18:29:08 <brainycmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2021-11-02)
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18:29:08 <brainycmurf> #meetingname workstation
18:29:08 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation'
18:29:08 <brainycmurf> #chair: Neal
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18:29:19 <brainycmurf> #topic Rollcall
18:29:19 <brainycmurf> #info present: Neal, Matthias, Allan, Chris, Jens, Owen, Michael, Tomas, Kalev
18:29:19 <brainycmurf> #info regrets:
18:29:19 <brainycmurf> #info absent: Langdon
18:29:19 <brainycmurf> #info present guests: Zac
18:29:19 <brainycmurf> #topic Approval of October 26 minutes
18:29:21 <brainycmurf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2021-10-26-18.19.html
18:29:23 <brainycmurf> #info Didn't discuss - defer to future meeting
18:29:25 <brainycmurf> #topic Announcements, follow-ups, status reports
18:29:27 <brainycmurf> Allan has spoken to his contact at Canonical about the appindicator extension
18:29:29 <brainycmurf> Allan is continuing to look at docs issues
18:29:31 <brainycmurf> #info Conversations are happening about PRDs and how official editions are defined.
18:29:33 <brainycmurf> #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/what-should-the-prd-process-for-editions-look-like-going-forward/34107/
18:29:38 <brainycmurf> Neal has GNOME classic fixed in rawhide and other places
18:29:40 <brainycmurf> What is the status of #248 (gnome-text-editor)? gtksourceview5 is waiting on link for review.
18:29:42 <brainycmurf> #topic Fedora Linux 35 release
18:29:44 <brainycmurf> #link https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-35/
18:29:46 <brainycmurf> Post-release debrief:
18:29:48 <brainycmurf> - Good to have the "what's new" article ready in advance.
18:29:50 <brainycmurf> - Smooth release process from workstation point of view. Nothing down to the wire.
18:29:52 <brainycmurf> - 3rd party repos work was a struggle and happened late
18:29:54 <brainycmurf> #topic Improve driver installation experience
18:29:56 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/238
18:29:58 <brainycmurf> Do we want to prompt when there are missing drivers? Some distros do this. Otherwise users might not know they need to install something extra.
18:30:01 <brainycmurf> Matthias: has pursued better vaapi support in the past.
18:30:03 <brainycmurf> We could investigate a prompt to install the NVIDIA driver. Are there any other drivers that this feature would cover? Broadcom? But we can't install that one. Can't be redistributed.
18:30:08 <brainycmurf> Options for which module could be responsible for prompting or auto-installing the NVIDIA driver: gnome-software, gnome-initial-setup, fedora-3rd-party? Or something else silently in the background.
18:30:11 <brainycmurf> #info There's also the secure boot issue - https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/155
18:30:13 <brainycmurf> You need to be able to load local UEFI certificates into the kernel, so that the modules can be trusted. Usually need to have secure boot turned off to use the driver.
18:30:16 <brainycmurf> What to do?
18:30:18 <brainycmurf> Peter Jones is the obvious person to ask for advice.
18:30:20 <brainycmurf> Lenovo presumably are invested in making NVIDIA work out of the box, though it's unclear what they could do to improve the situation.
18:30:23 <brainycmurf> Jared and Richard have a relationship with hardware vendors - we can reach out them too.
18:30:25 <brainycmurf> #action Matthias to invite Peter to join a call, speak to Jared and Richard about joining too
18:30:27 <brainycmurf> #action Neal to set the milestone for this issue to F36
18:30:29 <brainycmurf> #topic Fedora Workstation release schedule / check list
18:30:31 <brainycmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/250
18:30:33 <brainycmurf> Options for what to do with the schedule: put it in a shared calendar? Pagure tickets for each item? Probably the former.
18:32:24 <brainycmurf> #endmeeting