16:01:19 <brainycmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2022-06-21)
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16:01:19 <brainycmurf> #meetingname workstation
16:01:19 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation'
16:01:19 <brainycmurf> #chair Allan
16:01:19 <zodbot> Current chairs: Allan brainycmurf
16:01:40 <brainycmurf> #info Present members: Allan, Jens, Matthias, Tomas, Michael, Neal
16:01:40 <brainycmurf> #info Guests: Zac, Jack
16:01:40 <brainycmurf> #info Regrets: Chris
16:01:40 <brainycmurf> #info Missing:
16:01:40 <brainycmurf> #info Secretary: Neal
16:01:41 <brainycmurf> #topic Fedora branded Slimbooks
16:01:43 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/317
16:01:45 <brainycmurf> Expectations for Slimbook
16:01:47 <brainycmurf> * hardware support - rolling window of Fedora versions
16:01:49 <brainycmurf> * 3rd party kernel modules required for what? See https://github.com/slimbook?tab=repositories . LED control, power control, touchpad control, etc. Ideally we'd help them to upstream them - they're relevant to other vendors. They're not required; they make the hardware work better.
16:01:55 <brainycmurf> * Neal suggests having a fedora-oem-repositories, that can be used by the 3rd party repos control. Michael and Matthias would prefer the modules to go upstream. "Hardware support should go in the OS." Tension here with the image being vanilla. This would make sense for user tools, not necessarily drivers.
16:01:59 <brainycmurf> * Neal: request that the Fedora secure boot key be installed.
16:02:01 <brainycmurf> * Recommend to enable secure boot if the device doesn't have NVIDIA.
16:02:03 <brainycmurf> * Would like models to be available to Fedora QA for testing.
16:02:05 <brainycmurf> How should we define "working" wrt hardware support? Would be nice to have some specifics to set expectations for users and distributors. Allan suggests asking QA about how to define this.
16:02:08 <brainycmurf> #topic Workstation community web page
16:02:10 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/319
16:02:12 <brainycmurf> Neal: chat, discourse, mailing list seem good. Other details, including the meeting detail should be dropped. IRC should be dropped.
16:02:15 <brainycmurf> Neal would prefer the workstation chat channel
16:02:17 <brainycmurf> Matthias doesn't have a problem with the meeting details
16:02:19 <brainycmurf> Tomas: doesn't like the link to the issue tracker
16:02:23 <brainycmurf> #topic Planning for Fedora 37/38
16:02:25 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/318
16:02:27 <brainycmurf> Deferred
16:02:29 <brainycmurf> #topic Howdy integration
16:02:31 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/272
16:02:33 <brainycmurf> Deferred
16:02:35 <brainycmurf> #topic Ship preininstalled apps as Flatpaks
16:02:37 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/269
16:02:39 <brainycmurf> Deferred
16:02:41 <brainycmurf> #topic Announcements, Status Updates
16:02:43 <brainycmurf> #info The minutes from last week have been posted.
16:02:45 <brainycmurf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-06-14/workstation.2022-06-14-19.45.log.html
16:02:48 <brainycmurf> The first set of changes are started to land for F37. FESCO approvals are happening.
16:02:52 <brainycmurf> #link https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/BerlinMiniGUADEC2022
16:02:54 <brainycmurf> Send your t-shirt requests to Allan if you want one -
16:02:56 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/347
16:02:58 <brainycmurf> Akademy is in October, in Barcelona. Neal will be there.
16:03:00 <brainycmurf> #endmeeting