23:00:36 <athos> #startmeeting Fedora Ambassadors Latam meeting 2016-08-27
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23:00:37 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_ambassadors_latam_meeting_2016-08-27'
23:00:52 <athos> #meetingname fedora-latam
23:00:52 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-latam'
23:01:06 <athos> #topic Roll Call
23:01:14 <athos> .hello ribeiro
23:01:15 <zodbot> athos: ribeiro 'Athos Ribeiro' <athoscribeiro@gmail.com>
23:01:19 <fredlima> .fas fredlima
23:01:21 <zodbot> fredlima: fredlima 'Frederico Henrique Gonçalves Lima' <fred@fredericolima.com.br>
23:01:21 * athos Brazil
23:01:24 <yosef7> .fas josereyesjdi
23:01:25 <zodbot> yosef7: josereyesjdi 'Jose Reyes' <josereyes.jdi@gmail.com>
23:01:26 * fredlima Brazil
23:01:38 <alexove> .fas alexove
23:01:39 <zodbot> alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' <alleinerwolf@gmail.com>
23:01:41 * alexove alexove
23:01:46 <em3rson> .fas em3rson
23:01:47 <zodbot> em3rson: em3rson 'Emerson Santos' <em3rson@linuxmail.org>
23:01:47 * alexove = Peru
23:01:50 * em3rson Brazil
23:02:00 <itamarjp> .fas itamarjp
23:02:01 <zodbot> itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' <itamar@ispbrasil.com.br>
23:02:04 * itamarjp Brazil
23:02:34 <xmrbrz> .fas xmrbrz
23:02:35 <zodbot> xmrbrz: xmrbrz 'Bruno Roberto Zanuzzo' <brunorobertozanuzzo@gmail.com>
23:02:36 * xmrbrz Brazil
23:03:04 <athos> Let's wait 2 minutes for roll call, since it would be nice to have potty or neville here for the swag topic, ok? :)
23:03:35 <itamarjp> for me is ok
23:03:42 <fredlima> k
23:03:42 <em3rson> ok
23:05:03 <chinosoliard> hi everyone
23:05:09 <wolnei> .fas wolnei
23:05:10 <zodbot> wolnei: wolnei 'Wolnei Cândido Tomazelli Junior' <e@wolnei.com.br>
23:05:12 <chinosoliard> .fas chinosoliard
23:05:13 <zodbot> chinosoliard: asoliard 'Soliard, Adrian D.' <a.soliard@gmail.com>
23:05:14 <athos> ok
23:05:16 <wolnei> Brazil
23:05:18 <athos> #topic Swags for Fedora Latam
23:05:19 * chinosoliard Argentina
23:05:29 <athos> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/359
23:05:46 <athos> alexove: Where are we, in this matter?
23:06:01 <alexove> hello world
23:06:17 <athos> As I see, potty and neville are not here today, and we needed neville's input on the credit card limit before aproving this, right?
23:06:34 <alexove> In the last meeting we decided to review the wiki page looking for quantity and items
23:06:41 <athos> also, chinosoliard pointed out that we might remove the usb sticks from the list because they are a bit expensive
23:06:49 <alexove> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Swag_LATAM_FY17
23:07:11 <chinosoliard> athos, and I need to change the quantities
23:07:27 <alexove> !
23:07:33 <athos> aren't we past the deadline for that chinosoliard?
23:07:57 <chinosoliard> itamarjp, mail reminding meeting comes to me 10 minutes before meeting :-/
23:07:57 <alexove> !
23:08:22 <athos> go on alexove
23:08:26 <chinosoliard> athos, I think that yes
23:08:42 <alexove> people, please wait for my EOF
23:09:02 <alexove> As I was saying
23:09:07 <itamarjp> chinosoliard. 60 minutes in advance in email, 10 minutes notification
23:09:34 <alexove> we decided to review the wiki page looking for quantity and items to be produced
23:09:39 <kovalevsky> .fas sophiekovalevsky
23:09:40 <zodbot> kovalevsky: sophiekovalevsky 'Kiara Navarro' <kiarakovalevsky@gmail.com>
23:09:42 <kovalevsky> Panama.
23:10:06 <alexove> the question is: Are you already reviewed the wiki page?
23:10:42 <alexove> EOF
23:10:48 <athos> ok
23:10:57 <yosef7> Veo que aun Nicaragua no ha agregado informacion en la wiki para los swags
23:11:15 <athos> alexove, as I mentioned before, if I remember correctly, we had a deadline for adding data to that list
23:11:46 <athos> and if I remember correctly that deadline was august 8th! we did open one exception for someone, but that was it
23:12:16 <athos> we cannot vote that if the quantities keep changing
23:13:01 <itamarjp> athos, wolnei, I have asked 100 t-shirts for Brazil, this means that you bring 33, and wolnei 33, and me 33 to Brazil
23:13:11 <alexove> you are right Athos
23:13:13 <athos> since neville did not give his input on the matter as far as we (the ones in the meeting) know, we will probably not vote that today, right?
