22:58:23 <echevemaster> #startmeeting Fedora Latam Ambassadors 2017-01-28
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22:58:36 <echevemaster> #meetingname fedora-latam
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22:58:45 <echevemaster> #topic Roll Call
22:58:54 <echevemaster> #chair potty
22:58:54 <zodbot> Current chairs: echevemaster potty
22:58:57 <x3mboy> .hello x3mboy
22:58:58 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
22:59:00 <echevemaster> #chair itamarjp
22:59:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: echevemaster itamarjp potty
22:59:06 <echevemaster> .fas echevemaster
22:59:11 <zodbot> echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' <echevemaster@gmail.com>
22:59:20 <x3mboy> .fas x3mboy
22:59:21 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
22:59:21 * echevemaster Colombia-Venezuela
22:59:24 <athos> .hello athoscr
22:59:25 <zodbot> athos: athoscr 'Athos Ribeiro' <athoscribeiro@gmail.com>
22:59:42 <JuanCarsloLin> .hellomynameis lin
22:59:42 * athos from Brazil
22:59:42 <zodbot> JuanCarsloLin: lin 'Juan Carlos YJ Lin' <lin@unisoft.com.py>
22:59:49 * x3mboy Chile-Venezuela
23:00:01 <mribeirodantas> .fas mribeirodantas
23:00:02 <zodbot> mribeirodantas: mribeirodantas 'Marcel Ribeiro Dantas' <ribeirodantasdm@gmail.com>
23:00:04 <itamarjp> .hello itamarjp
23:00:05 <zodbot> itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' <itamar@ispbrasil.com.br>
23:00:10 * mribeirodantas Brasil
23:00:17 * itamarjp Brazil
23:00:21 <echevemaster> I'll wait for few minutes to start our first topic.
23:00:33 <x3mboy> (Y)
23:00:37 <landim> Brazil
23:01:00 * mayorga here.
23:01:06 <athos> !
23:01:08 <x3mboy> echevemaster, how are you mi pana???
23:01:09 * mayorga Nicaragua.
23:01:17 <echevemaster> Today we'll choose the next venue for Fudcon 2017
23:01:27 <echevemaster> x3mboy: buenisimo papa, y tu?
23:02:08 <x3mboy> echevemaster, fino, poniendo las cosas al fía. El año empezó difícil, pero ahí vamos
23:02:21 <fredlima> .fas fredlima
23:02:21 <zodbot> fredlima: fredlima 'Frederico Henrique Gonçalves Lima' <fred@fredericolima.com.br>
23:02:26 <lilixx> .fas lilixx
23:02:27 <zodbot> lilixx: lilixx 'Aura Lila Gutierrez Tejada' <lila2390@gmail.com>
23:02:30 * fredlima Brazil
23:02:35 <echevemaster> #topic Call for Bids for FUDCon LATAM 2017
23:02:43 <lilixx> *lilixx Nicaragua
23:02:58 <yulytas> yulytas here.
23:03:03 <echevemaster> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/370
23:03:07 <yulytas> .hello yulytas
23:03:08 <zodbot> yulytas: yulytas 'Julita Inca Chiroque' <yrazes@gmail.com>
23:03:41 <echevemaster> We have three bids today for choose, please read the next links and decide what will be the best venue for this Fudcon
23:03:54 <echevemaster> May the force be with you.
23:03:55 <juon> I need to bot "I'm here ?"
23:04:09 <echevemaster> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:LATAM_2017_Bid_Panama
23:04:18 <echevemaster> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Latinoware_2017
23:04:21 <athos> !
23:04:25 <echevemaster> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bogota_2017
23:04:30 <echevemaster> athos: go ahead
23:04:31 <mayorga> !
23:04:41 <echevemaster> athos: go ahead
23:05:25 <echevemaster> athos: ?
23:05:28 <echevemaster> mayorga: ?
23:05:30 <athos> I will help by counting votes
23:05:33 <echevemaster> go ahead mayorga
23:05:35 <athos> sry for the delay
23:05:40 <echevemaster> athos: perfect.
23:05:42 <athos> too many ppl here :)
23:05:45 <athos> EoM
23:05:55 <mayorga> I see the owner of the bid for Panama is not around. Maybe we could move to another topic and wait for him/them to come?
23:05:57 <AndroUser> . fas alexove
23:05:57 <zodbot> AndroUser: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' <alleinerwolf@gmail.com>
23:05:58 <echevemaster> please vote with +1, with the country of you election
23:06:22 <athos> I agree with mayorga :)
23:06:34 <echevemaster> ok.
23:06:37 <echevemaster> anyone else.
23:06:38 <echevemaster> ?
23:06:40 <alexove> !
23:06:42 <x3mboy> -1
23:06:46 <echevemaster> alexove: ?
23:06:48 <echevemaster> go ahead
23:06:51 <x3mboy> !
23:06:52 <mayorga> I think it's important to have them so that we can ask questions about the bids.
23:07:01 <echevemaster> x3mboy:
23:07:03 <alexove> Me parece que los BIDs son muy recientes
23:07:04 <athos> potty: ping
23:07:04 <zodbot> athos: Ping with data, please: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_naked_pings
23:07:10 <echevemaster> potty: are you there?
23:07:12 <athos> potty: non empty ping :)
23:07:28 <athos> lol, joke is on you, zodbot!
