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00:01:38 <Sparks> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
00:01:38 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Sep 24 00:01:38 2009 UTC.  The chair is Sparks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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00:01:47 <Sparks> #topic Roll Call
00:01:48 * Sparks 
00:02:07 * jjmcd .
00:02:56 * danielsmw 
00:03:31 * ianweller kinda sorta not really
00:05:47 * Sparks gives everyone just a few more minutes
00:08:34 <Sparks> Okay, let's get started.
00:08:48 <Sparks> #topic Last week's action items
00:09:00 <Sparks> quaid to follow up with Richard about the use of the CC logo on the wiki.
00:09:01 <jjmcd> none of the action item guys are here
00:09:09 <Sparks> Yeah, I just realized that.
00:09:24 <Sparks> We'll just pass these by...
00:09:42 <Sparks> #topic Release notes format changes
00:09:50 <Sparks> jjmcd: Is there any further discussion on this?
00:09:56 <jjmcd> what were we changing?
00:10:26 <jjmcd> A little late, they are being built each night
00:10:34 <Sparks> I don't know.
00:10:42 <Sparks> We'll just call this topic done.
00:10:54 <Sparks> #topic Status on CMS (Zikula)
00:10:55 <jjmcd> http://fedora.is-sixsigma.com/F12beta
00:11:02 <Sparks> Is there any update on Zikula?
00:11:25 <danielsmw> Um, I guess I have a small one
00:11:31 <Sparks> danielsmw: go ahead
00:11:45 <danielsmw> I hope I'm not being a blocker, but I'm not done with my package yet.
00:11:48 <danielsmw> I am very close though
00:11:51 <danielsmw> and most of the work is done
00:11:59 <Sparks> danielsmw: Which package?
00:12:01 <danielsmw> what I need is a legit packager to help me out with my packaging mistakes
00:12:04 <danielsmw> Xinha, for Scribite!
00:12:17 <Sparks> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status
00:12:26 <Sparks> ^^^ I don't see it on the list.  Could you add it, please?
00:12:53 <Sparks> danielsmw: I'm a packager but certainly not legit.  ianweller is one, though.
00:13:01 <danielsmw> Sparks: alright
00:13:05 <Sparks> If he can't help you then maybe he can point you to someone who can
00:13:07 <danielsmw> wait, should this be on this list?
00:13:14 <Sparks> Yes.
00:13:19 <danielsmw> okay
00:13:23 <danielsmw> even though it's a general package
00:13:26 <danielsmw> and not a zikula module?
00:13:54 <Sparks> Well...  it's needed for Zikula, right?
00:13:56 <danielsmw> It's just that it's _for_ zikula, which is why I brought it up now.
00:13:58 <danielsmw> Yeah, it is
00:14:02 <danielsmw> So I guess it goes there then.
00:14:05 <danielsmw> I'll update the list. :)
00:14:18 <Sparks> TU
00:14:40 <Sparks> danielsmw: Do you know how much more time it will take to get it straight?
00:14:57 <bochecha> if I may... I had started to package Xinha for a project of mine (but they I abandoned as I didn't use it in the end)
00:15:18 <danielsmw> Sparks: i really do have most of it done now, I believe. It's just silly rpmbuild errors
00:15:27 <bochecha> all I remember is that it wasn't a hard package, I had it built
00:15:40 <danielsmw> bochecha: it doesn't look that hard, I'm just no good at packaging. :)
00:15:41 <Sparks> danielsmw: What are the errors?
00:15:54 <bochecha> danielsmw, if I can help, drop me an email, I had already done it :P
00:16:09 <danielsmw> Sparks: things like... using sources that aren't archives, and such.
00:16:12 <danielsmw> bochecha: will do, thanks!
00:16:25 <danielsmw> Sparks: but the main outline of what I"m doing is there.
00:16:31 <danielsmw> danielsmw.fedorapeople.org/xinha.spec
00:17:20 <Sparks> danielsmw: Okay.  If I can get my head above water (maybe this weekend) I'll be happy to look at it.  ianweller fixed so many errors for me that I might know how to fix yours
00:17:24 <Sparks> might
00:17:41 <danielsmw> Sparks: might. thanks, it looks like I'll be getting plenty of help.
00:17:47 <jjmcd> danielsmw, if you have time tomorrow I might help, too tired tonite
00:18:08 <Sparks> cool
00:18:12 <danielsmw> great
00:18:14 <danielsmw> thanks everyone.
00:18:17 <danielsmw> i appreciate it.
00:18:20 <Sparks> Anything else for zikula?
