18:06:22 <kital> #startmeeting
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18:06:53 <kital> #topic famsco meeting agenda
18:07:09 <kital> i proposed a agenda for today -
18:07:29 <kital> should we follow this agenda?
18:07:36 <ke4qqq> +1
18:07:55 <tatica> yup +1
18:07:55 <kital> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/famsco-list/2010-January/msg00028.html
18:08:05 <kital> #chair spevack
18:08:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: kital spevack
18:08:20 <kital> for helping me out spevack ;)
18:08:23 <spevack> sure
18:08:31 <kital> if i am to slow for something ;)
18:08:44 <spevack> I will help with the links, actions, etc.
18:08:47 <kital> oki
18:09:05 <kital> 1. Meeting Time
18:09:11 <kital> 2. Roadmap for future goals and assignments of functional roles
18:09:15 <kital> 3. Ticket Review current Tickets
18:09:20 <kital> 4. Election of the Chair
18:09:27 <kital> all ok with that?
18:09:32 <susmit> !
18:09:38 <kital> susmit
18:09:56 <spevack> #action spevack update http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee with new information for 2010.
18:10:02 <susmit> 1 should be postponed till all have given their preferences
18:10:07 <spevack> #action spevack update famsco mailing list membership
18:10:12 <susmit> eof
18:10:27 * spevack looks at the meeting page
18:10:27 <kital> lfoppiano is missing on 1.
18:10:44 <susmit> kital, yes
18:10:48 <kital> #topic Meeting Time
18:10:59 <kital> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings#For_2010
18:11:01 <spevack> so is ke4qqq
18:11:14 <kital> right
18:11:27 * ke4qqq runs to add a line
18:11:32 <spevack> #action lfoppiano -- state meeting preferences on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Meetings#For_2010
18:11:48 <spevack> #action kital finalize meeting time once all preferences are stated
18:12:14 <kital> ok perfect ;)
18:12:37 <kital> any further questions on that topic?
18:12:56 <tatica> !
18:12:57 * spevack enjoys his role as secretary
18:13:00 <kital> tatica:
18:13:06 <tatica> for what I see, not meeting on weekends, right?
18:13:07 <kital> spevack: ;)
18:13:14 <tatica> spevack, lol
18:13:35 <tatica> or the X means anytime is ok?
18:13:46 <kital> i think weekends should be reserved for family or hacking on real code
18:13:49 <susmit> x means unavailable
18:14:00 <kital> susmit: right
18:14:00 <susmit> tatica, ^^
18:14:02 <tatica> excelent, just double check on that
18:14:18 <tatica> my weekends are for community, so... I had to check again :)
18:14:24 <tatica> eof
18:14:41 <kital> #info clarification x means unavailable on the meeting schedule
18:14:58 <spevack> all of my time is reserved for Red Hat :P
18:15:11 <kital> spevack: ;)
18:15:12 <spevack> ok, let's move on
18:15:34 <kital> topic Roadmap for future goals and assignments of functional roles
18:15:47 <kital> #topic Roadmap for future goals and assignments of functional roles
18:16:14 <kital> i think we start with the points here
18:16:21 <kital> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Agenda
18:16:25 <spevack> #action kital make sure that the current famsco members all have access to famsco trac instance
18:16:41 <susmit> spevack, taken care of by me
18:16:47 <spevack> brilliant
18:17:04 <spevack> !
18:17:19 <kital> i have added tatica and lfoppiano to famsco group today - after no response from tchung - i am the admin for the famsco group
18:17:36 <kital> spevack:
18:18:07 <tatica> yeap, I still need to fix my access kital , we can chat and get some help after the meeting :)
18:18:10 <spevack> I think it's a good list, and a good place to get started.
18:18:17 <spevack> Here are a few other thoughts that I have.
18:18:22 <spevack> Of things we failed to do well last year.
18:18:30 <kital> should we follow each topic
18:18:43 <spevack> (1) Clear meeting agenda every meeting, that is shared with fedora-ambassadors-list.
18:18:49 <kital> ok tatica
18:19:08 <spevack> (2) Create a new famsco list on the new lists server, and migrate to that with open archives
18:19:27 <spevack> (3) At least one famsco member in every regional ambassador meeting
18:19:28 <spevack> EOF
18:19:40 <tatica> +1
18:19:57 <kital> all members ok with open the famsco ml to the public?