23:07:41 <x3mboy> The meetings are starting to being ignored
23:07:45 <alexove> Me refiero a los dos últimos y sugiero que se tomen una semana más para revisarlo y mejorarlo como se solía hacer en años anteriores
23:08:09 <x3mboy> Even a votation became a problem because of that
23:08:25 <athos> alexove: -1: We had MONTHS to prepare the bids...
23:08:32 <x3mboy> I think we need to mantain scheduled
23:08:37 <fnoel> Already started the meeting ?
23:08:52 <athos> it's better to give the extra weeks for the organizers to prepare things
23:08:54 <x3mboy> And if they aren't here, bad for them
23:09:06 <alexove> Este calendario no es a raja tabla
23:09:16 <echevemaster> ok, we are discussing trivial things, please read the bids.
23:09:20 <x3mboy> But the time is the same as always
23:09:31 <x3mboy> EoF
23:09:34 <alexove> Eof
23:09:51 <athos> alexove: we are actually late on the bids, as mayorga pointed out last year
23:09:52 <mayorga> alexove: What athos said. More than two months was enough IMNSHO.
23:10:06 <echevemaster> ok, please read the bids, and ask your questions
23:10:27 <mayorga> !
23:10:29 <athos> echevemaster: shouldn't we wait for potty?
23:10:34 <echevemaster> after that, please vote for your best choice.
23:10:38 <echevemaster> athos: sure.
23:10:51 <athos> I mean, before start voting :)
23:11:15 <echevemaster> we're waiting for potty, but please for God's sake. read the f... bid
23:11:27 <athos> I already did :)
23:11:32 <landim> sure
23:11:38 <fnoel> Panama's fudcon proposal is very complete
23:11:40 <landim> I'm reading
23:11:55 <alexove> Athos :no entiendo porque estamos tarde, aun estamos en enero :-)
23:12:24 <athos> alexove: rules, as mayorga said in his email last year
23:12:58 <alexove> No vi ese correo, eso me pasa por llegar tarde :-(
23:13:15 <potty> hi
23:13:27 <echevemaster> potty: o/
23:13:33 <yulytas> !
23:13:35 <mayorga> potty: o/
23:13:36 <potty> Still mobile
23:13:38 <echevemaster> itamarjp: are you there?
23:13:40 <fnoel> hi mayorga
23:13:43 <potty> Able to response inquiries
23:13:45 <echevemaster> yulytas: go ahead.
23:13:45 <itamarjp> yes,
23:14:01 <echevemaster> ok. please, the owners are here.
23:14:07 <echevemaster> so, ask your questions
23:14:19 <mayorga> I have a general question to all bid owners…
23:14:28 <echevemaster> mayorga: go ahead.
23:14:30 <athos> well, potty is here: I will start voting :) Although Panama and Bogota bids are way more complete than Brazil's bid, my vote goes for Brazil, because then FUDCon would happen in an event with more than 5000 people. It would be a great oportunity to market Fedora! :)
23:14:35 <athos> +1 Brazil
23:14:36 <yulytas> hi echevemaster and Fedora people, could you please consider also (maybe after the bid decision) my ticket that is waiting for you since 2 weeks ago?
23:14:57 <mayorga> What are going to be your potential sponsors? Have you talked to companies or universities discussing or asking for support for the event?
23:14:59 <echevemaster> athos: please wait for the voting
23:15:03 <potty> echevemaster: ticketing should be resolved
23:15:07 <bernardoha> hi
23:15:07 <athos> oh... I am sorry
23:15:17 <potty> mayorga: please review he bid I got info there
23:15:22 <echevemaster> yulytas: if there are time, yes.
23:15:32 <potty> Red Hat Centroamerica, Rootstack, ElConix and Solusoft so far
23:15:41 <echevemaster> potty: are you referring to Yulitas's ticket?
23:15:56 <potty> echevemaster: no
23:16:09 <alexove> Pasen los link de. Los BIDs por favor
23:16:10 <echevemaster> so, what are you referring? flights?
23:16:11 <potty> echevemaster: you should set agenda of meeting
23:16:23 <yulytas> my ticket was in the table 2 weeks ago, it is needed to vote please https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/373
23:16:27 <mayorga> potty: That's great!
23:16:31 <potty> echevemaster: i am answering mayorga
23:16:33 <yn1v> .fas yn1v
23:16:33 <zodbot> yn1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' <yn1v@taygon.com>
23:16:37 <mayorga> I see that information missing in other bids.
23:16:38 <athos> #link https://pagure.io/ambassadors-latam/tasks/issue/370
23:16:40 * yn1v Nicaragua
23:16:44 <echevemaster> ok potty.
23:16:53 <porfiriopaiz> .fas porfiriopaiz
23:16:54 <zodbot> porfiriopaiz: porfiriopaiz 'Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco' <porfiriopaiz@gmail.com>
23:17:00 * porfiriopaiz from Nicaragua
23:17:03 <Kohane> hola
23:17:07 <Kohane> .fas lailah
23:17:07 <zodbot> Kohane: lailah 'Sylvia Sánchez' <BHKohane@gmail.com>
23:17:07 <bernardoha> Hi, I'm going to analyze before voting
23:17:34 <mayorga> potty: Thanks.
23:17:38 <alexove> Yo también tengo un ticket :-)
23:17:47 <potty> I consider people should read and vote maybe on a pagure issue
23:18:02 <bernardoha> .fas bernardoha
23:18:03 <zodbot> bernardoha: bernardoha 'Bernardo C. Hermitaño Atencio' <bernardoha@gmail.com>
23:18:10 <athos> potty: +1
23:18:11 <echevemaster> people, please, today we'll vote for fudcon bids.
