09:59:30 <dramsey> #startmeeting APAC meeting 2011-05-11
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09:59:39 <dramsey> .fas dramsey
09:59:40 <zodbot> dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' <diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com>
09:59:46 <dramsey> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-05-11#Agenda
09:59:46 <tuanta> .fas tuanta
09:59:47 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
09:59:49 <dramsey> #chair tuanta
09:59:49 <zodbot> Current chairs: dramsey tuanta
09:59:55 <dramsey> #chair bckurera
09:59:55 <zodbot> Current chairs: bckurera dramsey tuanta
10:00:08 <bckurera> .fas bckurera
10:00:09 <dramsey> #topic Ambassador Pinging
10:00:09 <zodbot> bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' <bckurera@gmail.com>
10:00:10 <tuanta> #topic Ambassador Pinging
10:00:12 <dramsey> Hello Everyone!
10:00:13 <Suresh> .fas suresht
10:00:14 <zodbot> Suresh: suresht 'Sureshkumar Packiyarajah' <sureshp8@gmail.com>
10:00:20 <dramsey> #chair Suresh
10:00:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: Suresh bckurera dramsey tuanta
10:00:33 <tuanta> anyone else?
10:00:53 <dramsey> Harish Pillay is in Bangkok this evening and he will try to make this meeting.
10:01:09 <tuanta> hi maktrix
10:01:11 <maktrix> .fas mahayalamkhan
10:01:12 <zodbot> maktrix: mak 'Mahay Alam Khan' <mahayalamkhan@gmail.com>
10:01:25 <maktrix> tuanta: hi tuanta
10:01:42 <tuanta> #chair maktrix
10:01:42 <zodbot> Current chairs: Suresh bckurera dramsey maktrix tuanta
10:01:46 <dramsey> #chair maktris
10:01:46 <zodbot> Current chairs: Suresh bckurera dramsey maktris maktrix tuanta
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10:01:58 <dramsey> #chair
10:01:58 <zodbot> Current chairs: Suresh bckurera dramsey maktris maktrix tuanta
10:02:03 <dramsey> hahaha
10:02:10 <dramsey> Hello Everyone...
10:02:10 <maktrix> dramsey: lol
10:02:18 <dramsey> I am here to make you all laugh.  ;)
10:02:19 <bckurera> Very Good Evening for all
10:02:20 <tuanta> hello my friends
10:02:27 <dramsey> Harish Pillay is in Bangkok this evening and he will try to make this meeting.
10:02:31 <bckurera> hello tuanta
10:02:36 <dramsey> This will be a follow-up to Harish Pillay's information from last week.
10:02:37 <Suresh> dramsey: g evening
10:02:41 <dramsey> #chair Kalpurush
10:02:41 <zodbot> Current chairs: Kalpurush Suresh bckurera dramsey maktris maktrix tuanta
10:02:48 <reechee> hi dramsey good morning
10:02:49 <Suresh> hi bckurera
10:02:52 <Kalpurush> Hi all
10:02:56 <Suresh> hi Kalpurush
10:03:03 <dramsey> Hello reechee, where are you from?
10:03:09 <Kalpurush> Hi suresh
10:03:12 <reechee> nigeria
10:03:25 <Suresh> welcome reechee
10:03:28 <Kalpurush> .fas
10:03:29 <zodbot> Kalpurush: (fas <query>) -- Search the Fedora Account System usernames, full names, and email addresses for a match.
10:03:33 <tuanta> reechee, welcome, join with us
10:03:48 <dramsey> We will be discussing Asia-Pacific region, if you are interested.
10:03:49 <bckurera> hi suresh, nice to see ya
10:03:56 <Suresh> Kalpurush: .fas kalpurush
10:04:10 <Suresh> do this!
10:04:11 <dramsey> reechee, there is also EMEA, too.  ;)
10:04:32 <dramsey> Harish Pillay is in Bangkok this evening and he will try to make this meeting.
10:04:38 <tuanta> today agenda #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-05-11#Agenda should be changed
10:04:57 <tuanta> we will focus on Harish's ideas last week
10:05:05 <dramsey> Okay, let's us do that.
10:05:11 <dramsey> #topic Focus on Harish's ideas last week
10:05:17 <dramsey> #chair
10:05:17 <zodbot> Current chairs: Kalpurush Suresh bckurera dramsey maktris maktrix tuanta
10:05:31 <bckurera> yes we need to discuss them
10:05:34 <dramsey> Meeting notes from last week - http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-05-04/fedora-meeting.2011-05-04-09.58.log.html
10:05:40 <bckurera> coz there were lot of info as the meeting
10:05:48 <bckurera> i have read them
10:05:52 <dramsey> Meeting summary from last week - http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-05-04/fedora-meeting.2011-05-04-09.58.html
10:05:52 <bckurera> very interesting :)
10:05:53 <tuanta> thanks dramsey, Iam looking for it :)
10:06:01 <maktrix> dramsey: I read that too
10:06:12 <bckurera> tuanta you were with harish last week r8
10:07:21 <Kalpurush> .fas kalpurush
10:07:21 <zodbot> Kalpurush: kalpurush 'Moniruzzaman Monir' <m.mzaman99@gmail.com>
10:07:32 <reechee> thanks all
10:08:03 <tuanta> yes, bckurera
10:08:17 <bckurera> ok dramsey can we move then?
