19:00:48 <stickster> #startmeeting Insight (agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Meeting_agenda)
19:00:48 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Dec 16 19:00:48 2010 UTC.  The chair is stickster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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19:00:52 <stickster> #meetingname Insight
19:00:52 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'insight'
19:00:55 <stickster> #topic Roll call!
19:01:06 <pcalarco> is here
19:01:08 * schendje is here
19:01:13 * asrob too
19:01:37 * Sparks is here
19:01:40 * stickster (obviously)
19:03:13 <stickster> #chair schendje asrob pcalarco Sparks
19:03:13 <zodbot> Current chairs: Sparks asrob pcalarco schendje stickster
19:03:21 <stickster> #topic Last week's action items!
19:03:30 <stickster> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-12-09/insight.2010-12-09-19.01.html <-- refer to listing here
19:03:50 * stickster completed his action items -- did 4 package reviews, and also completed mockup
19:03:52 <stickster> oops
19:03:55 <stickster> #info stickster completed his action items -- did 4 package reviews, and also completed mockup
19:04:32 <schendje> #info schendje kept working, though not as much as he would've liked
19:04:41 <stickster> Sparks: Any chance you'd be interested in the other two reviews that are Insight blockers? They're just rename reviews so I expect little in the way of surprises
19:04:47 <schendje> i planned to dig in the code, but didn't do so yet
19:04:56 <stickster> Sparks: Meh, I'll save that request for later in the meeting :-)
19:05:06 * jsmith lurks
19:05:09 <Sparks> stickster: Yeah, I can do them.
19:05:36 * Sparks needs the BZ numbers
19:05:46 <stickster> Sparks: I sent to logistics list but I'll provide links in the agenda in just a bit
19:06:06 <stickster> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=InsightReviews <-- tracker bug
19:06:46 <stickster> Let's forge on ahead because I think we can cover next actions in each specific part of the agenda
19:06:51 <stickster> agreed?
19:07:12 <pcalarco> +1
19:07:18 <asrob> I hope I will fix my spec files(all of them) at the weekend
19:07:27 <asrob> +1
19:07:45 <stickster> asrob: That will be great. I will check in on email even though I'm on vacation, and move forward with the reviews once I see them
19:08:06 <stickster> #action asrob Complete his spec file changes and post to bugs for further review
19:09:10 <stickster> #info pcalarco and stickster cleared out all obsolete/moldy infrastructure tickets too
19:09:25 <stickster> #topic Packaging
19:09:51 <stickster> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=662103&hide_resolved=1 <-- shows dependency tree for tracker
19:09:57 <stickster> I've taken the following:
19:10:04 <stickster> .bug 642857
19:10:06 <zodbot> stickster: Bug 642857 Review Request: drupal6-advanced-help - Allows module developers to store their help outside the module system in html - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=642857
19:10:10 <stickster> .bug 642858
19:10:14 <zodbot> stickster: Bug 642858 Review Request: drupal6-footnotes - Allows to easily create automatically numbered footnote references - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=642858
19:10:16 <stickster> .bug 653805
19:10:18 <zodbot> stickster: Bug 653805 Review Request: drupal6-ctools - This suite is primarily a set of APIs and tools to improve the developer experience. - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=653805
19:10:21 <stickster> .bug 659005
19:10:23 <zodbot> stickster: Bug 659005 Review Request: drupal6-job_scheduler - Simple API for scheduling tasks once at a predetermined time or periodically at a fixed interval - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=659005
19:10:43 <stickster> Sparks: The two additional bugs that remain are rename reviews:
19:10:47 <stickster> .bug 646610
19:10:49 <zodbot> stickster: Bug 646610 Rename review: drupal-views -> drupal6-views - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=646610
19:10:51 <stickster> .bug 646611
19:10:53 <zodbot> stickster: Bug 646611 Rename review: drupal-cck -> drupal6-cck - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=646611
19:10:57 <Sparks> Okay
19:11:03 <stickster> Thanks zodbot :-)
19:11:48 <stickster> Sparks: If you run into any problems/questions, just get in touch via list and we can resolve. I expect these are not too problematic though, having seen the modules myself at various times
19:12:21 <stickster> #action Sparks do reviews on bugs 646610 and 646611
19:14:05 <stickster> asrob: Are there any other packages you know of that we haven't hooked to that tracker?
