20:05:54 <liknus> #startmeeting EMEA Ambassadors meeting 2010-10-13
20:05:54 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Oct 13 20:05:54 2010 UTC.  The chair is liknus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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20:05:58 <nailuj24> thx for the links already
20:06:17 <liknus> #topic RollCall
20:06:27 <cwickert> .fas
20:06:27 <zodbot> cwickert: (fas <query>) -- Search the Fedora Account System usernames, full names, and email addresses for a match.
20:06:30 * liknus just type .fas and you fas username
20:06:32 <cwickert> .fas cwickert
20:06:32 <zodbot> cwickert: cwickert 'Christoph Wickert' <christoph.wickert@googlemail.com>
20:06:36 <liknus> .fas ppapadeas
20:06:36 <zodbot> liknus: ppapadeas 'Papadeas Pierros' <ppapadeas@gmail.com>
20:06:42 <egyDev> .fas egydev
20:06:43 <zodbot> egyDev: egydev 'Ahmed Mohamed Araby' <araby.ahmed@gmail.com>
20:06:45 <zoltanh7211> .fas zoltanh721
20:06:47 <zodbot> zoltanh7211: zoltanh721 'Hoppár Zoltán' <hopparz@gmail.com>
20:07:15 <cmpahar> .gas cmpahar
20:07:25 <cmpahar> .fas cmpahar
20:07:25 <zodbot> cmpahar: cmpahar 'Christos Bacharakis' <cmpahar@gmail.com>
20:07:26 <liknus> .fas cmpahar
20:07:29 <zodbot> liknus: cmpahar 'Christos Bacharakis' <cmpahar@gmail.com>
20:07:40 <liknus> ok nice :) it going to be a quiet meeting today
20:07:45 <liknus> so welcome all :)
20:07:45 <zoltanh7211> :)
20:07:59 <liknus> this is today's agenda :
20:08:10 <liknus> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:EMEA_Ambassadors_2010-10-13
20:08:38 <liknus> #topic Announcement
20:08:52 <liknus> anyone want to make an announcement?
20:09:14 <liknus> kital, ping
20:09:16 <zoltanh7211> !
20:09:23 <liknus> zoltanh7211, go ahead :)
20:09:56 * liknus I am on a slow keyboard today so sorry for any delays
20:10:12 <zoltanh7211> Szeged's meeting were successfull, we will work together on the Math Spin, report will arrives lately
20:10:22 <zoltanh7211> eof
20:10:32 <zoltanh7211> ZSeged's event
20:10:43 <zoltanh7211> ZS/Szeged's event
20:10:43 <liknus> thanks zoltanh7211 ! really looking forward for this spin :)
20:11:22 <liknus> #topic Ambassador's Schedule
20:11:53 <liknus> On the previous meeting we discussed on the regional appliance of the Ambassadors schedule
20:12:12 <t2hot> .fas t2hot
20:12:13 <zodbot> t2hot: twohot 'Onyeibo Oku' <twohotis@fastmail.fm>
20:12:18 <liknus> Unfortunately it seems that is will not be as easy as thought
20:12:48 <liknus> Having calls for Release Parties makes sense only in global scale and those were already done in our list
20:13:05 <liknus> #link http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-14/f-14-ambassadors-tasks.html
20:13:42 <liknus> We need to decide spesifically what tasks of these should be persuited regionally in EMEA
20:13:54 <cwickert> !
20:13:56 <liknus> Media production is one of that
20:14:04 <liknus> and we already take care of it
20:14:07 <cwickert> un!
20:14:39 <liknus> I believe that Release Events can be done globally and regionally just post reminders
20:14:53 <cmpahar> +1
20:14:59 <cwickert> +1
20:15:18 <liknus> Also events and swag info is handled partially by us (and in some cases we resolve it with FAmSCo help)
20:15:27 <liknus> and I believe this is it
20:15:48 <liknus> Does anyone agree on those?
20:15:55 <cmpahar> ++1
20:16:21 <liknus> Shall I write a mail outlining our specific task so we know what's happening?
