20:01:12 <cwickert> #startmeeting EMEA Ambassadors 2011-11-02
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20:01:22 <cwickert> #meetingname EMEA Ambassadors 2011-11-02
20:01:22 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'emea_ambassadors_2011-11-02'
20:01:39 <cwickert> #topic Role call
20:01:47 <cwickert> .fas cwickert
20:01:48 <zodbot> cwickert: cwickert 'Christoph Wickert' <christoph.wickert@googlemail.com>
20:01:56 <cwickert> anybody else or am I alone?
20:02:08 <marios_nick> hey cwickert!
20:02:12 <arthurbuliva> .fas arthurbuliva
20:02:12 <zodbot> arthurbuliva: arthurbuliva 'Arthur Buliva' <arthurbuliva@gmail.com>
20:02:13 <acaleechurn> .fas acaleechurn
20:02:16 <zodbot> acaleechurn: acaleechurn 'Amit Caleechurn' <acaleechurn@gmail.com>
20:02:16 <sesivany> .fas eischmann
20:02:17 <marios_nick> .fas misaakidis
20:02:20 <zodbot> sesivany: eischmann 'Jiri Eischmann' <eischmann@redhat.com>
20:02:24 <zodbot> marios_nick: misaakidis '' <misaakidis@yahoo.gr>
20:03:32 <delhage> .fas delhage
20:03:33 <zodbot> delhage: delhage 'Lars Delhage' <delhage@gmail.com>
20:03:56 <delhage> evening
20:04:36 <cwickert> ok, lets start
20:05:01 <cwickert> the agenda for this weeks meeting can be found at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:EMEA_Ambassadors_2011-11-02
20:05:39 <cwickert> #topic Announcements
20:05:47 <cwickert> I have some :)
20:06:03 <cwickert> we have some elections coming up
20:06:18 <cwickert> namely for the Fedora Board, FAmSCo and FESCo
20:06:38 <cwickert> for more info see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections
20:06:56 <cwickert> as ambassadors, you are allowed to vote both for the board and for FAmSCo
20:07:22 <cwickert> If you want to run for one of them, please nominate now in the wiki
20:07:32 <cwickert> for the board at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Elections/Nominations
20:07:44 <cwickert> and for FAmSCo at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_2011_nominations
20:08:10 <cwickert> #info we have some elections coming up, namely for the Fedora Board, FAmSCo and FESCo. for more info see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections
20:08:42 <cwickert> #info If you want to run for one of them, please nominate now in the wiki. The deadline is November 5th 23:59:59 UTC
20:08:55 <cwickert> so you have only 2 more days left to nominate yourself
20:09:10 <cwickert> alright, any questions about this? more announcements?
20:09:13 <cwickert> one more
20:09:31 <cwickert> we have the go/nogo meeting in an hour
20:09:41 <cwickert> so lets make this a quick meeting :)
20:09:45 <cwickert> questions?
20:09:46 <delhage> :)
20:10:31 <cwickert> alright, lets move on
20:10:49 <cwickert> #topic Ambassadors Schedule
20:10:57 <cwickert> #link http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-16/f-16-ambassadors-tasks.html
20:11:11 <cwickert> lets see what we have...
20:11:29 <cwickert> a lot of things that FAmSCo was supposed to do, didn't happen
20:11:57 <cwickert> I and others took over some of them, and most other things were taken care of by the local communities
20:12:07 <cwickert> so I think overall we are good
20:12:25 <cwickert> but still we need a more active FAmSCo... hint, hint ;)
20:12:53 <cwickert> "Regional Teams Obtain Final Release ISOs from Release Engineering for duplication"
20:13:00 <cwickert> sesivany: this is going to happen now!
20:13:19 <sesivany> !
20:13:21 <cwickert> if we don't slip, you or the media vendor can start downloading the RC
20:13:30 <cwickert> RC4 that is
20:13:36 <cwickert> but lets wait for the meeting
20:13:40 <cwickert> sesivany: go ahead
20:13:57 <sesivany> we still need to solve the border adjustment problem, then it's all set.
20:14:40 <sesivany> who could help us with that?