00:19:21 <danielsmw> uh
00:19:23 <danielsmw> I have a question
00:19:27 <Sparks> danielsmw: Go ahead
00:19:35 * quaid arrives back
00:19:38 <danielsmw> On that page you told me to edit, FCKeditor is listed as something that needs to be packaged
00:19:46 * quaid can address his item when it comes back around
00:19:47 <danielsmw> which is basically the same thing as Xinha.
00:19:53 <danielsmw> is there a reason they should both be done?
00:20:23 <Sparks> No
00:20:25 <danielsmw> or is that just left over?
00:20:26 <Sparks> Not really
00:20:30 <danielsmw> okay, i'll remove it then.
00:21:11 <Sparks> Okay, anything else for Zikula?
00:22:03 <Sparks> #topic Status on CC license rollout.
00:22:14 <Sparks> quaid: Were you able to follow up with Legal?
00:22:16 <quaid> danielsmw: did you get hooked up with the Beacon maintainer?
00:22:19 <quaid> Sparks: yes!
00:22:25 <danielsmw> quaid: no, I forgot!
00:22:28 <quaid> ironically, Richard just pointed back to spot
00:22:41 <quaid> and spot knows of the problem; and there doesn't seem to be a solution
00:22:51 <quaid> i.e., the CC logo(s) are not coverable by the CC-BY-SA
00:23:04 <quaid> but maybe spot can explain better ...
00:23:08 * quaid forgot to ask if he'd be around
00:23:16 <Sparks> neither is our logo...
00:23:24 <Sparks> BUT, I'm good either way
00:23:44 <quaid> heh, nor are other logos we might carry
00:23:50 <Sparks> yeah
00:24:22 <Sparks> spot: You around?
00:25:14 <Sparks> I guess not.
00:25:24 <Sparks> So I don't see the problem with using it.
00:25:47 <Sparks> And I do see a problem with using it.
00:26:00 <Sparks> So are we going to go with "don't use it"?
00:26:07 <quaid> well, we have a clear legal guidance for don't use
00:26:13 <quaid> so, for now, we don't use it.
00:26:24 <quaid> I'll ask spot to explain on list, k?
00:26:40 <Sparks> k
00:27:08 <Sparks> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/License_changeover_schedule
00:27:29 <Sparks> So I guess we need to make internal notifications and then get ianweller on changing the wiki over
00:28:08 <Sparks> rudi's not here tonight but he was still trying to get access to those packages so he could change the Publican brand files over
00:28:30 * danielsmw is sneaking out early. peace.
00:28:37 <Sparks> danielsmw: Have a good one
00:28:46 <Sparks> Anything else on the license changeover?
00:29:02 * quaid is happy :)
00:29:30 <Sparks> #topic #
00:29:30 <Sparks> *
00:29:32 <Sparks> #topic Shared open-source style guide
00:29:47 <Sparks> I think this is a rudi thing, too.  Anyone have anything to report on this?
00:30:09 <quaid> well, yes
00:30:14 <quaid> this was just part of something, righ?
00:30:14 <Sparks> quaid: Go ahead
00:30:20 <quaid> do we have someone who is focusing on what is going on
00:30:25 <quaid> with the upstream initiative?
00:30:26 <Sparks> Well....
00:30:29 <quaid> writingopensource.org, right?
00:30:34 <Sparks> maybe
00:30:39 <Sparks> I don't remember now
00:30:49 <Sparks> I think rudi was working on getting RH to release their docs
00:31:03 <quaid> right
00:31:04 <Sparks> I think ke4qqq was going to work on it as well
00:31:17 <quaid> that is something we can contribute to the upstream effort, or so I thought we discussed :)
00:31:27 <quaid> I forget who was on-list with this item ...
00:31:36 <quaid> he's a gnome.org person, iirc.
00:31:38 <jjmcd> yeah, I think someone else had point but I don't remember who
00:31:48 * quaid looks
00:34:38 <Sparks> It's been so long ago I don't even remember
00:34:49 <quaid> shaun mcchance?
00:34:57 * quaid having slow browser ...
00:35:50 * quaid joins http://identi.ca/group/wosdocs
00:36:19 <Sparks> So we need to figure out who from FP is going to work on this.
00:36:56 <Sparks> I think ke4qqq was interested but I don't know how much time he has now
00:38:53 <Sparks> Let's take this to the list and see if we can stir up any interest
00:38:57 <Sparks> anything else on this?
00:39:28 <Sparks> #topic Guide needs?
00:39:38 <Sparks> Are their any guides (or RN) that need help?
00:40:13 <jjmcd> I see some weird stuff
00:40:19 <jjmcd> need to get w/rudi
00:40:56 <Sparks> okay... anything else?
00:41:36 <Sparks> #topic New Guides
00:41:40 <Sparks> Any new guides?
00:42:33 <Sparks> #topic All other business
00:42:46 <Sparks> Anyone have anything else?
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00:44:57 <Sparks> #endmeeting