13:11:42 <liknus> #startmeeting FAmSCo Meeting 2011-03-12 13:11:42 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Mar 12 13:11:42 2011 UTC. The chair is liknus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:11:42 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 13:11:51 <liknus> #chair gbraad yn1v 13:11:51 <zodbot> Current chairs: gbraad liknus yn1v 13:12:00 <liknus> #topic RollCall 13:12:04 <liknus> .fas ppapadeas 13:12:04 <zodbot> liknus: ppapadeas 'Papadeas Pierros' <ppapadeas@gmail.com> 13:12:04 <gbraad> .fas gbraad 13:12:08 <zodbot> gbraad: gbraad 'Gerard Braad (吉拉德)' <fedora@gbraad.nl> 13:12:09 <liknus> #meetingname famsco 13:12:09 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famsco' 13:12:12 <yn1v> .fas yn1v 13:12:16 <zodbot> yn1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' <neville@taygon.com> 13:12:26 <liknus> our agenda can be found here : 13:12:27 <liknus> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_agenda 13:12:38 <liknus> #topic Past items 13:12:54 <liknus> Larry is not here.. so skipping those 13:13:08 <liknus> gbraad, any progress on the subdomain? 13:13:14 <gbraad> nope 13:13:23 <gbraad> busy schedule these days 13:13:50 <gbraad> keep the action and move on? 13:13:58 <liknus> ok gbraad no worries... passing over to the next meeting 13:14:01 <liknus> moving on: 13:14:10 <liknus> I am still waiting for the bug 13:14:16 <liknus> about the wiki 13:14:23 * gbraad *sighs* 13:14:29 <liknus> I need to step it up and report it to the board 13:14:34 <liknus> Are we ok with that? 13:14:37 <gbraad> +1 13:14:52 <liknus> #action liknus reports bug blocking wiki update to the board 13:14:53 <gbraad> I also have two tickets open for admin. seems they are very busy 13:15:05 <liknus> hm... we can help them if they want 13:15:08 <liknus> hey kaio 13:15:13 <gbraad> .fas kaio 13:15:13 <zodbot> gbraad: kaio 'Caius Chance' <me@kaio.net> 13:15:31 <liknus> moving on to Ambassadors SOP 13:15:46 <liknus> I did the announcement but none stepped up 13:16:03 <gbraad> maybe post another message 13:16:03 <liknus> can you push people on the regional meetings to step up on that? 13:16:12 <gbraad> +1 13:16:19 <gbraad> action item 13:16:23 <liknus> ok: 13:16:43 <liknus> #action Regional Chairs push Ambassadors SOP editing on regional meetings 13:16:48 <liknus> ok moving on: 13:17:00 <liknus> We need to push forward Rahul actions 13:17:27 <liknus> anyone willing to step up for them 13:17:27 <liknus> ? 13:17:55 <gbraad> was it neville who dealt with emails for Rahul? 13:17:57 <liknus> ok I will ask on the list 13:18:11 <liknus> #action liknus posts in famsco list about Rahul items 13:18:12 <yn1_v> I went offline 13:18:23 <liknus> moving on: 13:18:29 <liknus> kaio, your items? 13:18:41 <gbraad> yn1_v no problem, pycon's connection... we know 13:18:42 <gbraad> ;-) 13:18:45 <yn1_v> last email to rahul went unansered 13:19:05 <gbraad> yn1_v rahul is more active since today. at least on identi.ca 13:19:36 * gbraad thinks kaio's presence was a glitch in the system 13:19:47 <kaio> .fasinfo kaio 13:19:48 <zodbot> kaio: User: kaio, Name: Caius Chance, email: me@kaio.net, Creation: 2008-09-10, IRC Nick: kaio, Timezone: Australia/Brisbane, Locale: en, Extension: 5114286, GPG key ID: 17BEFCFA, Status: active 13:19:52 <zodbot> kaio: Unapproved Groups: art 13:19:56 <zodbot> kaio: Approved Groups: freemedia cvsl10n famsco cla_fedora cla_done fedorabugs hgflies packager cla_redhat ambassadors l10n-commits @packager-zh 13:20:03 <liknus> hey kaio :) 13:20:09 <liknus> any news on your items? 