04:01:18 <dramsey> #startmeeting APAC meeting 2010-12-18
04:01:18 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Dec 18 04:01:18 2010 UTC.  The chair is dramsey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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04:01:25 <tuanta> .fas tuanta
04:01:25 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
04:01:26 <dramsey> #meetingname APAC
04:01:26 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'apac'
04:01:29 <dramsey> .fas dramsey
04:01:30 <zodbot> dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' <diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com>
04:01:35 <azneita> .fas azneita
04:01:35 <zodbot> azneita: azneita 'Heherson Pagcaliwagan' <herson@azneita.org>
04:01:38 <asmartgoat> .fas artg
04:01:42 <dramsey> #chair dramsey azneita tuanta asmartgoat
04:01:42 <zodbot> Current chairs: asmartgoat azneita dramsey tuanta
04:01:44 <zodbot> asmartgoat: xmartgroup 'Juan Pablo Garzon Talero' <juanpablogarzontalero@gmail.com> - asmartgoat 'Luke Martinez' <l32007luke@gmail.com> - johnhartgraves83 'John Hartgraves' <john.hartgraves83@gmail.com> - artgibbens 'Art Gibbens' <art.gibbens@gmail.com> - mhartgring 'Marco Hartgring' <marco.hartgring@gmail.com>
04:01:51 <asmartgoat> didn't work
04:01:56 <tuanta> :)
04:01:57 <asmartgoat> .fas asmartgoat
04:01:57 <zodbot> asmartgoat: asmartgoat 'Luke Martinez' <l32007luke@gmail.com>
04:02:11 <tuanta> it works fine now :)
04:02:35 <dramsey> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2010-12-18#Agenda
04:02:48 <maktrix> maktrix 'Mahay Alam Khan' <mahayalamkhan@gmail.com>
04:02:58 <dramsey> #topic Ambassador Pinging
04:03:03 <dramsey> Welcome Everyone
04:03:05 <dramsey> #topic News from FAmSCo
04:03:17 <tuanta> .fas maktrix
04:03:17 <zodbot> tuanta: mak 'Mahay Alam Khan' <mahayalamkhan@gmail.com>
04:03:29 <kaio> hi
04:03:34 <tuanta> hi, kaio
04:03:36 <dramsey> Hi Kaio
04:03:37 <kaio> new meeting time?
04:03:38 <kaio> tuanta☺ hi
04:03:43 <kaio> SAT only +P
04:03:43 <maktrix> hi kaio
04:03:43 <tuanta> you are in time today :)
04:03:45 <azneita> good timing kaio
04:03:45 <kaio> hi
04:03:47 <dramsey> Any news from FAmSCo?
04:03:48 <kaio> ha
04:03:49 <tuanta> great to see you all today
04:03:52 <asmartgoat> didn't you get the memo :) 4:00UTC :)
04:03:52 <kaio> I am just in front of p
04:03:54 <kaio> pc
04:04:20 <asmartgoat> do we have any news?
04:04:28 <kaio> I will remember XD
04:04:47 <kaio> yes
04:05:00 <tuanta> we have some FAmSCo members here
04:05:00 * azneita eagerly waits
04:05:12 <kaio> Cheryn (RH) got some freebies for LCA+FAD
04:05:41 <asmartgoat> yes, she has got money from RH to spend on swag!
04:05:43 <kaio> for media I have to get the aamount we want
04:05:50 <bckurera> hi all
04:05:55 <bckurera> sorry for being late
04:05:56 <dramsey> hi bckurera
04:06:00 <kaio> but this again relied on the attendants which I have not confirmed from local LUG
04:06:02 <tuanta> hi
04:06:06 <kaio> (or tech group)
04:06:08 <bckurera> is meeting over?
04:06:10 <kaio> bckurera☺ hi
04:06:12 <asmartgoat> kaio, i've had a chat to harish, i just need to tell him the number of media required
04:06:15 <tuanta> just started
04:06:15 <kaio> bckurera☺ yes it is over  :P
04:06:25 <asmartgoat> its just began!
04:06:26 <azneita> lol
04:06:26 <asmartgoat> :)
04:06:32 <bckurera> .fas bckurera
04:06:33 <zodbot> bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' <bckurera@gmail.com>
04:06:38 <kaio> asmartgoat☺ yes this is what I have no idea about how many is enough
04:06:45 <kaio> .fas kaio
04:06:45 <zodbot> kaio: kaio 'Caius Chance' <me@kaio.net>
04:06:52 <bckurera> hello everyone
04:06:53 <asmartgoat> we'll bring it up later
04:06:55 <asmartgoat> :)
04:07:00 <azneita> +1
04:07:17 <kaio> asmartgoat☺ :)
04:07:34 <azneita> #info cheryn (rh) got some freebies for LCA+FAD
04:08:03 <azneita> #info harish needs final number for media production
04:08:05 <kaio> luke should we forward the list of freebies to mailing list?
04:08:06 <dramsey> Do we have a guesstimate of media for Harish?
04:08:28 <kaio> dramsey☺ I dont even know how many people will be at conference
04:08:33 <kaio> LCA
04:08:43 <dramsey> kaio, understood
04:08:43 <asmartgoat> we'll have to talk about that with cheryn
04:08:45 <kaio> for the FAD, Fedora people will be like 10
04:08:54 <kaio> asmartgoat☺ yes agree
04:09:02 <asmartgoat> #action Asmartgoat: talk to cheryn about amount of media required
04:09:13 <asmartgoat> #undo
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04:09:18 <asmartgoat> #action Asmartgoat: talk to cheryn about amount of media required for LCA
04:09:31 <asmartgoat> :)
04:09:48 <dramsey> So Cheryn will help with freebies and Harish with media?