23:18:13 <potty> Set a deadline and count votes
23:18:35 <fnoel> I think that the proposal of Panama is great, to others it is a country that can fascifully solve travel vouchers, it is very feasible
23:18:36 <echevemaster> ok potty today is the deadline, and yes, I agree with put the votes on the ticket
23:18:50 <athos> potty: deadline could even be in 40 minutes, we have a lot of ppl here
23:19:01 <itamarjp> about the Bid of Brazil + Paraguay, We are going to have alot of audience, and We are going to share / use the infrastructure of Latinoware to save money,
23:19:10 <athos> I mean, after the meeting is over, echevemaster posts "voting is over" and that's it
23:19:13 <mayorga> itamarjp: Thanks.
23:19:31 <echevemaster> please.
23:19:49 <itamarjp> JuanCarsloLin are member of Fedora Paraguay
23:19:50 <JuanCarsloLin> I agree with Itamar...will get a lot of audience...
23:20:11 <itamarjp> and help us to find sponsors together with Silvio Palmieri,
23:20:25 <itamarjp> they are the event owners, more than me.
23:20:34 <potty> Ok
23:20:34 <potty> Lets vote here then
23:20:34 <potty> No problem
23:20:40 <mribeirodantas> I honestly think the idea behind Brazil and Paraguay's proposal is really amazing.
23:20:47 <potty> The idea
23:20:51 <potty> !
23:20:56 <echevemaster> potty: go ahead
23:21:18 <yn1v> o/
23:21:24 <mribeirodantas> A lot of potencial
23:21:27 <echevemaster> yn1v: go ahead.
23:21:41 <yn1v> potty?
23:21:49 <potty> I love the idea of having a Fedora event on Latinoware, we get a lot of presence
23:21:50 <potty> But
23:22:01 <potty> It might be good for a FAD
23:22:10 <potty> Ideal for a FAD
23:22:20 <potty> Not for the "premium" event of Fedora
23:22:36 <itamarjp> premium events are failing in audience, We are going to solve that,
23:22:45 <mayorga> I think potty has a point.
23:22:51 <potty> Even I would consider having FUDCon on Latinoware
23:22:59 <potty> Should be cheaper
23:23:16 <potty> Not even more expensive than previous years FUDCons
23:23:37 <echevemaster> itamarjp: I'd like Panama or Brazil, but also, I'd like not having a lot of talks but a job calendar.
23:23:41 <potty> But remember, I love the idea of having a Fedora event (not fudcon) on Latinoware
23:23:41 <itamarjp> Peruvian got a very good audience in their FUDCons, We are going todo the same.
23:23:42 <potty> EOF
23:23:50 <potty> panama too
23:23:55 <potty> peru too
23:23:58 <echevemaster> Thanks potty
23:23:58 <zodiacfireworks> Hi to all! :)
23:24:04 <potty> EOF
23:24:23 <yn1v> I would like to point to some discussion that has been done in the council mailing list
23:24:27 <yn1v> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-discuss@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/3JMQLKYGXVPNSHF7Y6VR3OMMBKEL3YI4/
23:24:28 <yulytas> from Peru we see Brazil as our master in tech
23:25:09 <yulytas> from my point of view as around me, so please count my vote +1 for Brazil
23:25:11 <potty> It should be a shame having Brazil with small
23:25:17 <potty> impact on the project
23:25:22 <yn1v> Basically having a Fudcon/Flock with another event has not work. Even in events that related like gnome-fedora or gnome-centos
23:25:27 <potty> They are the highest population in LATAM
23:25:35 <potty> Sorry yn1v
23:25:45 <echevemaster> yn1v: great link.
23:26:07 <echevemaster> ok, we'll vote here or on the ticket?
23:26:17 <itamarjp> potty, We are growing, We have famsco positions, and We are now bidding for FUDCon
23:26:22 <yn1v> So we should consider what our main sponsor think about hosting an event inside other event.
23:26:40 <yn1v> EOF
23:26:48 <echevemaster> thanks yn1v
23:26:55 <x3mboy> I think we should vote here
23:26:56 <itamarjp> +1 to Brazil is my vote,
23:27:15 <mribeirodantas> +1 Brasil
23:27:20 <JuanCarsloLin> +1 to Brasil
23:27:31 <fredlima> +1 to Brasil
23:27:45 <juon> +1 to Brasil
23:27:48 <JuanCarsloLin> We will have potential contributor in the 5k atendees
23:28:17 <athos> !
23:28:25 <yn1v> +1 Panama
23:28:39 <itamarjp> I am also would like to see a FUDCon in Colombia before repeating Panamá,
23:28:52 <x3mboy> +1 Colombia
23:29:17 <leyla20> hola?
23:29:23 <porfiriopaiz> +1 Panama, I think people attending to LatinoWare are people that are already contributing with some other Projects, also as a Sesivany pointed, Fedora events organized alongside other bigger events are not a good idea.
23:29:31 <potty> +1 Panama
23:29:32 <lilixx> +1 Panama
23:29:40 <fnoel> +1  to panama
23:29:42 <athos> yn1v: I talked to Brian about having it in fudcon, he loved the idea and pointed me to the thread you just posted. Great thread btw. As I see, if we do not start rethinking FUDCon, I am not sure what may happen to it
23:30:08 <leyla20> +1 brasil
23:30:23 <bernardoha> Was there fudcon in colombia in previous years?