18:20:05 <spevack> kital: it has to be the new one
18:20:18 <ke4qqq> by open - do you mean - open for read or open to join
18:20:21 <kital> all members ok with open the new famsco ml to the public?
18:20:29 <spevack> My proposals is this:
18:20:56 <spevack> "Create a new list -- famsco@lists.fedoraproject.org (or whatever it is) -- and have open archives.
18:21:08 <spevack> what does fesco do?
18:22:02 <kital> check
18:22:16 <ke4qqq> does fesco have a mailing list?? (/me doesn't know one way or another)
18:22:46 <kital> seems they have no list
18:22:55 <nirik> fesco has a private list for those few things that need to be private or the like.
18:23:10 <kital> nirik: was is the list name
18:23:53 <spevack> anyway, my proposal is "new list, open archives, and move on with other business" :)
18:24:05 * nirik looks.
18:24:20 <ke4qqq> +1 for open archives
18:24:24 <tatica> +1
18:24:27 <nirik> Fedora Engineering Steering Committee <fedora-extras-steering@redhat.com>
18:24:27 <susmit> spevack, agreed
18:24:33 <kital> ok
18:24:48 * nirik notes that list gets very little use. It does get cc'ed on trac tickets for fesco tho.
18:24:54 <kital> #agreed create new famsco mailing list with open archives
18:25:30 <kital> #action kital takes care for creation of new famsco mailing list
18:25:45 <spevack> ok
18:27:01 <kital> should we write down your other two points somewhere spevack ?
18:27:36 <spevack> they are in an earlier mail, and i'm sure we'll talk about them more later in this meeting, as we discuss roles and responsibilities
18:28:38 <kital> ok, i just want to go through each of the points listed on the agenda 2010
18:28:49 <kital> Monthly report from FAmSCo members and sending it over to community
18:29:01 <spevack> !
18:29:09 <kital> i think this could be a summary of our meetings
18:29:28 <kital> and reports from membership budget liason reports ...
18:29:30 <kital> spevack:
18:29:33 <ke4qqq> !
18:29:48 <spevack> Exactly -- I think what this really means is "have more transparency" and if we are making sure that our meeting summaries from meeting bot are going to ambassadors-list and doing a monthly budget report, we'll be achieving this goal
18:30:26 <kital> ke4qqq: after spevack
18:30:50 <spevack> i'm done
18:30:55 <ke4qqq> is this obviated by publishing meeting summaries for each meeting? or is there some added benefit I am missing
18:30:59 <ke4qqq> EOF
18:31:34 <kital> i think this is related to have better marketing of famsco work
18:31:45 <kital> and this will push us to achieve something every month
18:32:15 <kital> i could also think to market the monthly report not only to the ambassador list also to planet
18:32:18 <kital> ...
18:32:35 <spevack> Let's keep it simple, guys.  Every famsco meeting, the summary goes to the list.  Every month, we have a FAMSCO $MONTH Summary mail that reminds people of the links, has a few bullet points of the main achievements, and a budget summary.  Done!
18:32:42 * tatica reading
18:32:57 <spevack> It could even be a wiki page that we create each month, and just point people to that.
18:33:15 <kital> all ok with spevack?
18:33:20 <susmit> Meeting summaries are kind of mechanical...I was thinking if every member could submit a paragraph on their observation about their region/where we should focus etc...
18:34:05 <susmit> s/where we should focus/what can be done for their region
18:34:08 <tatica> we could also do a digest more simple
18:34:20 <tatica> with a resume, and a better presentation
18:34:56 <kital> i understand what susmit means - this is something that shows the regional impact of famsco work
18:35:13 <kital> i think we should work on that further - but proceed with the next point
18:35:15 <spevack> i think it would be very easy to have a regional section in such a report.
18:35:45 <tatica> I could help with reports
18:35:50 <tatica> I think :\
18:35:50 <spevack> #action spevack come up with a template for what a monthly famsco report could look like, and use the same idea for a monthly CommArch report
18:36:00 <kital> #agreed work on monthly report
18:36:11 <kital> great tatica spevack
18:36:15 <ke4qqq> susmit: can you explain the scope a bit - are you looking for famsco actions that affect a region, or regional events alone, or regional matters that require famsco intervention?