04:10:02 <asmartgoat> yes. :)
04:10:03 <azneita> i'm not sure about openday attendance but i heard 500+ attendees for lca itself
04:10:27 <dramsey> Good
04:10:37 * azneita just overheard dgilmore and NA folks taking it up
04:10:55 <bckurera> what about crating more media and make it available for Am.
04:10:57 * dgilmore peeks in
04:11:02 * tuanta wish can attend LCA+FAD :)
04:11:04 <bckurera> i think still no one have F14 media
04:11:13 <dramsey> Sounds like azneita kaio and others will need to meet up with dgilmore
04:11:16 <dramsey> Hi dgilmore
04:11:21 <dgilmore> hi dramsey
04:11:34 <tuanta> .fas dgilmore
04:11:34 <zodbot> tuanta: ausil 'Dennis Gilmore' <dennis@ausil.us> - ausilfasclient 'Dennis Gilmore' <dennis@dgilmore.net>
04:11:41 <azneita> dgilmore, LCA attendees - 500+?
04:11:42 <asmartgoat> #info harish says that media will be ready starting next year
04:11:48 <maktrix> just to inform, I've produced F14 media localy in Bangladesh.
04:11:56 <bckurera> hi dgilmore
04:11:59 <dgilmore> i was told media was being shipped to RH brisbane y harish
04:12:01 <bckurera> u new to me
04:12:04 <azneita> good job maktrix
04:12:12 <dramsey> excellent news dgilmore
04:12:27 <asmartgoat> dgilmore: yes, we are trying to find out how much media we need though
04:12:28 <bckurera> yup
04:12:36 <dgilmore> asmartgoat: ok
04:12:53 <dgilmore> asmartgoat: i suggest you get a little more than you think will be needed for lca
04:13:00 <tuanta> great news, dgilmore
04:13:09 <dgilmore> that way it can be taken home by people to be handed out at local events
04:13:09 <bckurera> maktrix great
04:13:18 <bckurera> maktrix < how about the cost
04:13:23 <asmartgoat> yes, we will get an amount for kaio me and azneita and who else amb comes that doesnt have media
04:13:40 <dramsey> Unused media may be used for future Australian / APAC events
04:13:49 <asmartgoat> #action asmartgoat to get extra media for kaio, himself and azneita also other confirmed ambassador attendees
04:13:54 <azneita> do 1k seems sufficient?
04:13:58 <maktrix> bckurera: it's 30 Bangladesh Taka per DVD
04:14:08 <bckurera> #info maktri -  produced F14 media localy in Bangladesh.
04:14:08 * azneita just floating a number
04:14:13 <bckurera> ohh its DVD cool
04:14:17 <bckurera> in USD pls
04:14:25 <maktrix> 1 US$ = approx. 70 BDT
04:14:48 <dgilmore> so ~40c a dvd
04:14:48 <maktrix> bckurera: let me check the rate and calculate
04:15:02 <asmartgoat> about 0.5 USD?
04:15:03 <dramsey> try rate calculations at www.xe.com
04:15:03 <bckurera> its ok i got the idea thanks maktrix
04:15:44 <asmartgoat> can we change topic please, dramsey?
04:15:48 <bckurera> onething what is the topic now
04:15:57 <maktrix> xe.com says 30.00 BDT = 0.425532 USD
04:15:57 <bckurera> are we still in FAmSCo news?
04:15:58 <azneita> famsco :)
04:16:01 <asmartgoat> news from famsco :)
04:16:08 <dramsey> Are we ready to move onward?
04:16:15 <azneita> +1
04:16:16 <dramsey> Sure, asmartgoat, we all have the chairs
04:16:16 <bckurera> one thing
04:16:17 <dramsey> #topic Report current Status of upcoming events
04:16:19 <tuanta> we have already moved :)
04:16:25 <bckurera> the price is high
04:16:48 <bckurera> per DVD cost is around .3 USD in bulk
04:16:52 <azneita> shall we go by events on the list?
04:17:11 <azneita> #topic FOSSin_2010
04:17:12 <maktrix> bckurera: we have only one / two produced in Bangladesh
04:17:24 <bckurera> ahh then ok :)
04:17:25 <asmartgoat> maktrix, is your media printed? with sleeves?
04:17:28 <dramsey> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FOSSin_2010 is now
04:17:43 <maktrix> asmartgoat: media is printed without sleeves
04:17:50 <azneita> it's owned by mether
04:17:53 <asmartgoat> ok.
04:18:16 <azneita> and it just happened :)
04:18:51 <azneita> reports should be coming in the next few days
04:19:01 <azneita> let's move along?
04:19:44 <dramsey> Sure
04:19:45 <dramsey> #topic FAD SL 2011
04:19:50 <dramsey> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Sri_Lanka_2011
04:19:55 <asmartgoat> Day one report is here http://harishpillay.wordpress.com/2010/12/16/foss-in-day-1-and-red-hat-enterprise-linux-6-launch/
04:20:04 <bckurera> ohh nice
04:20:07 <asmartgoat> #info day 1 report by harish for FOSSin is here
04:20:09 <asmartgoat> #link http://harishpillay.wordpress.com/2010/12/16/foss-in-day-1-and-red-hat-enterprise-linux-6-launch/
04:20:15 <bckurera> i have some updates
04:20:27 * asmartgoat loves updates. :)
04:20:31 <azneita> +1
04:20:34 <bckurera> we set a date in march 1st weel
04:20:37 <bckurera> week*
04:20:41 <dramsey> Fantastic
04:20:50 <azneita> great!
04:20:50 <tuanta> +1
04:20:52 <bckurera> so i am looking forward to start a ticket as soon i finalized all
04:21:03 <bckurera> hopefully this week
04:21:16 <bckurera> but before that i have to get some resources
04:21:19 <dramsey> bckurera, you can do it
04:21:28 <dramsey> What resources?
