17:01:54 <mboddu> #startmeeting RELENG (2018-06-28)
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17:01:54 <mboddu> #meetingname releng
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17:01:54 <mboddu> #chair nirik tyll sharkcz masta pbrobinson pingou puiterwijk maxamillion mboddu Kellin dustymabe
17:01:54 <mboddu> #topic init process
17:01:54 <zodbot> Current chairs: Kellin dustymabe masta maxamillion mboddu nirik pbrobinson pingou puiterwijk sharkcz tyll
17:02:05 <nirik> morning
17:02:25 <Kellin> morning nirik
17:05:18 <mboddu> Okay, lets get started
17:05:44 <mboddu> #topic #7589 Bug 1575762: Installation of F28 fails on systems using RAID
17:05:53 <mboddu> #link https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7589
17:06:10 <mboddu> So, we briefly discussed about this yesterday on releng channel
17:06:30 <mboddu> Should we take it to FESCo or just say its not doable?
17:06:55 <nirik> I haven't looked at the bug much yet... let me see. we may also want adamw's thoughts on it.
17:07:54 <nirik> we really don't redo media... so I would likely think more a common bug / make sure it's fixed in f29
17:08:21 <mboddu> Okay, let me ping adamw on the ticket
17:11:42 <mboddu> I asked adamw to join this meeting, so that we can get his final thoughts and close the ticket
17:12:00 <adamw> they're requesting an ISO respin?
17:12:48 <mboddu> Yes
17:13:16 <mboddu> adamw: <nirik> we really don't redo media... so I would likely think more a common bug / make sure it's fixed in f29 (few min back)
17:13:35 <adamw> yeah, we've not-respun for more serious things in the past, i don't see how this is a respin.
17:13:45 <adamw> it would be good to figure out a documentable workaround for common bugs, i guess.
17:13:55 <nirik> so it's seeing the raid + each disk in the raid as duplicates?
17:14:22 <nirik> it's not really clear to me the case here... I have several raid machines and have had no problems with f28. (but they were upgrades)
17:15:20 <nirik> ah, it's in vmware?
17:15:49 <nirik> [    2.358531] fedora-test3.local.nonet kernel: scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access     VMware,  VMware Virtual S 1.0  PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
17:16:41 <mboddu> nirik: huh
17:16:56 <mboddu> Seems like a special case
17:18:13 <mboddu> adamw: Now that its under your radar, I will close the ticket, thanks for joining
17:18:28 <mboddu> thanks nirik
17:18:32 <nirik> perhaps mark it common-bug to write up?
17:18:35 <adamw> nirik: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1575762#c12 seems intstructive
17:19:32 <nirik> yeah... wonder how long ago those older raid metadata would be from tho...
17:19:45 <nirik> and lvmetad comes up by default normally
17:22:01 <nirik> my raid is using 1.0 and I made it apparently 5 years ago.
17:25:02 <nirik> anyhow, yeah, document and move on. if they want to escalate it, they can take it to fesco
17:25:38 <mboddu> #info Closing the ticket as we generally wont respin the images and mark is as common-bug to document it.
17:25:42 <mboddu> nirik: Thanks
17:27:03 <mboddu> #topic #7553 Arch-Specific Runtime Dependencies in sub-packages
17:27:11 <mboddu> #link https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7553
17:27:40 <mboddu> So, we discussed this last time and we thought of asking koji team
17:28:21 <mboddu> Now that we got their response, what is the best thing to do here
17:32:03 <nirik> perhaps ask reporter if that answers the question and we can close, or if there's something further they wanted.
17:32:07 <mboddu> I prefer making the main and sub package arch specifc for now
17:32:45 <mboddu> So, that we dont have to remember to block certain things on certain arches
17:33:01 * nirik nods
17:33:26 <mboddu> Okay, I will ask the reporter in the ticket
17:36:41 <mboddu> #info mboddu will ask the reporter in the ticket if the proposals answers his question.
17:37:40 <mboddu> #topic #7445 [RFE][PATCH] make $releasever return "rawhide" on Rawhide
17:37:46 <mboddu> #link https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7445
17:39:55 <mboddu> Its been a long time we discussed about this
17:40:39 <nirik> might be worth bringing up on devel/qa lists...
17:42:02 <nirik> I guess I can try and write something up for that.
17:42:08 <mboddu> Okay
17:42:27 * mboddu is skeptical about changing repo files
17:42:40 <mboddu> That will definitely will break something somewhere
17:43:44 <nirik> well.. without changing things too much...
17:43:57 <nirik> we can count on mirrormanager to map rawhide to the right number.
17:44:15 <mboddu> I like that idea
17:44:25 <nirik> the only way we could do better I guess is to drop the 'rawhide' name... always use the number.
17:44:38 <nirik> but that also would be disruptive.
17:44:58 <mboddu> nirik: I think that might start a big war
17:45:03 <mboddu> :)
17:45:12 <nirik> not sure...
17:45:48 <nirik> I can write something up and we can get a nice long feedback from everyone. ;)
17:46:02 <mboddu> #info nirik will write up something and will take it to devel/qa lists
17:46:11 <mboddu> Thanks nirik
17:46:48 * mboddu got to run early, so I will take up the open floor and alt arch updates now
17:47:04 <mboddu> #info Alternate arch updates
17:47:15 <mboddu> sharkcz: If you are around, any updates?
17:47:33 <mboddu> nirik: Also, whats the status on moving s390 koji builders to primary koji
17:47:35 <mboddu> ?
17:47:52 <mboddu> Have you heard anything from the people who is working on it?
17:47:53 <nirik> the same as it has been. There's a ticket. No movement on it yet
17:47:55 <nirik> no
17:48:03 <mboddu> Okay
17:48:30 <mboddu> nirik: Is it sysops who has to work on it?
17:48:55 <nirik> it's one of the folks that admins that mainframe... not sure how many of them there are.
17:49:06 <mboddu> Okay
17:49:29 <mboddu> #info we are still waiting on moving s390 koji builders to primary koji
17:49:39 <mboddu> #topic Open Floor
17:50:10 <mboddu> I guess everyone submitted their talks for FLOCK
17:50:28 <nirik> yep. ;)
17:50:37 <nirik> oh, I had just a few quick things for open floor..
17:50:38 * mboddu is really interested in nirik's talk about compose failures/debugging
17:50:44 <mboddu> Sure
17:51:14 <nirik> * next monday/tuesday infrastructure is doing a mass update/reboot outage(s)... so we may want to not push updates those days to avoid problems.
17:52:14 <mboddu> Kellin: ^ FYI, as you are on push duty next week
17:52:39 * nirik tries to recall the other thing... what was it.
17:53:24 <nirik> I can't recall. Oh well, it will come to me.
17:53:52 <Kellin> mboddu: nod
17:54:09 <mboddu> nirik: You just have to search it in the pile of sticky notes that occupied your desk :P
17:54:24 <nirik> s/desk/brain/ :)
17:54:38 <mboddu> Hehe
17:55:10 <mboddu> #info nirik has one more update which is currently a suspense
17:55:27 <Kellin> SUSPENSE
17:55:37 <nirik> ha.
17:55:47 <nirik> I'll bug you all on #fedora-releng if I can think of it.
17:55:49 <mboddu> Hehe, anything else guys?
17:55:54 <mboddu> nirik: Sure
17:56:26 <mboddu> Okay, I have to go, thanks guys for joining
17:56:34 <mboddu> #endmeeting