18:06:11 <pcalarco> #startmeeting 18:06:11 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Oct 21 18:06:11 2010 UTC. The chair is pcalarco. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:06:11 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:06:34 * Sparks_too is here 18:06:38 <pcalarco> #meetingtopic Fedora Insight Weekly Meeting 18:06:48 <pcalarco> roll call 18:06:52 * rbergeron is here 18:06:54 * Sparks_too . 18:06:58 <pcalarco> here 18:07:01 * asrob too 18:07:08 <pcalarco> welcome asrob! 18:07:16 <pcalarco> and thanks everyone for joining 18:07:28 <pcalarco> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight#Meeting_agenda 18:07:37 <pcalarco> here is our meeting agenda 18:08:15 <pcalarco> stickster suggested that we not get too far down the road for new things that asrob might suggest as he'd like to be here for this as well 18:08:44 <asrob> ;) 18:08:48 <pcalarco> #chair rbergeron asrob Sparks_too pcalarco 18:08:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: Sparks_too asrob pcalarco rbergeron 18:09:23 <pcalarco> so let's start with reviewing last week's action items 18:09:29 <pcalarco> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-10-14/fedora_insight.2010-10-14-18.00.html 18:09:40 <pcalarco> #topic review last week action items 18:09:59 <pcalarco> Okay, I can start with mine 18:10:52 <pcalarco> I was able to figure out setting the View parameters for the Fedora Weekly News issues by querying a list and playing around some, and have published two FWN issues this way 18:11:14 <pcalarco> stickster fixed the display of the beat subheadings as well 18:11:58 <pcalarco> I used Sparks' blog post as a start to a post to the Ambassadors list as well, where asrob responded -- great to have you here! 18:12:32 <pcalarco> and then I also requested a new groups.drupal.org group for Fedora, but this is still in moderation 18:13:21 <pcalarco> Sparks_too: can you report on your items? 18:15:39 <Sparks_too> pcalarco: One sec 18:15:41 <pcalarco> wondering if anyone can hear me 18:15:47 <pcalarco> okie thx 18:15:58 <asrob> :) 18:16:47 <rbergeron> yup 18:17:44 <pcalarco> while we are waiting, stickster said he didn't have time this week to make headway on his action items 18:18:13 <pcalarco> but we did basically finish the FWN Views, which is great 18:19:37 <pcalarco> Sparks_too was going to Talk to ianweller to find a good review to study, then review Flexifilter module (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=642856) 18:19:47 <Sparks_too> pcalarco: Okay, I'm back 18:19:53 <Sparks_too> Sorry... $DAYJOB 18:20:04 <pcalarco> Sparks_too: np :) 18:20:05 <Sparks_too> So Flexifliter was reviewed and approved 18:20:09 * ianweller looks up 18:20:24 <Sparks_too> He lives! 18:20:27 <pcalarco> Sparks_too: that's great! 18:20:32 <ianweller> hardly ;) 18:21:17 <pcalarco> Sparks_too: do you know if that's it as far as Drupal packaging goes for right now? 18:21:20 <Sparks_too> pcalarco: I think stickster said he would be able to work on the other package this weekend 18:21:31 <Sparks_too> I think there are two other packages 18:21:44 <pcalarco> Sparks_too: okay, good 18:21:50 <asrob> in connection with this I have a question 18:22:03 <pcalarco> sure, go ahead 18:22:55 <asrob> well, I saw tha maintainer used /modules dir instead of /sites/all/modules , why? 18:23:52 <asrob> the drupal way is that we copy my or contrib modules under /sites 18:23:52 <pcalarco> looks to Sparks_too for that 18:24:39 <Sparks_too> pcalarco: You'd have to talk to killefiz about that. I don't know. 18:25:14 <pcalarco> asrob: this is good information. We'll follow up with the maintainer as Sparks_too suggests 18:25:30 <asrob> okay 18:26:05 <pcalarco> asrob: is there a canonical place where packaging standards for Drupal are documented? 18:26:43 <asrob> pcalarco: huh, I will check, wait a minute 18:27:34 <asrob> I got it, http://drupal.org/getting-started/install-contrib/ 18:27:57 <asrob> "Obtain the module as an archive and extract the files to your Drupal installation (normally into sites/all/modules)" 18:28:13 <pcalarco> asrob: excellent, thank you! 18:28:34 <asrob> np 18:28:42 <pcalarco> we can refer the maintainer to this with our followup 18:29:09 <pcalarco> okay, we're finished with last week's action items, so onward 18:29:30 <pcalarco> #topic Fedora Insight Themeing 18:29:52 <pcalarco> does anyone know if we have gotten the theme from hiuemanshu? 