04:21:38 <asmartgoat> +1
04:21:47 <dramsey> Have you contacted mether and the fedora india ambassadors' list?
04:21:48 <bckurera> like CDs
04:21:52 * azneita got an SL applicant, maybe he can help
04:21:56 <bckurera> and also Am Wear
04:22:08 <bckurera> i ll talk about Am wear later r8
04:22:17 <bckurera> nice
04:22:28 <bckurera> azneita can i get his contacts
04:22:50 <azneita> of course
04:22:57 <bckurera> send them then
04:23:09 <bckurera> So 3 Am are working with me to the event
04:23:17 <dramsey> Great
04:23:19 <bckurera> callkalpa, drkmafia
04:23:34 <bckurera> so we ll have a great event 1st time in SL
04:23:36 <azneita> callkalpa is familiar
04:23:44 <bckurera> still date cannot be fixed sure
04:23:52 <bckurera> coz has to check with the university
04:23:59 <maktrix> bckurera: best wishes for your event
04:24:06 <bckurera> this can be done in Feb
04:24:07 <dramsey> Sounds like an action
04:24:09 <azneita> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Suresht
04:24:14 <bckurera> Colombo University
04:24:17 <azneita> ^^ that's him
04:24:35 <bckurera> BUT its is in 1st or 2nd Week in march
04:24:44 <bckurera> thanks azneita :)
04:24:51 <bckurera> so that is all about FAD SL
04:24:57 <bckurera> i am waiting FAD SL
04:25:05 <bckurera> but before that i need to finish Am wear
04:25:10 <dramsey> Good, anything else or next topic?
04:25:16 <bckurera> no you can move
04:25:19 <dramsey> #topic Other future APAC events.
04:25:19 <azneita> bckurera, you have a link?
04:25:28 <bckurera> please join any interested ppl with me
04:25:33 <bckurera> Fedora Am are welcome
04:25:34 <maktrix> !
04:25:40 <bckurera> what link azneita>
04:25:42 <dramsey> please maktrix
04:25:51 <azneita> FAD SL, sorry
04:25:56 <maktrix> I am having an event on 20th December in Dhaka, Bangladesh
04:25:57 <bckurera> Bangladesh you can fly here
04:25:59 <asmartgoat> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Sri_Lanka_2011
04:26:09 <azneita> thanks
04:26:14 <maktrix> I'm going to talk in Jagannath Univeristy (25,000 students)
04:26:21 <maktrix> and going to distribute F14 media
04:26:32 <azneita> great numbers
04:26:44 <dramsey> Like in a couple days...
04:27:03 <azneita> yep, pretty tight schedule
04:27:09 <bckurera> good
04:27:09 <maktrix> azneita: the university have 25k students, but my talk will be in their central auditorium with seating capacity of 500 only
04:27:14 <azneita> are you done with prep
04:27:19 <tuanta> +1 maktrix
04:27:37 <bckurera> good work
04:27:40 <asmartgoat> +1 excellent
04:27:44 <azneita> understood maktrix
04:27:56 <dramsey> maktrix, well done.  Best to you on your presentation
04:28:04 <maktrix> dramsey: thanks.
04:28:09 <bckurera> yup you can upload them
04:28:18 <asmartgoat> ^^ +1
04:28:20 <azneita> do you have the resources you need?
04:28:22 <dramsey> This is the first time I heard of this, if we discussed earlier, then this would be great topic for support
04:29:06 <azneita> +1 but I'm sure maktrix can pull it through
04:29:06 <maktrix> azneita: I've produced 1000 DVD, have sent bulk DVD to other ambassadors in Bangaldesh. And have more than 500 with me for the event
04:29:17 <maktrix> also producing T-Shirt, they will arrive in a day or two
04:29:42 <bckurera> great work really happy to hear
04:29:46 <asmartgoat> Yes +1
04:29:47 <maktrix> dramsey: I was just wondering, that my budget was approved by the last FAmSCo,
04:29:49 <azneita> +1
04:30:01 <maktrix> now there is new FAmSCo, will they reimburse?
04:30:02 <maktrix> :P
04:30:07 <dramsey> Is there a ticket?
04:30:11 <maktrix> yes
04:30:14 <bckurera> FAmSCo ppl here :)
04:30:21 <bckurera> Kaio :)
04:30:26 * azneita points to kaio and lcafiero :)
04:30:35 <dramsey> +1 bckurera and azneita
04:30:38 <asmartgoat> lcafiero / kaio, could you bring this back to next Famsco meeting
04:30:39 <lcafiero> what's the ticket number?
04:30:39 <asmartgoat> please
04:30:44 <maktrix> wait
04:31:06 <JamesM_SiteGen> What are the differences in boot speed with debian.6 with freeBSD kernal with fedora 14
04:31:30 <azneita> nice troll James :)
04:31:39 <lcafiero> ask that in #fedora, JamesM_SiteGen -- this is a meeting channel
04:31:41 <JamesM_SiteGen> troll?huh?
04:31:42 <asmartgoat> ill get OP
04:31:45 <dramsey> JamesM_SiteGen, good topic for #fedora
04:31:53 <JamesM_SiteGen> kk
04:31:56 <maktrix> Ticket #6
04:31:58 <dramsey> lcafiero, you well done.
04:32:12 <maktrix> it's within APAC request
04:32:23 * lcafiero is looking it up.
04:32:34 <azneita> try fedora-apac trac lcafiero
04:33:02 <azneita> ... and thanks a lot
04:33:36 <kaio> larry is budget manager now
04:33:58 <azneita> yep, i heard that too :)
04:33:59 <JamesM_SiteGen> And that was a meeting question, fedora speed vs debian speed. it needs to be descussed
04:33:59 <bckurera> yup got it
04:34:15 <asmartgoat> thats it james
04:35:03 <dramsey> maktrix, do you have an event wiki page?