20:16:30 * cwickert thinks we should not take the schedule too serious anyway and we can figure out most things by our own
20:16:55 <cwickert> liknus, please do
20:17:02 <zoltanh7211> Liknus: I think it could be helpful
20:17:06 <liknus> cwickert, I partially agree with you... we really should run it as a reminder
20:17:13 * cmpahar agrees with cwickert
20:17:18 <liknus> ok nice
20:17:43 <liknus> #agreed We need to specify the Ambassadors' schedule regional tasks
20:18:11 <liknus> #action liknus writes an email on the list outlining the specific regional tasks
20:18:14 <liknus> everyone ok?
20:18:24 <zoltanh7211> ok
20:18:33 <cmpahar> I am cool with that
20:18:36 <cwickert> +1
20:18:52 <liknus> ok nice moving on:
20:19:12 <liknus> #topic F14 Media Production
20:19:15 <cwickert> !
20:19:48 <liknus> cwickert, floor is all yours :) update us
20:20:06 <cwickert> ok, here we go
20:20:16 <cwickert> I've put something together at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:EMEA_Ambassadors_2010-10-13#Agenda
20:20:35 <cwickert> first the updates on the action items
20:20:40 <cwickert> 1. Budget: FAMSCo has approved a budget of 5000 EUR.
20:20:50 <cwickert> 2. Rel-Eng: If testing goes well, we will be able to get the images shortly before GA.
20:21:02 <cwickert> 3. Primary shipping: Christoph Wickert or one of  attendees of OpenRheinRuhr are doing primary shipping.
20:21:20 <cwickert> liknus, reminder for you: send me the list with the anchor people
20:21:29 <cwickert> but this still has some time
20:21:33 <comzeradd> .fas comzeradd
20:21:33 <zodbot> comzeradd: comzeradd 'Nikos Roussos' <nikos@autoverse.net>
20:21:40 <cwickert> ok, now to the questions
20:21:52 <cwickert> or any questions so far?
20:22:03 <liknus> cwickert, all ok :) I will send the list
20:22:14 <cwickert> ok, moving on...
20:22:24 <cwickert> there was an interesting new propsal by sspreitzer
20:22:26 <liknus> #action liknus compiles and sends the list of anchors to cwickert
20:22:34 <cwickert> all desktop spins on one DVD
20:22:44 <cwickert> #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2010-October/015701.html
20:23:02 * liknus is not so sure still about it
20:23:17 <cwickert> the media works fine and we get rid of many problems, e.g. how many GNOME/KDE/Xfce/LXDe
20:23:25 <cwickert> liknus, go ahead
20:24:01 <liknus> cwickert, I am just worried if rel-eng is ok with that and if the rest of fedora is ok with that
20:24:23 * cmpahar agreeable with all spins in one dvd
20:24:27 <liknus> also what is the practical usage of it and if we may move to USB on the long term
20:24:44 <liknus> but I am still ok if we all agree :)
20:24:46 <liknus> eof
20:24:46 <cwickert> ok, to answer your questions
20:24:53 <cwickert> second one first
20:25:08 <cwickert> it's only for this release cycle, we can still do something else next time
20:25:14 <cwickert> e.g move to USB or whatever
20:25:17 <liknus> cwickert, thats seems nice :)
20:25:21 <cwickert> first question
20:25:29 <cwickert> seems to be indeed kind of a problem
20:25:29 <liknus> we like to experiment I guess :)
20:25:45 <cwickert> Paul has indicated that we need trademakr approval from the board
20:25:56 <cwickert> this will slow us down as the next meeting is on monday
20:26:03 <cwickert> but I think we can make it
20:26:11 * liknus was pretty sure that we will need sth like that
20:26:24 <cwickert> I don't understand why we need the trademark as all spins already have been granted it
20:26:35 <cwickert> anyway, typical board concerns it seems...
20:26:51 <cwickert> I'm more interested in the technical questions
20:27:02 <liknus> cwickert, indeed for the board
20:27:03 <cwickert> the biggest is: should we go for dual layer
20:27:19 <cwickert> and then do 32 and 64 bit on one DVD?
20:27:34 * liknus I like to experiment and this was never before for Linux Distro :) so lets do that!
20:27:40 <t2hot> ?
20:27:51 <cwickert> t2hot, go ahead
20:28:16 <t2hot> Does dual layer require special hardware?