10:08:38 <tuanta> but we were not have much time
10:09:14 <tuanta> first, we should discuss more details about the idea "We need to do this FAD thing first"
10:09:19 <tuanta> I think so
10:09:28 <dramsey> +1
10:09:33 <maktrix> +1
10:09:49 <dramsey> Any news on FAD SL 2011?
10:09:52 <Kalpurush> + 1
10:09:53 <Suresh> Harish says before FAD have consider a like "barcamps"
10:10:00 <dramsey> +1 Suresh.
10:10:03 <tuanta> #topic Discuss on the idea "We need to do this FAD thing first"
10:10:06 <dramsey> #chair FranciscoD
10:10:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD Kalpurush Suresh bckurera dramsey maktris maktrix tuanta
10:10:10 <tuanta> hi FranciscoD
10:10:18 <FranciscoD> hello
10:10:26 <dramsey> FranciscoD, escapes to join us!  :D
10:10:30 <FranciscoD> :D
10:10:37 <maktrix> :D
10:10:43 <reechee> on what channel is the emea meeting happening
10:10:52 <dramsey> reechee, that would be #fedora-meeting
10:10:53 <Kalpurush> :D
10:10:57 <Suresh> so at the time we will have FAD in lk so we have to consider before go on
10:11:11 <tuanta> and more ideas about organizing FAD before FUDcon?
10:11:14 <Suresh> hi FranciscoD
10:11:35 <dramsey> reechee at 20:00 UTC, but you may check at that wiki.
10:11:42 <tuanta> FAD in barcamp-like style
10:11:50 <Suresh> bckurera: am i right?
10:12:21 <maktrix> hello hanthana
10:12:30 <tuanta> ok, please tell us more about your FAD in lk, Suresh and bckurera
10:12:36 <dramsey> FranciscoD and hanthana, we are reviewing some ideas from last week's http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-05-04/fedora-meeting.2011-05-04-09.58.html and http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-05-04/fedora-meeting.2011-05-04-09.58.log.html
10:12:59 * FranciscoD is on it
10:12:59 <tuanta> hanthana, where are you from?
10:13:10 <bckurera> we need to consider
10:13:44 <bckurera> hanthana is from Sri Lanka
10:13:50 <Suresh> tuanta: at the time we have finished our proposal for FAD
10:13:57 <bckurera> Danishka Navin
10:13:58 <tuanta> thanks bckurera :)
10:14:07 <dramsey> Suresh, sounds like a #info
10:14:20 <tuanta> bckurera, please let hanthana to introduce himself :)
10:14:45 <Suresh> #info we have finished our proposal for FAD
10:14:50 <Kalpurush> +1
10:15:06 <Suresh> am i correct dramsey ???
10:15:13 <bckurera> ok floor is yours
10:15:20 <tuanta> can you put it on wiki and share to us
10:15:26 <bckurera> suresh +1
10:15:40 <dramsey> +1 Suresh!
10:16:08 <dramsey> Perfect Suresh.  ;)  You got the power.  :)  The #action, #idea, and #info make the meeting notes very useful.  ;)
10:16:10 <Suresh> then we are going to submit to our local software companies
10:16:25 <Suresh> thanks dramsey !
10:16:34 <tuanta> +1 Suresh, good idea
10:17:07 <dramsey> How is your timeframe going bckurera and Suresh for this FAD?  When do you expect to do?
10:17:25 <Suresh> so meanwhile we are thing to announce to university students a like "competitions"
10:17:35 <Suresh> err/thing/thinking
10:17:43 <bckurera> hmm basically it is not decided yet, in July for sure
10:18:09 <tuanta> #idea FAD should be planned first, then invite local software companies, universities and organizations, especially FOSS-related ones
10:18:18 <dramsey> +1
10:18:21 <Suresh> dramsey: after f15 and as soon as possible!
