16:55:53 <jflory7> #startmeeting Fedora CommOps (2016-03-01)
16:55:53 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Mar  1 16:55:53 2016 UTC.  The chair is jflory7. Information about MeetBot at
16:55:53 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic.
16:55:53 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_commops_(2016-03-01)'
16:55:57 <jflory7> #meetingname commops
16:55:57 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'commops'
16:56:04 <jflory7> #topic Agenda
16:56:08 <jflory7> #link
16:56:12 <jflory7> #info 1. Roll Call
16:56:16 <jflory7> #info 2. Announcements
16:56:22 <jflory7> #info 3. Tickets
16:56:27 <jflory7> #info 4. Wiki Gardening
16:56:33 <jflory7> #info 5. Community Blog
16:56:38 <jflory7> #info 6. Open Floor
16:56:42 <jflory7> #topic Roll Call
16:56:46 <jflory7> #info Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas
16:56:48 <jflory7> .hello jflory7
16:56:49 <zodbot> jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' <>
16:56:49 <decause> .hello decause
16:56:52 <zodbot> decause: decause 'Remy DeCausemaker' <>
16:57:03 <jflory7> #info Justin W. Flory; UTC-5; CommOps, Marketing (Magazine), Ambassadors, Join, and more
16:57:05 <jflory7> #chair decause
16:57:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: decause jflory7
16:57:19 <c0mrad3> .hello dhanvi
16:57:19 <decause> #info decause; UTC-5; CommOps, Council, EDU, Python
16:57:19 <zodbot> c0mrad3: dhanvi 'Tummala Dhanvi' <>
16:57:35 <jflory7> Hi c0mrad3! :)
16:57:39 <jflory7> #chair c0mrad3
16:57:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: c0mrad3 decause jflory7
16:57:49 <cprofitt> hello jflory7
16:57:53 <c0mrad3> Hello jflory7 :)
16:57:59 <jflory7> #chair cprofitt
16:57:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: c0mrad3 cprofitt decause jflory7
16:58:02 <jflory7> Hey cprofitt!
16:58:23 <jflory7> cprofitt: You can do a quick introduction with this: #info Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas
16:58:27 <linux-modder> .hello corey84
16:58:28 <zodbot> linux-modder: corey84 'Corey Sheldon' <>
16:58:34 <jflory7> Hi Corey!
16:58:35 <bee2502_> .hello bee2502
16:58:36 <zodbot> bee2502_: bee2502 'Bhagyashree Padalkar' <>
16:58:43 <jflory7> #chair linux-modder bee2502_
16:58:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: bee2502_ c0mrad3 cprofitt decause jflory7 linux-modder
16:58:49 <jflory7> Hi Bee!
16:58:50 <decause> welcome back bee2502!
16:58:59 <linux-modder> skamath,  meet me in -ambassadors post mtg for help on your last  question there
16:59:05 * decause waves to cprofitt and linux-modder too
16:59:07 <bee2502_> Hi jflory7 decause o/
16:59:11 <cprofitt> hey decause
16:59:18 <linux-modder> decause,  old man how oyu doing today ? :)
16:59:20 <decause> cprofitt: I'm coming to ROC this weekend too, for brickhacks, ICYMI
16:59:24 <linux-modder> #chair decause
16:59:24 <zodbot> Current chairs: bee2502_ c0mrad3 cprofitt decause jflory7 linux-modder
16:59:30 <decause> linux-modder: pretty darn decent sir ;)
16:59:41 * bee2502_ is still stuck in between mid semester exams though :(
16:59:41 <jflory7> decause++
16:59:57 <skamath> bee2502 wanted me to attend this. Hello people :)
17:00:00 * jflory7 just got 40 pounds of Fedora stuff 30 minutes ago from the post office
17:00:09 <cprofitt> jflory7: laptop in?
17:00:24 <bee2502_> skamath is a potential GSoC applicant for CommOps
17:00:24 <jflory7> Hi skamath! Welcome to the CommOps meeting. :)
17:00:36 <jflory7> cprofitt: I'm sure it is -- haven't had a chance to look through it all yet.
17:00:46 <skamath> jflory7: Thanks :)
17:00:57 <skamath> and yes, I am interested in contributing to CommOps
17:01:15 <jflory7> For all of you just coming in, you can do a quick introduction about yourself by typing this in channel: #info Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas
17:01:28 <linux-modder> that is the event  box
17:01:38 <linux-modder> hope you ate your wheaties jflory7
17:01:44 <jflory7> linux-modder: I have three packages.
17:01:56 <jflory7> Banners, a big rolling box from Andrew, and then something from Ben.
17:02:01 <jflory7> Not sure what the third box is.
17:02:04 <jflory7> Maybe merch?
17:02:06 <linux-modder> swag | event box  and  banners most likely
17:02:13 <jflory7> Yeah, probably swag.
17:02:21 <jflory7> Anyways, we can handle that in -ambassadors post-meeting.
17:02:29 <jflory7> linuxmodder++
17:02:37 <decause> jflory7: excellent!
17:02:47 <skamath> #info Sachin Kamath; UTC +5.30 ; CommOps
17:02:48 <linux-modder> from ben is  a  2  package ship  event pelican and  swag  in excess iirc
17:03:05 <jflory7> linux-modder: Gotcha, I see.
17:03:09 <decause> we'll get to brickhacks in open floor
17:03:22 <jflory7> skamath: Also, you can take a look at our meeting agenda here to see what we're going to be covering today.
17:03:22 <decause> for now, we should start chopping away at the agenda
17:03:36 <linux-modder> skamath,  have you seen or  finished the prelim steps form the join wiki page ?