20:28:31 <t2hot> do we need to get special drives? eof
20:28:33 <t2hot> e3of
20:28:37 <liknus> t2hot, typicaly not
20:28:42 <cwickert> t2hot, nope, only a veeeery few DVD drives are not capable of dual layer
20:28:45 <cmpahar> no
20:28:53 <liknus> t2hot, although some old DVD will have probs
20:28:53 <cwickert> I haven't seen any
20:29:07 <cwickert> but very rarely
20:29:25 <cwickert> really, I have never seen such a device, I have only heard of them
20:29:39 <cmpahar> !
20:29:46 <liknus> cmpahar, go ahead
20:29:47 <cwickert> cmpahar, yes please
20:30:06 <cmpahar_> i will write from here now
20:30:43 <cmpahar_> well, by producing a dual layer DVD does not stop us for having the rest-old flavors in our site
20:30:49 <cmpahar_> for downloading
20:31:06 <cmpahar_> so that answers many of questions
20:31:07 <cmpahar_> eof
20:31:11 <cwickert> indeed, we are only talking about media for events
20:31:34 <cwickert> t2hot, how popular are DVD drives in Africa?
20:32:00 <t2hot> commonplace
20:32:15 <cwickert> ok, then I have no conerns
20:32:25 <liknus> ok so we are alright with that
20:32:26 <cwickert> anybody else with concerns?
20:32:36 <cwickert> if so. speak up NOW :)
20:32:42 <liknus> so cwickert we only need aproval by board ?
20:32:57 <cwickert> yes, I think rel-eng will not be a problem
20:32:58 <liknus> so we finalize it after next Monday
20:33:02 <liknus> ok nice
20:33:06 <cwickert> but we need to agree on numbers
20:33:21 <cwickert> my proposal
20:33:22 <t2hot> ?
20:33:24 <liknus> next meeting?
20:33:34 <cwickert> lets to this now please
20:33:39 <cwickert> t2hot, go ahead
20:33:44 <liknus> cwickert, go ahead
20:33:56 <cwickert> t2hot wanted to ask something
20:34:01 <t2hot> Just a petit concern ... might not be necessary
20:34:21 <liknus> t2hot, please :)
20:34:32 <zoltanh7211> t2hot: say it
20:34:32 <t2hot> If our Drives can read dual layer ... do must burners (eg brasero) BURN such?
20:34:54 <t2hot> I mean can one duplicate it?
20:35:07 <cwickert> t2hot, all software can do it, for hardware it is the same as with reading
20:35:08 * cmpahar i think we can
20:35:09 <liknus> not always
20:35:10 <t2hot> speaking from a freemedia perspective
20:35:27 <cwickert> t2hot, we will still have the usual media
20:35:35 <liknus> DL write is not always there in DL read
20:35:41 <cwickert> this is just for give-away on events, not for free media
20:35:49 <liknus> t2hot, yeap we will also have the ordinary media
20:35:58 <t2hot> Ok then
20:36:02 <t2hot> eof
20:36:15 <cwickert> ok, my propsal:
20:36:38 <cwickert> do install DVD as usual, to cover people without dual layer hardware
20:36:51 <cwickert> and because it does not work with anaconda atm anway
20:37:18 <cwickert> for the live media move to the super-duper-all-in-one- disc
20:37:28 <cwickert> Fedora ultimate if you will :)
20:37:38 <cwickert> and let's use the money we have
20:37:54 <cwickert> there are 3 quotes at http://sspreitzer.fedorapeople.org/mediaquotes/F14/quote_121010_DE.pdf
20:38:29 <zoltanh7211> !
20:38:34 <liknus> seems ok in numbers to me
20:38:37 <liknus> zoltanh7211,
20:38:38 <cwickert> we could easily do 3000 install and 3000 dual layer live for 4100 EUR
20:38:46 <liknus> oops sorry ... zoltanh7211 wait
20:38:50 <cwickert> and still have money for shipping
20:38:56 <cwickert> and have more media than ever before
20:39:05 <cwickert> zoltanh7211, go ahead
20:39:07 <liknus> cwickert, seems excellent!
20:39:13 <zoltanh7211> just sidenote: Suse already shipping to their users DL, or multiple discs
20:39:31 <cwickert> zoltanh7211, who is suse? ;)
20:39:41 <cmpahar> opensuse
20:39:47 <zoltanh7211> and there the basic installer is Live DVD single layer duble sided
20:39:48 <cmpahar> the linux operating system
20:39:48 <cwickert> i know, just kidding
20:39:52 <cwickert> do we care for them - not really
20:39:54 <zoltanh7211> ;)
20:40:07 <cwickert> we still have something new that nobody has
20:40:11 * liknus the ones not existing anymore?
