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05:01:52 <tagoh> #meetingname i18n
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05:01:59 <tagoh> #topic agenda and roll call
05:02:12 <tagoh> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2011-08-04
05:02:38 <tagoh> hi, meeting time for i18n
05:02:41 <tagoh> who else here today?
05:02:43 <juhp> hi
05:03:57 <dueno> hi
05:05:57 <epico_laptop> hi
05:07:42 <fujiwarat> hi
05:08:09 <tagoh> okay, let's get started.
05:08:17 <dingyichen> hi
05:08:20 <tagoh> #topic F16
05:08:41 <tagoh> any updates to share on the feature?
05:10:34 <tagoh> fyi, it's now on string freeze and passed over alpha change deadline.
05:11:18 <tagoh> given that no slip happens on the release schedule, alpha will be available 16th of August.
05:12:09 <juhp> what is the scope of the testday btw?
05:12:26 <juhp> or testdays?
05:12:26 <tagoh> I've pushed im-chooser 1.5.0 though, wonder if we may need to update the scope of the feature since gnomecc doesn't provide devel files anymore.
05:12:35 <juhp> aha
05:13:03 <juhp> any response from upstream?
05:13:28 <tagoh> on bugzilla to merge into upstream? not yet
05:14:11 <juhp> I mean the lack of devel files?
05:14:51 <tagoh> juhp: testcases could says the scope instead?
05:15:17 <juhp> aha
05:15:51 <pravins> hi
05:16:03 <juhp> also 2011-08-26 vs 2011-09-22 ?
05:17:00 <tagoh> juhp: they seem to see official panel that is unified design etc
05:17:03 <juhp> nevertheless we need to decide the general scope before including/writing testcases i guess
05:17:15 <juhp> aha
05:17:37 <juhp> tagoh: ok so needs to be done in control-center, hmm I see
05:17:46 <juhp> well maybe that is a good thing too
05:18:27 <tagoh> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days
05:19:53 <tagoh> juhp: just proposed to have another test day for ibus feature specific, because thought it's not enough in 3 slots currently we have.
05:20:03 <juhp> okay
05:20:07 <juhp> cool
05:20:32 <tagoh> and as long as looking at recent updates on ibus, that would be better having one to get more feedback
05:20:42 <juhp> yeah
05:20:49 <juhp> good thinking
05:20:49 <tagoh> rather than just pushing
05:21:27 <tagoh> so expecting that would be a good opportunity to improve ibus feature and get more stability on f16
05:22:02 <juhp> tagoh: feel free to update the feature anyway - so you think we can't add IM config to gnomecc in time for F16?
05:22:15 <tagoh> juhp: unfortunately yes
05:22:18 <juhp> ok
05:22:33 <tagoh> fujiwarat: how about ibus feature testcase btw?
05:23:37 <fujiwarat> tagoh: No, I haven't created any testcases yet.
05:24:15 <juhp> also are we happy with the date?  there was the question about moving the testday to an earlier date?
05:25:10 <tagoh> fujiwarat: hm, okay. if there are any list of features in new ibus, I could help to create one for test day though. we still have a little time but would be nice to prepare the page earlier IMHO
05:26:09 <fujiwarat> OK, I see.
05:26:50 <juhp> will 2011-08-26 also include basic IM testing?
05:28:02 <tagoh> juhp: there are limitation in a slot. I better clarifying when exactly is "Tuesday" though, better not expect we could move it that early date
05:28:41 <juhp> yeah personally I am ok with 09-22, just asking really
05:29:36 <tagoh> juhp: well, basically yes. but that may depends. it's supposed to have the sort of regression test though, if any features affects to current testcases, we may need to update the testcases.
05:30:13 <tagoh> otherwise good to have at 09-22
05:30:34 <juhp> right
05:31:10 <tagoh> or if we can implement most of features prior to 08-26, maybe good to have feature testing first, and regression test later?
05:31:37 <juhp> fwiw I will probably be away on Aug 26
05:31:49 <tagoh> that would catches up if we broke anything in adding features
05:31:52 <juhp> good point
05:31:59 <juhp> yes
05:32:19 <tagoh> juhp: okay
05:32:34 <juhp> maybe basic tests on 26th plus more on 22nd for ibus
05:32:39 <tagoh> fujiwarat: what do you think?
05:32:56 <tagoh> juhp: yep, sounds good
05:34:10 <juhp> can anyone volunteer as devel for 26th?
