17:00:15 <jkurik> #startmeeting F26 Alpha Go/No-Go meeting the 3rd round 17:00:16 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 30 17:00:15 2017 UTC. The chair is jkurik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:16 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:16 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'f26_alpha_go/no-go_meeting_the_3rd_round' 17:00:17 <jkurik> #meetingname F26-Alpha-Go-No-Go-meeting-3rd 17:00:17 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'f26-alpha-go-no-go-meeting-3rd' 17:00:25 <jkurik> #topic Roll Call 17:00:32 <jkurik> .hello jkurik 17:00:32 <roshi> .hello roshi 17:00:32 <zodbot> jkurik: jkurik 'Jan Kurik' <jkurik@redhat.com> 17:00:36 <zodbot> roshi: roshi 'Mike Ruckman' <mruckman@redhat.com> 17:00:39 <nirik> morning 17:00:43 <nirik> .hello kevin 17:00:44 <zodbot> nirik: kevin 'Kevin Fenzi' <kevin@scrye.com> 17:00:44 <jkurik> #chair dgilmore nirik adamw sgallagh roshi mboddu kellin 17:00:44 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw dgilmore jkurik kellin mboddu nirik roshi sgallagh 17:00:51 <coremodule> .hello coremodule 17:00:53 <zodbot> coremodule: coremodule 'Geoffrey Marr' <gmarr@redhat.com> 17:00:59 <jkurik> Hi everybody 17:01:03 <Kellin> .hello kellin 17:01:04 <zodbot> Kellin: kellin 'None' <kellin@retromud.org> 17:01:15 <mboddu_> .hello mohanboddu 17:01:16 <zodbot> mboddu_: mohanboddu 'Mohan Boddu' <mboddu@bhujji.com> 17:01:39 <jkurik> so, we have releng, fesco and qe people - lets start 17:01:45 <alcir> .hello alcir 17:01:50 <zodbot> alcir: alcir 'Alcir Azevedo dos Santos' <alazsan@gmail.com> 17:01:56 <jkurik> #topic Purpose of this meeting 17:01:57 <jkurik> #info Purpose of this meeting is to check whether or not F26 Alpha is ready for shipment, according to the release criteria. 17:02:09 <alcir> .hello alciregi 17:02:09 <jkurik> #info This is determined in a few ways: 17:02:10 <zodbot> alcir: alciregi 'Alessio Ciregia' <alciregi@gmail.com> 17:02:11 <jkurik> #info No remaining blocker bugs 17:02:12 <jkurik> #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/26/alpha/buglist 17:02:24 <jkurik> #info Release candidate compose is available 17:02:25 <jkurik> #link https://pagure.io/releng/issue/6701 17:02:26 <jkurik> #info Test matrices for Alpha are fully completed 17:02:28 <jkurik> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_26_Alpha_1.7_Summary 17:02:33 <jkurik> #topic Current status 17:02:44 <jkurik> #info F26 Alpha RC Compose 1.7 is available 17:02:45 <jkurik> #link http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/26_Alpha-1.7/ 17:02:47 <jkurik> #info We have 1 proposed and 2 accepted blockers for F26 Alpha. 17:03:05 <jkurik> Let's start with Mini-blocker review 17:03:06 <jkurik> Roshi, adamw: may I ask you please to chair the mini-blocker review ? 17:03:28 <roshi> I can, if adamw is ready to take over 17:03:37 * roshi is tethering in a car going 65mph 17:03:41 <roshi> so I might drop 17:03:58 <coremodule> I can help there. 17:04:02 <roshi> sounds good 17:04:06 <roshi> I'll get started though 17:04:11 <jkurik> thanks coremodule 17:04:13 <adamw> .hello adamwill 17:04:14 <jkurik> #topic Mini-Blocker Review 17:04:14 <zodbot> adamw: adamwill 'Adam Williamson' <awilliam@redhat.com> 17:04:15 <adamw> sorry, just dropped in 17:04:17 <adamw> i can do the blocker 17:04:24 <roshi> kk, thanks 17:04:25 <jkurik> #chair coremodule 17:04:25 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw coremodule dgilmore jkurik kellin mboddu nirik roshi sgallagh 17:04:45 <adamw> so we have exactly one proposed blocker 17:04:46 <adamw> #topic (1437299) 26 Alpha RC7 Server DVD has repoclosure errors 17:04:47 <adamw> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1437299 17:04:47 <adamw> #info Proposed Blocker, distribution, NEW 17:04:52 <jkurik> adamw: Hi and thanks 17:05:15 <dgilmore> hi all 17:05:44 <ignatenkobrain> this one is easyfix and I think it should be 1) automated 2) moved to beta or such 17:05:45 <jkurik> hi dgilmore 17:06:29 <ignatenkobrain> https://github.com/abrt/abrt/commit/c1ba26e086b5e9a26578e3d8c6d967f793766677 