10:18:37 <tuanta> I am here to learn how to make a FAD happened
10:18:38 <Kalpurush> +1 tuanta
10:18:50 <tuanta> I would like to have one in Vietnam asap
10:18:52 <Kalpurush> Me too
10:19:04 <tuanta> we are too :)
10:19:27 <tuanta> come on Suresh
10:19:30 <bckurera> FAD is Fedora Activity Day
10:19:40 <bckurera> so therefore we have to do some thing with fedora
10:19:47 * FranciscoD had a FAD a while back
10:19:52 <FranciscoD> its easy to do
10:19:54 <bckurera> and contribute towards the froject
10:19:59 <FranciscoD> get a group of folks who can sit together
10:20:09 <FranciscoD> see what open work related tickets you have
10:20:10 <bckurera> therefore we have to plan the content in that area as well
10:20:15 <FranciscoD> sit and work on it
10:20:26 <FranciscoD> we didn't have any other companies or anything, just fedora folks
10:20:43 <dramsey> Excellent, share your thoughts, FranciscoD!
10:20:47 <Suresh> tuanta: i have got an many resources and we are them how is it possible with lk situation
10:20:51 <bckurera> Therefore wt we are going to have in SL is not a pure FAD
10:21:16 <FranciscoD> here : #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Pune_2010
10:21:24 <dramsey> +1
10:21:28 <Suresh> we can do like NA  so on
10:21:31 <bckurera> it is a event with FAD + BarCamp as well
10:21:35 <tuanta> I love the idea to make FAD in barcamp-like style. it would make FADs more successful
10:21:41 <Suresh> bckurera: +1
10:21:42 <FranciscoD> more of a fedora-centric FOSS event? :)
10:21:51 <dramsey> FranciscoD, did Pune eventually get a FUDcon, too?  At least proposed later...
10:21:53 <bckurera> yes tuanta its my consern
10:22:00 <FranciscoD> dramsey: nah
10:22:10 <FranciscoD> only the red hat employees are in pune
10:22:24 <FranciscoD> and they're too busy to be able to organize it
10:22:46 <bckurera> therefore we have to focus on Fedora while giving some contribution as well.
10:22:49 <dramsey> Understood.
10:23:02 <FranciscoD> I had planned to get together with folks here in Bangalore, but I'm applying to unis etc, so I might not even be around that long
10:23:11 <tuanta> ah, it's organized by Rahul
10:23:11 <FranciscoD> bckurera: +1
10:23:27 <dramsey> bckurera +1
10:23:33 <bckurera> basically we ll be having some talks from fedora folks
10:23:52 <bckurera> then will introduce them how to track a bug and testing
10:24:06 <Suresh> our point of view in srilanka we can get local software compaines sponsorship we hope.at least we try to get becoz i have spoken to someone they said there are posibility!
10:24:13 <Kalpurush> Thats good
10:24:45 <bckurera> therefore FAD SL is not a pure FAD
10:24:53 <bckurera> but a combination of both styles
10:24:55 <Suresh> +1 bckurera
10:25:08 <bckurera> What we are focusing is the effectiveness and the output
10:25:26 <bckurera> so far the vision is to get some uni students to
10:25:31 <bckurera> work with fedora project
10:25:35 <tuanta> +1 bckurera
10:25:45 <Suresh> becoz ple dont compare with other FAD alike india or NA
10:26:07 <bckurera> Therefore I suggest we have to select the best model based on the country
10:26:09 <tuanta> it's not easy here, almost Vietnamese students are not very active
10:26:20 <bckurera> according to the situation we have to modify the content
10:26:22 <bckurera> and deliver
10:26:28 <bckurera> otherwise it wont that effective
10:26:37 <tuanta> +1 bckurera
10:26:46 <bckurera> yes tuanta thats the consern
10:26:48 <tuanta> come on, my friends
10:26:54 <bckurera> uni student should be motivated
10:27:09 <bckurera> other wise we cannot get any output from them
10:27:16 <FranciscoD> "mentorship"
10:27:19 <bckurera> So we have to use FADs to motivate them
10:27:20 <FranciscoD> anything on those lines?
10:27:44 <FranciscoD> you might also have to include an install fest? will all of them already be fedora users?
10:27:58 <bckurera> I m looking forward to launch campus ambassador program in SL soon to
10:28:06 * FranciscoD dislikes install fests
10:29:02 <bckurera> FranciscoD there are some install fest happening as soon F15 launch
10:29:10 <FranciscoD> release parties?
10:29:20 <bckurera> yes launch parties :D
10:29:20 <FranciscoD> not sure if they're the same as install fests
10:29:33 <Suresh> FranciscoD: you are correct during the whole day event we are going to explain how to install and how can work with linux a something like
10:29:35 <FranciscoD> most of them are about distributing media (and partying :P)
10:29:36 <bckurera> not alawys the same
10:29:45 <tuanta> I think they are different
10:30:07 <tuanta> yes, I like parties,  :)
10:30:17 <tuanta> +1 FranciscoD
10:30:21 <FranciscoD> at an install fest, you need to get folks (generally windows users) shrink partitions, fragment etc, then install fedora
10:30:25 <bckurera> In release parties we are not going to show them step by step how to install
10:30:47 <bckurera> in install fest you can do it step by step
10:30:51 <FranciscoD> the shrinking partitions etc gets ugly a lot, ( which is why i dislike the install fest concept )
10:30:52 <bckurera> woith the audience
10:30:58 <Suresh> FranciscoD: yes dual boot
10:31:29 <Suresh> and most of them like to use live cd as well!
