17:03:16 <FranciscoD> #startmeeting Fedora Join 2018-05-01
17:03:16 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue May  1 17:03:16 2018 UTC.  The chair is FranciscoD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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17:03:16 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_join_2018-05-01'
17:03:26 <FranciscoD> #meetingname fedora-join
17:03:26 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-join'
17:03:31 * sadin waves
17:03:40 <dukebarman> .hello2
17:03:41 <zodbot> dukebarman: dukebarman 'None' <dukebarman@protonmail.com>
17:03:44 * dukebarman waves
17:03:46 <FranciscoD> #chair sadin dhanesh95 dukebarman
17:03:46 <zodbot> Current chairs: FranciscoD dhanesh95 dukebarman sadin
17:03:54 <FranciscoD> I'll go remind folks in other channels
17:04:40 <FranciscoD> .hello2
17:04:41 <zodbot> FranciscoD: Sorry, but you don't exist
17:04:44 <FranciscoD> :o
17:04:48 <dukebarman> o_O
17:04:52 <FranciscoD> .hello ankursinha
17:04:53 <zodbot> FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' <sanjay.ankur@gmail.com>
17:04:55 <sadin> .hello2
17:04:55 <FranciscoD> ;)
17:04:56 <zodbot> sadin: sadin 'Zachary Snyder' <sadin.fpo@gmail.com>
17:05:06 <FranciscoD> has to be the FAS, not the IRC nick I reckon
17:05:23 <sadin> .hello
17:05:23 <zodbot> sadin: (hello <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1".
17:05:28 <FranciscoD> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Guide
17:05:34 <FranciscoD> This is what we'll follow, of course
17:05:43 <FranciscoD> #link Agenda is here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Join/Next_Meeting
17:05:57 <FranciscoD> let's wait a few minutes for others to turn up :)
17:06:17 <dukebarman> Yep
17:06:24 <sadin> sounds good
17:07:49 <FranciscoD> #link Minutes from our last meeting are here: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fedora-join/fedora-join.2018-04-17-17.01.html
17:08:35 * FranciscoD will continue in 2 minutes
17:10:46 <FranciscoD> OK, lets continue then :)
17:10:56 <FranciscoD> #topic New member introductions
17:11:00 <FranciscoD> Any new folks here? ;)
17:11:05 * FranciscoD doesn't think so
17:11:25 * FranciscoD waits a minute
17:11:57 <FranciscoD> Going once
17:12:01 <FranciscoD> Going twice..
17:12:12 <FranciscoD> Going thrice..
17:12:14 <FranciscoD> Gone!
17:12:19 <FranciscoD> #topic Announcements
17:12:25 <FranciscoD> Well, the obvious one ;)
17:12:41 <FranciscoD> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-28/ Fedora 28 is out!
17:12:55 <FranciscoD> Please grab the latest and greatest software from getfedora.org
17:13:07 <FranciscoD> torrents are at torrent.fedoraproject.org
17:13:19 <FranciscoD> Any one else have any other announcements?
17:13:33 <FranciscoD> sadin: dukebarman ^
17:14:16 <sadin> Looking for opinions on asknot-ng redesign
17:14:33 <sadin> or should I say whatcanidoforfedora.org
17:14:37 <FranciscoD> ah, nice, yeh, that'll come up again later ;)
17:15:10 <sadin> sweet :) ill find ticket tracking link
17:15:26 <FranciscoD> sadin: lovely, we can discuss that properly as a whole separate topic then
17:15:39 <dukebarman> I think 28 release is a big announcement :) And have moved anothers
17:15:55 <sadin> Agreed!