23:30:34 <echevemaster> athos: how many votes for each country?
23:30:43 <yn1v> No matter where we host fudcon, we should have a serious workshop on strategic planning for the future of latam
23:30:48 <mayorga> +1 Panama
23:31:15 <zodiacfireworks> +1 Brazil
23:31:29 <athos> echevemaster: I am pasting everything and will set an fpaste in a few, I will do a partial for you now, just a sec
23:31:38 <echevemaster> athos: great
23:31:52 <itamarjp> fnoel, I think your vote was not clear,
23:31:56 <chinosoliard> hi!
23:31:57 <yn1v> bernardoha, no. There has not been a fudcon in colombia due lack of collaborators, now we have a very prominent collaborator there.
23:31:58 <chinosoliard> .fas chinosoliard
23:31:59 <zodbot> chinosoliard: asoliard 'Soliard, Adrian D.' <a.soliard@gmail.com>
23:32:07 * chinosoliard from Argentina
23:32:17 <mayorga> Panama did their homework for the bid. They have a strong organizing team and in terms of transport logistics they seem to have an advantage.
23:32:27 <fnoel> I voted for Panama
23:32:38 <fnoel> +1 to panama
23:32:47 <itamarjp> fnoel, ok,
23:32:52 <chinosoliard> how is it going? I'm sorry, I'm late!
23:33:10 <porfiriopaiz> fnoel voted twice, keep that in mind.
23:33:29 <bernardoha> Colombia is a good option for new collaborators
23:33:53 <athos> PARTIAL RESULTS: Brazil +9; Panama +7; Colombia +1
23:34:00 <landim> +1 Brazil
23:34:13 <wolnei2> +1 Brazil
23:34:25 <Richzendy> +1 colombia
23:34:31 <bernardoha> +1 Colombia
23:34:36 <athos> Note that I am counting williamjmorenor vote from the ticket. does anyone opose? itamarjp potty echevemaster
23:34:44 * chinosoliard looking for bids
23:34:52 <landim> PARTIAL: 11 Brazil ; 7 Panama; 3 Colombia
23:35:04 <itamarjp> athos, I opose
23:35:11 <alexove> +1 Brazil
23:35:33 <athos> itamarjp: can you justify it?
23:35:35 <echevemaster> from me, no problem athos, he is not a ambassador, but is a collaborator.
23:35:48 <landim> So, we have 12 or 11 for Brazil?
23:36:00 <itamarjp> athos, Brazil could have more votes, if voting on ticket was clearly approved.
23:36:01 <mayorga> echevemaster: williamjmorenor is an ambassador.
23:36:07 <mayorga> .fasinfo williamjmorenor
23:36:08 <zodbot> mayorga: User: williamjmorenor, Name: William Moreno, email: williamjmorenor@gmail.com, Creation: 2012-06-24, IRC Nick: williamjmorenor, Timezone: America/Managua, Locale: es, GPG key ID: , Status: active
23:36:11 <zodbot> mayorga: Approved Groups: +packager docs cla_fpca cla_done ambassadors designteam freemedia videos fedorabugs fudcon +fedora-ni
23:36:17 <echevemaster> mayorga: borralo, no sabia :)
23:36:23 <mayorga> On the other hand…
23:36:31 <mayorga> .fasinfo leyla20
23:36:32 <zodbot> mayorga: User: leyla20, Name: leyla caroline marcelo chavarria, email: leyla.caroline20@hotmail.com, Creation: 2017-01-14, IRC Nick: None, Timezone: UTC, Locale: C, GPG key ID: None, Status: active
23:36:33 <echevemaster> sorry william
23:36:35 <zodbot> mayorga: Approved Groups: cla_done cla_fpca
23:36:43 <athos> PARTIAL RESULTS: Brazil +12; Panama +7; Colombia +3
23:36:43 <echevemaster> mayorga: stop to do it.
23:36:50 <tatica> +1 colombia
23:36:56 <tatica> :)
23:37:04 <tatica> baby didn't let me run faster
23:37:08 <alyaj2a> .fas alyaj2a
23:37:09 <zodbot> alyaj2a: alyaj2a 'Aly Yuliza Machaca Mamani' <alyaj2a@gmail.com>
23:37:14 <tatica> .fas tatica
23:37:15 <zodbot> tatica: gusthwolf 'Gustavo Adolfo Soto Marquez' <staticage30@gmail.com> - tatica 'Maria Gracia Leandro Lombardo' <tatadbb@gmail.com>
23:37:24 * alyaj2a from Peru
23:37:26 <tatica> .hello tatica
23:37:27 <zodbot> tatica: tatica 'Maria Gracia Leandro Lombardo' <tatadbb@gmail.com>
23:37:34 <echevemaster> .tatica
23:37:34 <zodbot> I love tatica, you love tatica, WE ALL LOVE TATICA!
23:37:39 <athos> guys, remember not to leave after the votings, I will post an fpaste here an I want you to verify the counting and the votes
23:37:41 <renne> .hello renne
23:37:41 <echevemaster> hehehe
23:37:42 <zodbot> renne: renne 'Rene Lujano Laura' <rlujano13l@gmail.com>
23:38:09 <athos> .chair renne
23:38:09 <zodbot> renne is seated in a chair with a nice view of a placid lake, unsuspecting that another chair is about to be slammed into them.
23:38:18 <athos> lol, I love this one :)
23:38:18 <Richzendy> BTW, this votation can be done on a poll ?