23:13:32 <alexove> athos: +1
23:13:41 <itamarjp> athos, wolnei, are you ok with these numbers or we have to reduce it a little bit ?
23:13:43 <wolnei> +1
23:13:46 <athos> so, should we open the list for input for one more day? can we vote on that? chinosoliard wants to add something in there
23:13:58 <athos> i am ok with it itamarjp, thanks :)
23:13:59 <wolnei> Reduce itamar
23:14:22 <itamarjp> wolnei, tell a number, 20 is ok ?
23:14:31 <wolnei> Yes
23:15:02 <athos> we can only change numbers if everybody agrees on opening the deadline until tomorrow or monday... because then we would have to review it again... right alexove, itamarjp, chinosoliard?
23:15:21 <athos> note that we are 20 days PAST the original deadline
23:15:35 <yulytas> Hi, can I ask for 25 tshirts? I will have three more events around Peru
23:15:46 <athos> guys, focus.
23:15:47 <alexove> We can do it until wednesday
23:16:21 <itamarjp> athos, I would like to reduce the number of t-shirts for Brazil to 60, because of alfandega  / import duties in Brazil,
23:16:29 <athos> so, let's vote it: Shall we postpone the deadline for requesting swag until monday?
23:16:41 <yulytas> +1
23:16:47 <yosef7> +1
23:17:15 <athos> I am sorry, thats until wednesday
23:17:23 <chinosoliard> +1, changing deadline. And I'll change numbers after meeting
23:17:23 <alexove> let's do something, We can update the wiki page with more items and price per unit to do final review until friday.
23:17:26 <athos> note that after that, we shall NOT add nor remove stuff anymore
23:17:48 <athos> we only have 2 +1's, anyone else?
23:17:50 <chinosoliard> alexove, what about usb sticks?
23:18:08 <chinosoliard> athos, I voted +1 too
23:18:16 <alexove> While we can invite to yn1v or potty to next meeting
23:18:37 <athos> I agree
23:18:40 <potty> Sup
23:18:41 <yulytas> ok
23:18:42 <athos> I am +1 as well
23:18:48 <athos> #chair potty
23:18:48 <zodbot> Current chairs: athos potty
23:19:02 <alexove> yulytas we ask 100 t-shirts for all events in Peru
23:19:29 <athos> itamarjp: potty and others, are we a +1 on this then?
23:19:41 <potty> On what athos?
23:19:42 <yulytas> I just need for the events in Ica, UCH and UPICH
23:19:58 <em3rson> athos, +1
23:20:07 <yulytas> maybe 30, I hope you can send me as well as DVD Fedora 24 and stickers :) that makes people Happier ñ.ñ
23:20:13 <athos> we postpone deadline to change requests for swags until wednesday, everybody reviews until friday and we vote it on saturday, after nevilles input on CC limits
23:20:17 <athos> potty: ^
23:20:36 <athos> guys, PLEASE, use ! to talk, there's too much noise here :)
23:20:48 <yulytas> and it is possible to have an event in Lima, at UNI. I do not have still the authorization but I am working on it
23:20:51 <alexove> athos: +1
23:20:53 <potty> +1
23:21:00 <potty> Not a problem
23:21:07 <chinosoliard> <yulytas> I just need for the events in Ica, UCH and UPICH <- We can just give t-shirts as a present, we need to get people involved
23:21:17 <potty> I suggest a limit of 3K, similar as Neville RH credit card
23:21:28 <potty> On the total to pay
23:21:30 <chinosoliard> what about chile?
23:21:33 <athos> #agreed Postpone deadline to change requests for swag until monday.
23:21:40 <chinosoliard> we need to send a reminder to the list
23:21:41 <yulytas> ok
23:21:46 <x3mboy> .fas x3mboy
23:21:47 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
23:21:52 <x3mboy> Hello people
23:21:52 <alexove> athos: monday?
23:21:56 <athos> #action ambassadors shall review the swags list and prices until friday, before the next meeting
23:22:12 <athos> #undo
23:22:12 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by athos at 23:21:56 : ambassadors shall review the swags list and prices until friday, before the next meeting
23:22:15 <athos> #undo
23:22:15 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: AGREED by athos at 23:21:33 : Postpone deadline to change requests for swag until monday.