19:14:42 <asrob> stickster: I think there aren't
19:15:43 <stickster> Ah, I found one
19:15:46 <stickster> .bug 658989
19:15:48 <zodbot> stickster: Bug 658989 Package is missing essential dependencies and requirements - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=658989
19:16:30 <stickster> asrob: That's the problem with the -feeds module. It's missing a dependency on something you've packaged now (job_scheduler) -- the review on that is done but it's one of the ones you're working on this weekend
19:16:59 <stickster> asrob: After -job_scheduler is built and pushed you'll need to use that to fix this bug
19:17:20 <asrob> stickster: okay
19:17:42 <stickster> #info There are a lot more drupal6 related modules in the review queue -- they may not be vital for Insight but reviews would probably be appreciated. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=drupal6
19:18:01 <stickster> #action asrob Fix bug 658989 after job_scheduler package is pushed
19:18:09 <stickster> Anything else we should cover on packaging?
19:18:16 <tibbs> I promptly went out of town after indicating that I would help you folks do reviews, sorry.
19:18:21 <tibbs> I hope to have some time tomorrow.
19:18:54 <stickster> tibbs: No worries, mate.
19:19:18 <stickster> tibbs: One of them you might want to do is 646663
19:19:19 <asrob> stickster: Nick Bebout(nb) was looking for me but I don't know why, I am going to talk with his, maybe he will help me in my problems
19:19:37 <stickster> asrob: Maybe touching base with you since he's your packaging sponsor? I don't know for sure
19:19:58 <asrob> stickster: yes, he is my sponsor
19:20:17 <stickster> .fasinfo nb
19:20:20 <zodbot> stickster: User: nb, Name: Nick Bebout, email: nick@bebout.net, Creation: 2007-04-05, IRC Nick: nb, Timezone: America/Chicago, Locale: en, Extension: 5101458, GPG key ID: 154FDAF0, Status: active
19:20:24 <zodbot> stickster: Approved Groups: +sysadmin-hosted gitfpaste-server @gitimapsync cvsl10n bzrpython-fedora +fedorabugs cla_fedora cla_done gitfama ambassadors +web @gitfedora-web freemedia sysadmin-devel @blogadmin @gitauto-mass-check marketing cvsfedora @docs-writers @docs @docs-publishers provenpackager +packager irc-support-operators +sysadmin-web +sysadmin +sysadmin-noc proventesters gitfpaste +sysadmin-test +sysadmin- (1 more message)
19:20:47 <stickster> asrob: You can email him to connect up, for sure :-)
19:21:10 <asrob> stickster: I have write an email yet ;)
19:21:20 <stickster> tibbs: Also, no one has mentioned it as an absolute need, but pathauto may end up being really helpful
19:21:28 <stickster> .bug 656190
19:21:29 <asrob> oops, I have written an email yet
19:21:29 <zodbot> stickster: Bug 656190 Review Request: drupal6-pathauto - The Pathauto module automatically generates path aliases - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=656190
19:22:07 <stickster> That's all I had on Packaging -- shall we move on?
19:22:26 <asrob> yep
19:22:30 <stickster> #topic Theme
19:22:42 <stickster> schendje: You said you got a little more done, but there was more to go, yes?
19:22:55 <schendje> stickster: yep, and that's about it
19:23:02 <schendje> i'm not sure if i can get some work done during the holidays
19:23:07 <stickster> #link http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=fedora-insight-theme.git <-- repo location
19:23:08 <schendje> but if i do it'll probably be this
19:23:19 <schendje> so you'll see it appear on the mailing list as soon as i have something to present :)
19:23:46 <stickster> schendje: You're still working on the mockup, correct?
19:23:56 <asrob> stickster: I have found the solution for "hide node title problem", http://drupal.org/project/auto_nodetitle
19:24:13 <stickster> asrob: Let's go over that when we get to that agenda item -- thanks!
19:24:17 <schendje> correct, and when i'm reasonably satisfied with that i'll try to start editing the code
19:24:40 <schendje> naturally i'd like to have the mockup done as much as possible before i start coding :)
19:24:42 <stickster> schendje: Makes sense to me -- I think I gave feedback to your latest work, but are you looking for more input?