04:35:12 <dramsey> if so, then link would be useful
04:35:15 <EvilBob> JamesM_SiteGen: You understand you are getting in the way of productivity for these people?
04:35:17 <maktrix> not until now
04:35:35 <asmartgoat> EvilBob; he's here just to be a pain at the moment
04:35:46 <dramsey> maktrix, when you have a URL then please send to mailing list then that would be useful.
04:35:50 <bckurera> ohh GOD please Ambassadors create pages in wiki and update it
04:35:53 <dramsey> Is there a URL now?
04:35:55 <bckurera> I am talking about events
04:36:02 <EvilBob> asmartgoat: Perhaps he is just confused the purpose of this meeting
04:36:10 <JamesM_SiteGen> kk i'm moving this question to #fedora-vs-debian
04:36:11 <maktrix> they have a FB event
04:36:15 <bckurera> no wiki page means no funding
04:36:23 <EvilBob> JamesM_SiteGen: Thank you
04:36:29 <dramsey> wiki page, then report...
04:36:42 <maktrix> dramsey: +1
04:36:48 <tuanta> +1
04:36:48 <bckurera> yes a MUST maktrix
04:36:50 <lcafiero> hang on, dramsey -- can I interject something here?
04:36:57 <dramsey> please, lcafiero
04:36:58 <bckurera> sure
04:37:00 <maktrix> but, my reimbursement is related with swag producing not with event
04:37:01 <lcafiero> OK, thanks.
04:37:16 <lcafiero> maktrix: have you made a reimbursement ticket for funds you've spent?
04:37:38 <maktrix> yes, I do opened and it got approved by susmit, spevack, kital
04:37:45 <bckurera> do we have a page for swag things
04:37:47 <bckurera> for APAC
04:38:17 <lcafiero> It is different than the one you pointed out.
04:38:48 <lcafiero> go to https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ and let us know how much you've spent.
04:39:12 <maktrix> lcafiero: +1
04:39:15 <lcafiero> Also, make a note of https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reinbursements
04:39:20 <lcafiero> check that
04:39:33 <lcafiero> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements
04:39:48 <lcafiero> And then if all else fails, ping me.
04:40:03 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements
04:40:14 <maktrix> I know these :) have had received reimbursement on previous events
04:40:33 <azneita> do i also need to move tickets to famsco trac lcafiero?
04:40:39 <lcafiero> Ah, good. Bear in mind, too, that RH is working slowly because of the holidays.
04:40:53 <azneita> that's duly noted
04:40:56 <bckurera> bad to hear that
04:41:07 <maktrix> lcafiero: no prob. let's end the topic here for the time being and move forward
04:41:16 <lcafiero> I don't want to take up time with this -- azneita, let me take it up with you after the meeting, but yes.
04:41:23 <dramsey> :)  Good information lcafiero !  :)  maktrix, you have actions, sounds grand.  you can do it
04:41:35 <dramsey> Move to next topic?
04:41:40 <azneita> hehe +1
04:41:41 <maktrix> +1
04:41:46 <dramsey> okay
04:41:46 * lcafiero will shut up now :-)
04:41:47 <dramsey> #topic Report current Status of upcoming events
04:41:54 <dramsey> #topic FAD brisbane + LCA
04:42:03 * asmartgoat celebrates
04:42:04 <bckurera> +1
04:42:11 <dramsey> FAD and LCA waving...
04:42:29 * azneita needs to make travel plans
04:42:39 <asmartgoat> lcafiero, is it possible for me to get my tickets reimbursed now? because im low on money and i could use that to buy accomodation :)
04:43:15 <lcafiero> I will check.
04:43:19 <asmartgoat> thank you
04:43:22 <tuanta> it usually takes about over 1 month to get a reimbursement ticket closed
04:43:26 <tuanta> it should be changed
04:43:37 <azneita> speaking of accomodation, i'm willing to share rooms if needed
04:43:45 <asmartgoat> january is spend month :(
04:43:49 <bckurera> yes tuanta +1
04:43:55 <tuanta> about 2 weeks or shorter
04:44:12 <lcafiero> so noted, tuanta
04:44:23 <dramsey> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_@_Brisbane_2011
04:44:24 <bckurera> #info azneita like to share rooms
04:44:59 <azneita> haha ^^
04:45:10 <bckurera> is that funny :)
04:45:45 <azneita> yep but i get the idea so no prob
04:46:06 <azneita> asmartgoat, is there any things that needs work going to holidays
04:46:10 <bckurera> azneita its nice to see you
04:46:16 <azneita> or they can wait
04:46:22 <bckurera> i cant find you lat weeks in IRC
04:46:47 <bckurera> i think after holidays they should wait 1 month :)
04:46:47 <asmartgoat> they can wait, im moving house on christmas eve, so i'll be without internet until it is set up
04:46:52 <asmartgoat> but probably 2 weeks
04:47:03 <asmartgoat> i'll try get internet at relatives :)
04:47:09 <asmartgoat> relatives houses
04:47:35 <asmartgoat> hmm... we'll probably need a meeting 1 week before LCA
04:47:38 <dramsey> Where will asmartgoat and azneita be staying overnight prior to for the FAD?
04:47:50 <azneita> i am
04:47:56 <asmartgoat> i'll be at a nice hotel in the city
04:47:58 <asmartgoat> :)
04:48:04 <dgilmore> asmartgoat: ill be in BNE then
04:48:06 <asmartgoat> i can get cheap rates :)
04:48:21 <dgilmore> 1 week before LCA that is
04:48:49 <azneita> dgilmore, i'm flying in weekend before LCA
04:49:04 <dramsey> asmartgoat and azneita Are you all staying at the same hotel?
04:49:15 <asmartgoat> no i'm only staying one night btw
04:49:21 <kaio> anyone will be in conf?
