20:00:29 <stickster> #startmeeting Insight -- agenda: http://tinyurl.com/insight-agenda
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20:00:34 <stickster> #meetingname Insight
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20:00:36 <stickster> #topic Roll call
20:00:39 <asrob> hi
20:00:49 <stickster> o/ asrob
20:02:13 * stickster not sure if pcalarco or others will be here.
20:02:26 <stickster> asrob: It could be a quick meeting today :-)
20:02:26 * nirik is lurking around, but kinda busy
20:02:33 <stickster> nirik: Thanks, no worries my friend.
20:02:46 <asrob> stickster, okay
20:02:48 <stickster> Let's dive right in
20:02:52 <stickster> #topic Last week's action items
20:03:15 <stickster> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-23/insight.2011-08-23-20.02.html <-- last week's minutes
20:03:38 <stickster> #info stickster handled items 3 and 4, and started work on porting the authfas module
20:03:48 <stickster> #action stickster Finish setting up pull of fedora-insight-features on stg and prod hosts (30 min for stg, 4 hrs for prod)
20:03:55 <stickster> #action stickster Find out whether openid is capable of passing group membership data
20:04:07 <stickster> I haven't quite finished those, but I'm almost there with the first one.
20:04:31 <stickster> #info stickster created a git branch in the features repo for 'staging' so we could keep that separate from 'master' which will hook to the production system
20:04:58 <stickster> Since pcalarco isn't here, we'll just plunge right ahead if that's OK :-)
20:05:07 <asrob> :)
20:06:20 <stickster> OK
20:06:28 <stickster> #topic Development status & work
20:06:57 <stickster> #info stickster working on D7 porting for authfas in case we decide we want to move up to D7
20:07:05 <stickster> asrob: What was that about a "Coder" module you mentioned earlier?
20:07:28 <asrob> stickster, that might helps you
20:07:51 <asrob> with Coder you can see what is D7 changes
20:08:02 <asrob> it contains a Coder upgrade module
20:08:25 <stickster> asrob: Does that module point out where I need to fix things, or does it try to automatically fix them?
20:09:06 <asrob> yeah, it does, if I am right it try to automatically fix them but it isn't 100 percent
20:09:24 <stickster> OK, that's interesting. I'll have to try this out.
20:09:28 <asrob> stickster, for example, http://drupal.org/node/265152
20:10:01 <stickster> Hm, the syntax stuff is helpful, but I'm more interested in the API calls being right :-D
20:10:46 <asrob> yeah, wait a sec, I'm going to see whether is it installed on my instance
20:11:09 <stickster> OK
20:13:31 <asrob> stickster, yeah, it's installed, just one more sec ;)
20:13:35 <stickster> asrob: Well, we can deal with this later
20:13:46 <stickster> Let's get through with any other devel status and we'll do working stuff in #fedora-mktg after this
20:14:05 <asrob> okay
20:14:56 <stickster> asrob: So regarding D7 stuff, did we talk about a possible migration last week?
20:15:39 <stickster> #action stickster and asrob will look at Coder module to see if it can help with the port of authfas module to D7
20:16:00 <asrob> stickster, good question, I don't remember, I don't think so
20:16:31 <stickster> Let's talk about that then
20:16:37 <asrob> OK
20:16:37 <stickster> #topic Possible D7 migration
20:17:13 <stickster> asrob: First, is this something driven by the calendar stuff, or is it just something you wanted to try, to see if it could succeed?
20:19:34 <asrob> well, I would like to migrate to D7 because we would have more possibilities
20:19:40 <stickster> for...?
20:20:12 <stickster> Just to be up to date with some other sites? Or are there particular pieces of development we need to be taking advantage of?
20:20:41 <asrob> for example, we can change our moderation system to a complete system like workbench(http://drupal.org/project/workbench)
20:20:45 * stickster is not opposed but doesn't think we should move just for the sake of being new and shiny. There would be a *lot* of module packaging to do. Again.
20:21:09 <asrob> there are new Views features in 3.x serie
20:21:19 <stickster> The question is, do we need them :-)
20:21:50 <asrob> yep, it's good question
20:22:34 <asrob> CCK(which is used by Date module) is in core
20:23:12 <stickster> Does Date use CCK the module in 6.x though?
20:24:06 <stickster> Also asrob, Views, CTools, and thus Date are all "moving targets" right now in D7: http://drupal.org/project/date
20:24:06 <asrob> yeah, it does
20:24:16 <asrob> "The D5 and D6 versions of the Date field require the Content Construction Kit (CCK) module. The D7 version works with the core Field functionality."
20:24:18 <stickster> That says to me that we shouldn't be looking to move yet
20:24:32 <stickster> We alread have drupal6-cck installed on the Insight systems, so no problems there
20:25:29 <asrob> that's right but we don't need to use in D7 because it's in core
20:25:59 <stickster> Sure
20:26:03 <stickster> One module less ;-)
20:26:15 <stickster> There are about 15 others if memory serves.
20:27:09 <asrob> but there is a moderation system, http://drupal.org/project/workbench, but it's only for D7
20:28:07 <stickster> Ah, so I didn't equate that with our "moderation queue" for Planet stuff and other stories
20:28:10 <stickster> That would be quite useful
20:29:24 <stickster> I wonder if there are similar things for D6
20:29:38 <stickster> Such as http://drupal.org/project/workflow
20:30:29 <stickster> asrob: So
20:31:31 <stickster> #idea Continue to look at D7 migration, but base decision on critical path needs, followed by "nice to have" things
20:32:12 <stickster> What do you think asrob?
20:32:45 <asrob> stickster, probably you're right, I'm a little fish in the big ocean :)
20:32:48 <stickster> Also, a question for you asrob... Do you have SSH access on the insight01.dev.fp.o host?
20:32:54 <stickster> asrob: You're an IMPORTANT fish!!!
20:33:08 <asrob> stickster, yes, I do
20:34:00 <stickster> asrob: So it would be possible for us to experiment with a D7 system on that host if desired
20:34:21 <stickster> asrob: If you want to do that, we'll talk on the list and I can probably provide the puppet support for at least the D7 Core
20:34:42 <asrob> stickster, wow, that would be awesome
20:36:18 <stickster> #action asrob and stickster to discuss setting up a D7 exemplar on the insight01.dev host
20:36:53 <stickster> OK, so with that, I'm out of topics for today. Mainly I need to get to the puppetizing, which I swear will not take long once I have a few minutes free to work on it :-)
20:37:17 <stickster> #topic Puppetizing
20:37:20 <asrob> okay
20:37:40 <stickster> #idea stickster would like to start by puppetizing the Features stuff on staging next.  The dev host is done already.
20:37:55 <asrob> wohoo :)
20:38:03 <stickster> Once we test on staging that things work, then we can (1) make sure our git merging works OK to master, and (2) puppetize the production host to use it
20:38:15 <stickster> After that, things get easier hopefully
20:38:29 <asrob> ;)
20:39:13 <stickster> That's all I have
20:39:18 <stickster> #topic Open floor
20:40:10 <asrob> I haven't any idea now
20:40:44 <asrob> so you can close if there is nothing
20:41:58 <stickster> OK, thanks asrob
20:42:05 <stickster> We'll retire to #fedora-mktg :-)
20:42:09 <stickster> #endmeeting