17:06:30 <nirik> well, or just used to gate rawhide/branched so it never happens again. ;) 17:06:33 <adamw> yeah, we really need to automate these tests, it's silly 17:06:35 <ignatenkobrain> it just needs this backport 17:06:40 <adamw> nirik: that too. 17:06:50 <dgilmore> https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/26/Fedora-26-20170329.1/logs/x86_64/repoclosure-Server.x86_64.log 17:06:56 <adamw> we already have an update that fixes this, but apart from not having time, it's kind of a big update to pull in at this point anyhow 17:07:05 <dgilmore> https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/26/Fedora-26-20170329.1/logs/x86_64/repoclosure-Workstation.x86_64.log 17:07:17 <dgilmore> adamw: there is other breakage in workstation 17:07:23 <adamw> dgilmore: the criterion is about the media, though, not the repos. 17:07:41 <dgilmore> adamw: for server it is the same 17:08:04 <adamw> so yeah, anyhow, i'd suggest we either just waive this on the basis of current dnf behaviour and lack of testing, or agree to change the criteria 17:08:11 <adamw> i really don't see a lot of justification for this criterion at alpha 17:08:25 * dgilmore is happy to waive 17:08:28 * roshi is +1 for waiving this and moving to Beta 17:08:30 <dgilmore> well not happy 17:08:38 <dgilmore> but given it will not break installs 17:08:40 <ignatenkobrain> python-ctypes issue is that it needs to be dropped (it's part of Python 2.5+) 17:08:40 * nirik nods. I don't think it's good to block on this at this point. 17:08:43 <ignatenkobrain> https://src.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/python2.git/commit/?id=df197a00e9a976f238f706b29a94efcb3b7bb751 17:08:58 <jkurik> +1 to waive 17:09:04 <dgilmore> ignatenkobrain: off topic 17:09:44 <adamw> btw, check out my current view: https://www.happyassassin.net/temp/2017-03-30-100842.jpg 17:10:01 <dgilmore> you suck 17:10:06 <coremodule> hahaha 17:10:16 <roshi> lol 17:10:28 <jkurik> wow, where are you adamw ? 17:10:42 <roshi> mt doom in winter 17:10:44 <Kellin> ugh all that snow =( 17:11:04 <adamw> jkurik: https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Roundhouse+Lodge/@50.0697423,-122.9488706,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x548723aacfa39a0f:0x6f8f3afe877ba3bf!8m2!3d50.0697423!4d-122.9466819 17:11:29 <adamw> alrighty, so 17:11:37 <jkurik> ah, Whistler - it is a nice area 17:11:39 <roshi> votes seem pretty clear 17:12:06 <adamw> proposed #agreed there's general agreement this criterion makes little sense, especially at Alpha, given current installer and dnf behaviour. We agree in principle it should be modified and/or moved later in the cycle, and that this bug doesn't need to block 26 Alpha. 17:12:20 <coremodule> ack 17:12:21 <jkurik> ack 17:12:31 <adamw> jkurik: incredible day, visibility from here is usually about five metres :P 17:12:45 <jkurik> so, you are lucky :) 17:13:29 <adamw> one more ack? 17:13:36 <adamw> hum 17:13:37 <adamw> actually 17:13:37 <adamw> patch 17:13:38 <dgilmore> ack 17:13:47 <jkurik> adamw: any sign of Sasquatch around ? 17:13:49 * dgilmore waits on adamw 17:14:10 <adamw> proposed #agreed 1437299 - RejectedBlocker (Alpha) - there's general agreement this criterion makes little sense, especially at Alpha, given current installer and dnf behaviour. We agree in principle it should be modified and/or moved later in the cycle, and that this bug doesn't need to block 26 Alpha. 17:14:21 <adamw> (just added the boilerplate) 17:14:23 <coremodule> Nice, ack 17:14:34 <jkurik> ack 17:14:42 <dgilmore> ack 17:14:54 <adamw> #agreed 1437299 - RejectedBlocker (Alpha) - there's general agreement this criterion makes little sense, especially at Alpha, given current installer and dnf behaviour. We agree in principle it should be modified and/or moved later in the cycle, and that this bug doesn't need to block 26 Alpha. 17:15:07 <adamw> there are two accepted blockers; they're both verified fixed in rc7. 17:15:23 <adamw> #info there are two accepted blockers; they're both verified fixed in rc7. 