17:00:15 <jednorozec> #startmeeting RELENG (2023-11-14) 17:00:15 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Nov 14 17:00:15 2023 UTC. 17:00:15 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 17:00:15 <zodbot> The chair is jednorozec. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 17:00:15 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:15 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'releng_(2023-11-14)' 17:00:19 <jednorozec> #meetingname releng 17:00:19 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'releng' 17:00:21 <jednorozec> #chair nirik sharkcz pbrobinson phsmoura dustymabe jednorozec 17:00:21 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jednorozec nirik pbrobinson phsmoura sharkcz 17:00:23 <jednorozec> #topic init process 17:00:28 <nirik> morning 17:00:32 <pcreech> .hello pcreech17 17:00:34 <zodbot> pcreech: pcreech17 'Patrick Creech' <pcreech@redhat.com> 17:00:40 <patrikp> .hi 17:00:41 <zodbot> patrikp: patrikp 'Patrik Polakovič' <ppolakov@redhat.com> 17:02:45 <jednorozec> hello everyone 17:05:00 <jednorozec> I dont have any specific topic to discuss today, just few updates on things 17:06:01 <jednorozec> .releng 11723 17:06:02 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #11723: Remove PDC from package retirement process - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11723 17:06:22 <jednorozec> I tried to run the script on prod pkgs today 17:06:29 <jednorozec> around 7:00 UTC 17:06:56 <nirik> cool. thats much faster than I thought it would be 17:07:11 <nirik> how often would it run? daily? 17:07:20 <jednorozec> so 17:07:28 <jednorozec> I am not sure if that will be needed 17:08:02 <jednorozec> We are catching all manipulation with dead.package in toddlers 17:08:23 <jednorozec> so newly retired and unretired packages can be just updated on that list 17:09:24 <nirik> yeah, in the past with services that updated with messages, we also had a regular job that could generate the list in case messages were lost... 17:09:27 <jednorozec> btw I think its not that slow/greedy because git operations tend to be pretty optimized 17:09:51 <nirik> ie, the koji sync thing runs on messages, but once a day the scriupt runs to make sure it didn't miss any 17:10:19 <jednorozec> right 17:10:35 <nirik> so I think it would be good to generate entire on some cadience... but it could be weekly even probibly 17:11:33 <jednorozec> at least lenka can continue now she just needed some endpoint to point to. 17:12:24 * nirik nods 17:13:00 <jednorozec> we will add it to ansible tmrw but deploy it only to staging to see if somethings unexpected comes up 17:13:37 <nirik> great! 17:15:00 <jednorozec> .releng 11773 17:15:01 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #11773: No new stable Silverblue/Kinoite/Sericea/Onyx compose since 39.20231103.n.0 - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11773 17:15:27 <jednorozec> so 17:15:46 <nirik> yeah, there is history here. 17:16:11 <nirik> oh, this is the ref thing 17:16:18 <jednorozec> yes the ref thing 17:16:24 <jednorozec> its back in the SOP 17:16:35 <nirik> +1... can close 17:17:00 <nirik> but... 17:17:07 <jednorozec> also there is last comment not relevant for the issue itself but was also a miss in the scripts 17:17:54 <nirik> ok, thats where I am getting mixed up 17:18:23 <nirik> the updating containers post ga thing 17:18:46 <jednorozec> yes, it was missing in the container-nightly 17:18:53 <nirik> for ostree ones we should do this... base/minimal we haven't in the past 17:20:16 <nirik> and that looks like whats proposed... so +1 ;) 17:20:16 <jednorozec> there are PRs in pungi-fedora so closing 17:20:50 <nirik> we have talked about updating the base/minimal ones too... orig the containers sig was supposed to test and release some from time to time... 17:21:39 <jednorozec> its probably good idea to have some sanity check 17:22:32 <nirik> yeah. we can discuss with QE... 17:24:27 <jednorozec> .releng 11780 17:24:28 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #11780: I cannot create an epel9 branch for perl-HTML-Scrubber - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11780 17:24:31 <jednorozec> just closing it 17:24:54 <nirik> +1 17:25:23 <jednorozec> this is ne 17:25:28 <jednorozec> .releng 11781 17:25:29 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #11781: Special buildroot-only tagging for glibc32 - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11781 17:27:13 <jednorozec> should I just tag them there? 17:27:16 <nirik> yep 17:27:22 <nirik> it's a weird corner case thing. 