04:49:21 <azneita> KageSenshi should be flying in around that time
04:49:27 <kaio> (not just open day)
04:49:38 <azneita> \o
04:49:52 <asmartgoat> dgilmore and azneita will be at conf
04:49:55 <azneita> jsmith will be there too
04:49:57 <asmartgoat> (i believe)
04:50:11 <azneita> kagesenshi too
04:50:16 <bckurera> LCA a big things for APAC am
04:50:22 <bckurera> so are you all readyyyyy
04:50:28 <asmartgoat> yes :)
04:50:35 <bckurera> nice
04:50:35 <kaio> azneita☺ you will be paid by yourself?
04:50:36 <asmartgoat> are you coming to LCA bckurera?
04:50:57 <bckurera> no i m nt
04:51:00 <azneita> nope kaio
04:51:16 <bckurera> lot of probs with flying
04:51:26 <azneita> it's supposed to be covered by my sponsorship
04:51:27 <kaio> who are going to conf are paid by FAm for entry?
04:51:40 <kaio> I want to go to conf but I dont have money
04:51:50 <azneita> let's ask kaio
04:52:21 <asmartgoat> kaio, sponsorship?
04:52:27 <azneita> i suggest opening a famsco ticket and wait out an approval
04:52:35 <bckurera> kaio you should be there r8
04:52:39 <azneita> in your case, i think it's ok
04:52:44 <azneita> :)
04:52:44 * dgilmore is a speaker
04:53:21 <azneita> is this a miniconf dgilmore?
04:53:27 <dgilmore> azneita: nope
04:53:36 <bckurera> it is LARGE
04:53:58 <azneita> must have skimmed over it, i'll go look again
04:54:28 <dgilmore> http://lca2011.linux.org.au/programme/schedule/view_talk/65?day=None
04:54:37 <dramsey> Sounds like azneita, kaio, and kagesenshi must meet up with dgilmore
04:55:08 * dgilmore is looking forward to meeting up with people
04:55:10 <azneita> +1
04:55:14 <bckurera> make plans before 1 2 weeks for the event
04:55:25 <bckurera> and v ll meet again after the event right
04:55:30 <dramsey> Has the passing of media from Red Hat Brisbane to the Fedora Ambassadors been determined?
04:55:40 <dramsey> place and time that is.
04:55:48 <asmartgoat> dramsey, harish is to send media :)
04:55:56 <asmartgoat> oh
04:55:57 <dramsey> Do who
04:56:03 <dramsey> s/who/who?
04:56:10 <azneita> i'll meet with kaio first thing
04:56:14 <asmartgoat> it'll be at the event, and we'll take bits of it home (we'll share :) )
04:56:21 <azneita> he'll probably know who to look for :)
04:56:48 <dramsey> asmartgoat is only for the FAD correct?  Not the LCA, right?
04:56:50 <kaio> I will at open day at least
04:57:00 <dramsey> Whoops, open day, too
04:57:05 <asmartgoat> im there for FAD and Open Day :)
04:57:10 <dramsey> Excellent
04:57:11 <asmartgoat> yeah :)
04:57:13 <kaio> yeah I am in fad also
04:57:14 <azneita> kaio: will need help with hotel
04:57:25 <asmartgoat> kaio: open day is free :) so please try :)
04:57:45 <azneita> but that can probably wait till jan, so just food for thought
04:57:50 <kaio> asmartgoat☺ surely will be in open day
04:58:04 <kaio> azneita☺ havent booked yet?
04:58:11 <asmartgoat> hotels are around $100 AUD per/night but good ones can be up to $130AUD per night
04:58:12 <azneita> just the flights
04:58:25 <asmartgoat> azneita, book the hotel now to save money :)
04:58:32 <kaio> ++
04:58:45 <bckurera> yes booking early can save lot
04:58:48 <dramsey> remembers two weeks ago link - #link http://www.accorhotels.com/hotel-cms/gb/offers/offer-776.shtml
04:58:52 <azneita> i'm waiting word from kagesenshi
04:58:57 <dramsey> from asmartgoat posted.
04:58:57 <bckurera> money + time + confusion
04:59:17 <asmartgoat> not sure if thats outdated though
04:59:35 <asmartgoat> they are luxury hotel being cheap in that deal :)
04:59:43 <azneita> i'll confer with you guys offchannel later
04:59:47 <dramsey> W
05:00:00 <dramsey> Which hotel will you all be staying at?  Or is that not determined?
05:00:06 <azneita> #action azneita: work out accomodations for LCA+FAD
05:00:18 <azneita> it's still to be determined
05:00:21 <bckurera> i think it is good you all get 2 gether and discuss about that
05:00:25 <asmartgoat> probably the accor for me
05:00:35 <bckurera> is fine rather taking this in the meetng
05:00:58 <dramsey> Understood
05:01:15 <bckurera> today meeting seems too slow guys and sleepy
05:01:16 <bckurera> :)
05:02:06 <dramsey> Other thoughts?
05:02:11 <bckurera> so can we move pls?
05:02:17 <tuanta> +1
05:02:17 <dramsey> I suggest at latest probably a January 16th meeting to make sure you all have your ducks in a row...one week prior may not be to your advantage.
05:02:23 <dramsey> I am good to move on.
05:02:28 <bckurera> APAC plans
05:02:31 <bckurera> media??
05:02:36 <asmartgoat> +1 Dramsey
05:02:38 <dramsey> #topic APAC plans
05:02:43 <dramsey> Moving forward....
05:02:48 <dramsey> Media, Swag and other needs. - Ambassador Wear - Other?