17:15:37 <jkurik> back to me ? 17:16:05 <adamw> that's all i got for blocker review, yeah 17:16:13 <jkurik> adamw: thanks 17:16:16 <jkurik> adamw++ 17:16:20 <jkurik> #topic Test Matrices coverage 17:16:22 <dgilmore> adamw: cheers 17:16:22 <jkurik> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_26_Alpha_1.7_Summary 17:16:45 <jkurik> lets check the coverage .... 17:16:48 <roshi> coverage looks pretty good IMO 17:16:54 * roshi got reception again 17:17:16 <nirik> rc7 looked ok here on macbook and cloud. 17:17:32 * dgilmore goes to file bug 17:17:47 <adamw> what's missing, iirc: the classic alpha in-joke, install to SAS 17:17:58 <adamw> (man, i remember the cycle where someone tested that and it was broken, how we laughed) 17:17:59 <jkurik> what about Active Directory testing ? 17:18:01 * roshi did ask about it 17:18:02 <adamw> and yeah, AD 17:18:11 <adamw> just didn't get to that 17:18:22 * roshi needs to set up AD here so I can test it too 17:18:27 <adamw> i was thinking about it last night and thought you know what, i'm going to bed 17:19:02 <coremodule> lol 17:19:16 <adamw> i don't think we need to hold alpha to get that test done. i'm gonna say either we get a better AD test setup in place this cycle or downgrade those requirements 17:19:18 <jkurik> I am fine to wave the AD testing; for alpha it is IMO acceptable risk 17:19:28 <adamw> (move it back to final or make it not blocking at all) 17:19:39 * roshi is fine with that 17:19:41 <adamw> sgallagh: you didn't happen to do any AD testing this cycle did you? 17:21:17 <jkurik> proposed #agreed The testing coverage looks pretty good. The missing Active Direstory testing has been waved as we decided not to block on this and we might consider to move this testing to Beta or Final stage. 17:21:47 <jkurik> ack/patch ? 17:21:57 <nirik> ack 17:21:59 <adamw> ack 17:22:08 <roshi> ack 17:22:13 <roshi> ck 17:22:22 <roshi> lag :) 17:22:32 <jkurik> one more ack please ? 17:22:44 <dgilmore> ack 17:22:45 <mboddu> ack 17:22:48 <jkurik> #agreed The testing coverage looks pretty good. The missing Active Direstory testing has been waved as we decided not to block on this and we might consider to move this testing to Beta or Final stage. 17:22:52 * adamw puts on suspicious fake mustache 17:22:53 <adamw> le ack 17:23:03 <jkurik> #topic Go/No-Go decision 17:23:08 <dgilmore> Go 17:23:11 <roshi> go 17:23:14 <jkurik> go 17:23:17 <coremodule> go 17:23:18 <mboddu> go 17:23:22 <dgilmore> nirik: what say you? 17:23:32 <nirik> go go gadget f26alpha 17:23:39 <dgilmore> I guess I can say go for FESCo and releng 17:23:53 <dgilmore> either, or or none 17:24:45 <adamw> go for qa 17:24:46 <jkurik> proposed #agreed The F26 Alpha RC Compose 1.7 is considered as GOLD and it is ready to be publicly available on 2017-Apr-04 as the fedora 26 alpha release. 17:24:53 <adamw> ss shipit! 17:24:55 <roshi> ack 17:24:58 <adamw> (that's an ack) 17:25:00 <dgilmore> ack 17:25:05 * roshi is ready to be done with Alpha 17:25:20 <jkurik> #agreed The F26 Alpha RC Compose 1.7 is considered as GOLD and it is ready to be publicly available on 2017-Apr-04 as the Fedora 26 Alpha release. 17:25:35 <nirik> hurray! 17:25:41 <mboddu> yay, no more composes :D 17:25:43 <jkurik> #topic Open floor 17:25:44 <adamw> thank pete for that 17:25:45 <jkurik> anything else to discuss today on this meeting ? 17:25:48 <nirik> mboddu: until beta. ; 17:25:50 * roshi has nothing 17:26:07 <dgilmore> mboddu: get back to fixing nightly composes :P 17:26:14 <adamw> today is crypto policy test day! 17:26:22 <adamw> which i totally whiffed on advertising, sorry 17:26:31 <adamw> but go on over to #fedora-test-day and see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2017-03-30_CryptoPolicies 17:27:04 <jkurik> #info today is crypto policy test day! Go on over to #fedora-test-day and see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2017-03-30_CryptoPolicies 17:27:41 <mboddu> dgilmore, nirik : haha, cant you let me enjoy for a min here guys ;) 17:28:02 * jkurik waits for 1 more minute before the end of the meeting 17:29:15 <jkurik> #endmeeting