05:34:42 <tagoh> I can
05:34:49 <juhp> I don't mind being secondary and helping but since i will be away...
05:34:51 <juhp> great
05:35:59 <fujiwarat> sounds good.
05:37:00 <tagoh> fujiwarat: okay, can you give me detailed feature list that we are expecting to add them into f16? will draft the testcases for features then.
05:37:02 <juhp> anyway we probably need to work together on the testcases for QA
05:37:14 <tagoh> right
05:37:23 <juhp> sounds good
05:37:25 * tagoh updated the feature page
05:37:34 <tagoh> okay, anything else?
05:38:10 <juhp> how is f16?  I have been able to test it lately...
05:38:14 <juhp> haven't
05:38:35 <tagoh> juhp: filed some bugs recently though
05:39:26 <tagoh> might be missing something. better everyone goes into testing
05:40:19 <tagoh> okay, better move on.
05:40:20 <juhp> yeah I will try to install Alpha TC1 again...
05:40:29 <tagoh> #topic Input Methods
05:40:44 <tagoh> juhp: or try upgrading from f15 perhaps?
05:40:59 <juhp> aha yeah maybe better
05:41:20 <juhp> or install from f15 perhaps
05:41:52 <tagoh> fujiwarat: thanks for filing bugs for engines btw. maintainers who got it for your packages, better fixing it as soon as possible, particularly if it's the default engine for language
05:42:54 <tagoh> anything else updates you want to share for IM?
05:44:31 <tagoh> nope? :)
05:44:32 <epico_laptop> pushed ibus-pinyin/ibus-handwrite to bodhi
05:45:04 <tagoh> epico_laptop: aha.
05:45:08 <juhp> I missed last's weeks meeting so didn't mention the RFE bug i filed for a yum plugin for protecting multilib of gtk modules
05:45:47 <tagoh> juhp: aha. how's it going on?
05:45:58 <juhp> no response i think...
05:46:06 <tagoh> hm, okay
05:47:04 <juhp> ah I lie
05:47:06 <juhp> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723796#c1
05:47:11 <pravins> i did some smaller fixes on marathi-typing-booster last week
05:47:19 <pravins> one active marathi person started using it
05:47:22 <tagoh> epico_laptop: cool. thanks for fixing quickly
05:47:45 <epico_laptop> welcome.
05:48:01 <pravins> and even started to fix some invalid words on marathi database
05:48:05 <tagoh> pravins: nice
05:48:18 <tagoh> pravins: did you get any feedback yet? :)
05:48:24 <pravins> yes
05:48:37 <pravins> most of the people liked it
05:48:38 <tagoh> aha
05:48:52 <pravins> i am planning to present on it in FudCOn
05:48:58 <tagoh> cool
05:49:06 <pravins> http://www.ietype.com/
05:49:29 <pravins> juhp: after adding english support, booster will look same like this ;)
05:50:52 <tagoh> okay, anything else?
05:51:11 <juhp> :)
05:51:26 <juhp> pravins, does it come with music? ;-P
05:51:51 <juhp> but yes that is what we want :)
05:51:52 <pravins> ohh, i saw that with sound mute
05:52:32 <pravins> yes, we need to find some good word list for creating database
05:52:44 <pravins> i will do that
05:52:45 <juhp> little more concerned about the words at the bottom but anyway
05:53:09 <pravins> yeah, those are not required actually
05:53:57 <tagoh> okay, let's move on then
05:54:05 <tagoh> #topic Fonts and Rendering
05:54:12 <tagoh> any updates?
05:54:53 <epico_laptop> Draft design on font configuration tools, not polish the GUI yet.
05:54:59 <epico_laptop> http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonttools/
05:55:15 <juhp> oh
05:55:17 <epico_laptop> and examples of generated configuration files.
05:55:41 <tagoh> epico_laptop: aha
05:56:24 <juhp> cool
05:56:34 <epico_laptop> :)
05:56:37 <tagoh> maybe good to think of good name for that since "fonttools" is conflicting to other :)
05:56:46 <juhp> aha
05:56:56 <epico_laptop> yeah, will change it.
05:58:27 <tagoh> okay, anything else?
05:58:55 <tagoh> or anything you have if we are missing in the agenda
06:01:09 <tagoh> if not, let's close the meeting shortly
06:02:00 <tagoh> thanks everyone for the meeting!
06:02:09 <tagoh> #endmeeting