00:46:42 <brainycmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2022-12-06)
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00:46:42 <brainycmurf> #meetingname workstation
00:46:42 <brainycmurf> #chair Allan
00:46:42 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation'
00:46:42 <zodbot> Current chairs: Allan brainycmurf
00:46:53 <brainycmurf> #info Present members: Chris, Michael, Owen, Allan, Tomáš, Neal
00:46:53 <brainycmurf> #info Guests: Zac
00:46:53 <brainycmurf> #info Regrets: Jens, Kalev, Matthias
00:46:53 <brainycmurf> #info Secretary: Chris
00:46:53 <brainycmurf> #topic Red Hat Bugzilla: GNOME packages are in bad shape
00:46:54 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/131
00:46:56 <brainycmurf> Tomáš reports GNOME SIG is working to put together a system to triage and fix bugs; putting together a mailing list; changing ownerships of packages as needed.
00:46:59 <brainycmurf> #topic default monospace font is extremely small
00:47:01 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/134
00:47:03 <brainycmurf> Michael: approaching 3 year anniversary of the ticket, not sure what to do about it. We used to be using fontconfig-default thus using what upstream was using, but for monospace font we're using SourceCode Pro in GUI apps.
00:47:09 <brainycmurf> Terminal default: 10pt is close to intended by upstream than 11pt, which is too big.
00:47:11 <brainycmurf> Neal: hidpi screens make 10pt less useful than 11pt
00:47:13 <brainycmurf> Owen: shouldn't use font size to work around fractional scaling, they are separate things
00:47:15 <brainycmurf> Could be fractional scaling is the issue, whether default or ability to auto-detect
00:47:17 <brainycmurf> #info upstream issue
00:47:19 <brainycmurf> #link https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gsettings-desktop-schemas/-/issues/26
00:47:21 <brainycmurf> Allan: crux of problem is we don't have a unified font family, choices are limited
00:47:23 <brainycmurf> Michael: proposal to focus on fractional scaling
00:47:25 <brainycmurf> #agreed focus on fractional scaling as way forward
00:47:27 <brainycmurf> #topic GNOME Software is recommending proprietary software
00:47:29 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/203
00:47:31 <brainycmurf> The issue remaining is a way to advertise apps, as noted in the issue it could easily be fixed by committing the "Featured by %s" string upstream.
00:47:34 <brainycmurf> Allan: Quite a lot is in flux in this area
00:47:38 <brainycmurf> Everything is in place to show featured apps in Fedora but it's not yet enabled, needs the commit above and translations.
00:47:41 <brainycmurf> Next step: consider effect of unfiltered flathub
00:47:43 <brainycmurf> #topic Improve the quality of the desktop wallpapers & ensure they're maintained
00:47:45 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/293
00:47:47 <brainycmurf> Sizes, dark mode support, hdr (png to webp), could be concensus forming around jpegxl format. Open ended discussion on consistency, style, preferences, and the direction we should go in.
00:47:50 <brainycmurf> #topic Announcements, Status Updates
00:47:52 <brainycmurf> #info The minutes from last week have been posted.
00:47:54 <brainycmurf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-11-23/workstation.2022-11-23-04.31.log.html
00:47:57 <brainycmurf> Neal working on Live Media related changes (last of sysVinit scripts going away)
00:47:59 <brainycmurf> Autofirstboot scripts for installing openh264 and removing anaconda is awaiting fesco approval
00:48:01 <brainycmurf> Will probably add autoremoval of livesys-scripts to autofirstboot scripts
00:48:03 <brainycmurf> Some work has been done on the unfiltered flathub change proposal since last week
01:35:24 <brainycmurf> #endmeeting