17:36:06 <brainycmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2022-10-11) 17:36:06 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Oct 13 17:36:06 2022 UTC. 17:36:06 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 17:36:06 <zodbot> The chair is brainycmurf. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 17:36:06 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:36:06 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation_wg_(2022-10-11)' 17:36:06 <brainycmurf> #meetingname workstation 17:36:06 <brainycmurf> #chair Allan 17:36:06 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation' 17:36:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: Allan brainycmurf 17:36:16 <brainycmurf> #info Present members: Allan, Chris, Michael, Neal 17:36:17 <brainycmurf> #info Guests: Luna(bittin), Zac 17:36:17 <brainycmurf> #info Regrets: Kalev, Matthias, Tomas, Jens 17:36:17 <brainycmurf> #info Missing: 17:36:17 <brainycmurf> #info Secretary: Michael 17:36:18 <brainycmurf> WG does not have quorum. We can discuss things but not make binding decisions. 17:36:20 <brainycmurf> #topic Meeting time 17:36:22 <brainycmurf> Best time slots according to the poll: 17:36:24 <brainycmurf> Time Yes If needs be No 17:36:26 <brainycmurf> Tue, 10:00 8 0 1 (Neal) 17:36:28 <brainycmurf> Mon, 10:00 7 1 (Matthias) 1 (Neal) 17:36:30 <brainycmurf> Thu, 9:00 7 1 (Owen) 1 (Neal) 17:36:32 <brainycmurf> Tue, 9:30 7 0 2 (Matthias, Jens) 17:36:34 <brainycmurf> Wed, 10:00 7 0 2 (Neal, Tom) 17:36:36 <brainycmurf> Thu, 9:30 7 0 2 (Neal, Jens) 17:36:38 <brainycmurf> #info No proposed time works for everyone. Tuesday at 10:00 or Thursday at 9:00 are most likely. 17:36:40 <brainycmurf> Neal is OK with 10:00 Tuesday if he doesn't have to be secretary anymore. 17:36:42 <brainycmurf> Michael proposes 45 minute meeting time rather than 1 hour. 17:36:44 <brainycmurf> #topic F37 release status 17:36:48 <brainycmurf> Likely to postpone 1 week 17:36:50 <brainycmurf> Kalev on vacation 10-24 October 17:36:52 <brainycmurf> Flatpak builds are fixed 17:36:54 <brainycmurf> Go/no-go is on Thursday (13 October) at 17:00 UTC 17:36:56 <brainycmurf> Early target release date: 18 October 17:36:58 <brainycmurf> #topic Apps with F37 blockers 17:37:00 <brainycmurf> Contacts and calendar both have outstanding blockers. 17:37:02 <brainycmurf> Changes to recurring events don't redraw correctly - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2132769 - outstanding part of a previous blocker 17:37:05 <brainycmurf> Editing a recurring event moves it forward in time - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2132772 - new issue introduced in the last update 17:37:08 <brainycmurf> Milan has provided hints for these, but he won't save us this time. 17:37:10 <brainycmurf> #action Allan to speak to Georges 17:37:12 <brainycmurf> Do we want to request an exception so we don't need to fix the issues? 17:37:14 <brainycmurf> Do we want to remove Calendar? Then the GNOME Shell calendar and also notifications from evolution-data-server do not work well anymore. 17:37:19 <brainycmurf> #info Fundamental problem is lack of upstream maintenance. The maintainer is responsible for lots of other GNOME stuff and has limited time to dedicate to this app. The status quo is not sustainable. 17:37:22 <brainycmurf> Editing an existing contact's email address causes Contacts to display an empty "Unnamed Person" card, other edits made at the same time are lost - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2130657 - fixed upstream, downstream backport pending. We should be good here. 17:37:26 <brainycmurf> Link Contacts feature completely broken - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2130661 - Niels will investigate. Worst comes to worst, Michael will patch out the button so we can release. Not going to actually delay Fedora release over this. 17:37:30 <brainycmurf> #topic Other F37 blockers 17:37:32 <brainycmurf> #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/37/final/buglist 17:37:34 <brainycmurf> #info UNRESOLVED: glibc 2.36+ breaks EAC with removal of DT_HASH (and other game libraries), making games fail to load 17:37:37 <brainycmurf> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2129358 17:37:39 <brainycmurf> Neal provided a fix for this, but it has not been applied by downstream maintainers. 17:37:41 <brainycmurf> FIX INCOMING: Abrt does not report a segfault which is reported in journalctl - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2128662 17:37:44 <brainycmurf> FIX INCOMING: On Screen Keyboard cannot type a space anywhere - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2131837 17:37:49 <brainycmurf> This is an ibus-typing-booster bug. Mike Fabian is investigating. 17:37:51 <brainycmurf> #info Mesa 22.2.0~rc3 is built without support for common video codecs, missing mesa-va-drivers might cause issues 17:37:54 <brainycmurf> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2123998 17:37:56 <brainycmurf> - Ray has been digging into this one 17:37:58 <brainycmurf> - The title of the bug report does not match the actual issue. The real problem is GNOME does not start. 17:38:01 <brainycmurf> #topic fontconfig brokenness on Silverblue 17:38:03 <brainycmurf> #link https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/fontconfig/fontconfig/-/issues/330 17:38:05 <brainycmurf> #link https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/fontconfig/fontconfig/-/issues/331 17:38:07 <brainycmurf> Did this get tested yet? 17:38:09 <brainycmurf> Deferred to next week. 17:38:11 <brainycmurf> #topic Give ABRT some love 17:38:13 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/130 17:38:15 <brainycmurf> Deferred to next week. 17:38:19 <brainycmurf> #topic Announcements, Status Updates 17:38:21 <brainycmurf> KDE aKademy 2022: https://akademy.kde.org/2022 happend Neal was there 17:38:23 <brainycmurf> Talk about Appindicator Extension for GNOME a coming week 17:38:25 <brainycmurf> and appindicator spec https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-specs/-/issues/84 and talk about that more coming weeks 17:38:28 <brainycmurf> Neal wants to add existing appindicator extension if the spec does not get finalized soon 17:38:30 <brainycmurf> Michael thinks spec is in mostly OK state 17:38:32 <brainycmurf> #info The minutes from last week have been posted. 17:38:34 <brainycmurf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-10-05/workstation.2022-10-05-03.15.log.html 17:48:29 <brainycmurf> #endmeeting