10:31:48 <bckurera> Live DVDs are asked too
10:32:00 <tuanta> I think we should back to our current topic, FAD, especially the pro- ones which help us to reach to a successful FUDcon in APAC
10:32:01 <tuanta> :)
10:32:22 <FranciscoD> someone had suggested holding a *series* of *minifads*
10:32:24 <bckurera> yes tuanta u r8
10:32:28 <bckurera> I have posted a mail
10:32:30 <FranciscoD> each having a very specialized goal
10:32:35 <dramsey> reads last week's log - 10:16:17 <harish> we need to have multiple FADs and FUDcons.
10:32:36 <Kalpurush> +1 tuanta::)
10:32:40 <bckurera> asking other FAms idea on a FUDcon
10:32:44 <FranciscoD> dramsey: +1
10:32:45 <bckurera> a location ideas and so on
10:32:50 <bckurera> but i didnt get any reply
10:33:05 <bckurera> seems our FAms are not that interested on that
10:33:09 <bckurera> that=fudcon
10:33:32 <FranciscoD> bckurera: they are, it takes some time to get people involved etc
10:33:33 <FranciscoD> :)
10:33:40 <dramsey> +1 "minifads"
10:33:50 <bckurera> so I m thinking how to motivate them
10:33:56 <tuanta> I will write an idea: "it should have install fest in a FAD", ok?
10:34:03 <bckurera> while marketing FADs FUDcon within our FAMs
10:34:04 <Suresh> bckurera: we have to give more requesting to our FamSco to get our needs
10:34:24 <Suresh> bckurera: also you are correct
10:34:26 <bckurera> suresh +1
10:34:50 <bckurera> I m wondering about Install fest + Fad
10:34:55 <Suresh> other wise we cant do our event on time
10:35:19 <bckurera> folks can I raise a point here \m/
10:35:31 <bckurera> What I m stressing is
10:35:37 <Suresh> and aslo we need to confirm have tp produce CD/DVD locally or get from them!
10:35:41 <tuanta> bckurera, you are not totally right in "seems our FAms are not that interested on that"
10:35:53 <tuanta> I think it's very interesting
10:35:54 <bckurera> FAD should be customized based on the location
10:35:56 <bckurera> country
10:36:16 <dramsey> I am thinking of FAD.  Who else is thinking of FADs?
10:36:21 <bckurera> the content should match the location
10:36:22 * FranciscoD is
10:36:28 * tuanta too
10:36:38 <bckurera> count me in dramsey
10:36:43 <dramsey> #chair
10:36:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD Kalpurush Suresh bckurera dramsey maktris maktrix tuanta
10:36:56 <maktrix> dramsey: me too
10:37:25 <Suresh> +1 me too
10:37:34 <dramsey> Sounds like this meeting for Wednesday has great potential to show FAmsco we APAC are interested FAD.  True?
10:37:35 <bckurera> So you all can organize a mini FAD
10:37:47 <bckurera> dramsey +1
10:37:52 <maktrix> dramsey: +1
10:37:59 <Suresh> +1 dramsey !
10:38:03 <bckurera> mini FAD = a half day event
10:38:09 <bckurera> what you all think?
10:38:16 <tuanta> -1 bckurera, a big FAD :)
10:38:32 <bckurera> :V tuanta
10:38:43 <Kalpurush> +1 tuanta
10:38:56 <maktrix> big FAD +1
10:39:05 <bckurera> as the first step to get some experience we can start from the mini-fad
10:39:12 <bckurera> i meant it :)
10:39:22 <tuanta> FAD could be happened in a half of day
10:39:29 <bckurera> then second is the BIG FAD :)
10:39:43 <bckurera> yup tuanta that would be interesting
10:39:50 <dramsey> +1 We all do it!  :)
10:39:58 <Suresh> dramsey: i hope one of then atleastwilling to(if have time) attended the meeting with us and get answeres what are the issues currently like this
10:40:24 <Suresh> i men one of them(FAmSco)
10:40:25 <bckurera> AND folks we can have online FADs as well
10:40:44 <maktrix> bckurera: +1
10:40:59 <bckurera> you can arrange online FADs as well
10:41:11 <bckurera> for F15 testing
10:41:14 <dramsey> Suresh, good concern.  I strongly think that Harish and Kaio will review our logs and understand our mind.  If we have needs, then please voice.  Use the #action, #idea and #info
10:41:19 <bckurera> you can arrange a virtual FAD soon
10:41:23 <dramsey> #chair
10:41:23 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD Kalpurush Suresh bckurera dramsey maktris maktrix tuanta
10:41:42 <maktrix> +1 a virtual FAD will be good
10:41:57 <dramsey> #info All attendees at tonight's Special APAC Meeting are interested in doing FADs!!!  :)
10:42:10 <bckurera> suresh make it a idea
10:42:12 <tuanta> FAD should be both physical and virtual
10:42:32 <dramsey> +1 maktrix and tuanta  Tuan
10:42:44 <dramsey> If you choose FAD, Mini-FAD, cool
10:42:46 <Suresh> Harish has done during last meeting.then it will not problem for us because of we are having wed meeting with Harish!