17:03:37 <jflory7> Sounds good to me -- we've got a pretty good showing today :)
17:03:43 <jflory7> #topic Announcements
17:03:49 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #37 ===
17:03:53 <jflory7> #link
17:03:55 <skamath> linux-modder: Yes, I have. Except the mailin-list introduction
17:03:56 * decause has some here too for after tix
17:03:56 <jflory7> #info * "Making a "Join" series on the wiki"
17:04:00 <jflory7> #link
17:04:04 <jflory7> #link
17:04:06 <decause> keekri++
17:04:08 <jflory7> #info It's official! CommOps has a documented on-boarding process and it is shared across the wiki in the official channels. This should help grant us some additional visibility to new contributors looking to get involved.
17:04:15 <jflory7> \o/
17:04:17 <jflory7> keekri++
17:04:18 <decause> \o/
17:05:03 <c0mrad3> jflory7++ yes we have good number of people for the meeting :)
17:05:03 <zodbot> c0mrad3: Karma for jflory7 changed to 29 (for the f23 release cycle):
17:05:04 <skamath> linux-modder: I had contributed to GlitterGallery a while ago. I setup everything back then.
17:05:11 <linux-modder> skamath,  when you get a chance do so that  is  the last step form the looks of  it  to get approval
17:05:20 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #46 ===
17:05:22 <jflory7> #link
17:05:23 <linux-modder> belay that  gpg key upload too
17:05:26 <jflory7> #info * "[New Post] Outreachy Promotional Post"
17:05:26 <bee2502_> keekri++
17:05:30 <jflory7> #link
17:05:35 <jflory7> #info Post published, shared on Reddit, Telegram; could use a social media boost?
17:05:35 <decause> outreachy++
17:05:38 <decause> labbott++
17:05:42 <jflory7> labbott++
17:05:42 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for labbott changed to 3 (for the f23 release cycle):
17:06:03 <linux-modder> jflory7,  I'll like on my blog and  G+ later today
17:06:05 <jflory7> I actually have an #action for me later on in the meeting to share this post with the social media list
17:06:09 <jflory7> linux-modder: Awesome, for sure!
17:06:14 <decause> #action decause post outreachy announce to Fedora FB page after commops meeting
17:06:23 <decause> jflory7++
17:06:37 <decause> any other announcements?
17:06:44 <jflory7> yes.
17:06:47 <linux-modder> #action linux-modder  link to  outreachy post on G+ / PW blog
17:06:48 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #47 ===
17:06:51 <jflory7> #link
17:06:57 <jflory7> #info * "This Trac is hard to find"
17:07:02 <jflory7> #info Was resolved during Ticket #37 - we now have our Trac more clearly defined on our wiki page as its own section under "Communication" as kparal suggested. kparal++
17:07:10 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #60 ===
17:07:14 <jflory7> #link
17:07:18 <jflory7> #info * "[Onboarding Series] All The Series'"
17:07:23 <jflory7> #info All tickets for on-boarding badge series for each individual sub-project have been added to our Trac and are ready to go – we'll begin working at completing them one sub-project at a time. The above ticket serves as a tracker for all the different tickets (as part of a larger objective).
17:07:30 <jflory7> That's all the announcements I have.
17:07:36 <decause> #link
17:07:39 <decause> This is a big one
17:07:47 <decause> Today, the DROWN CVN was announced
17:07:52 <linux-modder> we are still leaning on subs for verification right?
17:07:58 <decause> because Fedora has a forward looking security policy, we avoided this
17:08:05 <decause> this is more #doingitright good news
17:08:09 <decause> and now is the time to publish it
17:08:15 <jflory7> DROWN CVN?
17:08:17 <decause> mattdm has a draft in Fedora Magazine
17:08:22 <jflory7> I'll have to go read up on the list and Magazine
17:08:34 <decause> right after this meeting, we're going to make sure that gets pushed far and wide today
17:08:51 <decause> another one
17:08:53 <decause> from marketing
17:08:55 <jflory7> sounds like a plan to me.
17:08:57 <decause> #link
17:09:18 <decause> sesivany has correctly pointed out that we are a little light in the python marketing materials area
17:09:19 <linux-modder> jflory7,  yup DROWN
17:09:41 <decause> there is an older python brochure (ruth linked to) but we need to get our python talking points together
17:09:50 <decause> upcoming hack session and email thread to come
17:09:56 <jflory7> Heheh, yeah, looks like it could use some modernization
17:10:00 <linux-modder> I already have a sidenote on my  updated spins post from this morning will link the Fedmag  link once live
17:10:09 <decause> we should ack sesivany on the list, let him know commops is on it.
17:10:20 <decause> linux-modder: excellent
17:10:22 <linux-modder> decause,  tonight ?  usual time
17:10:29 <jflory7> linux-modder: Never heard of it until now -- I'll have to do a little reading up, it seems.
17:10:30 <linux-modder> re: hack session^
17:10:43 <linux-modder> jflory7,  it came out  yesterday?
17:10:45 <decause> linux-modder: I reckon so. 6pm-?
17:10:50 <decause> jflory7: I saw it this morning
17:10:51 <linux-modder> I am part of the security-team too
17:10:58 <decause> it's "hot off the presses"
17:11:15 <decause> which is why we can hit the ground running with a great story here
17:11:15 <linux-modder> declosure date  is TODAY
17:11:24 <jflory7> I'm not going to be able to attend any hack sessions this week -- my schedule is a little too packed tight
17:11:38 <jflory7> Bu I figure decause and I can do some in-person hacking later this week
17:11:42 <decause> jflory7: no worries, we're going to have a somewhat big hacksession this weekend ;)
17:11:45 <jflory7> heheh
17:11:47 <jflory7> decause++
17:11:52 <linux-modder> decause,  ping me with a  link if I seem here but  not at  hack session pls
17:11:54 <jflory7> Anyways...
17:11:56 <jflory7> On to tickets?
17:12:00 <decause> linux-modder: kk
17:12:04 <decause> jflory7: one more
17:12:09 <jflory7> decause: Sure, shoot.
17:12:12 <decause> we Got Accepted Into GSoC!!!!
17:12:16 <linux-modder> NICE
17:12:20 <cprofitt> hack sessoins -- what are those?