17:16:00 <FranciscoD> Yeh, it makes everything else appear.. small XD
17:16:10 <FranciscoD> OK, next topic then I reckon
17:16:18 <FranciscoD> #topic Tasks from last week
17:16:30 <dukebarman> Wait for feedback from users and thoughts about new features
17:16:49 <FranciscoD> dukebarman: that's already happening. Check out the comments on the magazine post etc ;)
17:16:59 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD mention easyfix in #fedora-join again - DONE
17:17:12 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD Get in touch with the mindshare group to see if we can get mentoring back on track - PENDING
17:17:33 <FranciscoD> someone pointed out to me that the mindshare group isn't looking at mentoring in general, they're looking at mentoring for the ambassadors programme
17:17:42 <FranciscoD> But I should speak to them and confirm
17:17:47 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD Get in touch with the mindshare group to see if we can get mentoring back on track
17:18:16 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD announce the openshift task on #fedora-join - DONE (this is about setting up limesurvey on our infra cloud)
17:18:23 <dhanesh95> .hello dhanesh95
17:18:25 <zodbot> dhanesh95: dhanesh95 'Dhanesh Bhalchandra Sabane' <dhanesh95@disroot.org>
17:18:32 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD send out logs, ready next meeting page - DONE
17:18:41 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD send out logs, ready next meeting page
17:18:45 <FranciscoD> has to be done again
17:18:59 <FranciscoD> #info dhanesh95 extract action items that commops can work on - DONE
17:19:08 <FranciscoD> #info FranciscoD extract action items that fedora-join can work on - DONE
17:19:16 <dhanesh95> Wait!
17:19:23 <dhanesh95> Not done! :(
17:19:28 <FranciscoD> oh, but it is done ;)
17:19:30 <FranciscoD> https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/Easyfix-tasks
17:19:33 <FranciscoD> dukebarman: sadin ^
17:19:38 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: You did it?
17:19:45 <FranciscoD> sadin: as you'll see, there are a few ideas about wcidff in there
17:19:47 <FranciscoD> dhanesh95: yeppers
17:19:54 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: God bless you!
17:20:01 <FranciscoD> turned out to be a lot less time consuming that I thought it'd be XD
17:20:20 <FranciscoD> Please feel free to edit the etherpad and add your comments
17:20:38 <FranciscoD> (do enter a name on the top right hand corner so we know who is who, though :P)
17:20:55 <FranciscoD> This is merely a break down of the ideas from bexelbie 's e-mail
17:20:57 <FranciscoD> bexelbie++
17:20:59 <zodbot> FranciscoD: Karma for bex changed to 1 (for the f28 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:21:29 <FranciscoD> Some of the tasks may be re-organised I guess, but I couldn't find anything that particularly spoke out as a fedora-join task
17:22:13 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: That means we'll be filing tickets everywhere else but in fedora-join?
17:22:33 <FranciscoD> yeh, I guess
17:22:40 <FranciscoD> and if possible, assign them to ourselves
17:23:14 <sadin> is wcidff infra? They orphaned it and I had taken control so we can own it collectively if we want.
17:24:05 <FranciscoD> i dont know, i thought its on infra
17:24:24 <FranciscoD> if it isn't, it should be - websites likes all fedora web thingys to be coherent etc
17:24:36 <FranciscoD> i know threebean deployed it on his openshift to begin with
17:24:40 <sadin> Its on infra, but the only person maintaining it right now is myself
17:25:01 <FranciscoD> yeh, it's in "maintenance mode" ;)
17:25:03 <sadin> yeah im pretty sure its hosted by websites but beyond that they dont do anything with it.
17:25:12 <sadin> :P
17:25:21 <dukebarman> I agree
17:25:39 <sadin> I agree as well.
17:25:48 <FranciscoD> sadin: do you think it'd be a good idea to get them involved in the re-design etc that you are thinking of doing?
17:26:02 <sadin> #link https://pagure.io/design/issue/589
17:26:17 <sadin> Ticket for redesign is here, while I work on backend im also working on the theme
17:26:31 <FranciscoD> OK, lovely
17:26:41 <sadin> ive asked for feedback and tracking and any input is always welcome
17:26:54 <FranciscoD> sadin: is the plan to use that as a "tracker ticket" and then track smaller tasks in separate tickets?
