20:52:10 <brainycmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2022-01-25)
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20:52:10 <brainycmurf> #meetingname workstation
20:52:10 <brainycmurf> #chair Allan
20:52:10 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation'
20:52:10 <zodbot> Current chairs: Allan brainycmurf
20:52:23 <brainycmurf> #info Present members: Owen, Neal, Allan, Jens, Tomas, Chris, Michael, Matthias
20:52:23 <brainycmurf> #info Present guests: Luna Jernberg(bittin), Felipe
20:52:23 <brainycmurf> #info Regrets:
20:52:23 <brainycmurf> #info Missing:
20:52:23 <brainycmurf> #info Secretary: Owen
20:52:24 <brainycmurf> #topic Improve the user feedback for OOM situations
20:52:26 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/202
20:52:28 <brainycmurf> #action Matthias to check with Benjamin Berg whether there is any progress he is aware of.
20:52:32 <brainycmurf> #topic Offline updates: install updates after the user triggers the shutdown/restart command, instead of installing them in the next boot
20:52:35 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/258
20:52:37 <brainycmurf> * From discussion on the ticket, it doesn't appear that the original idea of using 'systemd isolate' to get in a state where upgrades can be performed will work. Ideas on how to proceed welcome!
20:52:40 <brainycmurf> #topic Work on a new appindicator protocol
20:52:42 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/264
20:52:44 <brainycmurf> * Discussion moved to https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-specs/-/issues/84 - https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-specs/-/merge_requests/54  - lots of good discusion from all parties
20:52:47 <brainycmurf> * GNOME design community has started to explore options for how to integrate this officially (should status icons be in the overview rather than permanently in the hot bar?)
20:52:50 <brainycmurf> * WG wants to stay involved in making sure that the discussion comes to a concrete conclusion, implementation in GNOME shell, libappindicator using the new protocol
20:52:53 <brainycmurf> #topic Announcements, status updates
20:52:55 <brainycmurf> * Tomas reports on the new draft PRD - will try to work with others to finish up by this weekend. (https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/262)
20:52:58 <brainycmurf> * Neal reports that he has merged changes related to moving the rpmdb to /usr (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RelocateRPMToUsr)
20:53:03 <brainycmurf> * Allan: gnome-text-editor package in F35 is not fully useful, since it's a package of an old quasi-snapshot and doesn't reflect the current development status (which would require GNOME 42) - can see something closer to the current development with the Flathub nightly.
20:53:07 <brainycmurf> * Neal: main blocker for packaging gnome-console (King's Cross) is lack of an updated VTE, otherwise seems straightforward.
20:53:10 <brainycmurf> #info Devconf.CZ Online this weekend
20:53:12 <brainycmurf> #link https://www.devconf.info/cz/
20:53:14 <brainycmurf> #info FOSDEM Hybrid the week after
20:53:16 <brainycmurf> #link https://fosdem.org/2022/
20:53:18 <brainycmurf> #info The minutes from last week have been posted online.
20:53:20 <brainycmurf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-01-19/workstation.2022-01-19-06.36.log.html
20:54:14 <brainycmurf> #endmeeting