18:36:19 <kital> Encourage people to come to FAmSCo meeting and talk. Work with marketing.
18:36:43 <spevack> kital: if we do things right, this will happen as if by magic.  I think we can set this aside for now.
18:37:04 <kital> ok next
18:37:07 <kital> Rules for FAmSCo elections
18:37:08 <spevack> that's my opinion :)
18:37:13 <kital> perfect solved by max
18:37:20 <spevack> #topic Rules for FAMSCO elections
18:37:21 <kital> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/famsco-list/2010-January/msg00023.html
18:37:42 <spevack> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_rules
18:37:45 <susmit> ke4qqq, will mail to the list..let's move on for now.
18:38:11 <kital> susmit ke4qqq we will come back to that for sure
18:38:16 <kital> just want to keep in time
18:38:38 <spevack> the link has the current draft -- which was inode0's work with my integration of suggestions, and trying to clean it up.  I think we are ready to get one last round of input from Ambassadors, and then give it a final vote.  Most of FAMSCO has read it and given their opinions
18:38:56 <kital> one issue was the famsco administration
18:39:16 <kital> this was raised today after we realized that only tchung had admin status
18:39:22 <spevack> in trac?
18:39:30 <spevack> or in FAS?
18:39:51 <spevack> the FAMSCO trac admins should be kital and susmit
18:39:55 <kital> i think we should transmitt this right to the person in famsco who is responsible for fama
18:40:03 <kital> spevack: fas
18:40:04 <spevack> The FAMSCO FAS admins should be probably me and kital
18:40:09 <spevack> IMHO
18:40:28 <tatica> +1
18:40:29 <susmit> spevack, +1
18:40:32 * ke4qqq suggests it rotate with chair and vice-chair so we can codify it
18:40:39 <spevack> ke4qqq: fair enough
18:40:48 <susmit> ke4qqq, agreed
18:40:49 <spevack> same with list admin.
18:40:59 <ke4qqq> otherwise this discussion has to occur every year potentially
18:41:22 <kital> #agreed famsco fas group admin and famsco list admin goes to chair and vice-chair
18:41:29 <kital> ke4qqq: +1
18:41:30 <spevack> yay
18:41:39 <susmit> and why not trac?
18:41:50 <susmit> lets keep it uniform
18:42:03 <spevack> trac too, just to be clear.  But I think Susmit needs admin also in Trac, regardless of his other roles in famsco, because he does all the trac stuff :)
18:42:21 <Southern_Gentlem> ?
18:42:28 <kital> Southern_Gentlem:
18:42:42 <Southern_Gentlem> can there be multiple admins on the trak
18:42:47 <spevack> yep
18:42:49 <kital> yes
18:42:55 * ke4qqq amends that we not limit it, but say that at least chair and vicechair
18:42:55 <kital> undo
18:43:00 <kital> #undo
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18:43:05 <Southern_Gentlem> susmit +chair,cochair then
18:43:12 <spevack> Southern_Gentlem: exactly
18:43:21 <susmit> let me propose..chair and vice-chair will have admin access to all the FAmSCo resources. They will invite people to be admin, if required.
18:43:30 <kital> #agreed famsco fas group admin and famsco list admin goes to chair and vice-chair resp. fama
18:43:30 <ke4qqq> +1 susmit
18:43:36 <spevack> susmit: 100% right.
18:43:40 <tatica> susmit, +1
18:43:59 <kital> #undo
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18:44:00 <tatica> probably one day you both will need help; but until then... you both rox on that task
18:44:09 <kital> #agreed chair and vice-chair will have admin access to all the FAmSCo resources. They will invite people to be admin, if required.
18:44:15 <spevack> poor kital has to keep undoing everything :)
18:44:21 <kital> hihi ;)
18:44:24 <susmit> :)
18:44:44 <susmit> professional hazards ;)
18:44:58 <kital> ok okdsasadlfjsajf
18:45:04 <stickster> kital: I had no idea there was a #undo, thanks
18:45:42 <kital> stickster: that is the way to remove unwanted tasks ;)
18:46:00 <tatica> !