05:03:10 <bckurera> i want to talk about Am. wear
05:03:18 <azneita> ambassador wear: still waiting for funds
05:03:20 <tuanta> yes, please
05:03:31 <azneita> can't forward money i don't have :)
05:03:36 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bckurera/APAC-shirts
05:03:39 <asmartgoat> azneita, i'll be happy to pass funds across. if you give me your paypal :)
05:03:57 <bckurera> i tried to conact harish but not posssible
05:04:00 <azneita> you now have those?
05:04:08 <bckurera> ticket is approved from FAmSCo
05:04:15 <tuanta> good
05:04:19 <bckurera> and harish to pay azneita
05:04:35 <bckurera> i got quotations and a comany is choosen
05:04:47 <asmartgoat> final price?
05:04:52 <bckurera> i ll post the image of the receipt today night to the list
05:05:02 <azneita> i believe harish is india atm for fossin
05:05:06 <bckurera> not sure as the quntity is nt yet fixed
05:05:10 <azneita> i'll try again this week
05:05:15 <bckurera> me too
05:05:23 <bckurera> i need to get some to start
05:05:28 <bckurera> seems we dont have much time
05:05:49 <bckurera> one should be around 8 USD
05:05:59 <bckurera> please fill your need @ the wiki
05:06:18 <dramsey> bckurera, when is your stop date, in order to place order?
05:06:36 <bckurera> they need 15 days to complete the order
05:06:39 <azneita> from the wiki, i'm seeing orders all over the globe
05:06:41 <asmartgoat> Post to the list, but increase the price for out of apac shipping :)
05:07:04 <bckurera> shipping should be added too
05:07:14 <tuanta> +1
05:07:18 <bckurera> its varing on the country and amount
05:07:26 <azneita> we should make that clear so people will know what they're signing up for
05:07:27 <bckurera> NAD this is not only for APAC
05:07:30 <azneita> and for how much
05:07:33 <bckurera> so anyone can order
05:07:41 <bckurera> APAC get the priority
05:07:45 <tuanta> you should ship to one address per country
05:07:59 <bckurera> sure tuanta
05:08:03 <tuanta> then receiver will send out to others
05:08:12 <bckurera> as we got money from fedora
05:08:20 <bckurera> Am do not have to pay for it
05:08:29 <tuanta> yes, I know
05:08:43 <bckurera> so we have to decide
05:08:58 <bckurera> are we giving 2 Tshirts per Am or just one
05:09:13 <asmartgoat> i want two, but its preference :)
05:09:14 <bckurera> coz some ordered 2 peices
05:09:32 <bckurera> comeon Am
05:09:35 <bckurera> i need ideas
05:10:03 <dramsey> I see Air Mail to $6, is that per shirt or mailing?  Also, would that be to Europe?
05:10:43 <tuanta> mailing fee should be per mailing, I believe that
05:10:45 <bckurera> no its for 10
05:11:00 <azneita> my suggestion is for us to move forward with production with initial money that we will get from famsco
05:11:04 <bckurera> actually it should be corrected
05:11:07 <bckurera> sorry for that
05:11:09 <asmartgoat> +1 dramsey. Bckurera,  you have to consider International mailing.
05:11:25 <bckurera> yes sure
05:11:40 <bckurera> ok then we ll print some around 50
05:11:49 <bckurera> from the money we got from FAmSCo
05:11:52 <dramsey> Understood everyone...then content on the wiki must make sure...likes idea for initial production, move forward with production.  What do you think?
05:12:53 <azneita> +1, sorry
05:12:59 <azneita> i'm slow :)
05:13:08 <maktrix> bckurera: is it possible to ship to bangladesh?
05:13:09 <tuanta> +1
05:13:09 <bckurera> anyway i try to get funds soon
05:13:22 <bckurera> y not maktrix
05:13:23 <bckurera> we can
05:13:30 <bckurera> its global
05:13:41 <bckurera> i think it is good i put a mail to the list
05:13:46 <azneita> the ticket was for $400
05:14:23 <azneita> and has been approved by spevack
05:14:23 <bckurera> yes
05:14:31 <tuanta> you should add the shipping fee to that ticket
05:14:38 <bckurera> still no payment
05:14:49 <bckurera> it is not possible
05:15:00 <bckurera> air ticket is varing
05:15:11 <bckurera> sorry
05:15:19 <bckurera> international mail fee
05:15:25 <bckurera> is varing
05:15:47 <bckurera> so we ll see
05:15:53 <azneita> it's a big undertaking for one person
05:15:57 <tuanta> but you still should have a rough estimation
05:16:12 <tuanta> I think so
05:16:16 <bckurera> as soon I got money, i ll proceed
05:16:24 <bckurera> and till that this open for discussions
05:16:38 <bckurera> we ll get the best thing we can do ok
05:16:42 <azneita> noted bckurera, i'll try to get hold of harish one of these days
05:17:01 <bckurera> so pls azneita try to get harish to the track and get money soon
05:17:08 <bckurera> we have to have wear in LCA
05:17:18 <azneita> duly noted
05:17:39 <bckurera> #action Payment for Am wear should be clarified ASAP - azneita
05:17:40 <azneita> #action azneita: Fedora Ambassador Wear funding
05:17:48 <azneita> #undo
05:17:48 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Action object at 0x16c66450>
05:17:53 <dramsey> Well done
05:18:21 <bckurera> so we are on the way :)
05:18:25 <tuanta> normally, you should have all receipts to get reimbursement; but this case, I think bckurera should have payment in advance
05:18:35 <asmartgoat> +1 tuan
05:18:41 <bckurera> yes i think so
05:18:48 <asmartgoat> #idea bckurera to get advanced payment if possible
05:18:51 <bckurera> coz the amount is hard to bear personally
05:19:07 <tuanta> so, you should have a rough estimation for all print + air mailing, bckurera
05:19:11 <dramsey> #chair bckurera
05:19:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: asmartgoat azneita bckurera dramsey tuanta
05:19:15 <azneita> the world is just slowing down for the holidays but we;ll get it done
05:19:26 <bckurera> the reason is  harish cant get contacted
05:19:44 <bckurera> i m trying hard to finish this soon
05:19:56 <bckurera> coz then Am can wear tht for LCA and so on
05:19:58 <dramsey> May be follow up after new year to make sure all is well for LCA AM Wear
05:19:58 <tuanta> then someone should help bckurera to push Harish, Max and other responsible ones
05:20:08 <dramsey> +1 Tuan
05:20:15 <bckurera> azneita is with me
05:20:16 <maktrix> +1
05:20:20 <dramsey> bckurera you can do it!