19:24:59 <schendje> hmmm did i reply to that yet?
19:25:05 <schendje> i may have forgotton, sorry if so
19:25:20 <stickster> schendje: You did, thank you!
19:25:30 <asrob> #info asrob found the soultion for "hide node title", http://drupal.org/project/auto_nodetitle
19:25:44 <schendje> but i'm pretty confident in the things i still have to do, so unless anyone has any comments i'm good, input-wise :)
19:25:46 <stickster> #undo
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19:26:00 <stickster> asrob: We'll add that in when we get to the "Views" agenda item next, thanks!
19:26:18 <asrob> stickster: ah okay
19:26:27 <stickster> schendje: OK
19:26:38 <schendje> i don't have anything else for the theme, so you guys can move on :)
19:26:40 <stickster> #action schendje continue working on theme mockup using input he's received from the list
19:26:49 <stickster> OK, will do -- schendje, thanks for all your help, it is much appreciated!
19:26:56 <schendje> glad to help!
19:27:07 <stickster> #topic Views
19:27:11 <stickster> OK, have at it asrob!
19:27:33 <asrob> #info asrob found the soultion for "hide node title", http://drupal.org/project/auto_nodetitle
19:28:16 <stickster> asrob: Oh cool! So if we also have the 'token' module, we can use this to generate the 'FWN <issue_num> - <beat_name>' titles?
19:28:26 <pcalarco> asrob: do you know if this also removes the navigation for the one page book view?
19:28:34 <asrob> stickster: yeah ;)
19:28:44 <stickster> pcalarco: I'd be surprised if it did
19:29:25 <stickster> asrob: So if we want to use this, we need two additional modules packaged in addition to Sparks completing the 'cck' rename review
19:29:32 <stickster> 'token' and 'auto_nodetitle'
19:29:45 <asrob> stickster: correct
19:29:53 * stickster notes that 'token' is a very popular module and it would definitely not hurt to package it
19:30:30 <stickster> #info The modules 'auto_nodetitle' and 'token' together will set up our FWN beat titles for us. Both will need packaging, in addition to the 'cck' rename review.
19:30:59 <stickster> #info 'token' is already in the review queue
19:31:17 <stickster> #action stickster Add bug 655954 to InsightReviews tracker, and do review
19:31:31 <stickster> asrob: Will you package auto_nodetitle then?
19:31:40 <asrob> stickster: yes, I will
19:32:21 <asrob> stickster: http://drupal.org/project/usage <-- the top ten modules are coming into the review queue ;)
19:32:46 <stickster> Awesome!
19:32:52 <stickster> #action asrob package auto_nodetitle
19:33:04 <stickster> #action stickster review auto_nodetitle package once it's in the queue
19:33:15 <stickster> It's like we have a plan.
19:33:57 <stickster> asrob: Do Views offer us a way to suppress the navigation area in a "collected" FWN issue?
19:35:01 <asrob> stickster: I think, it may be possible. But why are we using book module?
19:35:26 <stickster> asrob: I don't think we have to
19:35:35 <stickster> asrob: We started with that because it seemed logical
19:35:59 <stickster> asrob: Perhaps we should simply use Story or Page nodes, and then collect them in the view?
19:36:03 * schendje apologizes because he has to go now, good luck with the meeting and thanks :)
19:36:07 <stickster> schendje: Thank you for attending!
19:36:31 <asrob> stickster: I think, it would be good
19:36:37 <asrob> schendje: bye
19:36:46 <pcalarco> one way of solving this in the book module that was had documented earlier was http://drupal.org/node/614882#comment-2266600
19:37:16 <pcalarco> er, node not module, sorry
19:38:19 <asrob> stickster: we own some different content types and we appear those into a view
19:39:03 <stickster> pcalarco: It doesn't look like we can select Fields for any of the displays in that view.
19:39:08 <asrob> ah, today I am not good in English
19:39:12 <asrob> sorry guys
19:39:51 <pcalarco> stickster: ah, good point :(
19:40:32 <pcalarco> asrob: np, we understand what you mean
19:40:41 <stickster> Yes, we do :-)
19:41:10 <stickster> pcalarco: It might be possible if we use a 'Row style: Fields'? But then we're going against the recipe shown in that helpful comment
19:41:44 <asrob> pcalarco: I have a little problem with this FWN, can you tell me more about that how does it work?