20:14:47 <cwickert> gnokii: can you?
20:14:57 <cwickert> sesivany: the files are available as svg
20:15:21 <cwickert> sesivany: you can also mail alexander,
20:15:27 <cwickert> he is the one who did them
20:15:30 <sesivany> cwickert: I know, but their designer cannot open them properly and I'm not a designer :-(
20:15:40 <cwickert> mail alexander then
20:15:44 <sesivany> ok
20:15:50 <cwickert> and if he doesn't respond, then I will do it
20:15:58 <sesivany> eof
20:15:59 <cwickert> but of course it takes me longer than alexander or gnokii
20:16:03 <jreznik> !
20:16:07 <cwickert> jreznik: go ahead
20:16:34 <jreznik> and we're waiting for missing 32 bit install dvd fix but I asked the designer to do it, should be tonight
20:16:36 <jreznik> eof
20:16:57 <cwickert> jreznik: what's wrong with it?
20:17:08 <sesivany> cwickert: that was the Pantone problem
20:17:11 <cwickert> ah
20:17:17 <cwickert> always the same...
20:17:29 <cwickert> ok, back to schedule
20:17:32 <jreznik> cwickert: just it's missing - after the pantone fix, we have it for all other cd labels but not for 32 bit dvd right now
20:17:53 <cwickert> jreznik: ?
20:18:17 <cwickert> the cd label is the most easy thing, it's only a single color
20:18:50 <jreznik> cwickert: but that was the problem :) just misunderstanding - they wanted cd label in pantone, not cd cover - it can be cmyk
20:19:01 <cwickert> I see
20:19:09 <cwickert> and why is it missing now?
20:19:35 <cwickert> I mean, why can't they download it from the wiki and convert that single color?
20:19:56 <jreznik> cwickert: yep, the girl who helped us will do it tonight
20:20:03 <jreznik> just overlooked one cd
20:20:15 <cwickert> jreznik: ok, understood
20:21:06 <cwickert> alright, lets move on
20:21:17 <cwickert> what else is in the schedule?
20:21:19 <cwickert> "Regional Coordination with Marketing for Release Events"
20:21:27 <cwickert> not sure what this really means
20:21:41 <cwickert> rbergeron: ping
20:21:55 <cwickert> rbergeron: "Regional Coordination with Marketing for Release Events" - who is supposed to do what?
20:21:56 <sesivany> rbergeron started the marketing group again
20:22:07 <cwickert> was it dead?
20:22:15 * cwickert didn't note the difference :)
20:22:28 <sesivany> cwickert: let's say inactive :-)
20:22:55 <cwickert> ok, I guess then there is nothing to do
20:23:16 <cwickert> however it would be cool if they could give us the list of F16 talking points
20:23:39 <cwickert> if not, just stick to the feature list when you tell people why Fedora is so awesome
20:23:56 <cwickert> that is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/16/FeatureList
20:24:29 <cwickert> and we have "FAmSCo with Design Team Create Release Party Posters"
20:24:33 <cwickert> this is done
20:25:22 <cwickert> #info release party posters are available at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_Artwork/Submissions/Poster
20:25:40 <cwickert> #info more artwork at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_Artwork/Submissions/Banners#Release_Banner_.28small.29_Submissions
20:25:49 <cwickert> ok, I think that's all for schedule
20:25:58 <cwickert> and we alredy talked about release events
20:26:03 <cwickert> so lets continue with events
20:26:07 <cwickert> #topic Events
20:26:22 <sesivany> !
20:26:34 <cwickert> the list of events is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#EMEA-FY12Q3
20:26:59 <cwickert> sesivany: you had  LinuxCon, right?
20:27:07 <cwickert> thanks for your report btw
20:27:15 <sesivany> cwickert: me and jreznik ran a Fedora booth at LinuxCon, I think it was a very interesting event...
20:27:24 <sesivany> we should take part every year.
20:27:29 <cwickert> #info please remember to write event reports, especially when you have been sponsored by Fedora
20:27:40 <sesivany> seems to be one of the most important Linux events in Europe.
20:28:02 <cwickert> I see
20:28:10 <cwickert> how big was the audience?