17:12:21 <jflory7> Oh, yeah. I've got that for Ticket #39. :D
17:12:25 <linux-modder> how many  slots 3 ?  >3
17:12:27 <cprofitt> Congrats on GSoC
17:12:28 <skamath> Congrats guys :)
17:12:41 <bee2502_> commops++
17:12:44 <linux-modder> cprofitt,   collective  brain dumps over hangouts
17:12:46 <bee2502_> yaayyyy
17:12:51 <jflory7> cprofitt: For the past couple of weeks, we've been doing a two or three hour video call where we work on a bunch of CommOps tasks. Sometimes Tuesdays, sometimes Wednesdayus.
17:12:53 <decause> #info Fedora/Atomic have been accepted to Google Summer of Code 2016:
17:12:53 <jflory7> GSoC++
17:12:59 <decause> #link
17:13:22 * skamath is waiting to get his hands dirty
17:13:28 <jflory7> decause++ kushal++ hguemar++ for administrating GSoC this year. :)
17:13:28 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for kushal changed to 7 (for the f23 release cycle):
17:13:31 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for hguemar changed to 14 (for the f23 release cycle):
17:13:46 <linux-modder> if we still need py  mentors hit me up  decause
17:13:48 <decause> shoutout to jberkus, walters, mmcgrath, number80, and lmacken for the help with applications
17:13:51 <decause> linux-modder: can do
17:14:00 <decause> yeah, kushal too
17:14:03 <decause> ok
17:14:12 <decause> jflory7: EoF
17:14:18 <linux-modder> kushal++ lmacken++
17:14:28 <c0mrad3> !
17:14:30 <decause> wiat
17:14:31 <decause> wait
17:14:32 <decause> one more
17:14:33 <decause> lol
17:14:50 <linux-modder> EOF <<<<< EOF ?
17:14:52 <decause> #info Fedora Friends Birds of a Feather Session was accepted for Red Hat Summit
17:14:54 <jflory7> linux-modder: I don't think cookies will work for you because of your IRC nick.
17:14:59 <decause> ok, now EoF
17:15:01 <jflory7> Ahh, yeah, I did catch wind of that
17:15:09 <linux-modder> jflory7,   irc nick takes them
17:15:23 <jflory7> linux-modder: Isn't your IRC nick linuxmodder in FAS?
17:15:24 <jflory7> #topic Tickets
17:15:30 <jflory7> #link
17:15:32 <linux-modder> nope linux-modder
17:15:38 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #2 ===
17:15:43 <jflory7> #link
17:15:47 <jflory7> #info * "Request for a tool to converge tickets from the main teams to commops ticketing"
17:15:50 <jflory7> We began discussing this last week but hadn't settled on how we wanted to make the tool. Do we want to make it "in house" via CommOps or do we want to request it through another sub-project like Fedora Infrastructure?
17:16:13 <linux-modder> tag team maybe
17:16:21 <linux-modder> commops + infra
17:16:29 <Southern_Gentlem> .hello jbwillia
17:16:30 <zodbot> Southern_Gentlem: jbwillia 'Ben Williams' <>
17:16:36 * jflory7 wasn't sure how complex or simple this kind of thing would be
17:16:38 <jflory7> #chair Southern_Gentlem
17:16:38 <zodbot> Current chairs: Southern_Gentlem bee2502_ c0mrad3 cprofitt decause jflory7 linux-modder
17:16:41 <linux-modder> draft in commops deploy  in infra
17:16:51 <jflory7> Oh, c0mrad3, I just noticed you wanted to get something in.
17:16:58 <jflory7> c0mrad3: What did you want to say earlier about GSoC?
17:17:01 <decause> jflory7: I think we should talk to infra (particularly threebean, or someone else with zodbot/supybot chops)
17:17:27 <jflory7> decause: Yeah, I think so too.
17:17:27 <c0mrad3> jflory7: yes I was waiting for my turn :P
17:17:30 <decause> start a convo with those folks on the mailing list
17:17:38 <cprofitt> decause: I have been making a bot too -- would love the chance to make one for commops or work with someone to get that done.
17:17:42 <decause> c0mrad3: dive right in. Async communication
17:17:48 <decause> cprofitt: cool!
17:18:02 <c0mrad3> I am also interested in GSOC commops :)
17:18:15 * jflory7 remembers the Bot Forge badge idea for working on zodbot
17:18:22 <decause> cprofitt: we use supybot as the base in Fedora. zodbot is in over 100 channels :)
17:18:22 <jflory7> cprofitt++
17:18:32 <decause> c0mrad3: glad to hear it!
17:18:45 <cprofitt> decause: yep, been looking at the source code for those.
17:18:52 <jflory7> cprofitt: You might be able to look into commopsbot / commopswatch for CommOps-specific things. I'm not sure where its code lives.
17:18:55 <decause> any new GSoC'ers should def check this link after the meeting:
17:18:58 <decause> #link
17:19:00 <c0mrad3> I have closed this issue
17:19:12 <jflory7> c0mrad3: Awesome, that's great to hear about GSoC!
17:19:22 <c0mrad3> decause: I was one who gave you that link :)
17:19:45 <jflory7> c0mrad3++ Actually, yeah, good catch. I forgot about that ticket, and ryanlerch did fix that functionality. puiter wijk should be pushing the update at some point soon.
17:19:47 <zodbot> jflory7: Karma for dhanvi changed to 2 (for the f23 release cycle):
17:19:48 <decause> also, new GSoC folks should take a look at this badge series as well as a good way to familiarize yourself with Fedora:
17:19:59 <decause> #link
17:20:03 <decause> oops
17:20:04 <decause> #undo
17:20:04 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Link object at 0x3b8651d0>
17:20:08 <fale> .hello fale
17:20:10 <zodbot> fale: fale 'Fabio Alessandro Locati' <>
17:20:20 <linux-modder> #chair fale
17:20:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: Southern_Gentlem bee2502_ c0mrad3 cprofitt decause fale jflory7 linux-modder
17:20:21 <decause> #link
17:20:25 <skamath> Did checkout that link :) I had applied for GSoC last year too. Didn't quite make it last year.
