16:00:31 <eddiejennings> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2021-11-11)
16:00:31 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Nov 18 16:00:31 2021 UTC.
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16:00:46 <austinpowered> .hi
16:00:46 <zodbot> austinpowered: [hellomynameis austinpowered]
16:00:50 <eddiejennings> .hi
16:00:52 <petebuffon> .hello petebuffon
16:00:52 <zodbot> eddiejennings: [hellomynameis eddiejennings]
16:00:55 <zodbot> petebuffon: [hellomynameis petebuffon]
16:00:58 <austinpowered> Time appropriate greetings...
16:01:02 <nirik> mornign
16:01:05 <petebuffon> morning :)
16:01:11 <nirik> morning even
16:01:12 <eddiejennings> Almost missed my own chair meeting.  Forgot I'm -5 UTC now :)
16:01:30 <petebuffon> Yeah i missed the meeting last week because of the time change :/
16:01:36 <eddiejennings> #meetingname infrastructure
16:01:36 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
16:01:54 <eddiejennings> #chair nirik siddharthvipul mobrien zlopez pingou bodanel dtometzki jnsamyak computerkid
16:01:54 <zodbot> Current chairs: bodanel computerkid dtometzki eddiejennings jnsamyak mobrien nirik pingou siddharthvipul zlopez
16:02:08 <eddiejennings> #info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra
16:02:23 <eddiejennings> #info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/
16:02:38 <eddiejennings> #topic greetings!
16:03:08 <eddiejennings> Hope everyone's doing well!
16:03:13 <eddiejennings> #topic New folks introductions
16:03:27 <eddiejennings> #info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves
16:03:40 <eddiejennings> #info Getting Started Guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
16:03:51 <eddiejennings> Anyone here that's new to Fedora Infrastructure?
16:05:17 <eddiejennings> Hearing none. We move on
16:05:38 <eddiejennings> #topic Next chair
16:05:47 <eddiejennings> #info magic eight ball says:
16:05:55 <eddiejennings> #info chair 2021-11-18 - eddiejennings
16:06:02 <eddiejennings> #info chair 2021-11-25 - zlopez
16:06:13 <eddiejennings> Any volunteers for 2021-12-02?
16:06:45 <petebuffon> sure!
16:06:59 <eddiejennings> 12/2 sold to petebuffon!
16:07:11 <eddiejennings> How about 2021-12-09?
16:07:15 <Southern_Gentlem> your meeting on 2021-11-25?
16:07:40 <eddiejennings> I, myself, won't be at 11/25 due to Thanksgiving holiday in the US.
16:07:48 <eddiejennings> Not sure if the non-US folks still want to meet
16:08:44 <eddiejennings> #info chair 2021-12-02 - petebuffon
16:09:13 <eddiejennings> Any opinions on whether or not 11/25 meeting should take place?
16:10:19 <petebuffon> I'll be on vacation
16:10:33 <mkonecny> I already chairing it and don't have issue with it
16:10:43 <mkonecny> I mean the 11/25
16:11:01 <mkonecny> No need to skip it
16:11:02 <eddiejennings> I though zlopez had 11/25
16:11:37 <eddiejennings> I'll change to mkonecny
16:11:39 <austinpowered> I don't see the downside to keeing it scheduled. Understandably, some folks won't be able to attend.
16:11:57 <eddiejennings> #info chair 2021-11-25 mkonecny
16:12:35 <eddiejennings> so we have 11/25 and 12/2 set for chairs.  That's fine for now.  And 11/25 meeting will proceed as scheduled.
16:12:48 <eddiejennings> #topic announcements and information
16:13:03 <eddiejennings> #info CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in #centos-meeting
16:13:13 <eddiejennings> #info CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-meeting-3
16:13:23 <eddiejennings> #info If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team, file an isssue: https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request
16:13:32 <eddiejennings> #info Fedora 35 is out!
16:13:44 <eddiejennings> Other announcements?