20:28:14 <sesivany> 900
20:28:28 <sesivany> but very skilled and interesting people
20:28:38 <cwickert> I see
20:28:44 <sesivany> kernel developers, software engineers from various companies etc.
20:28:55 <sesivany> great event for networking
20:28:57 <jreznik> and various upstreams...
20:29:08 <cwickert> and, how many people did you convert to Fedora? ;)
20:29:15 <rbergeron> hrm?
20:29:17 * rbergeron looks up
20:29:47 <jreznik> cwickert: a lot of people with "I'm the last Ubuntu user, let's switch" :)
20:29:56 <rbergeron> Oh. If you need ... pamphlets or whatever, I guess, cwickert, re: what I have above there.
20:30:07 <cwickert> rbergeron: we need the talkingpoints
20:30:10 <sesivany> cwickert: one company decided to offer Fedora as a guest system in their cloud service after a conversation with us :)
20:30:18 <cwickert> sesivany: ok, cool
20:30:34 * rbergeron sighs
20:30:36 <Prometheas> .fas misaakidis
20:30:36 <zodbot> Prometheas: misaakidis '' <misaakidis@yahoo.gr>
20:30:36 <rbergeron> i'll see what i can do
20:30:40 <rbergeron> i know other people were working on it
20:30:45 <rbergeron> but apparently not as much as i thought
20:31:02 <Prometheas> Sorry guys, I had some connectivity issues, back to base :)
20:31:07 <cwickert> rbergeron: ok, thanks
20:31:10 <cwickert> Prometheas: welcome
20:31:16 <rbergeron> sorry
20:31:37 <cwickert> ok, we have some more events coming up
20:31:45 <cwickert> but AFAICS all have what they need
20:31:54 <cwickert> if not, yell at me :)
20:32:20 <cwickert> #topic Release events
20:32:31 <cwickert> Prometheas: I see you have a release party, great
20:32:36 <Prometheas> !
20:32:44 <cwickert> Prometheas: go ahear
20:32:48 <cwickert> ahead*
20:32:55 <Prometheas> it will be a theme party
20:32:59 <Prometheas> arcade-80s
20:33:12 <Prometheas> in cooperation with New Technologies Club of Cyprus University of Technology
20:33:26 <Prometheas> and we will have a booth and share F16 media
20:33:31 <cwickert> sounds interesting
20:33:40 <Prometheas> you are invited then :)
20:33:51 <cwickert> media however will become difficult...
20:34:08 <Prometheas> we will prepare some copies
20:34:12 <cwickert> ok
20:34:21 <Prometheas> eof
20:34:23 <cwickert> do you have a lightscribe writer?
20:34:32 <Prometheas> unfortunately no
20:34:53 <cwickert> ok, but for the others: if you do media yourself, you can do lightscribe. labels are at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/MediaArt/F16#Disc_Label_Artwork_.28LightScribe.29
20:35:05 <cwickert> Prometheas: ok, I'll see if I can send you other swag
20:35:09 <sesivany> !
20:35:20 <cwickert> sesivany: yes please
20:35:43 <sesivany> cwickert: I think ambassadors should start filing requests for media so that we can send them right away after we get them.
20:36:07 <cwickert> sesivany: yes
20:36:24 <cwickert> I will first mail the key distributors
20:36:43 <cwickert> these are proven ambassadors who get large numbers and distribute them in their countries
20:37:07 <cwickert> but for urgent events you might also send some smaller packages to peope directly
20:37:11 <cwickert> peop*l*e
20:37:28 <sesivany> cwickert: I still believe we can have it done within two weeks since now.
20:37:33 <cwickert> sesivany: did you look into the swag tracker? there are tickets already
20:37:46 <sesivany> cwickert. sesivany will do that
20:38:07 <cwickert> #info file your media requests in the swag tracker at https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ and assign them to "eischmann"
20:38:20 <cwickert> #action sesivany to look for open media tickets in the swag tracker
20:39:08 <cwickert> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_release_events
20:39:34 <cwickert> ok, looks good
20:39:53 <cwickert> #info we can still use more release events. It's not to late to add yours at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F16_release_events
20:40:40 <cwickert> rbergeron: do you think we will slip?