17:20:27 <jflory7> Also, welcome Southern_Gentlem and fale :)
17:20:29 * decause waves to fale
17:20:46 <decause> ok, back to tickets
17:20:52 * c0mrad3 hello fale Southern_Gentlem :)
17:20:52 <jflory7> linux-modder, decause: I'm thinking we open a loop with threebean about this ticket?
17:21:03 <linux-modder> skamath  as far as commops what aspects did you have in mind help wise?
17:21:10 <linux-modder> jflory7,  sure
17:21:25 <linux-modder> I can put a bird in his ear later
17:21:27 <skamath> linux-modder: can you rephrase that?
17:21:29 <jflory7> We can look at filing a ticket on Infra Trac based on what threebean says
17:21:42 <linux-modder> and link to the ticket if you or decause  wanna  fire one off
17:21:56 <decause> jflory7: yeah, threebean is going to be a lil busy with house-moving stuff right now, but we can circle back with him soon
17:22:00 <linux-modder> skamath,  what part of  commops stuff interests you ?
17:22:08 <decause> linux-modder: have at it
17:22:25 <jflory7> decause: Gotcha. Since this is a low urgency, let's just follow up on it either late this week or next week
17:22:30 <jflory7> Good to know that he's low cycles
17:22:31 <decause> jflory7: agreed.
17:22:39 <linux-modder> I'm busy today and tomorrow myself  but will try to remember
17:22:49 <decause> linux-modder: not urgent, can wait a few days
17:23:09 <decause> we'll be sure to keep cprofitt in the loop
17:23:15 <jflory7> #info [Ticket #2] threebean is currently low on cycles and is the best point of contact for this ticket; once he has some more time, we will follow up with him about how to go about implementing this feature
17:23:19 <linux-modder> #action linux-modder  to chat with threebean about  #409 and  work on ticket in infra-trac  per convo
17:23:31 <decause> cprofitt: maybe cc yourself on the ticket, to keep up with bot improvements
17:23:34 <jflory7> #info [Ticket #2] Anyone interested is welcome to CC themselves to this ticket as well!
17:23:39 <decause> jflory7++
17:23:42 <decause> reading my mind
17:23:47 <jflory7> :)
17:23:47 <cprofitt> decause: cool.
17:23:50 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #11 ===
17:23:55 <jflory7> #link
17:23:59 <jflory7> #info * "Infra + Websites Collaboration: Budgeting Site"
17:24:06 <jflory7> decause: Was thinking this ticket was mainly going to be a quick update
17:24:08 <skamath> linux-modder the web-dev part. I basically love anything related to web. I'm pretty good with security , sysadmin'n and Linux in general.
17:24:13 <jflory7> If you had anything to add?
17:24:15 * decause raises hands in victory
17:24:21 <decause> \o/
17:24:28 <jflory7> skamath: Hmmm... you haven't by chance heard of Fedora Hubs, have you?
17:24:33 <jflory7> decause: Is it finished?!
17:24:41 * jflory7 saw screenshots but wasn'tsure
17:24:43 <decause> well, version 1.0 is shipped, and being tested/merged into main Fedora-web repo
17:24:47 <jflory7> Woohoo!
17:24:48 <linux-modder> skamath,  chat up threebean and  puiterwijk  then when you get a chance, also consider  infra for the sysadmin bits
17:24:55 <jflory7> decause++
17:25:00 <danofsatx> wait, what? there's a meeting going on?
17:25:09 <jflory7> Hi danofsatx!
17:25:15 <linux-modder> danofsatx, commops
17:25:16 <c0mrad3> danofsatx: yes!
17:25:20 <linux-modder> #chair danofsatx
17:25:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: Southern_Gentlem bee2502_ c0mrad3 cprofitt danofsatx decause fale jflory7 linux-modder
17:25:34 <danofsatx> hiyas ;) my class is on a lunch break, so I thought I'd drop in and say hi
17:25:45 * decause was digging for screenshots link, cannot find it
17:25:46 <decause> :P
17:25:51 <skamath> linux-modder I have heard of Hubs :) And yeah, will take a look/
17:25:53 <jflory7> decause: Do you think this ticket is worth closing since 1.0 is released, or do you want to keep it open for now?
17:26:15 <linux-modder> you can find me there too among other subs here skamath
17:26:28 <decause> #link
17:26:30 <jflory7> skamath: Let's definitely get you on the loop about Fedora Hubs. There's a lot of good things happening there and your webdev parts can definitely be put to use. :)
17:26:42 <jflory7> Ahhh, there it is
17:26:42 <decause> jflory7: yes, let's close one
17:26:49 <linux-modder> skamath++
17:26:55 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Close Ticket #11
17:27:12 <decause> next
17:27:14 <skamath> jflory7: would love to be of help :)
17:27:24 <jflory7> #agreed decause has finished the 1.0 release of the Budgets site and it should see action soon across the Fedora Infra team. Stay tuned for the official premier of the site!
17:27:29 <puiterwijk> linux-modder: what's up with me?
17:27:34 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #17 ===
17:27:37 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #17 ===
17:27:41 <jflory7> #link
17:27:43 <skamath> linux-modder: You are everywhere? :O
17:27:45 <jflory7> #info * "Interview Fedora's Diversity and Inclusion Advisor, tatica"
17:27:46 <puiterwijk> Oh, sorry for interrupting
17:27:48 <decause> jflory7: there'll likely be a commblog post shortly thereafter, but when we've got budget numbers in there too
17:27:52 <decause> puiterwijk: you're good
17:27:52 <jflory7> Push back another week?
17:27:54 <jflory7> puiterwijk: You're fine!