20:40:21 <cwickert> because AFAIK SUSE does dual sided DVDs
20:40:36 <cwickert> and they are not doing spins
20:40:58 <cwickert> so if everybody is fine, we go for 3000 Install and 3000 dual layer live.
20:41:01 <cwickert> votes please
20:41:02 <zoltanh7211> Should we ask for artwork, or later on?
20:41:12 <liknus> +1 for me
20:41:18 <cwickert> +1 obviously :)
20:41:20 <zoltanh7211> +1
20:41:21 <liknus> zoltanh7211, I will take caer of it
20:41:22 <cmpahar> +1
20:41:23 <comzeradd> +1 :)
20:41:38 <cwickert> cool, anybody not happy?
20:41:47 <zoltanh7211> One more question
20:41:55 <liknus> we will be "first" again :)
20:41:58 <cwickert> zoltanh7211, artwork should not be the problem
20:42:11 <liknus> cwickert, I have the ticket no worries
20:42:14 <cwickert> we just take the normal artwork from the wiki and change the text a bit
20:42:15 <zoltanh7211> Is it possible to creating an limited edition - an collectable?
20:42:32 <cwickert> zoltanh7211, sure, if you pay for it ;)
20:42:42 <cmpahar> ?
20:42:53 <liknus> guys lets not get to wide on that
20:43:00 <liknus> we reached a decision
20:43:01 <liknus> cmpahar,
20:43:04 <cwickert> limited editions will be fsckin expemsive. small batches are very expensive
20:43:04 <zoltanh7211> cwickert: well, ok - just an idea
20:43:13 <liknus> #agreed 3000 install and 3000 dual layer live for 4100 EUR
20:43:17 <cwickert> this is a lesson we learned from Xfce and LXDE last time
20:43:18 <cmpahar> zoltanh7211, what is a limited edition?
20:43:35 <cwickert> 4143,58 EUR to be precise
20:44:22 <cmpahar> well?
20:44:28 <zoltanh7211> cmpahar - I mean as an reward
20:44:38 <liknus> cmpahar, zoltanh7211 please discuss limited edition on the list or private :)
20:44:52 * cmpahar liknus yes boss :)
20:44:52 <liknus> (gold / platinum etc also :P )
20:44:53 <zoltanh7211> liknus - ok
20:45:17 <liknus> thanks cwickert and sspreitzer for this nice idea :)
20:45:28 <liknus> I am pretty sure it will be awesome
20:45:32 <liknus> so moving on :)
20:45:39 <cwickert> it was sspreitzer who did most of it
20:45:41 <cwickert> eof
20:45:46 <cwickert> thanks everybody
20:46:03 <liknus> #topic Events
20:46:09 <liknus> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#EMEA-FY11Q3
20:46:45 <liknus> we had an excellent Athens Digital Week with cmpahar and comzeradd and other Greek Fedora guys and girls :)
20:46:55 <liknus> We still need to write the reports on that
20:47:11 <liknus> #action cmpahar comzeradd liknus write reports from ADW 2010
20:47:43 <liknus> for the record we had 3 presentations and we kicked-a*&s on the Distro Panel/War
20:48:06 <liknus> anyone on anyother event?
20:48:31 <cwickert> !
20:48:37 <liknus> cwickert,
20:48:45 <cwickert> Gerold announced the EMEA ambassadors FAD in Rheinfelden
20:48:55 <cwickert> it will take place in November
20:49:04 <cwickert> there is no wiki page yet, just a mail
20:49:18 <cwickert> if you want to go there, reply to GeroldKa in private
20:49:27 <cwickert> we should try to get as many people there
20:49:37 <liknus> oh yeap :) thanks cwickert for noting that :) I guess we shall have a wiki in some time
20:49:48 <cwickert> because the FAD is important for the coordination of th ambassadors work in EMEA
20:50:00 <liknus> Unfortunately I will be in Vietnam representing fedora in FOSS.ASIA :(
20:50:02 <cwickert> and it will be the last thing that GeroldKa does before he resigns
20:50:16 <cwickert> we should also think of a present for him
20:50:25 * cmpahar if I find time I will be more than glad to join you!