13:20:09 <kaio> liknus, yay 13:21:07 <kaio> liknus, the media has not done yet, the battery of the OLPC was stuck because Australia Post doesn't allow lithium battery to be sent by air. 13:21:26 <kaio> (the media distribution) 13:21:37 <liknus> ok and the Legal? 13:21:56 <kaio> liknus, Classroom? 13:22:23 <gbraad> I think this was an old item 13:22:32 <liknus> ok I shall delete it then 13:22:33 * gbraad do not think it was still relevant 13:22:39 <gbraad> s/do/does 13:22:47 * liknus is also thinking the same 13:22:50 <gbraad> kaio? 13:22:54 <kaio> gbraad, ? 13:23:13 <kaio> For teaching Linux/Fedora stuffs we can do anytime. 13:23:25 <liknus> what Legal has to do with that? 13:23:28 * yn1_v think same ... not relevant 13:23:54 <gbraad> this was an old item, related to a possible RHCE overlap. 13:23:59 <gbraad> do not think this applies 13:24:05 * kaio is confused which exactly talking. 13:24:15 <liknus> about the item named : 13:24:16 <gbraad> however, some of the action points of last meeting do not seem to have been adopted 13:24:22 <liknus> legal of Fedora Classroom 13:24:44 <liknus> gbraad, I told kaio to do it.. chair has this responsibility 13:24:56 <liknus> I will review them again to add any items 13:25:03 <liknus> legal item will be removed 13:25:10 <liknus> Moving on? 13:25:23 <kaio> ++ 13:25:28 <gbraad> +1 13:25:30 <liknus> #topic New Items 13:25:51 <liknus> #topic Ambassadors Schedule 13:26:03 <liknus> http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-15/f-15-ambassadors-tasks.html 13:26:16 <liknus> According to the program we have an item approaching 13:26:31 <liknus> FAmSCo and Regional teams call for Preparation of Media/SWAG 13:27:12 <liknus> I will write the appropriate mail and call for the Ambassadors wide meetings for POC for Swag/Media production 13:27:23 <yn1_v> I had to prepare some media for FLISOL 13:27:31 <liknus> so the regional teams can request budget 13:27:39 <liknus> yn1_v, we are talking for the F15 13:27:54 <liknus> are we all ok with the next items on the schedule? 13:28:01 <yn1_v> that's my problem, flisol is pre F-15 13:28:14 <liknus> so you will have F14 13:28:20 <yn1_v> so It has to be minimum 13:28:21 <liknus> we all have events like this :( 13:28:30 <yn1_v> so I do not end with leftovers 13:28:48 <liknus> anyone any comments on the schedule? 13:29:10 <liknus> #action liknus announces next schedule items, and contacts regional leaders 13:29:15 <liknus> also something that I forgot: 13:29:46 <liknus> #action liknus contacts lcafierro about renaming the Ambassadors NA meeting page 13:29:52 <liknus> (it has to include NA) 13:30:08 <liknus> ok moving on : ? 13:30:53 <gbraad> +1 13:30:58 <liknus> ok :) 13:31:09 <gbraad> sorry, was reading up on the next topic 13:31:12 <liknus> #topic Private FAmSCo meeting for Bangladesh 13:31:32 <liknus> OK we need to resolve the issue discretely... 13:31:32 <gbraad> has a busy schedule so had not seen it before 13:31:47 <liknus> there are some allegations between the community 13:31:58 <gbraad> in that regards; all I can say is the same as you already did. 13:32:01 <gbraad> private meetings 13:32:07 <liknus> (which should not have been adopted or reported so widely, kaio ) 13:32:08 <gbraad> and end any rumour now 13:32:27 <liknus> gbraad, totally agreed 13:32:40 <liknus> Shall I set up a meeting on next Wed? 13:32:45 <gbraad> +1 13:33:02 <liknus> or shall we make our next FAmSCo meeting private? 13:33:26 <gbraad> we could it offline in the next meeting 13:33:37 <gbraad> but in that case I would like more people available 13:33:43 <kaio> I thought famsco mailing list is closed. 