16:14:23 <Leo[m]123> .hello leo
16:14:23 <zodbot> Leo[m]123: [hellomynameis leo]
16:14:29 <VipulSiddharth[m> .hello siddharthvipul1
16:14:29 <zodbot> VipulSiddharth[m: [hellomynameis siddharthvipul1]
16:14:37 <Leo[m]123> wot that’s different
16:14:51 <VipulSiddharth[m> yeah, wasn't prepared for that
16:14:53 <VipulSiddharth[m> lol
16:15:04 <Leo[m]123> uhh
16:15:04 <mkonecny> .hello zlopez
16:15:04 <zodbot> mkonecny: [hellomynameis zlopez]
16:15:15 <Leo[m]123> .hello2 leo
16:15:15 <zodbot> Leo[m]123: [hellomynameis Leo [m] 123]
16:15:20 <eddiejennings> ah, that makes more sense :D
16:15:23 <mkonecny> Strange
16:15:36 <eddiejennings> Hearing no new announcements, we'll move along.
16:15:40 <Leo[m]123> Wait that’s not it either
16:15:42 <Leo[m]123> Whatever
16:15:49 <mkonecny> .hi
16:15:49 <zodbot> mkonecny: [hellomynameis mkonecny]
16:15:58 <Leo[m]123> wot
16:16:05 <Leo[m]123> I liked the old one better
16:16:07 <eddiejennings> #topic Oncall
16:16:16 <eddiejennings> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall
16:16:23 <eddiejennings> #info https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
16:16:31 <eddiejennings> ## .oncalltakeeu .oncalltakeus
16:16:40 <eddiejennings> #info eddiejennings on call from 2021-11-11 to 2021-11-18
16:16:48 <eddiejennings> #info mobrien on call from 2021-11-18 to 2021-11-25
16:16:58 <eddiejennings> #info LenkaSegura on call from 2021-11-25 to 2021-12-02
16:17:08 <austinpowered> +1 old .hi
16:17:18 <eddiejennings> Any takers for 2012-12-02 through 2021-12-09?
16:17:22 <Leo[m]123> +1
16:17:34 <Leo[m]123> 2012? lol
16:17:39 <mobrien> .oncalltakeeu
16:17:39 <zodbot> mobrien: Error: You don't have the alias.add capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
16:17:39 <eddiejennings> bah
16:17:41 <nirik> I can take it... but yeah, 2021
16:17:42 <eddiejennings> I can't win today
16:18:05 <mkonecny> It will be a long oncall :D
16:18:06 <eddiejennings> time change, crazy zodbot, and typos.  Everything's terrible! :P
16:18:27 <nirik> :)
16:18:40 <eddiejennings> #info nirik on call from 2021-12-02 to 2021-12-09
16:19:05 <eddiejennings> That gives us 3 weeks of on-call, so all is good.
16:19:07 <eddiejennings> #info Summary of last week: (from current oncall )
16:19:19 <austinpowered> Is something wrong with https://board.net/p/fedora-infra? Won't load for me.
16:19:20 <eddiejennings> There was one ping about not being able to use scp
16:19:32 <eddiejennings> I think the issue was said server couldn't talk to FreeIPA
16:19:49 <Leo[m]123> Yeah
16:20:15 <eddiejennings> I cannot recall if it was resolved or if I ticket was made about it.
16:21:43 <eddiejennings> Other than that, it was a quiet week for oncall summons, but busy for nirik and the gang
16:21:47 <nirik> it was resolved. it was an network outage...
16:22:00 <eddiejennings> Speaking of. . .
16:22:11 <eddiejennings> #topic Monitoring discussion [nirik]
16:22:17 <eddiejennings> #info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios
16:22:24 <eddiejennings> #info Go over existing out items and fix
16:22:29 <eddiejennings> The floor is your's!
16:23:45 <mobrien> .oncalltakeeu
16:23:46 <zodbot> mobrien: Kneel before zod!
16:24:29 <eddiejennings> Hmm.  I might be seeing an IRC server split
16:24:57 <eddiejennings> either that or the Matrix bridge has died
16:25:08 <petebuffon> ya I see a lot of [m]s
16:25:42 <eddiejennings> nirik: Any monitoring news?
16:25:55 <nirik> lets see.