17:27:06 <FranciscoD> that way, multiple people can take up individual tasks etc
17:27:21 <sadin> In essence yes
17:27:25 <sadin> that ticket is for the redesign
17:27:31 <sadin> for fedoras use case
17:27:38 <sadin> wcidff is an engine
17:27:52 <sadin> all features should probably be kept to github repo issues
17:28:00 <FranciscoD> +1
17:28:29 <FranciscoD> are you maintaining some sort of document folks that want to check on the status etc can refer to?
17:28:40 <FranciscoD> ideally one we can link to if we do a "call for feedback"?
17:28:50 <FranciscoD> and a "call for help", of course
17:29:11 <dukebarman> And maybe better add tasks for translator SIGs to translate wdiff or make "call for help
17:29:19 <sadin> That was planned! Im beginning work this week so if you have a suggestion on where to hold such a doc im all ears
17:29:31 <sadin> wiki?
17:29:39 <FranciscoD> hrm, yeh, a wiki page to start with I reckon
17:29:46 <sadin> Okay
17:30:03 <FranciscoD> can you assign yourself the task? :)
17:30:10 <FranciscoD> for ze logs
17:30:13 <sadin> #action sadin create wiki for wcidff
17:30:19 <FranciscoD> lovely
17:30:31 <FranciscoD> let's look at what else we have on that etherpad then
17:30:43 <FranciscoD> lots on easyfix
17:31:10 <FranciscoD> I think the first task would be to understand exactly how easyfix works
17:31:20 <FranciscoD> and that'd give us an idea of how much work each new "feature" is?
17:32:28 <sadin> Agreed
17:32:42 <FranciscoD> dhanesh95: do you want to take this up with me?
17:33:03 <FranciscoD> and we could write a post on how it works for the commblog or something
17:33:09 <dhanesh95> +1
17:33:21 <FranciscoD> #action dhanesh95 look into how easyfix works
17:33:27 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD look into how easyfix works
17:33:39 <FranciscoD> #action dhanesh95 possibly write commblog post detailing findings
17:33:44 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD possibly write commblog post detailing findings
17:33:58 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD open ticket to track easyfix inspection and info
17:34:29 <FranciscoD> we really do need some sort of survey system to collect feedback
17:34:46 <FranciscoD> otherwise a lot of what we do is based on assumptions
17:35:14 <FranciscoD> #action SOMEONE look at setting up limesurvey on fedora infra
17:35:16 <FranciscoD> :/
17:35:36 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: Weren't there talks about setting up limesurvey?
17:35:53 <dhanesh95> I remember it coming up multiple times in CommOps meetings
17:36:01 <FranciscoD> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/6579
17:36:11 <FranciscoD> needs someone to do the work
17:36:13 <sadin> #action sadin remind FranciscoD to have a discussion on easyfix implimentation once he and dhanesh95 are done learning about it
17:36:22 <sadin> lets see what the work entails
17:37:04 <dukebarman> FranciscoD, have we got survey system yet?
17:37:18 <FranciscoD> dukebarman: nope
17:37:26 <dhanesh95> Ohh my. That ticket is open since a long time and no one has taken it up yet.
17:37:50 <FranciscoD> dhanesh95: yeh, well, initially it was waiting for the new openshift infra
17:37:58 <FranciscoD> and then well, i got too busy to even look at it
17:38:02 <dukebarman> If no, how can we insert into infra and users can easy find this
17:38:23 <FranciscoD> dukebarman: well, they have their openshift infra now (i think)
17:38:34 <FranciscoD> someone needs to figure out the openshift side on how it is to be deployed
17:38:36 <sadin> I can poke around in -apps about getting it running
17:38:39 <sadin> this week
17:38:46 <FranciscoD> that'd be lovely sadin
17:38:52 <dukebarman> o good
17:38:54 <FranciscoD> would you test it on a personal openshift first?