13:33:49 <liknus> kaio, it is not 13:33:59 <liknus> :( 13:34:15 <gbraad> I do not see any evidence or indication to believe it being true 13:34:25 <liknus> and it should not be.. we just have to be more cautious on what we say 13:34:31 <gbraad> so leave it at this for now and start a conversation off-list 13:34:49 <kaio> liknus, oh... :( 13:35:02 <liknus> I will initiate the discussion off list 13:35:03 <gbraad> if needed, include gbraad@fedoraproject.org 13:35:24 <yn1_v> I think max is right, move this to private and hear form all sides before reaching conclusions 13:35:30 <liknus> #action liknus initiates off list discussion leading to private meeting 13:35:38 <liknus> yn1_v, exactly 13:35:39 <liknus> ok 13:35:46 <liknus> that was the end of our items 13:35:58 <liknus> #topic Open Floor 13:36:10 <liknus> I will end the meeting in 5 mins if we have no more items 13:36:15 <liknus> by the way... 13:36:24 <liknus> our tickets are in great shape :) 13:36:33 <liknus> most if them are trianged 13:36:35 <gbraad> will have a meeting soon in Beijing with some vendors about Fedora participation 13:36:46 <gbraad> s/trianged/triaged 13:36:56 <liknus> gbraad, thanks once again 13:37:16 <liknus> gbraad, Also I would like you to start thinking about a FUDCon China 13:37:20 <liknus> 2011 :) 13:37:32 <gbraad> liknus, please! 13:37:33 <gbraad> :) 13:37:48 <liknus> if FUDCon APAC in India is not possible this year... I would love to have it in China 13:37:50 <gbraad> I hope this could help with adoption of Open Source in general 13:37:56 <liknus> indeed 13:38:02 <liknus> which city are you based? 13:38:06 <gbraad> Beijing 13:38:14 <gbraad> but Shanghai is also possible if needed 13:38:14 <liknus> and the rest of the Fedorians? 13:38:25 <gbraad> scathered over China 13:38:48 <liknus> kaio is from Shanghai? 13:39:06 <gbraad> s/scathered/scattered 13:39:11 <gbraad> kaio is in Brisbane 13:39:22 <liknus> I know.. I am asking his origin 13:39:35 <gbraad> HK AFAIR ;-) 13:40:05 <liknus> ok HR is also a possibility I guess 13:40:20 <liknus> Can you start the discussion on Chinese community gbraad ? 13:40:31 <liknus> (together with kaio of course) 13:40:33 <gbraad> international flights for Chinese. needs a visa... not suitable for most people from China 13:40:52 <gbraad> Shenzhen would be more suitable in that case 13:40:55 <gbraad> but we can discuss this 13:41:25 <liknus> Shenzhen.... and we can tour the factories :P 13:41:31 <kaio> gbraad #action 13:41:33 <gbraad> +1 further discuss on list 13:41:40 <liknus> gbraad, you are the local .. make out the best :) 13:42:02 <liknus> #action gbraad & kaio examine the possibility of FUDCON China 2011 13:42:03 <kaio> gbraad is closer to Chinese culture than me now. 13:42:04 <liknus> ok? 13:42:09 <liknus> hehe 13:42:10 <gbraad> +1 13:42:10 <kaio> ok 13:42:19 <gbraad> I have my wife 13:42:20 <gbraad> ;-) 13:42:25 <gbraad> soon to be ambassador 13:42:35 <liknus> hehe nice :) 13:42:38 <gbraad> @yongyuan 13:42:48 <gbraad> ok, no further info from me 13:43:17 <gbraad> kaio, from the 16th I will have more time again. so let's get the media distribution done ASAP 13:44:31 <liknus> ok ending the meeting 13:44:34 <gbraad> +1 13:44:37 <liknus> thanks all for this meeting :) 13:44:43 <kaio> gbraad, from this week I am having more time again. :) 13:44:44 <gbraad> yn1_v probably dropped 13:44:45 <liknus> see ya around and on the list 13:44:51 <gbraad> thanks 13:45:06 <liknus> #endmeeting