05:20:20 <bckurera> BUT hard to contact :)
05:20:22 <azneita> agreed
05:20:26 <asmartgoat> +1
05:20:28 <bckurera> i rem that dramsey :)
05:20:30 <dramsey> azneita has good karma power!
05:20:33 <bckurera> thanks
05:20:45 <asmartgoat> bckurera, feel free to email us all
05:20:48 <asmartgoat> :D
05:20:54 <bckurera> sure i ll update all
05:20:56 <bckurera> ASAP
05:20:57 <asmartgoat> if you need any help :)
05:20:58 <dramsey> Additionally, true on estimate, may be add column to the wiki order and determine/con sider shipping...post to mailing list on deadline.  You need a deadline.
05:20:59 <bckurera> with all details
05:21:00 <tuanta> #idea bckurera should have payment in advance for Polo shirts: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bckurera/APAC-shirts
05:21:09 <asmartgoat> +1 dramsey ^^
05:21:15 <dramsey> #chair maktrix
05:21:15 <zodbot> Current chairs: asmartgoat azneita bckurera dramsey maktrix tuanta
05:21:30 <bckurera> with no funds how to set deadlines
05:21:32 <bckurera> thats the thing
05:21:57 <bckurera> So its all about TShirts
05:22:02 <dramsey> Without a deadline, then funds need is not known
05:22:16 <bckurera> i put a mail decribing all ot harish
05:22:17 <dramsey> Other way to look at it.
05:22:21 <bckurera> but still no hint
05:22:37 <bckurera> ok then we ll set a dead line
05:22:56 <bckurera> ANOTHER thing
05:22:56 <tuanta> it should have a deadline, I think
05:23:08 <bckurera> this is unisex
05:23:20 <bckurera> is it ok or  we need to have difference for women?
05:23:27 <tuanta> I present a lot without a Fedora Am shirt :)
05:23:37 <bckurera> i ll set the deadline next wednesday
05:23:43 <tuanta> bckurera: no need, I think
05:23:43 <bckurera> any disagreements
05:23:53 <tuanta> +1 bckurera
05:23:53 <bckurera> femails raise your voise please
05:24:15 <kaio> -+
05:24:17 <tuanta> bckurera, you meant: female
05:24:22 <asmartgoat> any females here?
05:24:31 <bckurera> yup sorry Female
05:24:34 <tuanta> :)
05:24:37 <asmartgoat> include that in the email :)
05:24:46 <bckurera> ok we ll see
05:24:50 <tuanta> no females here, I see
05:24:55 <bckurera> last date for ideas this wednesday
05:25:02 <dramsey> Well said, asmartgoat and tuanta on e-mail and deadline
05:25:08 <tuanta> magie from Philippines
05:25:08 <dramsey> Great bckurera
05:25:17 <bckurera> then I m finished
05:25:20 <bckurera> we can move on
05:25:23 <dramsey> Other thoughts, or media needs?
05:25:29 <dramsey> Swag?
05:25:32 <bckurera> one thing with media
05:25:39 <tuanta> I burnt media myself :)
05:25:42 <dramsey> Two more topics and we are like 85 minutes
05:25:42 <bckurera> hope you all know our magazine
05:25:51 <bckurera> FOSS User magazine
05:25:55 <asmartgoat> #idea bckurera to address APAC and other amb. in email about Shirts
05:26:07 <bckurera> this time there is an interview with gerard
05:26:15 <bckurera> our APAC FAmSCo
05:26:19 <bckurera> its in sinhala
05:26:31 <bckurera> i ll add the english version to the site and post the link to all
05:26:45 <bckurera> #link http://fossuser.lk
05:26:58 <dramsey> Great.
05:27:00 <maktrix> dramsey: 85 minutes ? :O
05:27:02 <bckurera> just check the latest release :)
05:27:08 <bckurera> can v move then?
05:27:26 <dramsey> yeah, maktrix...
05:27:34 <tuanta> :)
05:27:36 <dramsey> Sure
05:27:39 <bckurera> #info FAmSCo Bradd Gerard is in FOSS User magazine, check the interview
05:27:51 <bckurera> v r mooving
05:27:59 <dramsey> #topic Classrooms for APAC
05:28:04 <dramsey> Was entered by FranciscoD
05:28:13 <dramsey> Experienced/knowledgeable folks can take small classroom sessions to help other ambassadors. Discuss this?
05:28:20 <dramsey> duly noted, idea for future then
05:28:24 <dramsey> #idea Experienced/knowledgeable folks can take small classroom sessions to help other ambassadors. Discuss this?
05:28:37 <dramsey> Okay, next topic?
05:28:45 <bckurera> i m 1000000+
05:28:59 <dramsey> #topic Open Floor
05:29:03 <tuanta> great, I can be both :)trainer and trainee
05:29:11 <bckurera> i m having some ideas
05:29:12 <dramsey> Tuan, yup!
05:29:14 <dramsey> - Brainstorming - Any Ideas that you have in your mind?