18:30:06 <pcalarco> hiemanshu, that is 18:30:27 <pcalarco> I don't know the status of that 18:30:38 <rbergeron> no - he said earlier on #fedora-mktg that... 18:30:40 * rbergeron goes to cut and paste 18:30:51 <pcalarco> #topic Drupal status 18:31:03 <rbergeron> 10:48 < hiemanshu> rbergeron: well nothing much, I had problems pushing the changes yest, something with the repo, and dint have time to work on it today 18:31:06 <rbergeron> 10:48 < hiemanshu> something about fast-forward soemthing 18:31:09 <rbergeron> 10:48 < hiemanshu> something** 18:31:30 <pcalarco> rbergeron: ah, okay, great, thank you! 18:31:44 <pcalarco> so we are waiting on that still 18:32:11 <pcalarco> we will follow up with him between now and next meeting 18:32:19 <rbergeron> yes, i asked him to mail the logistics@ list if he was still having problems pushing 18:33:03 <pcalarco> rbergeron: excellent, tyvm 18:33:13 <asrob> do you have a sub-theme or anything else? 18:33:14 * rbergeron is glad to help with something :) 18:33:51 <pcalarco> asrob: I have never seen the theme so don't even know 18:34:21 <pcalarco> I presume it is a variation of what we have on 18:34:28 <pcalarco> #link http://publictest4.fedoraproject.org/drupal 18:35:03 <asrob> it looks it is sub-theme 18:35:13 <pcalarco> this is an area where we could use more than one person working on it 18:35:33 <asrob> i see 18:35:33 <pcalarco> and might be an opportunity for asrob if you are interested 18:35:44 <asrob> wow, it would be good :) 18:36:11 <pcalarco> awesome; me loves your enthusiasm :) 18:36:33 <pcalarco> we'll touch base with hirmanshu first though 18:36:42 <pcalarco> hiemanshu, gad 18:37:06 <pcalarco> okay, next topic on our agenda 18:37:25 <pcalarco> #topic: Drupal status - Views & book combo 18:37:44 <pcalarco> okay, this is working for FWN now, although it is not elegant 18:37:51 <asrob> yes 18:38:41 <pcalarco> asrob: I create a new book for each issue, and then create weekly beats which I attach as child pages to it, using weighting to sort them in the order in which they appear on the wiki 18:39:21 <pcalarco> stickster also set up the Flexifilter so that we can copy wikitext directly from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN 18:39:30 <pcalarco> which is very nice 18:39:44 <pcalarco> republishing FWN just takes a few minutes 18:40:07 <pcalarco> and then can aggregate to http://publictest4.fedoraproject.org/drupal/fwn 18:40:28 <pcalarco> this page needs some work, however 18:40:37 <asrob> well, imho it does not look good 18:40:54 <pcalarco> asrob: yes, horrible right now 18:41:16 <asrob> I would create some nodes 18:41:19 <pcalarco> each issue comes out at http://publictest4.fedoraproject.org/drupal/fwn/248 18:41:29 <pcalarco> for example 18:42:16 <asrob> I would display these nodes in a view with views module 18:42:18 <pcalarco> asrob: you mean a default node for displaying this FWN issues page 18:42:23 <asrob> yes 18:42:27 <pcalarco> asrob: okay yes, I get you 18:42:43 <asrob> I will search an example 18:43:14 <pcalarco> #action we need a new node defined for top level FWN issues page 18:43:23 <asrob> http://nxd.asrob.net/galeria-lista 18:43:45 <pcalarco> asrob: yes, that is much better 18:43:53 <asrob> so, there is an example site to my friend's rock band 18:44:00 <asrob> this is gallery views 18:44:27 <asrob> "Koncertek - 2006" -> Concerts in 2006 in english 18:44:28 <pcalarco> asrob: great, thanks for that example! 18:44:59 <asrob> views is a great tool ;) 18:45:15 <pcalarco> asrob: how does the unified FWN issue look to you now? Can we improve on this as well? 18:45:48 <pcalarco> alarification: I mean the view for a single issue, like the one I shawed above 18:46:02 <pcalarco> clarification 18:46:03 <asrob> yes I think 18:46:24 <asrob> I will help you if you want 18:46:32 <pcalarco> I am not crazy about the links to previous and next beats after each beat, for example 18:46:50 <pcalarco> that would be great 18:47:22 <pcalarco> asrob: have you applied to CLA and cmsadmin in the Fedora user accounts? 