17:28:03 <decause> jflory7: yep, push
17:28:07 * jflory7 nods
17:28:17 <jflory7> #agreed Pushing back another week for now, will check in again next week
17:28:21 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #29 ===
17:28:21 <decause> #action decause ping tatica, check-in with her and see how she's doing for next week
17:28:25 <jflory7> #link
17:28:27 <c0mrad3> decause++ website looks almost comple :)
17:28:27 <zodbot> c0mrad3: Karma for decause changed to 24 (for the f23 release cycle):
17:28:29 <jflory7> #info * "G11n - proposal for the group revitalization"
17:28:33 <jflory7> #info In last week's hack session, we met with aeng from the G11n team and decause and aeng brainstormed some ways to help boost the G11n sub-project back up, including discussing the details of the vFAD. However, this information has not been shared on the ticket yet.
17:28:37 <jflory7> #link
17:28:55 <danofsatx> oh, almost forgot....
17:28:56 <linux-modder> skamath,  not everywhere but enough places to stay low on cycles as the phrase goes
17:28:56 <jflory7> Any new milestones or goals we want to set for this ticket?
17:29:03 <decause> #info DO NOT try to export the HTML... it crashes the entire etherpad server ;)
17:29:07 <jflory7> danofsatx: Forgot to say, welcome to the meeting :)
17:29:23 <jflory7> decause: Hah, yeah... I gave puiterwijk a bit of a headache with that :P
17:29:27 <danofsatx> #info danofsatx, dmossor, UTC-6, CommOps, Ambassadors, QA, Server, KDE, ++
17:29:33 <jflory7> danofsatx++
17:29:35 * decause waves to danofsatx
17:29:36 <puiterwijk> #info Anyone who crashes the GNOME etherpad server better run away from me
17:29:41 <puiterwijk> #undo
17:29:43 <decause> puiterwijk++
17:29:47 <decause> sorry puiterwijk :)
17:29:49 <c0mrad3> decause: looks like it's easy to crash the server :)
17:29:55 <decause> I swear I only did it the first time
17:29:56 <jflory7> puiterwijk++
17:30:07 <linux-modder> lol
17:30:08 <puiterwijk> c0mrad3: etherpad is way too unstable, you don't want to know
17:30:09 <jflory7> I'm pretty sure I did it the second time... oops...
17:30:20 <decause> we had to confirm
17:30:27 <decause> but now, we know ;)
17:30:30 <jflory7> Yep!
17:30:35 <jflory7> Anyways...
17:30:37 <decause> ok, so, the point of that was g11n
17:30:38 <jflory7> Any new milestones or goals we want to set for this ticket?
17:30:51 <decause> jflory7: there is a thread going in the ambassador list now too
17:30:59 <decause> about South-East translation challenge as well
17:31:34 <kushal> hello btw :)
17:31:38 * kushal was having dinner
17:31:41 <linux-modder> there is ?   haven't seen it
17:31:47 <linux-modder> #chair kushal
17:31:47 <zodbot> Current chairs: Southern_Gentlem bee2502_ c0mrad3 cprofitt danofsatx decause fale jflory7 kushal linux-modder
17:31:53 <decause> oops, not on a list yet
17:31:54 <jflory7> Hi kushal! Welcome. :)
17:31:54 <c0mrad3> puiterwijk: yes it's very unstable Mozilla stopped the developement of it I guess!
17:32:12 <decause> stay tuned for that
17:32:15 * c0mrad3 hello kushal :)
17:32:36 <decause> kushal++
17:32:37 <zodbot> decause: Karma for kushal changed to 8 (for the f23 release cycle):
17:32:55 <jflory7> Time check, 30 minutes to go
17:33:06 <decause> jflory7: lets set an action to follow-up with pravins and aeng
17:33:10 * jflory7 nods
17:33:16 <jflory7> What do we want to follow up on?
17:33:22 <jflory7> The vFAD?
17:33:26 <jflory7> Or CommBlog article?
17:33:27 * kushal should become a little more active in the list
17:33:31 <c0mrad3> decause++
17:33:44 <decause> all of the above. when is the g11n meeting?
17:33:51 <jflory7> decause: I think today?
17:33:57 <jflory7> If not today, then same day next week
17:34:04 <jflory7> I can't remember if they meet every other week or not.
17:34:08 <decause> jflory7: kk, I'll likely stop by there if it's today
17:34:23 <decause> #action decause attend g11n meeting today (if it's today)
17:34:24 <jflory7> #nick pravins
17:34:27 <jflory7> #nick aeng
17:34:41 <linux-modder> i18n is in 12 hours  decause
17:34:41 <fale> G11N will have an I18N meeting in few hrs (06:00UTC)
17:34:45 <jflory7> #action decause / jflory7 Follow up with pravins and aeng about G11n vFAD and CommBlog article for revitalization efforts
17:34:51 <jflory7> fale++
17:34:54 <decause> fale++
17:34:55 <jflory7> .nextmeetings
17:34:58 <zodbot> jflory7: One moment, please...  Looking up the channel list.
17:35:00 <zodbot> jflory7: In #fedora-meeting is i18n meeting (starting in 12 hours)
17:35:03 <zodbot> jflory7: In #fedora-docs is Fedora Docs Office Hours (EMEA) (starting in 20 hours)
17:35:06 <jflory7> Ah, there we have it
17:35:06 <zodbot> jflory7: In #fedora-meeting-2 is FAmSCo meeting (starting in 20 hours)
17:35:09 <zodbot> jflory7: In #fedora-meeting is Workstation WG (starting in 21 hours)
17:35:12 <zodbot> jflory7: In #rdo is RDO meeting (starting in 21 hours)
17:35:16 <decause> so, midnight tonight then :)
17:35:26 <decause> I /may/ be able to make that
17:35:33 <linux-modder> 0035  local decause  yes
17:35:40 <c0mrad3> decause: it's midnight for me now :)
17:35:45 * fale will try to attend the meeting as well, but I'm not sure to be able to because I'm moving this week :(
17:35:46 <decause> c0mrad3++
17:35:53 <decause> fale++
17:35:58 <decause> good luck with the move!