19:42:17 <stickster> asrob: pcalarco: Do you guys have time to get together with me in #fedora-mktg after this meeting so we can talk about this View problem more?
19:42:31 <asrob> stickster: okay
19:42:32 <pcalarco> asrob: basically, we have independently written and assembled pieces of writing each week, we call them "beats"
19:42:48 * stickster hoping we can vacate here before :00 so we don't collide with next meeting
19:43:04 <pcalarco> we edit these and assemble them together, with an introduction at the beginning and this makes up an FWN issue
19:43:17 <pcalarco> that's the core of it
19:43:33 <pcalarco> stickster: I have time, yes
19:43:38 <stickster> Let's do that
19:43:48 <pcalarco> +1
19:43:57 <asrob> +1
19:44:01 <stickster> #agreed pcalarco, asrob, stickster will get together in #fedora-mktg directly after this meeting to talk about the FWN View and how to address
19:44:15 <stickster> #topic Feeds
19:44:51 <stickster> asrob: What did you want to tell us about Feeds at this point? Or have you been mainly working on packages?
19:45:30 <asrob> well, we need a custom module. There isn't contrib modules for this problem
19:46:32 <stickster> asrob: Right, I figured as much -- have you written custom modules before? And is that something you want to take on?
19:47:07 <asrob> stickster: a few
19:47:13 <stickster> #info A custom module will be necessary, contrib modules don't exist to fill our needs specifically.
19:47:32 <stickster> asrob: I've written one now :-) so I'd be keen to help
19:47:46 * stickster has learned how to read the API docs properly although he's not an expert :-)
19:47:48 <asrob> stickster: I would like to work on this but if someone help me that would be good ;)
19:48:00 <asrob> stickster: great ;)
19:48:39 <stickster> asrob: Basically, I'd need you to start it, and then I could help as time allows.
19:49:13 <stickster> But I do at least understand the process and the hooks system a little, so it wouldn't be impossible for me to help :-)
19:49:27 <asrob> stickster: sure ;)
19:49:42 <stickster> #action asrob and stickster will work on the custom module for Feeds -- asrob to start, stickster to help
19:49:56 <stickster> That's probably good for now, since we have plenty to do between now and Xmas holiday
19:50:04 <stickster> #topic AOB (all other business)
19:50:13 <stickster> #info Open floor!
19:51:05 <stickster> #info stickster is on vacation/holiday after this Friday, until Tuesday Jan 4 -- checking email occasionally but mostly doing family things. Will still work on package reviews and some mild hacking, though
19:51:41 <stickster> I'll only be watching a couple lists, but logistics@ is one of them :-) So email if you need anything from me.
19:51:48 <stickster> What about you guys?
19:52:37 <asrob> I am preparing to pass my exams but the first will be at Jan 3.
19:52:50 <asrob> so I have a "some" free time ;)
19:53:24 <stickster> pcalarco: Sparks: How about you guys?
19:53:32 <pcalarco> stickster: I'm off this Sat with the family through next Thursday; am officially on annual leave Sat. through Jan 2nd, but I'll be around and can work on stuff
19:56:29 <stickster> pcalarco: asrob: Sparks: Anything you care to do over holiday would be much appreciated! Having said that -- it's the holiday for many people and I expect lots of folks will be visiting family and so forth.
19:57:19 <asrob> ;)
19:57:20 <stickster> We can plan our meeting schedule for the next couple weeks on the list. I hope you guys have a wonderful holiday season!
19:57:41 <asrob> stickster: you too
19:57:57 <stickster> #idea Meeting schedule should be planned on the list for over holidays -- whether we choose to skip a couple or not.
19:58:02 <dgilmore> stickster: please wrap up
19:58:03 <stickster> Anything else before we close up?
19:58:10 <stickster> dgilmore: Doing just that, thanks ;-)
19:58:51 <asrob> nothing
19:58:51 <stickster> OK guys, see you on the list!
19:58:55 <stickster> #endmeeting