18:47:38 <asrob> I have applied CLA 18:47:51 <asrob> cmsadmin is not 18:48:26 <pcalarco> asrob: great; once that's approved, then you can apply to group cmsadmin, which stickster manages, and we can get you admin access to publictest4 18:48:57 <asrob> okay 18:49:36 <pcalarco> #action: tweak FWN issue view with asrob's help 18:50:43 <pcalarco> asrob: do you want to talk a little about Feeds and ManagingNews from your dicussion on the logsitics list? 18:51:03 <asrob> yes, I want 18:51:24 <asrob> so, the feeds module, it is a great aggregator modul 18:52:39 <asrob> a lot of people use that, it has some options like import from atom, rss, csv etc-etc 18:52:55 <asrob> oh, I forgot its url http://drupal.org/project/feeds 18:53:22 <pcalarco> asrob: what would be the decision points between whether to use Feeds or ManagingNews for our purposes, do you think? 18:53:48 <pcalarco> can ManagingNews be themed as easily as Feeds, for example? 18:54:05 <asrob> well, MN it is a complete drupal distro 18:54:26 <pcalarco> asrob: ah, okay, an important distinction 18:55:00 <pcalarco> and we don't know the licensing status of it, but Feeds is the same license as core drupal, I presume 18:55:14 <asrob> yes, MN is the same license 18:55:26 <pcalarco> asrob: okay that is good 18:56:18 <asrob> but I say, feeds is better than MN for this FI project 18:56:33 <pcalarco> asrob: do you have a sense which of the two has more momentum in the Drupal community? Are many more sites using Feeds, but MN is niche, for example? 18:56:45 <pcalarco> asrob: okay great 18:57:40 <pcalarco> #action: install Feeds module and being experimenting with this compared to Aggregator 18:58:15 <asrob> yep, while I am looking for sites which using feeds module 18:58:22 <pcalarco> #info: ManagingNews is a comple Drupal distribution/application; Feeds probably better for FI 19:00:02 <pcalarco> we are at our one hour end; perhaps I can just briefly ask about the groups.drupal.org and some advice 19:00:22 <asrob> okay 19:01:01 <pcalarco> the groups moderator suggested that we just ask in other pre-established groups for volunteers to help with Fedora Insight, rather than starting a new group; does that make sense to you, from the aspect of that community? 19:01:24 <pcalarco> I had never used groups.drupal.org much before 19:02:05 <asrob> g.d.o is a good place to find volunteer 19:02:09 <asrob> +s 19:02:09 <pcalarco> #topic Attracting new contributors to Fedora Insight 19:02:45 <pcalarco> asrob: would it be considered spam to join another group and ask for contributors? 19:03:24 <asrob> I don't think so 19:03:29 <Southern_Gentlem> pcalarco, as soon as i can get past this weekend i will try to volunteer more, i want to learn drupal 19:03:55 <pcalarco> asrob: ah, okay, well I will explore further then and reply to the moderator 19:04:10 <pcalarco> Southern_Gentlem: Hi SG! 19:04:44 <pcalarco> Southern_Gentlem: that is great news, it has been fun learning so far for me too; I've worked on Drupal 5.7 but not 6 19:05:01 <asrob> pcalarco: http://drupal.org/mailing-lists ;) 19:05:17 <pcalarco> asrob: thank you for this pointer as well 19:05:55 <Southern_Gentlem> pcalarco, i have gotten where i can install drupal but that is it at this point 19:06:23 <pcalarco> okay, we are basically out of time; 30 seconds to close; any new topics? 19:06:36 <asrob> but imho a new group on g.d.o is a good idea, at least we have an own place where we discuss anything ;) 19:07:05 <pcalarco> #info: Southern_Gentleman will probably volunteer soon as time permits 19:07:28 <pcalarco> asrob: yes, I will advocate for a Fedora home there :) 19:07:43 <asrob> pcalarco: that is it for my part 19:08:01 <pcalarco> asrob: thank you for all your great ideas and sharing 19:08:06 <asrob> np 19:08:11 <pcalarco> asrob: it is good to have you here 19:08:21 <asrob> ;) 19:08:43 <pcalarco> okay, thanks everyone for coming to the meeting, I will close it now 19:08:48 <pcalarco> #endmeeting