17:27:35 <jednorozec> let me do that right now 17:31:03 <jednorozec> .releng 11782 17:31:04 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #11782: Update bootloader components assignee to "Bootloader Engineering Team"for Improved collaboration - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11782 17:31:14 <jednorozec> releng@fp.o user should be able to do this? 17:31:42 <nirik> no. 17:32:23 <nirik> because if we just change it, our sync will change it back. it needs to be changed right... ie, a group made with that address, then the packages main admin changed to group 17:33:12 <nirik> at least thats my first thought on it. ;) 17:33:22 <jednorozec> ha 17:33:55 <jednorozec> and it will be synced by the bz sync toddler 17:34:06 <nirik> yeah 17:36:09 <nirik> I can try and do this later in the week... 17:37:03 <jednorozec> or I can with samyak he should be back later this week, and I think he has the ACLs to change package assignee's 17:37:19 <jednorozec> I can create the group 17:37:42 <jednorozec> .releng 11768 17:37:43 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #11768: Update IoT signing keys - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11768 17:37:55 <jednorozec> do we have any process for this or just wait for the ticket? 17:38:10 <jednorozec> there was couple of request the day before the release got live... 17:38:21 <jednorozec> but can be closed 17:39:37 <nirik> there's a howto on it. you have to do a number of steps... zlopez also has done them 17:39:46 <nirik> (this is about the group) 17:40:06 <jednorozec> I mean more like can we make them to request it sooner that day before things go live? 17:40:08 <nirik> the iot signing is all done, can be closed 17:40:33 <jednorozec> I can do that and did for previous releases its just unfortunate to do this the day before... 17:40:35 <nirik> I'm not sure... we can ask them? 17:41:29 <jednorozec> right close and ask 17:41:41 <jednorozec> .releng 11761 17:41:42 <zodbot> jednorozec: Issue #11761: missing artifacts from f39-rc-1.5 (final release) - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11761 17:42:09 <jednorozec> so about the torrents 17:42:38 <jednorozec> my idea is to drop the missing torrent folders/files in place and regenerate the torrent.ini 17:42:48 <jednorozec> restart tracker and it should pick them up? 17:43:40 <jednorozec> basically just do the steps from 11. https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra/release_guide/torrentrelease/ 17:44:15 <nirik> I guess. I don't like the fact that the respin ones would then just look like the same as the release ones, but I guess that could just be me. ;) 17:44:19 * jednorozec jsut want to make sure the tracker will not break 17:44:41 <jednorozec> they have -respin in name 17:44:44 <nirik> I need to move that vm to rhel9 I guess. People keep using torrents... 17:44:58 <jednorozec> torrents never die 17:46:06 <nirik> they are a lot less popular than they used to be.... 17:46:21 <nirik> I guess I could gather some stats and ask about killing them again... 17:46:25 <jednorozec> internet connections got much better 17:46:56 <jednorozec> that is all i had 17:47:31 <nirik> yep. most people just direct download from a mirror anymore. 17:48:02 <nirik> so, I am still planning/hoping to get time to write up a 'reinstall builders' thing... will submit a PR and you can do stg based on it. 17:48:14 <nirik> I have a mass update/reboot outage scheduled for tomorrow. 17:48:19 <nirik> going to do staging today. 17:49:10 <nirik> .releng 11751 17:49:11 <zodbot> nirik: Issue #11751: libssh2-devel seems to be missing from the EPEL7 x86_64 buildroot - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11751 17:49:18 <nirik> I think I can close this one 17:49:37 <jednorozec> I think I am able to do the reinstall, but it would be much less stress full to have some reference document 17:50:09 <nirik> yeah. I hope to work on it this afternoon if people will stop pinging me. ;) 17:50:26 <nirik> .releng 11680 17:50:26 <zodbot> nirik: Issue #11680: EPEL9 not listed in MDAPI branches - releng - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11680 17:50:29 <nirik> where was this one? 17:50:47 <jednorozec> github 17:50:49 <jednorozec> let me find it 17:51:25 <jednorozec> https://github.com/fedora-infra/mdapi/pull/225 17:51:28 <jednorozec> got merged 17:51:37 <jednorozec> mdapi needs new release and it should be working 17:52:14 <nirik> I think it's done actually. 17:52:29 <jednorozec> deploy from master :) 17:52:42 <nirik> hum, or perhaps not? 17:52:54 <jednorozec> nope 17:52:57 <jednorozec> its not there 17:53:09 <pcreech> (insert obligatory 'one does not simply deploy from master' joke) 17:53:32 <nirik> yeah, it's not. so, still needs deployment 17:54:03 <jednorozec> yeah guys have holidays over there 17:54:29 <jednorozec> they should be back tmrw I will ping around 17:56:38 <nirik> no worries. 17:56:43 * nirik has nothing more off hand. 17:57:21 <jednorozec> Any other topics? 17:57:28 <jednorozec> #topic Open floor 17:58:00 * jednorozec needs to take a photo of his opened floor in one of the rooms for this occasion 17:58:40 <Southern_Gentlem> jednorozec, did you ever get that blog post on how to create updated server isos 17:58:51 <jednorozec> Southern_Gentlem, Yes! 17:59:00 <Southern_Gentlem> link please 17:59:26 <jednorozec> but my build jobs failed, and now alma 6.3 autoupdated on me and zfs didnt load 17:59:54 <jednorozec> give me few minutes 17:59:58 <Southern_Gentlem> ok 18:00:13 <jednorozec> #endmeeting