05:29:15 <dramsey> - How about developing our fellow APAC Ambassadors with Red Hat Training?!?!?!?! ==> dramsey
05:29:25 <dramsey> Go bckurera
05:29:26 <maktrix> +1
05:29:32 * asmartgoat wants to be the youngest person to get RHCSA
05:29:35 <asmartgoat> :D
05:29:40 <bckurera> please try to add Am to your social media network
05:29:43 <tuanta> :D
05:29:44 <dramsey> Get on the RHCE magazine...
05:29:46 <asmartgoat> i did the online assessment pretest :)
05:29:49 <bckurera> facebook or tweet
05:30:04 <dramsey> I there are URLs for some of the Social Media things already
05:30:06 <asmartgoat> ah, costs to much. if someone could get me in it would be cool though :)
05:30:08 <bckurera> that help us to develop the network and be KIT
05:30:14 <dramsey> Facebook for sure, twitter, too
05:30:31 <bckurera> so please ad  others and keep in touch
05:30:46 <bckurera> coz the more we need each other it is easy to develop the project
05:30:58 <bckurera> then we ll feel fedora is our home and we are one family
05:31:16 <bckurera> this is my idea :)
05:31:38 <bckurera> AND again please update wiki with all details about what you all doing
05:31:43 <bckurera> evnts and anything
05:31:57 <bckurera> and help me in FAD SL too :)
05:32:05 <bckurera> thats all for today
05:32:12 <bckurera> i spoke a lot now :D
05:32:13 <asmartgoat> i have something
05:32:19 <tuanta> :)
05:32:22 <asmartgoat> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:APAC
05:32:36 <asmartgoat> #info all APAC ambassadors related links in that catagory please
05:32:37 <asmartgoat> :)
05:32:38 <dramsey> Go asmartgoat
05:32:39 <bckurera> IS there any new Ambassadors today?
05:32:40 <dramsey> very nice
05:33:16 <tuanta> I am too old :(
05:33:21 <tuanta> :D
05:33:24 <bckurera> v know that
05:33:44 <bckurera> one asked to join to the meeting in the list
05:34:09 <bckurera> ok then seems we are done
05:34:15 * azneita needs to travel soon
05:34:20 <asmartgoat> yes bckurera i remember that
05:34:29 <bckurera> azneita please KIT
05:34:29 <dramsey> thank you azneita
05:34:35 <bckurera> need your support
05:34:35 <asmartgoat> have we completed this eventful meeting?
05:34:43 <dramsey> Last thought -
05:34:44 <dramsey> asmartgoat, the North America http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-12-08/famna.2010-12-08-02.01.log.html 02:34:33 * herlo would like to suggest we put 'Fedora takes the RHCE' on the budget for Q1 or Q2
05:35:04 <tuanta> great idea
05:35:11 <tuanta> I love that also
05:35:13 <dramsey> The North American Ambassadors are '...02:37:18 <herlo> the plan is to get some to apply and have FAmSCo or something approve applications based upon some criteria, then send 8-10 people per quarter to take the classes and/or exam(s) ...
05:35:24 <bckurera> if FAm can get some discount with RHCE it is great
05:35:27 <bckurera> what u all think
05:35:29 <dramsey> Yes, tuanta 'Tuan' would be good
05:35:35 <azneita> +1 dramsery
05:35:42 <maktrix> +1 dramsey
05:35:45 <dramsey> Tbhat is it from me
05:35:47 <asmartgoat> yes Dramsey!
05:35:49 <azneita> i'll go ahead
05:35:53 <tuanta> +1. thanks :)
05:35:53 * asmartgoat will watch this
05:36:03 <bckurera> what about my idea
05:36:03 <dramsey> I am ready to end meeting, okay?
05:36:04 <bckurera> ????
05:36:12 <dramsey> What idea bckurera?
05:36:31 <bckurera> if FAm can get some discount with RHCE it is great
05:36:35 <bckurera> what all think
05:36:43 <tuanta> I think this should be the best time for all of us
05:36:44 <dramsey> Sounds like an action
05:36:51 <asmartgoat> cool!
05:37:08 <dramsey> Discount is start, coverage would be best
05:37:14 <maktrix> +1
05:37:14 <tuanta> so the next bi-weekly meeting should take at every 4:00 UTC on Saturday
05:37:14 <bckurera> #action some discount to FAm in RHCE
05:37:20 <dramsey> #idea (14:36:18) bckurera: if FAm can get some discount with RHCE it is great
05:37:22 <bckurera> OH good
05:37:36 <dramsey> Other thoughts?
05:37:36 <bckurera> oh god we have to fix a time
05:37:44 <bckurera> why the time change suddenly
05:38:05 <bckurera> so every saturday 400 UTS is set now?
05:38:15 <dramsey> People asked and polled, that is reason...
05:38:19 <dramsey> I am flexible
05:38:21 <dramsey> Other thoughts?
05:38:25 <asmartgoat> UTC :)
05:38:29 <bckurera> then time ok fixed
05:38:31 <asmartgoat> im done
05:38:47 <bckurera> sunday moved to saturday :D
05:39:08 <dramsey> I have in the past year and a half, deltaed the timeframe at least four times, people wanted on different times.
05:39:16 <dramsey> Sure.
05:39:23 <bckurera> no disagreements :)
05:39:24 <dramsey> Anything else?  End meeting?
05:39:29 <bckurera> can we end this now
05:39:31 <bckurera> +1
05:39:34 <tuanta> yes, end now
05:39:40 <bckurera> nice meeting thanks for all being here
05:39:45 <dramsey> 5
05:39:46 <bckurera> see you all in the next meeting
05:39:46 <dramsey> 4
05:39:46 <dramsey> 3
05:39:47 <dramsey> 2
05:39:48 <tuanta> great to see all you today
05:39:48 <dramsey> 1
05:39:50 <dramsey> 0.5
05:39:52 <dramsey> 0
05:39:55 <tuanta> :)
05:39:58 <dramsey> Thank you all for attending
05:39:58 <dramsey> #endmeeting