#fedora-meeting-2: F20 Beta Go/No-Go meeting

Meeting summary

1. Roll Call (jreznik, 17:00:53)
   
2. Purpose of this meeting (jreznik, 17:05:00)
   1. Purpose of this meeting is to see whether or not F20 Beta is ready for shipment, according to the release criteria. (jreznik, 17:05:37)
   2. This is determined in a few ways: (jreznik, 17:05:38)
   3. No remaining blocker bugs (jreznik, 17:05:40)
   4. Test matrices for Beta are fully completed (jreznik, 17:05:41)
   5. http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/20/beta/buglist (jreznik, 17:05:43)
   6. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_20_Beta_TC6_Install (jreznik, 17:05:44)
   7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_20_Beta_TC6_Base (jreznik, 17:05:46)
   8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_20_Beta_TC6_Desktop (jreznik, 17:05:47)
   
   
3. Current status (jreznik, 17:06:08)
   1. https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5787 (jreznik, 17:07:55)
   
   
4. (1024144) SizeNotPositiveError: spec= param must be >=0 (tflink, 17:14:06)
   1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1024144 (tflink, 17:14:06)
   2. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:14:07)
   3. ACTION: cmurf and adamw to continue the conversation of whether lvm thinp and btrfs should be tech previews for F20 (tflink, 17:39:39)
   4. AGREED: 1024144 - RejectedBlocker - This bug involves a disk layout which was modified outside of the installer and thus, is too much of a corner case to block the release of F20 beta. Please re-propose for final. (tflink, 17:39:52)
   
   
5. (967521) /var/log/journal breaks system startup (tflink, 17:40:04)
   1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=967521 (tflink, 17:40:04)
   2. Proposed Blocker, plymouth, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:40:04)
   3. AGREED: 967521 - RejectedBlocker RejectedFreezeException - Slow bootup is not a blocker or FreezeException worthy issue, especially for an issue that has been around as long as this one has. Please re-propose with a better justification for why this bug should block release if there is more going on than we understand. (tflink, 17:49:50)
   
   
6. (1000891) DVD is oversized (larger than 4.7 GB) (tflink, 17:51:13)
   1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000891 (tflink, 17:51:14)
   2. Accepted Blocker, distribution, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:51:14)
   3. waiting on a workable fix for pungi in order to be able to move forward on this (tflink, 17:56:19)
   4. ACTION: jreznik to coordinate with dgilmore and dmach on getting a workable pungi fix (tflink, 18:01:14)
   
   
7. (1023767) shim update to 0.5 fails to boot (tflink, 18:02:58)
   1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1023767 (tflink, 18:02:59)
   2. Accepted Blocker, shim, NEW (tflink, 18:02:59)
   3. this will be addressed for TC7/RC1 by removing shim-0.5-1 and thus, working around the release blocking behavior (tflink, 18:03:59)
   4. once the releace blocking behavior has been mitigated, this bug will no longer block release (tflink, 18:04:29)
   5. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1010474 (tflink, 18:08:50)
   
   
8. Go/No-Go decision (jreznik, 18:25:43)
   1. qa is no-go because of unaddressed blockers (jreznik, 18:26:22)
   
   
9. (983110) several autostart apps (e.g. polkit-kde, kmix) and logout/shutdown countdown fails (tflink, 18:44:07)
   1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=983110 (tflink, 18:44:10)
   2. Proposed Blocker, kde-workspace, NEW (tflink, 18:44:12)
   3. AGREED: 983110 - RejectedBlocker - This bug has been around for a long time, has reasonable workarounds and does not appear to be hitting with much consistencty. (tflink, 18:51:33)
   
   
10. Go/No-Go decision (tflink, 18:52:15)
    1. AGREED: full week slip due to unresolved blocker bugs by the go/no-go meeting and unavailability of QA resources for one day slip; propose shorter "beta to final cycle" to FESCo due to potential clash with holidays with early freeze date (jreznik, 19:23:50)
    2. ACTION: jreznik to announce slip and propose shorter beta to final period to FESCo (jreznik, 19:24:58)
    
    
11. Open floor (jreznik, 19:25:10)
    1. https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/96 (dgilmore, 19:27:01)

Action items

1. cmurf and adamw to continue the conversation of whether lvm thinp and btrfs should be tech previews for F20
2. jreznik to coordinate with dgilmore and dmach on getting a workable pungi fix
3. jreznik to announce slip and propose shorter beta to final period to FESCo

Action items, by person

1. cmurf
   1. cmurf and adamw to continue the conversation of whether lvm thinp and btrfs should be tech previews for F20
2. dgilmore
   1. jreznik to coordinate with dgilmore and dmach on getting a workable pungi fix
3. jreznik
   1. jreznik to coordinate with dgilmore and dmach on getting a workable pungi fix
   2. jreznik to announce slip and propose shorter beta to final period to FESCo

People present (lines said)

1. cmurf (140)
2. tflink (137)
3. jreznik (113)
4. nirik (29)
5. dgilmore (29)
6. pjones (21)
7. roshi (15)
8. jwb (13)
9. zodbot (9)
10. nangthang (4)
11. jzb (3)
12. robatino (3)
13. pwhalen (1)
14. satellit (1)
15. shaiton (1)
16. satellit_ (1)