:09:52 <bckurera> the others support should be there always
05:10:14 <bckurera> everything is not flexible all the time so we should adopt
05:10:15 <hanthana> udinnet: as the organizer and an ambassador you must try to slove the issue not like the way bckurera works here
05:10:16 <dramsey> +1 for understanding
05:10:23 <azneita> maktrix, can't see it, but is it the same one we talked about?
05:10:28 <bckurera> finally what matter is spreading FOSS
05:10:38 <Suresh> cool cool :)
05:10:52 <udinnet> +1 Suresh
05:10:59 <born2linux> +1 suresh
05:11:00 <udinnet> yes hanthana
05:11:16 <dramsey> +1
05:11:19 <dramsey> Do we need any other FAmSco support?  Media and/or funds?  For past, current, and/or future events?
05:11:39 <dramsey> I read something before about Fedora Polo Shirts, did this happen?
05:12:02 <LMartinez> I don't believe this happened unfortunatnylu
05:12:05 <bckurera> hanthana udinnet has no choice, they cant postpone the event
05:12:06 <LMartinez> unfortunantly*
05:12:25 <tuanta> +1 dramsey, how is the Fedora T-shirt, bckurera?
05:12:36 <udinnet> +1 tuanta
05:12:55 <hanthana> bckurera: as i said i asked not to postpone the event but switch the content/speakers
05:13:16 <kaio_tab> Maktrix the ticket is about sgirt
05:13:19 <kaio_tab> Shirt
05:13:28 <bckurera> content is designed by the university not me
05:13:40 <bckurera> we have to provide what they need
05:13:42 <udinnet> We'll not sorted out the speakers and content. I'll contact you soon hanthana
05:13:45 <bckurera> not what you want
05:13:48 <maktrix_> kaio_tab: I had purchased my flight tickets to FUDCon Pune
05:14:09 <udinnet> bckurera, hanthana cool cool :D
05:14:12 <dramsey> Looks like udinnet will be doing CDs, how many CDs for one person to use Fedora?  Do you funds to buy media?
05:14:20 <kaio_tab> Is that the ticket?
05:14:22 <maktrix_> it seems from what information is open and from the wiki, that bckurera could have been more coopertive to his fellow FAm
05:14:37 <hanthana> i feel you guys are mad with doing an event without concerning the schedule as who the hell conduct an event without giving an 'Introduction to FOSS' but directly talking about 'PHP development'
05:14:38 <bckurera> dramsey yes we are planning for media per person
05:14:41 <udinnet> darmsey: bckurera is doing CDs
05:14:43 <tuanta> we should not miss CoC out, please
05:14:58 <azneita> guys, let's try to settle this amiably,ok?
05:15:17 <born2linux> i'm sure we can sort this out
05:15:27 <magie> +1
05:15:31 <maktrix_> hanthana: :D what, preaching PHP Dev to newbies ? what the heck :D :D lol
05:15:39 <tuanta> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_working_group/Code_of_Conduct
05:15:47 <hanthana> maktrix_: and adons development as well
05:16:03 <tuanta> +1 azneita
05:16:09 <azneita> hey hanthana, can you guys meet?
05:16:16 <azneita> IRL
05:16:19 <maktrix_> +1 azneita
05:16:23 <magie> i think some form of closure is needed
05:16:27 <udinnet> +1 azneita
05:16:31 <dramsey> +1
05:16:42 <dramsey> Who is running for FAmSco?
05:16:49 <dramsey> From our APAC group that is...
05:16:50 <azneita> tuanta,
05:16:52 <maktrix_> bckurera: hanthana meet in person and forget the past
05:16:53 <hanthana> bckurera: i will do canvasing for you if you could stop spoiling the local community :)
05:16:59 * tuanta running for FAmSCo
05:16:59 * Suresh looking forward handle this issue so pls stope now
05:17:05 <azneita> mbuf and bckurera
05:17:22 <maktrix_> +1 Suresh
05:17:27 <dramsey> New Release = New Start
05:17:28 <udinnet> +1 Suresh
05:17:31 <dramsey> +1
05:17:31 <udinnet> pls
05:17:49 <dramsey> Okay, looks like four APAC running in FAmSco right?
05:17:50 <Suresh> lets move to next :)
05:18:03 <dramsey> Before end of meeting how about a "final" vote for me "pitch
05:18:05 <kk4ewt> VOTE
05:18:07 <dramsey> ???
05:18:12 <dramsey> +1 kk4ewt
05:18:25 * LMartinez has already voted. :)
05:18:28 <tuanta> #chair kk4ewt
05:18:28 <zodbot> Current chairs: EvilBob LMartinez Suresh azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey hanthana kaio_tab kk4ewt magie maktrix mbuf tuanta udinnet
05:18:30 <dramsey> ??? was for "pitch
05:18:36 <tuanta> #chair maktrix_
05:18:36 <zodbot> Current chairs: EvilBob LMartinez Suresh azneita bckurera born2linux dramsey hanthana kaio_tab kk4ewt magie maktrix maktrix_ mbuf tuanta udinnet
05:18:42 <Suresh> You can vote at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting  Voting period lasts until 2011-12-05 23:59:59
05:19:03 <maktrix_> tuanta: changed me nick to maktrix no need charing maktix_
05:19:05 <azneita> we got 6
05:19:08 <dramsey> Just a little more than one week to vote and two weeks for F16 Release Parties.