17:36:00 <jflory7> c0mrad3: Thanks for sticking it out to be here with us!
17:36:04 <fale> decause: thanks :)
17:36:05 <decause> ok, jflory7 I think we've covered that ticket
17:36:08 <jflory7> fale: No worries, best of luck with the move!
17:36:09 <decause> next
17:36:10 <jflory7> Agreed
17:36:18 <jflory7> Last ticket...
17:36:22 <jflory7> #info === Ticket #39 ===
17:36:26 <jflory7> #link
17:36:29 <jflory7> #info * "CommOps and Google Summer of Code"
17:36:34 <jflory7> #info Fedora + Atomic is now a participating member of Google Summer of Code for a tenth year! Woohoo! Thanks to all the people that put in the extra cycles to help pull this together and make it happen. Next steps: a CommBlog article and more publicity for this? What milestones do we want to set?
17:36:41 <c0mrad3> jflory7: No worries I never sleep before 12 :)
17:37:02 <decause> jflory7: yes, commblog post announcing our participation should be next 48 hours
17:37:10 <decause> even just a quick 'wrapper' post
17:37:13 <jflory7> c0mrad3: Hahah, relatable. ;)
17:37:14 * jflory7 nods
17:37:33 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Draft up a GSoC announcement post confirming Fedora's participation and linking to the essential pages
17:37:36 <jflory7> #undo
17:37:36 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by jflory7 at 17:37:33 : jflory7 Draft up a GSoC announcement post confirming Fedora's participation and linking to the essential pages
17:37:39 * decause posted to personal channels yesterday, should do official channels in next 48
17:37:49 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Draft up a GSoC announcement post confirming Fedora's participation and linking to the essential pages [DUE: March 2]]
17:37:56 <decause> jflory7++
17:38:06 <linux-modder> #action link to  GSoC  post on blog and  elsewhere (including ycombinator)
17:38:06 <linux-modder> #action linux-modder link to  GSoC  post on blog and  elsewhere (including ycombinator)
17:38:07 <decause> it takes a backseat to DROWN, which is ASAP
17:38:08 <cprofitt> jflory7++ make sure you ping me so I can socialize it.
17:38:17 <jflory7> What's our next long-term goal after promoting this news?
17:38:20 <jflory7> cprofitt: For sure!
17:38:24 <decause> cprofitt++
17:38:26 * c0mrad3 googling for this new commands here :)
17:38:39 <jflory7> c0mrad3: you mean the MeetBot stuff?
17:38:42 <decause> jflory7: we're going to be helping onboard the new GSoC folks, along with mentors
17:39:03 <jflory7> c0mrad3: Try this :)
17:39:10 <c0mrad3> jflory7: okay so the bot's project name is MeetBoot :)
17:39:13 <decause> jflory7: very similar to the messages we sent in the early days when bee/kee were applying for outreachy, and the latest messages to sylvia
17:39:24 <decause> jflory7: we should get a 'standard' package together
17:39:26 <jflory7> c0mrad3: zodbot is our bot, and it has a Meetbot plugin added to it. :)
17:39:27 <linux-modder> How many slots did we get ?
17:39:28 <decause> I've just been using emails
17:39:33 <decause> linux-modder: we won't know...
17:39:43 <decause> linux-modder: they decide based on how many applicants and mentors we get
17:39:52 <jflory7> decause: We're referring to email on-boarding?
17:39:57 <jflory7> Or are you meaning something else?
17:40:00 <c0mrad3> jflory7: wow fedora using a debian bot :P
17:40:06 <cprofitt> decause: how do you determine mentors? what is needed to be a mentor?
17:40:10 <decause> #info decause's goal is to get the ratio of mentors-to-ideas to be 1:1 for GSoC
17:40:14 <jflory7> c0mrad3: Cross-distro collaboration is a good thing :)
17:40:18 <fale> decause: official mentors or all kind of mentors?
17:40:18 <decause> #undo
17:40:18 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by decause at 17:40:10 : decause's goal is to get the ratio of mentors-to-ideas to be 1:1 for GSoC
17:40:19 <linux-modder> decause,  jflory7  cprofitt   start hanging out in #fedora-summer-coding AND #gsoc  if not already doing so
17:40:25 <decause> #info decause's goal is to get the ratio of mentors-to-ideas to be 1:1 for GSoC (or higher)
17:40:45 <cprofitt> linux-modder: done
17:40:48 <decause> #action decause join #gsoc on freenode
17:40:50 * linux-modder volunteers for mentoring  py and /or  hubs
17:40:57 <decause> linux-modder: yes, that would be super helpful
17:41:07 <c0mrad3> linux-modder: I am in both the channels :)
17:41:10 <linux-modder> #gsoc is the OFFICIAL  channel for  gsoc
17:41:15 * jflory7 is happy to help out with CommOps plans
17:41:24 <jflory7> Anyways, let's do a quick vote here.
17:41:26 <decause> #action linux-modder add yourself as a mentor for hubs on ideas page:
17:41:34 * linux-modder figured that  was understood  re:commops
17:41:54 <linux-modder> decause,  post mtg will do
17:42:03 <decause> jflory7: sure
17:42:23 <c0mrad3> this should be a 2 min task for anyone who is admin on the blog :)
17:42:36 <jflory7> #proposed Next plans for GSoC after immediate broadcasting on the Community Blog and social media will be to create the standard "welcoming package" to help on-board newcomers from GSoC into CommOps and other related projects.
17:42:42 <jflory7> +1
17:42:48 <decause> +1
17:42:56 <c0mrad3> +1
17:43:14 <cprofitt> +1
17:43:24 <bee2502_> decause : have we defined a coding project for commops yet ?