10:42:47 <maktrix> first the virtual one for building capacity and experience
10:43:16 <dramsey> Whatever you are comfortable doing, if that makes us participate and gain more experience.  That I think is very important.
10:43:20 <bckurera> yes virtual means majority getting connected through
10:43:22 <bckurera> internet
10:43:25 <bckurera> IRC may be
10:43:27 <CyrusYzGTt> what if FAD short for???
10:43:31 <dramsey> Eventually doing physical FAD is best.
10:43:37 <FranciscoD> CyrusYzGTt: fedora activity day
10:43:38 <CyrusYzGTt> s/if/is/
10:43:40 <tuanta> we can join our local/invited Fedora contributors physically and have a volunteers to update all via #fedora-fad channel for all others
10:43:42 <dramsey> Hi CyrusYzGTt
10:43:46 <bckurera> FAD= Fedora Activity Day
10:43:53 <FranciscoD> how about a APAC remote fad
10:44:01 <FranciscoD> remote fad = virtual fad = over the irc
10:44:11 <dramsey> Tuan, "tuanta" sounds like a #info
10:44:12 <FranciscoD> FADs are used to plan FUDCons too you know
10:44:15 <tuanta> yes, #fedora-fad channel
10:44:31 <dramsey> +1 FranciscoD
10:44:36 <FranciscoD> a series of remote FUDCon planning FADs?
10:44:40 <FranciscoD> one to collect volunteers
10:44:43 <FranciscoD> one to collect ideas
10:44:49 <FranciscoD> one to collect speakers
10:44:53 <tuanta> #idea  we can join our local/invited Fedora contributors physically and have a volunteer to update all via #fedora-fad channel to other remote ones
10:45:00 <FranciscoD> another to discuss funds
10:45:01 <bckurera> FranciscoD Experience as well
10:45:09 <dramsey> +1
10:45:10 <FranciscoD> etc etc
10:45:25 <maktrix> +1
10:45:29 <bckurera> BTW what about the proposed FUDcon in malysia?
10:45:38 <bckurera> Kenegsai
10:45:44 <bckurera> is nt there r8??
10:45:52 <tuanta> FranciscoD, it's easier for us (as organizers) to make FAD in barcamp-like style
10:46:17 <tuanta> ideas and speakers are also from attendees
10:46:20 <FranciscoD> tuanta: a FAD is generally a one day event, not sure how much work you'll get done in bar camp mode
10:46:40 <FranciscoD> it takes half of the first day to meet up and get to know each other, a few more hours to decide the agenda
10:46:50 <tuanta> it's possible, FranciscoD
10:47:07 <bckurera> tuanta, cant we have the message board online
10:47:21 <bckurera> then from the previous day we can collect their topic for the bar camp
10:47:29 <maktrix> +1
10:47:30 <tuanta> yes, we can
10:47:37 <bckurera> bar camp, foo camp
10:47:42 <tuanta> +1 bckurera
10:47:43 <CyrusYzGTt> FranciscoD dramsey ...thank you
10:47:46 <Kalpurush> Thats good
10:47:55 <FranciscoD> if its just people getting together and hacking, its more an "unconference"
10:47:59 * FranciscoD hates so many terms
10:48:03 <bckurera> so we can reduce the time to complete the talks
10:48:08 <CyrusYzGTt> FAD ,,that is very less at China
10:48:10 <dramsey> #info Consider possible remote planning to collect volunteers, ideas, speakers and  discuss funds
10:48:11 <FranciscoD> meet up, decide what you want to do, sit and hack
10:48:12 <tuanta> in the day of FAD we can use a physical white board
10:48:22 <FranciscoD> +1k to white board
10:48:40 <bckurera> whiteboard +1
10:48:54 <maktrix> +1
10:49:28 <tuanta> we learn from barcamp and make it in FAD
10:49:36 <Kalpurush> Tuanta u hv a lots of idea :)
10:49:42 <bckurera> eliminating boring speeches is one good thing in barcamp
10:49:44 <Suresh> tuanta: correct way!