23:38:22 <echevemaster> Anyone else wants vote?
23:38:26 * chinosoliard continue reading panama bid
23:38:27 <chinosoliard> o/ wait!
23:38:35 <echevemaster> ok chinosoliard
23:38:39 <athos> Richzendy: It is being done here, now.
23:38:47 <athos> :)
23:39:06 <athos> I agree with you, but let's not make echevemaster's night harder :)
23:39:18 <chinosoliard> echevemaster: can you please paste me the bid for bogota? I didn't find it
23:39:28 <echevemaster> athos: for me no problem... hehehe.
23:39:36 <yulytas> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bogota_2017
23:39:48 <echevemaster> here you go chinosoliard
23:39:55 <yulytas> chinosoliard there is it
23:39:55 <fnoel> Then the votes are closed ?
23:40:13 <athos> no fnoel. We are waiting for everybody to vote
23:40:13 <echevemaster> we're waiting for chinosoliard, after that I'll vote.
23:40:41 <athos> we need to check all the atendees and see if everybody voted :)
23:40:52 <athos> does zodbot have a command to see atendees?
23:40:54 <fnoel> ok
23:40:55 <yulytas> aly did it?
23:40:56 <chinosoliard> I have to resume Panama bid on-the-go
23:40:59 * athos goes check that!
23:41:44 <alyaj2a> Can i vote?
23:41:55 <yulytas> please alyaj2a
23:42:15 <Richzendy> the votes can be changed ?
23:42:17 <yulytas> I think you can do it :)
23:42:24 <athos> yea alyaj2a
23:42:30 <athos> yes Richzendy
23:42:41 <tonet666p> hi guys
23:42:42 <athos> .chairs
23:42:42 <Richzendy> athos, cool, thank you
23:42:45 <echevemaster> Richzendy: go ahead.
23:42:46 <fnoel> Travel tickets are much more feasible to get because Panama has a high demand for commerce, this can help many people to move to panama
23:42:47 <tonet666p> .fas tonet666p
23:42:48 <zodbot> tonet666p: tonet666p 'Tonet Pascualet Jallo Colquehuanca' <tonet666p@gmail.com>
23:42:49 <athos> #chairs
23:42:50 <chinosoliard> +1 for brazil. I think the idea to be at latinoware is really cool
23:42:53 * tonet666p from Perú
23:43:02 <alyaj2a> +1 Panama
23:43:15 <Richzendy> +1 panama (vote changed by colombia )
23:44:13 <tatica> +1 panama (vote changed by colombia)
23:44:51 <menina> +1 panama
23:44:56 <searchsam> +1 panama
23:44:59 <echevemaster> ok, please athos
23:45:06 <echevemaster> recount the votes.
23:45:12 <athos> ok PARTIALS: Brazil +13; Panama +12; Colombia +2
23:45:16 <tonet666p> i will be neutral
23:45:25 <porfiriopaiz> Wait wait wait... Why I'm seeing to many faces for just this critical moment? I mean, why they show up for regular meetings?
23:45:40 <searchsam> .fas searchsama +1 panama
23:45:42 <zodbot> searchsam: 'searchsama +1 panama' Not Found!
23:45:46 <chinosoliard> porfiriopaiz: +1, I'm seeing the same
23:45:47 <searchsam> .fas searchsama
23:45:47 <zodbot> searchsam: 'searchsama' Not Found!
23:45:51 <porfiriopaiz> *dont show up...
23:45:58 <searchsam> +1 panama
23:46:06 <mayorga> porfiriopaiz++
23:46:06 <zodbot> mayorga: Karma for porfiriopaiz changed to 2 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
23:46:07 <athos> ok PARTIALS: Brazil +13; Panama +12; Colombia +2; NULL +1
23:46:07 <itamarjp> .fas menina
23:46:09 <zodbot> itamarjp: menina 'Leticia Wood' <wood95@outlook.es>
23:46:13 <athos> ok searchsam
23:46:17 <athos> please stop spamming
23:46:19 <menina> +1 panama
23:46:20 <athos> we got it
23:46:25 <searchsam> ok
23:46:25 <athos> ok menina
23:46:28 <athos> same for you
23:46:30 <searchsam> i'm sorry
23:46:31 <athos> do not spam
23:46:41 <echevemaster> anyone else?
23:46:50 <chinosoliard> please, check that users are real. As porfiriopaiz said
23:47:05 <mayorga> Please.
23:47:11 <athos> chinosoliard++
23:47:11 <zodbot> athos: Karma for asoliard changed to 5 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
23:47:20 <athos> I am not only recording votes
23:47:25 <athos> I am recording nicknames
23:47:28 <x3mboy> +1 panama (changed from Colombia)
23:47:29 <athos> we can verify that :)
23:47:40 <echevemaster> Colombia has two votes, please to Colombia voters can you vote again
23:47:42 <mayorga> athos++ Thanks for that!!!
23:47:42 <zodbot> mayorga: Karma for athoscr changed to 9 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
23:47:49 <porfiriopaiz> athos++
23:48:04 <neydera> .fas neyder from Perú
23:48:05 <zodbot> neydera: 'neyder from Perú' Not Found!
