14:59:55 <mboddu> #startmeeting RELENG (2020-03-17) 14:59:55 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Mar 17 14:59:55 2020 UTC. 14:59:55 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 14:59:55 <zodbot> The chair is mboddu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:59:55 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:59:55 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'releng_(2020-03-17)' 14:59:56 <mboddu> #meetingname releng 14:59:56 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'releng' 14:59:56 <mboddu> #chair nirik sharkcz pbrobinson pingou mboddu dustymabe ksinny jednorozec 14:59:56 <mboddu> #topic init process 14:59:56 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe jednorozec ksinny mboddu nirik pbrobinson pingou sharkcz 15:00:10 <nirik> morning 15:00:36 <sharkcz> hi guys 15:00:56 <mboddu> Hello guys 15:01:11 <mboddu> I need 5 min, sorry and lets wait for other people to join in the mean time 15:01:35 <nirik> no worries. 15:05:30 <mboddu> Okay, I am back 15:05:41 * cverna is around 15:06:02 <mboddu> #topic #9320 Silverblue composes fail on aarch64 and ppc64le because it requires flatpaks 15:06:07 <mboddu> #link https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9320 15:06:24 <mboddu> Both otaylor and pwhalen are not in this channel :( 15:06:27 <nirik> I think otaylor tried to add something to fix this a while back, but it didn't work... 15:06:36 <mboddu> sharkcz: Have you heard from them? 15:07:01 <sharkcz> not yet 15:09:00 <mboddu> Hmm I am not able to find otaylor on irc and I dont want to PM him if he is on PTO, oh well, lets wait then 15:09:06 <sharkcz> I think we could drop the flatpak line for non-x86 and see the result 15:09:20 <sharkcz> it can't be worse :-) 15:09:45 <mboddu> sharkcz: Sure, we could try it in rawhide 15:09:58 <nirik> where? 15:10:01 <mboddu> Actually, are we building any flatpaks for non-x86_64 arch? 15:10:13 <sharkcz> and I believe we had some test successful in openqa earlier for silverblue 15:10:15 <sharkcz> nope 15:10:18 <sharkcz> afaik 15:10:41 <mboddu> nirik: https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/c/c728ed5f0d69131210348cccecbe96962bad52ac?branch=master 15:11:02 <nirik> we are not, but aarch64 perhaps soon. 15:11:13 <nirik> just remove that? it will break flatpaks on x86_64... 15:11:26 <sharkcz> remove the line only for aarch64 and ppc64le 15:11:46 <sharkcz> they have per-arch entries for silverblue in the pungi config 15:12:02 <sharkcz> each arch has its own config 15:12:07 <nirik> ah, ok. 15:12:11 <nirik> sure, worth a shot 15:12:14 <sharkcz> I can make the PR 15:12:50 <mboddu> sharkcz: Awesome, I will take a look at it 15:14:24 <mboddu> #info Since we are not building flatpaks for non x86_64 arches, we will remove flatpak config part of Silverblue in pungi configs of rawhide for aarch64 and ppc64le and see what happens. 15:14:49 <mboddu> #topic #9279 Workstation image fails for ppc64le due missing bcm283x-firmware 15:14:55 <mboddu> #link https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9279 15:15:11 <mboddu> sharkcz: I am guessing we can close this ticket as its fixed? 15:15:28 <sharkcz> is it? 15:15:56 <sharkcz> I haven't looked recently :-) 15:17:50 <mboddu> sharkcz: Yup, https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/rawhide/latest-Fedora-Rawhide/compose/Workstation/ppc64le/iso/ - from recent rawhide compose 15:17:56 <mboddu> And its also part of f32 beta 15:18:28 <sharkcz> is it the disk image? or the live iso? 15:18:33 <sharkcz> let me look ... 15:19:43 <mboddu> sharkcz: Live 15:20:15 <sharkcz> ok, that one works ok, the problem is the disk image that never worked (afaik) 15:20:33 <sharkcz> the last artifact in https://pagure.io/releng/failed-composes/issue/1134 15:21:21 <sharkcz> I would simple deconfigure it, it's an arm thing 15:21:48 <sharkcz> let me prepare a PR :-) 15:24:03 <mboddu> sharkcz: What is the PR for? 15:24:46 <sharkcz> mboddu: for keeping the disk image only for arm/aarch64 15:26:13 <sharkcz> see the last 2 commits in https://pagure.io/fork/sharkcz/pungi-fedora/commits/master 15:26:21 <mboddu> sharkcz: Okay, I am not sure if anyone is using the desk image for ppc64le 15:26:34 <sharkcz> no one is, it never worked 15:27:09 <mboddu> sharkcz: Looking good, if you make the PR, I will look at them 15:27:18 <sharkcz> ack, a sec 15:27:18 <mboddu> Please make sure to make PR for both f32 and master 15:27:22 <mboddu> sharkcz: Sure, np 15:29:55 <mboddu> #info We decided not to make workstation disk images for ppc64le as it never worked and not used by anyone, we will still keep the live image available for workstation ppc64le. 15:30:31 <mboddu> That reminded me, does anyone know how much a ppc64le box would cost? Last time I checked there were some for $8k, has it been reduced? 15:31:10 <sharkcz> the blackbird is $2k+ 15:31:58 <nirik> cool. 15:32:18 <sharkcz> https://raptorcs.com/content/BK1B01/intro.html, preassembled system under $3k 15:33:46 <mboddu> sharkcz: Ah cool, not bad 15:34:34 <mboddu> #topic #9169 Block unretirement commits 15:34:41 <mboddu> #link https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9169 15:35:01 <mboddu> I hotfixed it using https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9169#comment-625104 15:35:23 <mboddu> Shall we close it or is there a better way to handle this? 15:35:35 * mboddu gets some tea 15:35:36 <nirik> I can't think of any easy ways... 15:36:56 <mboddu> Me neither 15:37:09 <mboddu> Okay, lets close it then 15:38:32 <mboddu> #info We fixed it using last day as the EOL in pdc. Closing the ticket as there is no better way to fix it. 15:42:39 <mboddu> #topic #9014 System Wide Change: Freeze after branching until compose is ready 15:42:46 <mboddu> #info https://pagure.io/releng/issue/9014 15:43:33 <mboddu> Closing this as the work is done 15:45:03 <nirik> yep. I think it went pretty smoothly this time... 15:48:48 <mboddu> #topic Open Floor 15:48:58 <mboddu> #info Fedora 32 Beta is out 15:49:19 <mboddu> And I wanna discuss about armhfp and aarch64 primary and secondary arches 15:49:26 <mboddu> sharkcz: Are you still around? 15:49:46 <sharkcz> yep 15:50:41 <sharkcz> we should have pbrobinson and pwhalen for this 15:51:45 <mboddu> Okay, I think we should promote aarch64 to primary and armhfp to secondary 15:52:10 <mboddu> I am not sure the real outside usage to make the right decision 15:52:50 <nirik> well, I am not sure those terms have much meaning anymore... 15:53:15 <mboddu> nirik: Well, where we sync the content in /pub/ depends on it 15:53:23 <nirik> and thats about it. 15:53:47 <nirik> but yeah, we could swap em... 15:54:06 <mboddu> Right, I will talk to pwhalen and pbrobinson next time 15:54:14 <mboddu> Anything else? 15:54:21 <sharkcz> not from me 15:54:51 * nirik has nothing off hand 15:55:21 <mboddu> Okay, I will give 5 min back to you guys 15:55:25 <mboddu> Thanks for joining 15:55:28 <mboddu> #endmeeting