10:50:11 <bckurera> tuanta we ll mingle barcamp + Fad here :)
10:50:31 <Suresh> bckurera:+1
10:50:33 <tuanta> not only for hacking but also for anything related to Fedora
10:50:39 <bckurera> Suresh :)
10:50:54 <bckurera> it is good if we can do something to fedora
10:50:58 <tuanta> bckurera, great, hope I will be invited to :)
10:51:01 <Suresh> bckurera: same in my mind!ha..ha..
10:51:04 <CyrusYzGTt> I'm from China..
10:51:07 <bckurera> localization is also a good point to have in FADs
10:51:17 <Kalpurush> +1
10:51:19 <maktrix> +1 bckurera
10:51:37 <bckurera> testing localization and some hacking would sounds great :)
10:52:42 <bckurera> more ideas
10:52:50 <bckurera> we are 1 hour here
10:53:00 <tuanta> it's almost an hour, share your ideas more quickly
10:53:02 <Suresh> move on next topic
10:53:06 <bckurera> AND are we going to take up wednesday meetings
10:53:08 <tuanta> bckurera, i am typing the same :D
10:53:27 <Suresh> fedora_apac journal by bckurera
10:53:42 <bckurera> for me wednesday is not possible
10:53:47 <tuanta> #idea we should change our bi-weekly meeting to Wednesday
10:54:09 <tuanta> why not, bckurera?
10:54:12 <bckurera> if we changing the time shoudl be changes
10:54:16 <tuanta> you are here right now
10:54:24 <bckurera> changed*
10:54:37 <bckurera> Today I m free but most of the time this is working hours
10:54:48 <tuanta> yes, I see :)
10:54:51 <bckurera> not it is 4.30 in Sri lanka
10:55:06 <dramsey> Hi KageSenshi
10:55:07 <dramsey> #chair
10:55:07 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD Kalpurush Suresh bckurera dramsey maktris maktrix tuanta
10:55:10 <bckurera> if we can make it around 3:00 UTC
10:55:15 <bckurera> thats great
10:55:15 <dramsey> #chair KageSenshi
10:55:15 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi Kalpurush Suresh bckurera dramsey maktris maktrix tuanta
10:55:19 <KageSenshi> \o/
10:55:30 * Suresh i am at work
10:55:32 <bckurera> #idea change the Wednesday meeting time
10:55:50 <maktrix> the current time is good for me
10:55:51 <Suresh> have one more hour to off!
10:56:16 <bckurera> so is there anyone who need to change the meeting time??
10:56:16 <KageSenshi> haha
10:56:29 <Suresh> hi KageSenshi !
10:56:31 <bckurera> change -> 1000 UTC
10:56:36 <KageSenshi> hi all :)
10:56:44 <Suresh> how is jakartha?
10:56:48 <maktrix> hello KageSenshi
10:56:48 * KageSenshi in indonesia, got confused a bit with timezones
10:56:50 <KageSenshi> XD
10:56:50 <bckurera> we are mentining you KageSenshi
10:56:53 <Suresh> trip?
10:57:02 <KageSenshi> Suresh, in the workshop right now
10:57:09 <bckurera> so is there anyone who need to change the meeting time??
10:57:11 <KageSenshi> was teaching those guys XDV today
10:57:13 <bckurera> change -> 1000 UTC
10:57:19 <Suresh> KageSenshi: oh great!
10:57:21 <KageSenshi> now its free time
10:57:41 <Suresh> KageSenshi: hope it's going well!
10:57:49 <KageSenshi> yep went well :)
10:58:08 <KageSenshi> bckurera, mentioned me?
10:58:09 <bckurera> hello folks please raise your voice
10:58:13 * KageSenshi scrolls up
10:58:22 <bckurera> yup KageSenshi about the FUDcon :D
10:58:28 <Suresh> bckurera: you need to change time is it?
10:58:38 <bckurera> I like if you can be changed
10:58:52 <Suresh> so dramsey ! pls do another voting time!
10:58:55 <bckurera> atleast around 1330 UTC
10:59:06 <KageSenshi> bckurera, ah ok .. anything i should be aware of ?
10:59:11 <dramsey> Suresh, sounds like a #idea
10:59:11 <Suresh> bckurera: it means our local time?
10:59:22 <Suresh> dramsey: yes!
10:59:23 <maktrix> dramsey: do another doodle voitng
10:59:24 <bckurera> no no UTC = GMT
10:59:37 <bckurera> cannot we have the voting here
10:59:42 <tuanta> +1 maktrix
10:59:57 <Kalpurush> yes we can
10:59:58 <dramsey> The Wednesday meetings were to be weekly.
11:00:04 <Suresh> bckurera: not here via doodle site
11:00:14 <bckurera> shifting 3hours :)
11:00:17 <dramsey> We will see how Harish's time is, too.  Usually his timezone is Singapore.