20:50:26 <liknus> cwickert, well said
20:50:55 <cwickert> I'm thankful for everything GeroldKa did and it is sad to see him leave
20:50:59 * cmpahar s/glad/happy
20:51:06 <cwickert> we shoud give him a warm farewell
20:51:08 <cwickert> eof
20:51:19 <cmpahar> and a warm hag!
20:51:27 <cmpahar> s/hag/hug
20:51:29 <liknus> thanks cwickert lets hope we change his mind
20:51:37 <cwickert> liknus, he will not
20:51:51 <cwickert> if he decides something, there is no way to make him change his ming
20:51:52 <cwickert> mind
20:52:02 <liknus> anyway, i still hope
20:52:05 <liknus> :)
20:52:12 <liknus> Anyone any other event?
20:52:14 <cmpahar> cwickert, that is GeroldKa we love..
20:52:22 <cwickert> !
20:52:36 <cwickert> OpenRheinRuhr of course, I thought nailuj24 had questions
20:52:56 <liknus> cwickert, or nailuj24 go ahead
20:53:10 <nailuj24> !
20:53:18 <cwickert> rooms are 25 EUR/night or 45 for a double
20:53:25 <cwickert> everything with breakfast
20:53:35 <nailuj24> X
20:53:37 <cwickert> nailuj24, please
20:53:48 <nailuj24> cwickert: it's okay, i see you already started summarizing ;)
20:54:19 <cwickert> if you need a room, mail julian@fedoraproject.org
20:54:44 <cwickert> more questions on OpenRheinRuhr?
20:55:18 <cwickert> ok, last but not least there is OpenSUSE conference next week in Nuremberg
20:55:29 <cwickert> #link http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Conference
20:55:29 <liknus> (not least? :P )
20:55:34 <cwickert> ;)
20:55:42 <egyDev> ?
20:55:45 <cwickert> I will be there and a few more Fedora contributors too
20:55:57 <liknus> trying to eat on the corpse?
20:56:10 <cwickert> hahaha
20:56:42 <zoltanh7211> heh
20:56:42 <cwickert> the topic is "Collaboration across borders", this includes distribution borders too
20:56:54 <cwickert> egyDev, go ahead
20:57:00 <cwickert> eof from me
20:58:11 <egyDev> Simply I attended Software Freedom Day in one of the Egyptian universities , is EMEA interested in knowing about such events , I coudln't make any presentation
20:58:33 <liknus> we are very interested egyDev !
20:59:29 <cwickert> egyDev, sure we are. do you need any support, media or so?
20:59:37 <egyDev> liknus: Fine , I'll post a brief on the ML , as my purpose now awadys is forming community
20:59:56 <liknus> egyDev, please do so and we will be more than happy to help you :)
20:59:56 <egyDev> Fedora community
21:00:30 <liknus> I am more close to Egypt that Germany :) I would love to see Fedora rise in Egypt :)
21:00:30 <egyDev> cwickert: there will be F14 celebration with F14 , no prepration has been made still waiting for other members to react
21:00:58 <egyDev> It's quiet diffcult here to see people work
21:01:12 <liknus> egyDev, make sure you also have a wiki article to help you with the preparations
21:01:16 <egyDev> But you can a lways hear opinions , That's big problem here
21:01:36 <liknus> egyDev, we gonna help you reverse that :)
21:01:41 <egyDev> liknus: Sure .
21:01:43 <zoltanh7211> egyDev: what opinions?
21:01:49 <liknus> thats always the problem with kickstarting
21:02:14 <egyDev> zoltanh7211: About any thing forexample I started Arabic blog about fedora
21:02:27 <egyDev> I heard alot of opinions
21:02:35 <egyDev> but till now I'm the only writer
21:02:49 <cwickert> egyDev, taljurf can help you
21:02:54 <cwickert> he is from the emirates
21:03:02 <zoltanh7211> egyDev: we are in the same shoes - don't give up we help you
21:03:02 <egyDev> cwickert: I know him well
21:03:28 <egyDev> cwickert: & invited him , in need eveyone
21:03:53 <liknus> egyDev, please post on the ML also to let other people know
21:03:59 <egyDev> zoltanh7211: Sure :) , I use fedora I never give up :D
21:04:07 <cwickert> egyDev, ok, if you need media or anything, just let me know. I will be happy to help you
21:04:19 <egyDev> liknus: Ok
21:04:27 <egyDev> cwickert: Sure :)
21:04:31 <egyDev> EOF.