17:44:00 <decause> bee2502_: the metrics description has been tweaked a bit to be more explicitly about coding
17:44:10 <cprofitt> #action cprofitt create quality category
17:44:29 <decause> #info GSoC welcome drafting page here:
17:44:46 <jflory7> cprofitt: I think this one will have to be a decause or me sort of thing because of CommBlog permissions - I went ahead and accepted the ticket for now
17:45:01 <jflory7> so, for the proposal, going once--
17:45:08 <jflory7> Going twice--
17:45:16 <jflory7> Going thrice--
17:45:20 <cprofitt> jflory7: looks like I made it.
17:45:29 <jflory7> #agreed Next plans for GSoC after immediate broadcasting on the Community Blog and social media will be to create the standard "welcoming package" to help on-board newcomers from GSoC into CommOps and other related projects.
17:45:37 <jflory7> cprofitt: Oh, you were able to? Awesome!
17:45:52 <jflory7> cprofitt++
17:45:52 <linux-modder> done decause
17:46:01 <decause> linux-modder++
17:46:04 <c0mrad3> jflory7: cprofitt yes any admin of the blog can make it :)
17:46:10 <jflory7> Any other discussion about GSoC to fit in?
17:46:15 <decause> #link
17:46:16 * jflory7 notes we have 15 minutes left
17:46:21 <decause> jflory7: EOF
17:46:28 <jflory7> decause: Perfect
17:46:41 <jflory7> Okay... I think we'll switch over to the CommBlog now
17:46:52 <jflory7> Sorry, Wiki Gardening
17:46:55 <jflory7> #topic Wiki Gardening
17:47:01 <jflory7> #nick NewMembers
17:47:05 <jflory7> #action NewMembers Add your timezone / interests on CommOps Wiki [ ]
17:47:09 <jflory7> #help The Fedora Join page could use some cycles for tidying up, reformating, and general cleanup. It's a well-visited page and it's important the information on this page is current and correct.
17:47:13 <jflory7> #link
17:47:29 * c0mrad3 I have done it already :)
17:47:39 <decause> c0mrad3++
17:48:02 <decause> other wiki things?
17:48:15 <jflory7> c0mrad3: Nice, I see you added the link to the top. Good call. :)
17:48:22 <jflory7> decause: I have none
17:48:44 <c0mrad3> jflory7: :)
17:48:50 <decause> I think I'm good too, maybe marketing page?
17:48:51 <linux-modder> jflory7,  we did leave the  gpg key thing on join page right?
17:49:12 <jflory7> decause: Probably the Join page for Marketing but I think that's overlap into the Ticket we have planned for Marketing on-boarding.
17:49:29 <jflory7> linux-modder: Hmmm, not sure I know what you're referring to?
17:49:44 <linux-modder> the uploading a gpg key to keys.fp.o
17:49:59 <linux-modder> for commops onboarding
17:50:24 <jflory7> linux-modder: Might be a high demand for getting started, I think
17:50:50 <skamath> I've added my info to the wiki
17:50:54 <decause> linux-modder: with the right tutorials (from magazine?) we could maybe have this be a path
17:50:58 <decause> skamath: excellent
17:50:59 <linux-modder> not a prelim but as a suggested -- that's what I thought we  were planning to do
17:51:18 <c0mrad3> aren't we missing this ?
17:51:30 <linux-modder> the other reason I mention it  with jflory7 's series  fully  populated on magizine now
17:51:31 <jflory7> linux-modder: We don't really use GPG keys as an essential part of our workflow so I don't think it should be a requirement per say to become a member of CommOps, but I definitely don't have anything against encouraging it.
17:51:39 <jflory7> linux-modder: cprofitt's series :)
17:51:48 <linux-modder> my bad
17:51:55 <decause> linux-modder: I think making it part of GSoC onboarding is a good idea though
17:52:02 <decause> and outreachy too
17:52:06 <jflory7> skamath: Awesome, that's excellent! When you get some time, you should also look into sending a self-introduction to our mailing list. :)
17:52:10 <linux-modder> would almost  say a  must for gsoc
17:52:13 <decause> skamath: ^
17:52:16 <decause> yes, this
17:52:22 <decause> linux-modder: agreed
17:52:24 <decause> ok
17:52:28 <decause> any other wiki gardening?
17:52:30 <skamath> jflory7: Will do :)
17:52:37 <jflory7> c0mrad3: We hit that ticket earlier on. :)
17:52:40 * c0mrad3 security guys are always like this :) linux-modder
17:52:51 <jflory7> [12:34:41] <fale> G11N will have an I18N meeting in few hrs (06:00UTC)
17:52:51 <jflory7> [12:34:45] <jflory7> #action decause / jflory7 Follow up with pravins and aeng about G11n vFAD and CommBlog article for revitalization efforts
17:52:58 <linux-modder> forces the mentees  to  know how to use  gpg for  repos and code etc  at a minimal level at least
17:53:10 <jflory7> linux-modder: Ahhh, yeah, I see the application there
17:53:15 <c0mrad3> jflory7: my bad I missed it :) I might have been afk :)
17:53:16 <jflory7> linuxmodder++
17:53:16 <linux-modder> c0mrad3,  I'm one such dude :)
17:53:17 <decause> linux-modder: yeah, for GSoC/Outreachy def important
17:53:21 <jflory7> c0mrad3: No worries!
17:53:28 <jflory7> Anyways, we're down to seven minutes - CommBlog?