11:00:22 <tuanta> #idea do another doodle voitng to change the APAC bi-weekly meeting time
11:00:29 <bckurera> now it is 1000 UTC
11:00:34 <bckurera> shift it 3 hours
11:00:35 <maktrix> bckurera: harish is not present, and we should not loose him doing another time change
11:00:40 <bckurera> then 1300 UTC
11:00:49 <Suresh> there will be 8.30pm night sg
11:01:07 <bckurera> maktrix you we have to disucss this with harish too
11:01:24 <Kalpurush> 1300 UTC looks good for me
11:01:45 <bckurera> ok then dramsey can we have a doodle volting
11:01:58 <KageSenshi> 1300 sounds good to me too
11:02:06 <tuanta> idea should be changed to action :)
11:02:09 <bckurera> BUT try to get the meeting after the working ours
11:02:10 <tuanta> #action do another doodle voitng to change the APAC bi-weekly meeting time
11:02:40 <maktrix> bckurera: will do that
11:02:40 <bckurera> #action change the wednesday meeting time -> Doodle Voting
11:02:41 <dramsey> The proposed Wednesday was for Weekly, we want "biweekly?"
11:03:10 <Suresh> i am ok so far this time and shifting 3 hr will be cover my traveling time to reach home so i will be in home 13000
11:03:13 <bckurera> we can ommit Saturday meeting and make wednesday the Bi-weekly meeting
11:03:28 <maktrix> +1 bckurera
11:03:35 <tuanta> +1 bckurera. it should be biweekly meeting
11:03:36 <Suresh> so i am almost ok with this!
11:04:07 <bckurera> Please have a look on this too
11:04:09 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_APAC_Magazine
11:04:17 <bckurera> i need more ideas
11:04:19 <tuanta> weekly is too close for a regular meeting.
11:04:20 <Suresh> BUT we try to have saturday ones also
11:04:34 <tuanta> we can also meet all time via #fedora-apac channel
11:04:36 <dramsey> Here's the doodle.com web site, then please set up for what times are workable for voting.
11:04:39 <bckurera> there is no need to have two meeting per week
11:04:40 <dramsey> http://www.doodle.com/
11:04:40 <tuanta> anytime
11:04:56 <KageSenshi> how about this
11:05:04 <tuanta> +1 bckurera
11:05:11 <Suresh> lect move magazine topic
11:05:19 <bckurera> shall we have a wiki page instead of doodle
11:05:25 <Suresh> err
11:05:29 <dramsey> Understood on weekly, this was suggested to do Weekly Wednesdays now for FAD development.
11:05:38 <KageSenshi> have saturday meeting -> no wednesday meeting -> no saturday meeting -> have wednesday meeting -> no saturday meting -> no wednesday meeting -> have saturday meetin
11:05:43 <Suresh> dramsey: +1
11:05:44 <KageSenshi> not exactly biweekly
11:05:52 <KageSenshi> every 9 days ?
11:05:55 <tuanta> I have to go now
11:06:02 <tuanta> I will review the logs later
11:06:06 <bckurera> tuanta +1
11:06:10 <bckurera> same here
11:06:11 <dramsey> Thank you, Tuan, tuanta
11:06:12 <Suresh> wedenesday meeting only for FAD and FADCon development
11:06:16 <tuanta> thanks all
11:06:18 <bckurera> c ya tuanta
11:06:24 <tuanta> bye
11:06:26 <maktrix> bye tuanta
11:06:29 <KageSenshi> bye tuanta
11:06:35 <Kalpurush> Bye tuanta :D
11:06:47 <bckurera> getting two meetings per week is nt a good idea i think
11:06:56 <bckurera> anyway then lets keep it as it is
11:07:06 <maktrix> +1
11:07:07 <bckurera> Will discuss FAD and FUDcon related things on Wednesday
11:07:11 <bckurera> and make it max 1 hour
11:07:14 <KageSenshi> ok
11:07:19 <dramsey> Harish was only able to make the Wednesday, true.
11:07:24 <bckurera> then as normal will have the saturday meetings
11:07:27 <bckurera> Anway more ideas
11:07:32 <Suresh> yes that's only for we are having this meeting!
11:07:33 <dramsey> Saturdays are optional biweekly.
11:07:41 <dramsey> +1
11:07:54 <bckurera> ok then it is nice
11:07:55 <dramsey> #agreed Meetings are useful.
11:07:55 <Suresh> dramsey: -1
11:08:08 <bckurera> i tot we are going to wednesay meeting
11:08:16 <dramsey> I like doing the Saturday.
11:08:17 <bckurera> with no sat meetings :)
11:08:19 <KageSenshi> Suresh, even if its compulsory only the active guys attend :)
11:08:20 <Kalpurush> So what abt APAC megazine
11:08:40 <bckurera> waiting for ideas
11:08:41 <dramsey> Suresh, my thought is for those who want to attend optional.  I will still do biweekly Saturday.