05:19:21 <dramsey> azneita === 6???  OMG!~
05:19:38 <tuanta> I just hope the next FAmSCo will do better
05:19:47 <kk4ewt> i didnt need to be chaired either
05:19:50 <azneita> bckurera, kaio, gbraad, rejaul islam, mbuf and tuanta
05:19:56 <dramsey> For next FAmSco what do we want???
05:20:09 <azneita> you for famsco hehe
05:20:22 <magie> nice azneita ;)
05:20:36 <udinnet> +1
05:20:41 <Suresh> handling what local ambassadors nees on time :)
05:20:42 <dramsey> 8-)  hahahaha :-D
05:20:53 <Suresh> s/nees/need
05:20:53 <maktrix_> :)
05:20:58 <udinnet> XD
05:20:59 <dramsey> Money, funds, support?
05:21:10 <Suresh> +1 dramsey
05:21:13 <tuanta> +1 dramsey
05:21:23 <maktrix> +1 dramsey
05:21:23 <tuanta> we should have voice from APAC
05:21:24 <dramsey> What else?  Please, don't be shy
05:21:28 <Suresh> not actually money but also swag and media
05:21:28 <kaio_tab> Maktrix pls send me the ticket of the flight and i go ask famsco and harish. :)
05:21:37 <tuanta> I believe that FAmSCo will hear our voice
05:21:41 <azneita> at the very least, meetup of all guys here in next fudcon
05:21:42 <dramsey> +1 kaio_tab
05:21:49 <maktrix> kaio_tab: will cc you in the tecket
05:22:00 <udinnet> +1 azneita
05:22:09 <maktrix> +1 azneita
05:22:13 <born2linux> +1 azneita
05:22:18 <maktrix> I love FUDCon :)
05:22:28 <udinnet> Nice to hear those words!
05:22:36 <kk4ewt> maktrix:  your turn to organize one then
05:22:48 <kaio_tab> Kaio if elected will be a ticket pusher.
05:23:00 <Suresh> +1 kaio_tab
05:23:15 <LMartinez> +1
05:23:18 <kk4ewt> kaio_tab:  sorry fudcon tickets shouldnt need to be pushed
05:23:21 <tuanta> dramsey et all, I'd love to see this: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2011-October/018319.html
05:23:21 <kaio_tab> Cash flow in community also is more important mother. XD
05:23:22 <maktrix> kk4ewt: better community deserves first :) i support for Sri Lanka
05:23:52 <hanthana> :)
05:23:54 <dramsey> +1 kakio_tab
05:23:57 <udinnet> +1
05:24:07 <dramsey> +1 Tuan - tuanta
05:24:10 <maktrix> tuanta: my lap batter juicing out, might disconnect any moment
05:24:17 <azneita> tuanta, my wish is actually for IDENTIFY :)
05:24:31 <kk4ewt> fudocn tickets shouldnt need famsco approval if the person applied for subsidy and it was approved
05:24:49 <azneita> noted kk4ewt
05:25:02 <Suresh> remember before 30 Nov, pls change your FAS2 password and ssh key
05:25:13 <maktrix> Suresh: +1
05:25:14 <tuanta> +1 Suresh
05:25:14 <udinnet> Got in Suresh
05:25:15 <dramsey> Good information!
05:25:23 <udinnet> Already done
05:25:27 <dramsey> #info Suresh: remember before 30 Nov, pls change your FAS2 password and ssh key
05:25:29 <maktrix> make it an action item for APAC
05:25:35 <tuanta> +1 dramsey
05:25:42 <dramsey> #info Suresh makes good information for us
05:25:51 <dramsey> WHoops, +1 maktrix
05:25:53 <Suresh> +1 all
05:26:02 <tuanta> anything else for today?
05:26:03 <dramsey> Other thoughts?
05:26:05 <kaio_tab> I understand. Just community architect doesn't have time to assess before approval/payment.
05:26:21 <tuanta> we are over 30 minutes :)
05:26:23 <dramsey> Vote as a closing note.  Wishes that I was running
05:26:26 <Suresh> tuanta: shall we end the meeting
05:26:30 <dramsey> Have a great weekend.  ;)
05:26:39 <maktrix> dramsey: run next time
05:26:41 <dramsey> +1 APAC
05:26:41 <tuanta> great!
05:26:45 <kaio_tab> Otherwise, as prev famsco i am more happy to focus on igniting events.
05:26:49 <tuanta> +1 maktrix
05:26:57 <Suresh> +1 APAC
05:27:00 <maktrix> kaio_tab: +1
05:27:04 <udinnet> +1 APAC
05:27:07 <tuanta> +1 Fedora!!
05:27:13 <dramsey> :)
05:27:15 <maktrix> +1 FUDCon
05:27:18 <tuanta> we should close now
05:27:18 <dramsey> We can do it
05:27:20 <udinnet> :D
05:27:23 <udinnet> yeah
05:27:25 <tuanta> 5
05:27:28 <born2linux> +1, thanks everyone
05:27:29 <tuanta> 4
05:27:30 <dramsey> Thank you all for attending our meeting.
05:27:33 <tuanta> 3
05:27:35 <magie> bye everyone, see you next time
05:27:36 <tuanta> 2
05:27:36 <dramsey> See you next time.  ;)
05:27:38 <tuanta> 1
05:27:38 <udinnet> bye all
05:27:41 <tuanta> 0.5
05:27:41 <dramsey> :D
05:27:42 <maktrix> azneita: hanthana do you remeber the ryhme I say FUD you say con
05:27:44 <dramsey> VOTE!
05:27:45 <tuanta> #endmeeting