17:39:05 <FranciscoD> i think i have a personal free tier openshift thing too
17:39:19 <sadin> #action sadin test limesurvey in openshift
17:39:28 <FranciscoD> sadin: it isn't urgent, but any pointers to help someone pick it up would be useful
17:39:43 <sadin> Ill gladly get that ball rollings
17:39:53 <FranciscoD> yeh, thanks a bunch
17:39:54 <FranciscoD> :)
17:39:57 <sadin> np
17:40:11 <dhanesh95> sadin++
17:40:11 <zodbot> dhanesh95: Karma for sadin changed to 2 (for the f28 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:40:20 <dukebarman> sadin++
17:40:20 <zodbot> dukebarman: Karma for sadin changed to 3 (for the f28 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
17:40:38 <FranciscoD> that seems to be the end of the tasks from last week
17:41:00 <FranciscoD> we had lots of ideas on the podcast - what should we do about that?
17:41:08 <FranciscoD> #topic New items
17:41:21 <FranciscoD> (look for the IDEAs in https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fedora-join/fedora-join.2018-04-17-17.01.html)
17:42:01 <dukebarman> Need info from x3mboy
17:42:10 <sadin> Ah yes the podcast, love it as an idea
17:42:16 <sadin> x3mboy is running it yes?
17:42:21 <dukebarman> Yep and yep
17:42:24 <FranciscoD> yes, single handedly as far as I know
17:42:35 <FranciscoD> dhanesh95: is the podcast managed by commops?
17:42:37 <FranciscoD> or is it mktg?
17:42:42 <FranciscoD> or is there a podcast sig?
17:42:46 <FranciscoD> anyone know
17:42:47 <FranciscoD> ?
17:42:53 <dukebarman> I think this is mktg
17:42:54 <sadin> no info was about to ask the same
17:43:11 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: Podcasts are not managed by CommOps.
17:43:28 <dhanesh95> x3mboy is the one man army here for podcasts afaik
17:43:56 <FranciscoD> do folks here think we should adopt the podcast project and help out x3mboy until a supporting team is built?
17:44:03 <FranciscoD> folks interested in that?
17:44:25 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: I think it is more of a marketing task than a "Join" task.
17:44:33 <sadin> I am, I do audio production on the side
17:44:39 <sadin> so I can help in some way im sure
17:44:44 <dukebarman> Need ask him about kind of help
17:44:52 <sadin> right
17:44:53 <FranciscoD> dhanesh95: yeh, but if the mktg team hasn't taken it up yet we can help out in the meantime
17:45:00 <dukebarman> Maybe create wiki page for start
17:45:01 <sadin> +1
17:45:11 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD ask x3mboy who other than him manages the podcasts
17:45:18 <FranciscoD> let's get info first
17:45:27 <FranciscoD> (and not step on people's toes etc ;))
17:45:28 <dhanesh95> +1
17:45:38 <dhanesh95> ++1
17:45:44 <sadin> +1
17:45:48 <FranciscoD> if it's only him, we can look into setting up a sig to help
17:45:48 <dhanesh95> I don't know if that's a thing ^^
17:46:07 <FranciscoD> #idea help out x3mboy with podcasts if a support team doesnt already exist
17:46:18 <sadin> People who dont like Clang think ++ is a thing ;) dhanesh95
17:46:25 <FranciscoD> haha
17:46:30 <dukebarman> :D
17:46:32 <dhanesh95> Hahhaaha.. :D
17:47:00 <FranciscoD> anyone heard from skamath recently? Any idea when he's back?
17:47:06 <FranciscoD> he has chickenpox :(
17:47:15 <sadin> oof
17:47:37 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD take over skamath's admin responsibilites until he returns
17:47:50 <dhanesh95> No news from skamath yet. He has just disappeared!
17:47:51 <FranciscoD> I'll get the classrooms started again - we have a few folks that want to take sessions already
17:48:01 <FranciscoD> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom
17:48:05 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: Count me in for all kind of help
17:48:09 <FranciscoD> +1
17:48:10 <FranciscoD> thanks
17:48:15 <sadin> same if im around ping me!