23:48:11 <yose> .fas josereyesjdi
23:48:11 <zodbot> yose: josereyesjdi 'Jose A. Reyes H.' <josereyes.jdi@gmail.com>
23:48:26 <neydera> .fas neyder
23:48:27 <zodbot> neydera: neyder 'Neyder Achahuanco Apaza' <neyder@neyder.net>
23:48:42 * neydera from Perú
23:48:43 <athos> ok x3mboy; recorded
23:48:47 <yn1v> .fas searchsam
23:48:47 <zodbot> yn1v: searchsam 'Samuel José Gutiérrez Avilés' <search.sama@gmail.com>
23:48:50 <echevemaster> athos: votes?
23:48:53 <searchsam> .fas searchsam
23:48:54 <zodbot> searchsam: searchsam 'Samuel José Gutiérrez Avilés' <search.sama@gmail.com>
23:49:04 <athos> PARTIAL: brazil +13; panama +13; colombia +1; NULL =1
23:49:04 <echevemaster> please,
23:49:06 <searchsam> +1 panama
23:49:07 <porfiriopaiz> Please stop the flood.
23:49:14 <athos> searchsam: STOP SPAMMING PLEASE
23:49:23 <echevemaster> for who is that vote for colombia?
23:49:29 <echevemaster> please can you re-vote?
23:49:32 <yose> Panamá
23:49:47 <echevemaster> yose: ?
23:49:51 <yose> Panamá +1
23:49:52 <echevemaster> Panama what?
23:49:53 <athos> echevemaster: it is from bernardoha
23:49:54 <echevemaster> ok
23:50:01 <Richzendy> athos, that's flood, spaming is more like : Join to my site: http://dummysite.com
23:50:05 <neydera> Brazil +1
23:50:08 <echevemaster> bernardoha: can you please change your vote?
23:50:10 <bernardoha> +1 Brasil (vote changed by colombia)
23:50:16 <fnoel> This got good XD
23:50:21 <echevemaster> votes?
23:50:26 <echevemaster> athos:
23:50:27 <echevemaster> ?
23:51:04 <tonet666p> how are the results?
23:51:10 <athos> Brazil +14; Panama +14; Colombia +0; NULL +1
23:51:26 <yulytas> it seems that Tonet has the word
23:51:30 <athos> NOTE: I am counting willianmorenoj vote
23:51:31 <echevemaster> Anyone else?
23:51:32 <tonet666p> why colombia 0? Y_Y
23:51:33 <landim> did you count neydera vote?
23:51:36 <athos> itamarjp: oposes to that
23:51:45 <echevemaster> athos: what happens with william?
23:51:47 <athos> without his vote, we have +13 for panama
23:51:55 <athos> !
23:52:00 <echevemaster> go ahead
23:52:06 <athos> williammorenoj posted his vote on the ticket
23:52:10 <athos> and said he could not attend
23:52:14 <chinosoliard> I've the same question that echevemaster
23:52:16 <athos> but asked us to count his vote
23:52:30 <chinosoliard> but this is not the way :-/
23:52:31 <echevemaster> he put its vote there
23:52:36 <athos> I asked if anyone opposed to that; itamarjp opposes
23:52:36 <echevemaster> he is ambassador
23:52:39 <echevemaster> he voted
23:52:44 <itamarjp> here ?
23:52:47 <echevemaster> so, I agree with that.
23:52:47 <potty> echevemaster: yose is josereyesjdi
23:52:51 <neydera> Why I'm not allowed at all
23:52:59 <athos> neydera: you are
23:53:03 <echevemaster> yes you itamarjp, you opposed
23:53:12 <echevemaster> I'm noy
23:53:22 <athos> neydera: you can vote, if you are a real person ;)
23:53:24 <tonet666p> panamas bid is so detailed, but i think this city is a little bit expensive
23:53:48 <echevemaster> tonet666p: did you vote?
23:53:49 <neydera> Athos I do, most of the time
23:53:58 <chinosoliard> I'm sorry to think that, but, It's the first time I see that a vote is done in the ticket and not in the meeting. I think that this is not good
23:54:02 <echevemaster> neydera: please vote
23:54:03 <athos> echevemaster: tonet666p is the NULL vote
23:54:25 <echevemaster> tonet666p: please don't vote not null
23:54:26 <neydera> Echevemaster I did
23:54:27 <echevemaster> that is not a vote
23:54:30 <echevemaster> please do
23:54:34 <Richzendy> tonet666p, is not too mucho expensive, is standart
23:54:37 <tonet666p> ok, echevemaster you have the reason
23:54:41 <tonet666p> i'm thinking
23:54:45 <Richzendy> tonet666p, is not too much expensive, is standart
23:54:47 <mayorga> So in five minutes we'll have whole an hour of meeting…
23:54:48 <alyaj2a> Tonet vota
23:54:53 <echevemaster> ok
23:55:06 <echevemaster> we'll finish the meeting in ten minutes
23:55:10 <Richzendy> tonet666p, maybe 10$USD by day in food
23:55:34 <echevemaster> tonet666p: ?
23:55:38 <x3mboy> Which votes are missing???
23:55:41 <yulytas> could you please do not forget my ticket that is on the table for more than 2 weeks echevemaster:
23:56:04 <echevemaster> yulytas: will be three weeks, because the meeting is ending.
23:56:14 <athos> neydera: I do not have your vote here
23:56:29 <echevemaster> tonet666p: please vote
23:56:29 <x3mboy> tonet666p, neydera, please vote
23:56:36 <neydera> .fas neyder
23:56:36 <zodbot> neydera: neyder 'Neyder Achahuanco Apaza' <neyder@neyder.net>
23:56:40 <echevemaster> we don't have enough time.