21:04:51 <liknus> ok thanks egyDev we will catch up on that on the ML :)
21:04:54 <liknus> ok moving on :
21:05:02 <liknus> #topic Actions
21:05:17 <liknus> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-09-29/fedora-meeting.2010-09-29-20.02.html
21:05:27 <liknus> ok lets see
21:05:36 <liknus> comzeradd,
21:06:34 <comzeradd> i have update a little bit the wiki page about release events https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F14_release_events
21:07:04 <liknus> thanks comzeradd  :) we also need to populate that with our own
21:07:09 <liknus> moving on
21:07:11 <liknus> cwickert,
21:07:28 <liknus> everything done
21:07:33 <cwickert> I think so
21:07:43 <liknus> exept the note on the trac/wiki
21:07:48 <liknus> or also done?
21:07:55 <cwickert> which one?
21:08:14 <liknus> cwickert notes on the wiki/trac to close shipment tickets when done by the recepient :)
21:08:23 <cwickert> ah, ok
21:08:30 * cwickert forgot it
21:08:34 <cwickert> will do it now
21:08:39 <liknus> no worries
21:08:44 <liknus> ok moving on to mine
21:09:04 <liknus> Release Parties were taken care by David Ramsey
21:09:15 <liknus> our beloved always-present Japanese :)
21:09:51 <liknus> and I still need to make the sleeves for our media...but still waiting on the Design Team for the originals
21:10:00 <liknus> ok :)
21:10:16 <liknus> and sspreitzer did his own (budget check)
21:10:20 <liknus> so we are done :)
21:10:26 <liknus> #topic OpenFloor
21:10:30 * cwickert has added the note on the wiki
21:10:41 <liknus> I will end the meeting in 3'
21:10:44 <nirik> !
21:10:44 <liknus> cwickert, thanks :)
21:10:47 <liknus> nirik,
21:11:05 <nirik> I just had a quick note... starting next week FESCo was wanting to meet before you guys...
21:11:38 <nirik> our meetings could last 2 hours and we start 1.5 hours before... so we could just quit early on the weeks you guys are meeting.
21:11:45 <nirik> Is this every other week?
21:11:55 <cwickert> every 2nd week
21:11:58 <liknus> every second Wed
21:12:18 <nirik> ok.
21:12:18 <liknus> nirik, if it is a problem we could move to meeting-1
21:12:34 <liknus> (we are ok I guess with that :) )
21:12:36 <nirik> I think it might be ok to just make sure we end before you guys on those weeks...
21:13:01 <nirik> just wanted to mention it.
21:13:03 <liknus> ok lets try it next time and see what happens...
21:13:13 <liknus> :) thanks nirik we will be in touch...
21:13:15 <nirik> and if we are going long, please let us know to end. ;)
21:13:16 <cwickert> we (FESCo) could move too, FESCo is less people
21:13:29 <nirik> cwickert: yeah
21:13:48 <cwickert> nirik, go idea, we should make the ambassadors meeting earlier ;)
21:14:19 <nirik> later would help fesco, but probibly not you. ;)
21:14:55 <cwickert> nirik, not sure if I will run for fesco again anyway
21:15:11 <liknus> ok cwickert and nirik :) we stick to our present condition and see what happens
21:15:12 <liknus> ok?
21:15:13 <nirik> cwickert: ;( Anyhow, thats all I had, just a note for this meeting.
21:15:33 * cmpahar agrees with liknus
21:15:39 <liknus> Meeting will end in 1'
21:15:50 <cmpahar> liknus, why?! :P
21:16:20 <liknus> 30''
21:16:26 <cmpahar> liknus, but why?
21:16:36 <liknus> 15''
21:16:41 <comzeradd> he is a bot :P
21:16:42 <liknus> 10''
21:16:47 * cwickert wants a countdown-bot
21:16:47 <liknus> 5''
21:16:51 * t2hot liknus is keeping time gentlemen
21:16:51 <liknus> 1''
21:16:52 * cmpahar liknus check your private messages BOT
21:16:56 <liknus> #endmeeting