17:48:39 <FranciscoD> Please add yourselves to wherever you'd like to help here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom#Help_wanted
17:48:43 <dhanesh95> #action dhanesh95 help out FranciscoD with Classroom responsibilities
17:49:10 <sadin> #action sadin help with classroom
17:49:19 <dhanesh95> While we are on the subject, FranciscoD I'm almost done with the final draft of the post.
17:49:54 <FranciscoD> dhanesh95: is that the classroom post?
17:50:01 <FranciscoD> sorry - we're working on so many posts, I forget XD
17:50:20 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: Yes. I'll ping you tomorrow when I'm done.
17:50:48 <dhanesh95> I hope you'll be around.
17:51:13 <FranciscoD> I should be :)
17:51:27 <FranciscoD> #action dhanesh95 ping FranciscoD about classroom post
17:51:47 <FranciscoD> I think we've gotten ourselves into a lot of work today
17:51:51 <dukebarman> FranciscoD, where can ppl find ideas for posts?
17:52:11 <dhanesh95> dukebarman: ankursinha.in
17:52:13 <FranciscoD> dukebarman: ah, well, there isn't a place - if it's your personal blog, make sure it's on the planet, and write about whatever you want :)
17:52:23 <FranciscoD> that's my blog - loadsa random stuff there XD
17:52:34 <dukebarman> oh :D
17:52:36 <dukebarman> okay
17:53:11 <FranciscoD> dukebarman: i didn't assign any tasks to you, but please feel free to help out wherever you think you're interested :)
17:53:17 <FranciscoD> as you see, there's lots of work XD
17:53:26 <FranciscoD> OK, that's a lot of new ideas
17:53:31 <FranciscoD> #topic Open floor
17:53:44 <FranciscoD> dukebarman: would you like to chair our next meeting in two weeks, for example? ;)
17:54:01 <FranciscoD> it's real easy, as you can see :)
17:54:12 <FranciscoD> we should rotate the chair, shouldn't we?
17:54:13 <FranciscoD> ;)
17:54:36 <dukebarman> If I will be online I can help you
17:54:44 <dhanesh95> That is an excellent idea FranciscoD
17:55:10 <dukebarman> Have a guide for it? :) or only https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Guide is enough
17:56:04 <FranciscoD> dukebarman: that's enough, and the rest you wing, like I did today ;)
17:56:24 <FranciscoD> ok, so let's say dukebarman chairs next week's meeting, and if he isn't available, dhanesh95 would you?
17:56:31 <FranciscoD> we can go in a round robin fashion
17:56:43 <dhanesh95> FranciscoD: Yes! I always wanted to chair a meeting :P
17:57:30 <FranciscoD> #action dukebarman chair next meeting
17:57:32 <dukebarman> I think dhanesh95 is a better and if he isn't available I can help :)
17:57:41 <FranciscoD> dukebarman: nah, he can do the next one ;)
17:57:48 <dukebarman> okay :D
17:57:49 <FranciscoD> #action dhanesh95 second next meeting
17:57:53 <dhanesh95> +1
17:58:03 <FranciscoD> #idea Follow a round robin rota for chairing meetings
17:58:16 <FranciscoD> #action FranciscoD update next meeting page
17:58:26 <FranciscoD> (that's one of the responsibilities of the chair, along with sending out logs)
17:58:43 <FranciscoD> OK, let's close the meeting then, unless anyone has anything else to discuss?
17:58:47 <FranciscoD> Going once
17:59:36 <FranciscoD> Going twice
17:59:39 <dhanesh95> Nothing from my side
17:59:45 <sadin> im good
17:59:57 <FranciscoD> Going thrice
18:00:00 <FranciscoD> and..
18:00:01 <dhanesh95> Sold!
18:00:02 <FranciscoD> Gone
18:00:05 <FranciscoD> XD
18:00:08 <FranciscoD> #endmeeting