23:22:25 <athos> #agreed Postpone deadline to change requests for swag until Wednesday
23:22:40 <athos> #action ambassadors shall review the swags list and prices until friday, before the next meeting
23:22:44 <athos> ok :)
23:23:05 <athos> any other topics to discuss or shall we move to Open Floor?
23:23:30 <athos> oh
23:24:02 <athos> #action Invite Neville to attend the next meeting - We need input on the credit card limits to actually buy the swags
23:24:20 <athos> so, shall we move to Open Floor?
23:24:52 <chinosoliard> for me, yes... there's no more to talk in agenda
23:24:56 <athos> #topic OpenFloor
23:25:05 <bernardoha> .fas bernardoha
23:25:06 <zodbot> bernardoha: bernardoha 'Bernardo C. Hermitaño Atencio' <bernardoha@gmail.com>
23:25:21 <athos> so, as you started talking about the agenda, I have a request to make:
23:25:57 <athos> After your tickets had been discussed on a meeting, please, remove the meeting tag from it on TRAC so we have a consistent meeting agenda in there
23:26:12 <athos> :)
23:26:33 <chinosoliard> ok, athos. Good point
23:27:07 <athos> anyone else have any input or want to talk about anything?
23:27:22 <alexove> !
23:27:25 <athos> go on alexove
23:27:39 <alexove> about FUDCon, I wrote many emails to jzb and he will purchase the flight tickets from this monday
23:27:58 <alexove> please update your personal information in shared spreadsheet
23:28:22 <alexove> like flight dates, reimbursements etc
23:28:26 <alexove> EOF
23:28:28 <athos> awesome! here, have a cookie! alexove++
23:28:28 <zodbot> athos: Karma for alexove changed to 3 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
23:28:30 <yosef7> ok, thanks alexove
23:28:34 <chinosoliard> alexove, tramité el pasaporte el viernes pasado, no creo que esté hasta dentro de 3 semanas
23:28:43 <yosef7> alexove++
23:28:43 <zodbot> yosef7: Karma for alexove changed to 4 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
23:28:50 <x3mboy> alexove++
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23:29:12 <athos> anyone else?
23:29:33 * alexove yami yami I like cookies :-)
23:29:49 <athos> Ok, I have one last thing to add! I moght as well write a blog post on it:
23:30:17 <athos> last week I went to an event here is São Paulo called Osasco Open
23:30:41 <athos> Davi, one of the organizers, invited anyone who wanted to talk about Fedora to show up and do so, so I went there
23:30:58 <chinosoliard> you should, athos, to help promoting latan work
23:31:13 <chinosoliard> athos++
23:31:15 <athos> Well, I prepared a presentation called "How do we make Fedora"
23:32:13 <athos> It was about the release process of the distro. How do we branch it, what are each of the branches for, what rawhide is, when do we branch, when to release, go no-go meetings, etc, etc
23:32:38 <athos> what the event organizers didn't tell me:
23:32:41 <chinosoliard> can you share the presentation later, please?
23:32:48 <athos> it was an event for high schoolers!
23:32:52 <athos> sure chinosoliard
23:33:12 <athos> so, as you can imagine, nobody understood a single word of my presentation
23:33:30 <athos> and I ended up teaching a bit more about free software, software licenses and etc
23:33:50 <deadrat> haha.. well at least they learned something good, athos
23:33:53 <athos> My point here is: Lesson learned!
23:34:13 <athos> ask who is your audience
23:34:28 <chinosoliard> athos: how old has the students? Maybe someone learn something
23:34:40 <athos> they were 15~17
23:34:55 <athos> only one of them knew what linux was :(
23:35:03 <chinosoliard> too young
23:35:18 <athos> and I was talking about branching, because that's what I prepared for them
23:35:19 <deadrat> that is sad.. but they probably knew Win and Mac.
23:35:33 <athos> anyway EOF
23:35:46 <athos> anyone else?
23:35:49 <yosef7> Thanks for sharing your experience. athos
23:35:54 <athos> :)
23:35:55 <yosef7> athos++
23:35:55 <zodbot> yosef7: Karma for ribeiro changed to 3 (for the f24 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
23:36:02 <deadrat> chinosoliard: No, not really. They weren't too yong. schools should start teaching free software lot before that..
23:36:13 <athos> agreed!
23:36:18 <athos> shall I end the meeting then?
23:36:20 <chinosoliard> deadrat: +1
23:36:27 <athos> 5
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23:36:30 <athos> 3
23:36:31 <athos> 2
23:36:32 <athos> 1
23:36:35 <chinosoliard> good by
23:36:36 <chinosoliard> *bye
23:36:36 <athos> #endmeeting