18:46:04 <kital> tatica:
18:46:17 <tatica> this is related with last topic, but sorry... just came up now to my mind
18:47:02 <kital> tatica: move on
18:47:10 <tatica> just checking task and roles we have: budget, meetings, encourage people,... should we have a special plan this year to make inactive ambassadors be online again? a special meeting to deal this?
18:47:15 <tatica> eof
18:48:01 <kital> good point we will have a larger discussion improving membership quality and process - we have different regional needs
18:48:12 <kital> we will come back to that for sure
18:48:28 <tatica> excellent :D
18:48:36 <kital> for now we move on with the next proposal
18:48:44 <kital> Quarterly Town-Hall IRC for FAmSCo members
18:49:01 <kital> i bet this is from sankarshan ;)
18:49:28 <kital> any comments on that
18:49:38 * ke4qqq really likes this idea - I immensely enjoyed some of hte conversations during the election townhalls
18:49:57 <kital> ke4qqq: +1
18:50:10 * ke4qqq suggests we focus on a specific region each quarter, and adjust it so it's most advantageous for them schedulewise
18:50:23 <tatica> !
18:50:25 <kital> tatica:
18:51:28 <tatica> we could set some meetings with regions too, not only famsco. In those meetings we could also be aware of what's happening around the world. Also we could set this meetings only to 30 minutes where ambassadors present a resume of goals and needs
18:51:31 <tatica> eof
18:52:15 <kital> i think this is also related to Encourage people to come to FAmSCo meeting and talk. Work with marketing.
18:52:23 <tatica> oka
18:52:27 <kital> so this is an overall goal
18:53:21 <kital> others? to quarterly town-hall meeting
18:53:50 <kital> +1 from my side
18:54:00 <susmit> I like it
18:54:01 <tatica> +1
18:54:12 <ke4qqq> who owns the task and will schedule?
18:54:26 <spevack> The soon-to-be-named Chair
18:54:31 <ke4qqq> cool
18:55:03 <kital> #agreed to have Quarterly Town-Hall IRC for FAmSCo members - owner famsco chair
18:55:26 <kital> next
18:55:27 <kital> Labeled Spin Media
18:55:39 <spevack> We talked about this in the EMEA meeting yesterday, and I had an action item from it.
18:55:43 <kital> this is a process we have to improve
18:55:55 <spevack> and i agree that it is a process we need to improve :)
18:56:23 <kital> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/37
18:56:34 <kital> so spevack is already the owner for that
18:56:43 * tatica still can't see tickets
18:57:14 <ke4qqq> the description seems a bit cryptic  - what's it about?
18:57:20 <ke4qqq> generic slipcases?
18:57:29 <spevack> tatica: did you log in to trac?
18:57:47 <tatica> yes
18:58:00 <tatica> we can check that later, I don't want to take time of the meeting for that
18:58:08 * kital looks at susmit for help with the trac instance
18:58:12 <tatica> I still have to check all services so go :D
18:58:36 * tatica looks susmit o_O
18:59:02 <susmit> hmm..ok..let me find out whats going wrong
18:59:10 <kital> ke4qqq: it is about producing media for different spins like xfce/lxde fel ...
18:59:42 <ke4qqq> famna has also been discussing that, but didn't think it was a famsco matter - is there something I am missing
18:59:44 <kital> it is a concrete community request
19:00:05 <kital> now it seems to be
19:00:30 <ke4qqq> what's EMEA looking for from FAmSCo?
19:00:54 <kital> in this case xfce/lxde media
19:01:07 <ke4qqq> so just additional money?
19:01:19 <kital> no ke4qqq
19:01:26 <spevack> 2 things:
19:01:26 * ke4qqq is confused
19:01:41 <kital> a process for requesting the right media
19:01:42 <spevack> (1) A general case by which we are able to consistently and in an orderly fashion create artwork for all spins.
19:02:02 <spevack> (2) The ability to insert money into somewhere and spit out media for any of those spins in any region of the world, starting with EMEA.
19:02:10 <tatica> who can I talk to request media and marketing stuff for Venezuela&Colombia ?