11:08:49 <bckurera> the name should be fixed on the next APAC meeting
11:09:01 <dramsey> +1 for APAC magazine
11:09:03 <Suresh> dramsey: NOT optional.because of wed we can have for who are unable to come
11:09:16 <Kalpurush> Feora voic :)
11:09:18 <Suresh> dramsey: ok got it +1
11:09:19 <bckurera> dramsey: We have to make sat meetings
11:09:23 <dramsey> True Suresh.  I am flexible, I make meeting.  ;)
11:09:28 <bckurera> wednesday is ONLY for FADs FUDcons
11:09:38 <maktrix> +1
11:09:39 <dramsey> bckurera, do you need to post mailing list for more input?
11:09:40 <Suresh> +1 bckurera
11:09:49 <bckurera> yes I need
11:09:54 <bckurera> I ll make a reminder soon
11:10:00 <dramsey> Sounds like a #info...
11:10:16 <bckurera> #action please add your ideas to APAC Fedora magazine
11:10:35 <dramsey> Okay, everyone, now my turn to go to sleep.  Good night.  :)
11:10:36 <Suresh> bckurera: it will very important
11:10:46 <dramsey> Keep those #action, #idea and #info rolling.
11:10:47 <Suresh> Kalpurush: will work with you too!
11:10:48 <dramsey> #chair
11:10:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi Kalpurush Suresh bckurera dramsey maktris maktrix tuanta
11:10:49 <Kalpurush> I hv a name idea and i done it on wiki:)
11:10:52 <bckurera> #info Name for the magazine will be fixed on the next APAC meeting
11:11:03 <bckurera> yup I saw
11:11:10 <bckurera> thanks Kalpurush
11:11:29 <Suresh> since he is currently in university so he can collect more ideas from his students as well
11:11:43 <bckurera> and thanks dramsey for the Thank You stickers
11:11:52 <bckurera> i forgot to mention it :D
11:12:00 <dramsey> take care bckurera.
11:12:03 <dramsey> Bye everyone
11:12:06 <dramsey> We can do it!
11:12:14 <Suresh> see  you dramsey
11:12:17 <bckurera> r we going to wind up
11:12:20 <dramsey> Remember those #action, #idea and #info to make our logs great!  :D
11:12:22 <dramsey> bye
11:12:34 <maktrix> bye
11:12:37 <bckurera> then will end up the meeting
11:12:41 <KageSenshi> whatelseintheagenda?
11:12:41 <bckurera> we miss Harish
11:12:43 <Kalpurush> I don't get Thank you sticker:(
11:12:44 <Suresh> bckurera: sure
11:12:46 <bckurera> is it a info :P
11:13:00 <Suresh> we will have him in next one!
11:13:21 <bckurera> suresh will catch you for planing
11:13:22 <dramsey> Kalpurush, I sent the SASE to spot, so we must wait for return.  :)
11:13:30 <bckurera> on last weeks of May r8 :)
11:13:45 <Kalpurush> #info we miss Harish in todays meeting
11:13:49 <dramsey> #info If anyone needs the "Thank you" Stickers then please send your snail mailing address.  ;)
11:14:11 <bckurera> i sent it :D
11:14:31 <bckurera> so #end meeting---
11:14:32 <Suresh> bckurera: sure
11:14:41 <Kalpurush> Ok Dramsey i am just kidding abt sticker;)
11:14:41 <Suresh> bckurera: do it
11:14:48 <bckurera> thanks for being in the meeting guys
11:14:56 <Suresh> see you all
11:15:12 <bckurera> dramsey off????
11:15:18 <Suresh> #chair
11:15:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi Kalpurush Suresh bckurera dramsey maktris maktrix tuanta
11:15:20 <Kalpurush> May be
11:15:25 <maktrix> he left
11:15:34 <bckurera> ok then will end up the meeting
11:15:42 <bckurera> Thanks again for being in the meeting
11:15:44 <Suresh> bckurera: count it!
11:15:44 <bckurera> and your ideas
11:15:45 <Kalpurush> 5
11:15:53 <bckurera> will meet soon again
11:15:56 <KageSenshi> \o/
11:15:57 <KageSenshi> ok
11:16:02 <bckurera> 4
11:16:05 <Kalpurush> Yes we do
11:16:06 <bckurera> 3
11:16:07 <FranciscoD> bye folks
11:16:07 <bckurera> 2
11:16:09 <bckurera> 1
11:16:12 <bckurera> 0.5
11:16:16 <bckurera> bye all
11:16:24 <Kalpurush> Bye:D
11:16:30 <Suresh> #end meeting
11:16:41 <KageSenshi> #endmeeting