19:07:43 <brainycmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2023-04-25) 19:07:43 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Apr 25 19:07:43 2023 UTC. 19:07:43 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 19:07:43 <zodbot> The chair is brainycmurf. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 19:07:43 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:07:43 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation_wg_(2023-04-25)' 19:07:43 <brainycmurf> #meetingname workstation 19:07:44 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation' 19:07:44 <brainycmurf> #chair Allan 19:07:44 <zodbot> Current chairs: Allan brainycmurf 19:07:54 <brainycmurf> #info Present members: Allan, Kalev, Chris, Owen 19:07:54 <brainycmurf> #info Guests: Luna Jernberg(bittin), jkonecny, mkolman 19:07:54 <brainycmurf> #info Regrets: Matthias, Tomas, Neal 19:07:54 <brainycmurf> #info Missing: 19:07:54 <brainycmurf> #info Secretary: Jens 19:07:54 <brainycmurf> #topic FWWG Chair for Fedora 39 cycle 19:07:56 <brainycmurf> Allan has volunteered. Any objections? 19:07:58 <brainycmurf> #agreed Allan will be WG Chair for F39 cycle 19:08:00 <brainycmurf> #topic Anaconda Web UI requirements 19:08:02 <brainycmurf> #info Replacement for custom partitioning 19:08:04 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/375 19:08:06 <brainycmurf> Allan, will be using mountpoint assignments? 19:08:08 <brainycmurf> Jiri: rather than custom partitioning, prefer to strengthen the guided partitioning which should actually improve the experience for advanced users 19:08:11 <brainycmurf> Reusable home would be possible using a guided workflow 19:08:13 <brainycmurf> Kalev: thinks that this will work well 19:08:15 <brainycmurf> Owen: it could work for splitting up a disk, but what about creating more complex layouts like with LVM? 19:08:18 <brainycmurf> Jiri: would like to understand the custom partitioning request from WG better 19:08:22 <brainycmurf> Martin: concrete custom cases would be helpful 19:08:24 <brainycmurf> Jiri: in general custom partitioning UX is not great for anyway, prefer to handle common cases with guided partitioning 19:08:27 <brainycmurf> Chris: Server case may be more affected 19:08:29 <brainycmurf> Jiri: feels kickstart more common for such complex deployments 19:08:31 <brainycmurf> Allan: can also have WS remote deployments at scale 19:08:33 <brainycmurf> Some discussion about partition help/documentation visibility/availability 19:08:35 <brainycmurf> Jiri: can only tell required partition sizes satisfied after mountpoints assigned 19:08:37 <brainycmurf> Owen: some people might use custom partitioning to experiment with layouts before final install 19:08:39 <brainycmurf> Martin: users will be able to see the final layout on final partition confirmation review screen 19:08:41 <brainycmurf> Martin: currently automated partitioning doesn't show layout 19:08:43 <brainycmurf> Allan: probably fine for many users 19:08:45 <brainycmurf> Owen: could have an expander to see partition details 19:08:47 <brainycmurf> Allan: could even have partitioning tool in the Live image if necessary 19:08:51 <brainycmurf> #info Separate home 19:08:53 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/376 19:08:55 <brainycmurf> Jiri: seems lesser priority for WS 19:08:57 <brainycmurf> Owen: generally prefer WS users to use default partitioning (btrfs + home subvolume) and not confuse/touble users with other choices 19:09:00 <brainycmurf> Allan: good to have clear distinguish between default and custom partitioning 19:09:02 <brainycmurf> Chris: note that release criteria say that if installer allows feature, it must work 19:09:04 <brainycmurf> #info Select partitioning scheme 19:09:06 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/377 19:09:08 <brainycmurf> deferred to next time 19:09:10 <brainycmurf> #info Dual boot support 19:09:12 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/371 19:09:14 <brainycmurf> deferred to next time 19:09:16 <brainycmurf> #topic Announcements and status updates 19:09:20 <brainycmurf> #info LAS and HDR hackfest ongoing 19:09:22 <brainycmurf> #info Gnome 44.1 point releases 19:09:24 <brainycmurf> #info Last week's meeting minutes 19:09:26 <brainycmurf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-04-19/workstation.2023-04-19-23.47.log.html 19:09:29 <brainycmurf> #endmeeting