19:02:17 <tatica> and when
19:02:52 <kital> tatica: this is what we have help to put in place
19:03:05 <kital> and this is different for every region
19:03:06 <spevack> RodrigoPadula is supposed to make all of that stuff happen.  If he is unable to, then you and I can work on it ourselves.  The main problem is paying for it, as always.  Red Hat LATAM is supposed to be able to take care of money issues all over that region.
19:03:13 <kital> because there are multiple vendors
19:03:19 <susmit> tatica, you now can
19:03:28 <tatica> ok
19:03:31 <susmit> sorry to interrupt
19:03:49 <kital> susmit: go on
19:03:52 <tatica> spevack, in Venezuela and Colombia we talk about several ways we can work to get a little more help
19:04:13 <tatica> and I got support from the company where I work, that has offices in latam and USA
19:05:28 <kital> ok any more on that
19:06:00 <kital> ?
19:06:04 <kital> good
19:06:10 <kital> Survey amongst mentors on the Ambassador Mentorship
19:06:39 <spevack> tatica: i am ready to help you with anything I can.
19:06:48 * tatica jumps!
19:07:04 <kital> reminding our work on mentoring process here
19:07:05 <kital> https://fedorahosted.org/fama/wiki/mentoring
19:07:53 <kital> there are several things that shows us that the process of selecting mentors is not mature enough
19:08:22 <kital> i see mentoring different from sponsoring
19:08:39 <tatica> mentors... I have something to say there
19:08:42 <tatica> !
19:08:50 <kital> and i would love to see that we clarify the way how one can become a mentor
19:09:07 <kital> but we have to be carefull that mentoring not turns into membership work
19:09:49 <kital> i think if we are too busy with ourself and our internals this keeps us from doing our job
19:09:59 * ke4qqq suggests that current mentors be able to approve mentors within their region - though I do agree with your statements
19:10:12 <kital> ke4qqq: this is a great idea
19:10:19 * spevack is following along, but doesn't have anything new or different to say about mentoring and defers to the opinions of others
19:10:55 <kital> i have also worked out how more automation can help us with the mentoring mentoring process
19:11:02 <kital> http://jsimon.fedorapeople.org/membership_mentor_model.png
19:11:08 <ke4qqq> if that's the decision, I'll be happy to codify such on the wiki
19:11:10 <tatica> mentor must have a kind of "paternal" role
19:12:39 <tatica> I talk almost everyday with all latam ambassadors and try to follow what they do, give them new ideas and help them when they need
19:12:55 <kital> ok the proposal is
19:13:31 <kital> new mentors get proposed through existing mentors and confirmed by famsco vote -
19:13:44 <kital> ok ?
19:13:49 <susmit> +1
19:13:51 <spevack> +1
19:14:11 <ke4qqq> +1
19:14:23 <tatica> +1
19:14:34 <kital> #agreed new mentors get proposed through existing mentors and confirmed by famsco vote
19:14:57 <ke4qqq> is the tacit understanding that existing mentors are considered grandfathered and thus approved?
19:15:10 <kital> #action ke4qqq is happy to codify new mentors process on the wiki
19:15:36 <kital> ke4qqq: yes
19:15:59 <tatica> lol
19:16:24 <kital> back to membership automation - just short
19:16:54 <kital> you notice the point with the light
19:17:03 <kital> this are the tasks to automate
19:17:17 <kital> if we can really automate all that
19:17:36 <kital> then we are able to discuss to give the mentors also the sponsoring role
19:17:45 <kital> but this is something for another meeting
19:18:15 <susmit> kital, we are already 1.5 hours. So may need to keep some for next meet/list
19:18:27 <kital> ok we move on with responsibilities if nobody else has something to add on this topic
19:18:38 <kital> susmit: right
19:18:47 <kital> lets skip the ticket review
19:18:51 <kital> in the agenda
19:19:19 <kital> responsibilities
19:19:34 <kital> spevack and tatica work on the monthly report right
19:19:34 <kital> ?
19:19:41 <spevack> yep, it's in the action list
19:19:49 <tatica> yes
19:19:55 <kital> kital and susmit keep the fama guys
19:19:56 <kital> ok ?