17:53:32 <decause> jflory7: yes
17:53:35 <decause> commblog go
17:53:37 <jflory7> #topic Community Blog
17:53:52 <jflory7> Okay, this is a lot of rapid fire information for anyone who is attending a meeting for the first time :)
17:53:56 <jflory7> Hold on for a second--
17:54:02 <jflory7> #info === This Week in CommBlog ===
17:54:06 <jflory7> #info * "Fedora Infrastructure projects in IndiaHacks 2016"
17:54:10 <jflory7> #link
17:54:13 <jflory7> #info Total Views (Feb. 23 - Mar. 01): 221
17:54:15 * c0mrad3 like me :)
17:54:17 <jflory7> #link
17:54:21 <jflory7> #info * "Outreachy 2016 remote internships and Fedora"
17:54:25 <jflory7> #link
17:54:28 <jflory7> #info Total Views (Feb. 25 - Mar. 01): 91
17:54:32 <jflory7> #link
17:54:37 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Share this article link with social-media mailing list
17:54:38 <decause> 221 not bad :)
17:54:41 <jflory7> #info * "Friday Fedora Web Dev Clinic"
17:54:45 <jflory7> #link
17:54:49 <jflory7> #info Total Views (Feb. 25 - Mar. 01): 33
17:54:53 <jflory7> #link
17:54:57 <jflory7> #info * "Heroes of Fedora (HoF) – F23 Beta"
17:55:01 <jflory7> #link
17:55:06 <jflory7> #info Total Views (Feb. 29 - Mar. 01): 24
17:55:10 <jflory7> #link
17:55:14 <cprofitt> on the article about Campus Ambassadors -- add some keywords that related to K-12, Secondary Education, High School, etc.
17:55:26 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Put the Heroes of Fedora article on the Telegram broadcast group
17:55:30 <jflory7> #info * "PCWorld interviews FPL Matthew Miller for Fedora 2016 plans"
17:55:35 <jflory7> #link
17:55:39 <jflory7> #info Total Views (Feb. 29 - Mar. 01): 19
17:55:43 <jflory7> #link
17:55:47 <jflory7> #info === Coming Up in CommBlog ===
17:55:51 <jflory7> #info * "Campus Ambassadors Initiative"
17:55:55 <jflory7> #link
17:55:59 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Finish getting this drafted for next week
17:56:07 <jflory7> #info [12:55:14] <cprofitt> on the article about Campus Ambassadors -- add some keywords that related to K-12, Secondary Education, High School, etc.
17:56:12 <jflory7> cprofitt++
17:56:14 <jflory7> eof
17:56:18 <decause> #info DROWN article coming up Today
17:56:19 <jflory7> That's all I have for CommBlog news.
17:56:25 <jflory7> decause: That's going on CommBlog or Magazine?
17:56:42 <decause> #info Event Reports from Europe (FOSDEM/DevConf/Cfgmgmntcamp) coming soon too
17:56:54 <decause> jflory7: we'll do a wrapper post on commblog, you're right
17:57:06 <cprofitt> DROWN hit today on planet
17:57:18 * jflory7 nods
17:57:24 <decause> cprofitt: we've got a magazine post from mattdm that is ready for review
17:57:29 <jflory7> Currently in drafts, we have five posts:
17:57:48 <cprofitt> decause++
17:57:54 <jflory7> FOSDEM 2016, DevConf 2016, my Trac beginners article, and the fedmsg2gource article.
17:58:04 <jflory7> And the server minimal install but that article is stalled
17:58:25 * decause needs to clear the evens cache
17:58:29 <decause> severely
17:58:35 <jflory7> I'm +1 for moving it to the trash at this point because it wasn't really something the Server working group was looking into heavily when I followed up with their group
17:58:39 <decause> GSoC is done(ish) for now, so other writing cycles can commence
17:58:52 <decause> jflory7: +1
17:58:58 <cprofitt> +1
17:59:07 <decause> #info Trash is just another queue in Wordpress, it can always be rescued ;)
17:59:42 <jflory7> #info "Fedora Server Working Group discusses minimal installs" moved to Trash, article is outdated and may not even be major news because of Server Working Group's current objectives
17:59:52 <jflory7> Okay, last call for CommBlog?
17:59:55 <jflory7> Going once--
18:00:00 <jflory7> Going twice--
18:00:08 <jflory7> Going thrice--
18:00:10 <jflory7> #topic Open Floor
18:00:18 <decause> 2 mins of open floor :)
18:00:21 <decause> anybody got anything?
18:00:21 <jflory7> Okay, phew, we made it :)
18:00:30 <cprofitt> thanks everyone! awesome meeting.
18:00:48 <Southern_Gentlem> jflory7, actually you are 5 min over
18:00:55 <decause> #info Welcome new CommOps members! Be sure to introduce yourselves on the mailing list, and to apply for FAS group membership, join the mailing lists, etc...
18:01:02 <jflory7> decause: You beat me by a few seconds :P
18:01:06 <decause> jflory7: :)
18:01:17 <jflory7> #link
18:01:47 <decause> nice work today folks, lets knock out those commblog items, and if anyone will be around tonight, I may be doing some writing later on (6pm-?)
18:01:51 <jflory7> Southern_Gentlem: I've got 13:01 on my clock -- either way, there's nobody with a meeting after us so we should be alright
18:02:10 <jflory7> #info jflory7 will be low on cycles this week and may not be around as often as normal
18:02:16 <decause> jflory7++
18:02:24 <decause> take some time, save your strength for brickhacks ;)
18:02:29 <jflory7> Hahah, for sure
18:02:33 <jflory7> Going to be an awesome weekend
18:02:45 <jflory7> Anyways, I motion to close out the meeting
18:02:52 <jflory7> I think we hit everything we had planned. :)
18:02:56 <decause> going once
18:03:00 <c0mrad3> +1
18:03:04 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Prepare next week's meeting agenda a little bit earlier than the hour before
18:03:23 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Follow up on Quality category for the CommBlog
18:03:42 <jflory7> #action Add minutes / logs to the wiki page after meeting
18:03:48 <jflory7> I'm +1 to close now
18:03:55 <decause> going twice
18:03:58 <decause> going thrice
18:04:00 <jflory7> Oh
18:04:02 <jflory7> #undo
18:04:02 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: ACTION by jflory7 at 18:03:42 : Add minutes / logs to the wiki page after meeting
18:04:06 <jflory7> #action jflory7 Add minutes / logs to the wiki page after meeting
18:04:08 <jflory7> Whoops
18:04:22 <jflory7> Let's gavel out :)
18:04:24 <jflory7> #endmeeting