23:56:46 <yulytas> we can vote here in one minute, since it was evaluated before for many ambassadors please echevemaster:
23:56:48 <porfiriopaiz> This is a miracle, Oberonlkf and blanquita in tha house!
23:56:52 <neydera> Brazil +1
23:56:53 <x3mboy> +/-1 Country
23:57:01 <blanquita> .fas Blanquita
23:57:02 <zodbot> blanquita: blanquita 'Blanca Ayala' <ayala.luquez@gmail.com>
23:57:06 <neydera> +1 brazil
23:57:11 <blanquita> +1 Panama
23:57:18 <Oberonlkf> Panamá +1
23:57:24 <tonet666p> i'm between the sword and the wall
23:57:41 <echevemaster> tonet666p: no matters, please vote, fuck...
23:57:43 <mayorga> It's so sad that so many people show up only when we have "FUDCon" in the agenda…
23:57:43 <chinosoliard> entre la esgrima y la albañilería
23:57:51 <renne> +1 Brazil
23:57:54 <potty> mayorga: THANK YOU
23:57:55 <chinosoliard> mayorga: yeah!
23:57:59 <athos> echevemaster: please, do not end the meeting: I will post a paste and I want ppl to verify the votes
23:58:13 <mayorga> But they do not give a shit about the meeting and do not attend on a regular basis.
23:58:14 <athos> search for duplicates, etc
23:58:17 <potty> Regardless the result this is sort of disappointing
23:58:22 <porfiriopaiz> mayorga++
23:58:22 <zodbot> porfiriopaiz: Karma for mayorga changed to 5 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
23:58:34 <porfiriopaiz> mayorga:
23:58:40 <athos> why, potty?
23:58:41 <yose> Thnks Mayorga
23:58:43 <porfiriopaiz> THANK YOU!
23:58:43 <Oberonlkf> Fas LKF Panamá +1
23:58:49 <athos> oh, I see
23:58:53 <athos> mayorga++
23:58:58 <athos> Oberonlkf: ok, no spam
23:59:13 <echevemaster> athos: vote?
23:59:18 <echevemaster> please put here
23:59:29 <itamarjp> votes from unauthenticated users count ?
23:59:41 <athos> Brazil +16; Panama +16; NULL +1 - We are counting wmorenoj vote here
23:59:53 <wmoreno> .fas williamjmorenor
23:59:53 <zodbot> wmoreno: williamjmorenor 'William Moreno' <williamjmorenor@gmail.com>
23:59:57 <wmoreno> Panamá
23:59:59 <athos> good
00:00:00 <echevemaster> wmoreno: please put your vote here
00:00:13 <wmoreno> you can read mi comment in the ticket
00:00:20 <athos> Brazil +16; Panama +16; NULL +1 - now it's 100% legit
00:00:23 <tonet666p> itamarjp, you will hate me
00:00:27 <tonet666p> panama +1
00:00:30 <Richzendy> on my honest opinnion, i think this votation can be better on a fedora election system, can't be duplicates because all people must to use the fas account and all people can make the vote whitout presion
00:00:34 <athos> ok
00:00:43 <echevemaster> I'll vote and close this meeting
00:00:45 <itamarjp> Richzendy +1
00:00:53 <echevemaster> we are ready?
00:00:54 <athos> Brazil +16; Panama +17
00:00:54 <wmoreno> +1
00:00:58 <porfiriopaiz> Richzendy++
00:00:58 <zodbot> porfiriopaiz: Karma for richzendy changed to 2 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
00:01:00 <athos> echevemaster: you decide now :)
00:01:20 <athos> shall we go to panama, or delay the voting?
00:01:23 <echevemaster> my vote will be for ....
00:01:27 <yulytas> we can do a better system to vote and not take more than an hour
00:01:40 <echevemaster> yulytas: I agree, but not this time
00:01:40 <zodiacfireworks> Richzendy: Yeah, that's will be a better way to do this voting
00:01:41 <Richzendy> yulytas++
00:01:41 <zodbot> Richzendy: Karma for yulytas changed to 1 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
00:02:01 <neydera> 😔
00:02:12 <athos> yulytas: welcome to democracy :) the best thing to do would be to do it in tickets as potty said, for a whole week
00:02:26 <athos> so, more time = better, not worse
00:02:27 <yulytas> yes, I agree athos
00:02:54 <athos> echevemaster: vote? :)
00:02:57 <Richzendy> just to consider my opinion to a next fudcon bid election
00:03:40 <athos> guys, please, remember not to leave after voting: I will post the results online and I do want you to verify if your vote was counting and help verifying my count
00:03:41 <AldoRaine> I'm here
00:03:48 <AldoRaine> from Brazil
00:03:50 <athos> AldoRaine: vote?
00:04:02 <yn1v> I agree with Richzendy ... fedora election infra could handle this, and would make sure that people have fas without the spam/flood
00:04:20 <wmoreno> your fas AldoRaine?
00:04:22 <ivan_> +1 Brazil
00:04:34 <chinosoliard> yes! potty is right, And doing that is more secure. I can connect with another client with any nickname and do a any .fas
00:04:39 <AldoRaine> +1 Brazil
00:04:46 <yulytas> hello .AldoRaine
00:04:48 <wmoreno> you fas ivan_
00:04:54 <echevemaster> athos: votes?
00:05:07 <athos> +18 Brazil; + 17 Panama
00:05:25 <wmoreno> ivan_ AldoRaine do not give theirs fas
00:05:39 <echevemaster> I'm here?