19:20:11 <susmit> ok
19:20:49 <kital> the other ok with that?
19:20:59 <kital> s/other/others
19:21:58 <ke4qqq> worksforme
19:22:09 <kital> ping spevack ke4qqq tatica get i a +1 from you for fama
19:22:24 <spevack> +1
19:22:30 <tatica> +1
19:22:32 <ke4qqq> +!
19:22:36 <ke4qqq> 1
19:22:37 <ke4qqq> even
19:22:53 <kital> #agreed susmit and kital keep the fama role
19:23:26 <ke4qqq> is fabian still working within fama?
19:23:31 <kital> i think we speak about liasons to other groups in next meeting
19:23:55 <kital> i will check back with fab
19:24:11 <kital> and if he can afford time we will keep him as well
19:24:14 <kital> from my pov
19:24:21 <ke4qqq> +1
19:24:25 * spevack agrees
19:24:26 <susmit> kital everything else should be discussed in the next meeting except the chair.
19:24:31 <spevack> yep
19:24:31 <kital> again i think we speak about liasons to other groups in next meeting
19:24:53 <kital> ok
19:24:56 * ke4qqq suggests we move to electing chair and table everything else - and then adjourn
19:25:11 <kital> #topic chair election
19:25:25 <spevack> I nominate kital as Chair
19:25:31 <susmit> +1
19:25:32 * ke4qqq seconds
19:25:33 <kital> ;)
19:25:59 <susmit> tatica, ?
19:26:05 <tatica> kital, *\o/*
19:26:18 <tatica> but spevack should be next to him
19:26:27 <spevack> That's 4 +1s, and no -1's.  I think kital is our chair!
19:26:38 <tatica> :D
19:26:43 <spevack> kital: do you accept?
19:26:58 <kital> yes - thanks so much - it means a lot for me
19:27:08 <tatica> lol
19:27:52 <kital> ok this has to be confirmed by the board
19:27:54 <kital> right ?
19:28:05 <spevack> #action spevack ask the board to confirm kital as famsco chair
19:28:05 <susmit> though the vice-chair is to be decided by the chair, let me propose spevack for the post
19:28:05 * inode0 congratulates kital and suggests he practice with wielding the gavel
19:28:49 <kital> inode0: ;) first i have to wield my english
19:28:54 * tatica waves kital
19:29:20 <kital> ok i want to speak open about vice chair
19:29:58 <kital> i am splitted because i think you all would be great vice chairs
19:30:20 <kital> ke4qqq and susmit are both critical thinkers in a good way
19:31:05 <kital> spevack is also my mentor so he surely would be the best choice
19:31:12 <kital> and i tend to spevack as well
19:31:21 <kital> this is nothing personal
19:31:27 <kital> any proposals
19:31:32 <kital> ?
19:32:01 <kital> nothing ?
19:32:03 <spevack> well as always, i am here to help in any way I can, and I will be happy to spend another year working with Ambassadors :)
19:32:27 <ke4qqq> kital: this is your choice, all of us are here to help, you get the weight of making the choice
19:32:31 <ke4qqq> :)
19:33:13 <spevack> Ok... are we all finished for today?  Everything else can wait until next week, I think.
19:33:28 <tatica> yup, same time and day?
19:33:32 <kital> susmit proposed spevack
19:33:57 <kital> if there is no other proposals besides my own
19:34:05 * bochecha suggests kital uses the highly scientific method that all good managers around the world use when they have hard decisions to make: « eeny, meeny, miney, moe »
19:34:31 <kital> i want to ask you spevack if you accept the vice chair?
19:34:46 <kital> bochecha: ;)
19:35:04 * susmit also suggest he take a dice and role that..coin won't d oin this case
19:35:25 <ke4qqq> heh
19:35:42 <kital> spevack do you accept it ? (in the case the board confirms)
19:35:45 <spevack> I do :)
19:35:54 <kital> ok perfect
19:35:59 <kital> thanks all!
19:36:06 <tatica> :D
19:36:18 <susmit> congrats both kital and spevack ..you are our new leaders..
19:36:19 <kital> any other thing to add?
19:36:30 <susmit> .me goes to sleep
19:36:34 <kital> oki
19:36:37 <kital> #endmeeting