01:48:41 <cmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2021-09-07) 01:48:41 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Sep 8 01:48:41 2021 UTC. 01:48:41 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 01:48:41 <zodbot> The chair is cmurf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:48:41 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:48:41 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation_wg_(2021-09-07)' 01:48:43 <cmurf> #meetingname workstation 01:48:43 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation' 01:48:45 <cmurf> #chair: Neal 01:48:45 <zodbot> Current chairs: : Neal cmurf 01:48:56 <cmurf> #topic Rollcall 01:48:58 <cmurf> #info present: mclasen, Chris, Owen, Tomas, Jens, Michael Catanzaro, Zac, James, 01:49:00 <cmurf> #info present guests: Luna Jernberg (bittin) 01:49:02 <cmurf> #topic Approval of August 31 minutes 01:49:04 <cmurf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021/fedora-meeting-2.2021-09-01-03.44.html 01:49:06 <cmurf> #agreed Approved 01:49:08 <cmurf> #topic Announcements, follow-ups, status reports 01:49:10 <cmurf> #info GNOME test day is being planned for Thursday 9 September. 01:49:12 <cmurf> Sadly, the gnome-initial-setup crash is still present in the nightlies. Requires selinux to be disabled (enforcing=0 should do it). 01:49:14 <cmurf> Tomas: open h264 is constantly crashing in F35. 01:49:16 <cmurf> Kalev: please test local builds. 01:49:18 <cmurf> #topic Non-building toolbox issues for F35 01:49:20 <cmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/243 01:49:22 <cmurf> The build system is on RHEL 7. In recent Fedora, glibc changes can no longer reach the network. The infra lead says they can't upgrade from RHEL 7. The issue is affecting multiple teams and there is potential workaround. Last update is from yesterday. 01:49:24 <cmurf> #agreed Let's wait and see what happens. 01:49:26 <cmurf> #topic Improve the user feedback for OOM situations 01:49:28 <cmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/202 01:49:30 <cmurf> The workstation ticket has a few suggestions but fizzled out a while back. However, upstream discussion has recently picked up with some talk on the systemd side. 01:49:32 <cmurf> Benjamin Berg (benzea) is probably the best person to lead this on the desktop side. 01:49:34 <cmurf> What we likely want as a minimal solution is a notification to explain that something was killed. There are further steps we could potentially want - a history of oom events in gnome-abrt, a hook into a system monitor to see what's using resources. 01:49:36 <cmurf> Allan: from a UX perspective, it would be good to at least have a longer description of what the event is and possible reasons it could have happened. 01:49:38 <cmurf> #agreed Wait and see how the upstream discussion pans out. 01:49:40 <cmurf> #topic Open Floor 01:49:42 <cmurf> #info i18n test week is happening 2021-03-09 to 2021-03-16 01:49:44 <cmurf> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2021-09-07_I18N_Test_Day 01:52:50 <cmurf> #endmeeting