20:41:12 <cwickert> well, I guess in an hour we'll know more :)
20:41:16 <cwickert> #topic  Action items from previous meetings
20:41:21 <cwickert> lets see...
20:41:38 <cwickert> DONE - gnokii to take care we get a F16 release events poster (template)
20:41:41 <rbergeron> cwickert: i hope not
20:41:46 <cwickert> DONE - cwickert to tell the design that we need lightscribe labels, too
20:41:53 <cwickert> rbergeron: :)
20:42:00 <cwickert> DONE - cwickert to ask for volunteers and candidates for the FAmSCo elections on ambassadors list
20:42:20 <cwickert> IN PROGRESS - cwickert, sesivany and all other interested people to get quotes for USB keys ASAP
20:42:35 <cwickert> sesivany: you have quotes already? I have mailed MediaBit
20:42:41 <cwickert> DONE - cwickert to send the media meeting minutes to ambassadors list
20:42:52 <sesivany> cwickert: I have some
20:42:57 <cwickert> yay, everything done :)
20:43:09 <cwickert> that was a productive 2 weeks
20:43:13 <cwickert> thanks everybody
20:43:24 <cwickert> #topic Open floor
20:43:25 <delhage> and I got the USB-keys from jsmith yesterday
20:43:31 <cwickert> delhage: wow!
20:43:37 <delhage> 22 of them
20:43:42 <cwickert> cool
20:43:49 <sesivany> cwickert: but they emailed me this week that due to floods in Thaiwan, prices are changing rapidly.
20:44:17 <cwickert> delhage: so you are set for FOSSCONS?
20:44:27 <cwickert> sesivany: true, I also noticed that
20:44:34 <delhage> cwickert: FSCONS, yep, all set it appears
20:44:39 <sesivany> cwickert: it's the case of harddrives but SSD producers wanna use that situation to increase prices, too.
20:44:41 <cwickert> we might actually wait a little until the prices have dropped again
20:45:19 <sesivany> cwickert: we'll do pins for our office, maybe we can do some for EMEA ambassadors too
20:45:37 <cwickert> sesivany: Thaiwan is an interesting country :) Thailand and Taiwan combined... :)
20:45:44 <delhage> .9
20:45:46 <cwickert> what pins?
20:45:47 <delhage> err
20:45:48 <delhage> :)
20:46:00 <sesivany> cwickert: Fedora pins(buttons)
20:46:16 <sesivany> cwickert: the one you gave us at Linux Tag, but better quality
20:46:28 <cwickert> sesivany: the greek have a button machine
20:46:39 <cwickert> and I want them to pay back their debs in buttons :)
20:46:48 <cwickert> s/debs/depts
20:46:59 <cwickert> not debian packages of course
20:47:18 <cwickert> I am about to to something like this: http://www.pins.de/prod-technik.php
20:47:27 <cwickert> I already got a quote
20:47:34 * gnokii a lot of highlights for me
20:47:38 <cwickert> but they also want the colors in pantone :)
20:47:48 <cwickert> gnokii: relax, nothing to do actually
20:47:50 <sesivany> cwickert: no problem, we'll probably do more swag soon, so if you need to have something done, let me know.
20:47:57 <cwickert> alright
20:48:02 <jreznik> F18 should be Fedora Pantone (R)
20:48:03 <cwickert> anything else?
20:48:24 <sesivany> no
20:48:30 <cwickert> jreznik: suggest it once the nominations are open :)
20:48:46 <cwickert> alright, I'll wait 3 more minutes and then end the meeting
20:48:55 <cwickert> if you want to speak up, speak up now
20:49:08 <cwickert> otherwise go forth and make Fedora 16! :)
20:49:40 <delhage> I really hope it's a go tonight so we can make f16 sticks at fscons
20:50:00 <arthurbuliva> viva F16.  viva Fedora
20:52:35 <delhage> thanks cwickert
20:52:48 <cwickert> delhage: what for? I didn't do much
20:52:53 <cwickert> #endmeeting