16:26:18 <eddiejennings> Other than everything rebooting? :D
16:26:27 <nirik> some builders down (but they were before)
16:26:49 <nirik> we had a virthost down, but it seems like it just came up
16:27:43 <nirik> otherwise business as usual. Oh, we cleared a few disk space issues during the outage...
16:28:03 <nirik> added space to db01, and torrent02
16:28:08 <nirik> thats about it, can move on
16:28:13 <eddiejennings> Sounds good.
16:28:35 <eddiejennings> Looks like last week we reviewed old tickets.  Do we have a learning topic for this week?
16:29:33 <nirik> I'm not sure and the board is down.
16:29:39 <eddiejennings> Yeah :(
16:30:17 <eddiejennings> Well, I can say at work I learned yesterday that IPv6 reverse DNS zones must follow nibble boundaries.  Not knowing that lead to much heartburn >(
16:30:23 <eddiejennings> So PSA for all ---^
16:31:33 <eddiejennings> Speaking of board.net.  Is that something we support?
16:35:30 <eddiejennings> I assume it's just used as a way to keep notes and collaborate on them right?
16:35:58 <eddiejennings> If so (assuming said app would exist for this), have we considered a possible project of deploying our own?
16:36:54 <austinpowered> I have a question on protocol.
16:37:13 <eddiejennings> #topic open floor
16:37:20 <eddiejennings> austinpowered: Go ahead :)
16:37:48 <nirik> we don't support board.net, just use it.
16:38:01 <austinpowered> I have deployed an SSH CA on my LAN but I'm havving issues with getting TOFU to work with fedoraproject.org
16:38:59 <austinpowered> Is that something I ask about in #fedora-admin or do I start an email thread?
16:39:07 <nirik> TOFU?
16:39:27 <mkonecny> Shouldn't there be a learning topic today?
16:39:27 <austinpowered> Trust On First Use
16:39:29 <nirik> ah, trust on first use?
16:39:29 <petebuffon> I've messed around with this a bit https://hedgedoc.org/.
16:39:36 <eddiejennings> <-- has never used CA along with SSH
16:39:40 <nirik> mkonecny: we have no access to the board.net to see. ;(
16:39:44 <mkonecny> I see, the board.net is not working :-/
16:39:55 <eddiejennings> mkonecny: I asked, but board.net is down and no one spoke up for learning topic :(
16:40:03 <nirik> austinpowered: add https://admin.fedoraproject.org/ssh_known_hosts to your local known_hosts
16:40:03 <austinpowered> There is a CA for host keys
16:40:17 <austinpowered> did that
16:40:38 <petebuffon> hedgedocs is a self hosted collaborative markdown editor
16:41:31 <austinpowered> CA finds valid host key
16:41:46 <eddiejennings> petebuffon: Looks interesting.
16:42:40 <mkonecny> Plenty of infra folks is in another meeting, so it's hard to watch everything :-/
16:43:10 <eddiejennings> Yeah.  I figured there must've been some kind of event conflict.  It happens. :)
16:43:17 <petebuffon> here's a demo instance https://demo.hedgedoc.org/9C-xuzFaRqqZzY_yooMy4w#
16:44:22 <nirik> well, lets see if board.net comes back or we need to find a new place
16:44:42 <eddiejennings> Yeah, I'm not suggesting we make a change now, just giving food for thought.
16:45:06 <eddiejennings> For austinpowered's issue would that be worthy of an E-mail thread or a ticket, you think?
16:45:22 <nirik> email or admin discussion. Not a ticket.
16:45:40 <nirik> tickets are good for 'do this thing' but horrible for 'debug this thing' ;) IMHO
16:46:06 <eddiejennings> I could agree with that.
16:46:26 <mkonecny> For me it doesn't work till morning on EMEA standup we had 500
16:47:55 <eddiejennings> Any other topics to discuss?
16:51:11 <eddiejennings> Hearning none, and it's a bit early, but I motion to adjourn :)
16:52:05 <eddiejennings> I suppose I could open a Matrix instance and second my own motion ;)
16:53:04 <eddiejennings> I'm going to close it out.  Thanks for coming folks, and for those with a holiday next week, enjoy it! :D
16:53:23 <eddiejennings> #endmeetinig
16:53:30 <eddiejennings> #endmeeting