00:05:39 <AldoRaine> my FAS is greysonsilva
00:05:41 <wmoreno> do not count those votes
00:05:46 <athos> yes echevemaster
00:05:53 <athos> vote and close votings please
00:05:55 <echevemaster> ok, votes
00:06:00 <wmoreno> .fasinfo verosímiles
00:06:01 <zodbot> wmoreno: User "verosímiles" doesn't exist
00:06:06 <wmoreno> sorry
00:06:08 <echevemaster> how many votes are?
00:06:12 <mayorga> Let's wrap up. It's been more than one hour.
00:06:15 <Richzendy> esto como que se va a decidir en penales
00:06:19 <athos> else more ppl will keep joining and voting and we will never leave;
00:06:22 <wmoreno> .fasinfo greysonsilva
00:06:23 <zodbot> wmoreno: User: greysonsilva, Name: Greyson Farias da Silva, email: greysonsilva@gmail.com, Creation: 2016-07-11, IRC Nick: AldoRaine, Timezone: America/Rio_Branco, Locale: pt_BR, GPG key ID: D4E5139A, Status: active
00:06:26 <echevemaster> ok
00:06:26 <zodbot> wmoreno: Unapproved Groups: cvsredhat-config-language videos
00:06:26 <athos> we are + 18 brazil + 17 panama
00:06:29 <zodbot> wmoreno: Approved Groups: cvsl10n fedora-br cla_done cla_fpca
00:06:38 <athos> and we still need to verify votes and FAS accounts
00:06:40 <echevemaster> ok, my vote is for Panama
00:06:52 <rigobersol> .fas rigobersol
00:06:53 <athos> can you close voting?
00:06:53 <zodbot> rigobersol: rigobersol 'Rigoberto Condori Chañi' <enadeir@hotmail.es>
00:07:00 <echevemaster> so this will be decided via ticket
00:07:01 * rigobersol from Peru
00:07:04 <echevemaster> or the nest week
00:07:12 <echevemaster> the voting is closed
00:07:17 <athos> thanks
00:07:17 <mayorga> !
00:07:22 <yulytas> !
00:07:24 <echevemaster> please athos put the fas on the tickets
00:07:24 <wmoreno> +1 next week
00:07:35 <echevemaster> and we will decide the next week
00:07:36 <rigobersol> brasil +1
00:07:38 <echevemaster> mayorga: go ahead
00:07:39 <mayorga> I just have one last word.
00:07:49 <athos> we are 18, 18
00:07:55 <ivan_> My fas is ivanaugustobd
00:07:58 <athos> does rigobersol vote counts?
00:08:12 <mayorga> If people do not have the time to work on a bid in two months, I doubt they will cope with organizing such a big conference.
00:08:14 <mayorga> EOF
00:08:20 <echevemaster> I did it, because all the people are discussing, here, Why fucking not talk before, if you dont lilke the election way
00:08:22 <itamarjp> Can we have a new voting on fas voting app in case of empate ?
00:08:34 <tonet666p> ohhhhhh
00:08:41 <echevemaster> we have a empate
00:08:55 <athos> echevemaster: does rigobersol vote count?
00:09:03 <athos> if it does, brazil wins
00:09:04 <itamarjp> Do We have an agreement about that ?
00:09:04 <neydera> It's a draw
00:09:11 <athos> I believe it does not count
00:09:13 <itamarjp> athos did you counted the mribeirodantas vote ?
00:09:14 <athos> cause voting was closed
00:09:15 <Richzendy> itamarjp, of course
00:09:16 <echevemaster> so, the people didn't vote will decide on the ticket.
00:09:25 <athos> yes itamarjp
00:09:32 <yulytas> but we are here
00:09:48 <echevemaster> yulytas: the voting is closed.
00:09:52 <echevemaster> thanks all.
00:10:04 <itamarjp> lets have a new election in the voting application.
00:10:14 <yulytas> ok echevemaster I will wait for my ticket next week, thanks for your help
00:10:15 <athos> we can do that in the ticket, itamarjp
00:10:23 <athos> I think it's the best to do
00:10:32 <itamarjp> ok,
00:10:34 <athos> no?
00:10:38 <yulytas> ok
00:10:40 <athos> then we can discuss
00:10:41 <echevemaster> People here appears today
00:10:47 <itamarjp> voting app is more professional
00:10:49 <echevemaster> that is a shit please.
00:10:59 <echevemaster> please dont do that anymore.
00:11:08 <echevemaster> that is not a good way to do the things.
00:11:27 <porfiriopaiz> Please,let's ask to infra for setting a poll for solving this, same as they did for the recent election.
00:11:28 <echevemaster> so, there are collaborators that doesnt attend today
00:11:29 <athos> #link http://paste.fedoraproject.org/539120/48564867/
00:11:35 <yulytas> ok, good bye guys
00:11:36 <athos> these are the voting results
00:11:43 <athos> please, double check
00:12:10 <yulytas> thanks athos, god job
00:12:12 <athos> it was all done manually. I am a human and I make mistakes
00:12:15 <yulytas> *good
00:12:31 <yose> Thnks athos
00:12:44 <x3mboy> ;)
00:12:50 <fredlima> athos++
00:12:51 <echevemaster> good athos. I'll close the meeting
00:12:56 <echevemaster> thanks all
00:12:56 <x3mboy> athos++
00:12:59 <zodbot> x3mboy: Karma for athoscr changed to 10 (for the f25 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
00:13:00 <echevemaster> #endmeeting