17:01:27 <cwickert> #startmeeting FAmSCo 2013-02-25
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17:01:33 <cwickert> #meetingname famsco
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17:01:41 <cwickert> #topic Roll call
17:01:47 <cwickert> .fas cwickert
17:01:47 <zodbot> cwickert: cwickert 'Christoph Wickert' <christoph.wickert@googlemail.com>
17:02:04 <tuanta> .fas tuanta
17:02:04 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
17:02:08 <aeperezt> fas .aeperezt
17:02:16 <aeperezt> .fas aeperezt
17:02:16 <zodbot> aeperezt: aeperezt 'Alejandro Perez' <alejandro.perez.torres@gmail.com>
17:02:36 <viperboy001> .fas williamjmorenor
17:02:36 <zodbot> viperboy001: williamjmorenor 'William Moreno' <williamjmorenor@gmail.com>
17:02:43 <wporta> .fas wporta
17:02:43 <zodbot> wporta: wporta 'Wilfredo Porta' <wporta@gmail.com>
17:02:45 <alexove> .fas alexove
17:02:46 <zodbot> alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' <alleinerwolf@gmail.com>
17:02:52 <cwickert> is the timing right or is the meeting suppposed to be in an hour?
17:02:55 <viperboy001> I am ambassador at nicaragua
17:03:16 <aeperezt> cwickert, it is on time
17:03:18 <cwickert> ok
17:03:24 * cwickert is confused
17:04:02 <cwickert> nb nb_ ping
17:04:22 * cwickert counts only 3 FAmSCo members
17:04:27 <aeperezt> cwickert, think all people that is here for the Fudcon Latam review is here so
17:04:30 <aeperezt> right
17:04:42 <tuanta> ping bckurera
17:04:43 <aeperezt> Herlo send appologies on the famsco list
17:05:14 <bckurera> hi folks
17:05:56 <cwickert> #info Clint sent regrets and cannot attend, Jiri is probably not coming either. He worked hard for the Red Hat Developer Conference and took a day of today
17:06:20 <cwickert> #info present: aeperezt bckurera cwickert tuanta
17:06:29 <cwickert> #topic Announcements
17:06:33 <cwickert> any announcements?
17:07:00 * tuanta got nothing
17:07:19 <aeperezt> cwickert, nothing here
17:07:22 <cwickert> info: Red Hat developer conference took place last weekend, it was a very good event with ~600 developers and tons of talks
17:07:37 * cwickert quickly looks at the agenda
17:07:51 <tuanta> and cwickert: you was there?
17:07:51 <cwickert> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/report/9
17:08:01 <cwickert> tuanta: yes
17:08:08 <tuanta> cool :)
17:08:34 <cwickert> ok, I see nothing urgent on the agenda
17:08:49 <cwickert> but tuanta brought up the question of the APAC credit card again
17:09:03 <cwickert> I think we first should discuss the LATAM FUDCon
17:09:10 <tuanta> +1
17:09:31 <tuanta> it's higher priority
17:10:02 <cwickert> viperboy001, wporta, alexove thanks for coming. I guess you are responsible for one or the other FUDCon bid, right?
17:10:21 <wporta> yes
17:10:26 <wporta> we are from Nicaragua
17:10:30 <alexove> yes
17:10:32 <wporta> viperboy001 and me
17:10:35 <cwickert> all from Nicaragua?
17:10:37 <viperboy001> yes
17:10:42 <alexove> I'm from Cusco
17:10:56 * cwickert looks for the mail with the bids...
17:11:19 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Cusco_2013
17:11:25 <viperboy001> here is the Nicaragua ´s  proposal
17:11:26 <viperboy001> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Managua_2013
17:11:26 <tuanta> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Managua_2013
17:11:48 <cwickert> ok, thanks for the links
17:12:20 <cwickert> ok, everybody, please have a look at the wiki pages if you haven't yett
17:12:22 <cwickert> yet*
17:13:09 <bckurera> really interesting and attractive bids, good work guys :)
17:13:15 <cwickert> indeed
17:13:25 <viperboy001> thanks
17:13:33 <cwickert> there is a lot of effort in these pages, thanks a lot everybody
17:14:22 <cwickert> one minor thing: when you copy maps, please don't use Google Maps. We cannot upload content from Google to the wiki. Better use Open Streetmap
17:15:28 <tuanta> cwickert: because of licensing issues?
17:15:51 <cwickert> yes
17:15:58 <alexove> Ok taken
17:18:11 <cwickert> both bids are really impressive
17:18:17 <tuanta> we should take a look at the summary here: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/famsco/2013-February/001261.html
17:18:23 <tuanta> thanks aeperezt
17:18:29 <viperboy001> I think Neville will not be able to join this meeting
17:19:19 <cwickert> thanks for the link, tuanta
17:19:24 <tuanta> IIRC, FUDCon held in Nicaragua once?
17:19:57 <aeperezt> tuanta, no
17:20:06 <cwickert> aeperezt: can you tell us a little more about the travel costs? I am having a hard time comparing them when they are based on a different number of attendees
17:20:25 <aeperezt> cwickert, yes
17:20:50 <aeperezt> cwickert, Nicaragua has expensive travel cost for people from south of latam
17:21:05 <aeperezt> countries like Chile, Argentina
17:21:18 <aeperezt> and brasil
17:21:42 <aeperezt> the advantange is on the countries near by that can travel by bus
17:22:05 <aeperezt> for those countries travel cost can be around 100 dls
17:22:24 <tuanta> that is not the same in Peru?
17:22:40 <aeperezt> so Honduras, Guatemala, Costa Rica, Belize and El Salvador are close by
17:23:00 <aeperezt> tuanta, Peru is located more on the souht
17:23:30 <aeperezt> and has advantages on air fair for countries like Chile Argentina, Paraguay
17:23:35 <tuanta> yes, I just have found it on the map :)
17:23:41 <alexove> Bolivia to :-)
17:23:46 <aeperezt> Brasil
17:23:57 <nb> hi
17:24:02 <nb> sorry i am late
17:24:09 <cwickert> np nb :)
17:24:14 <aeperezt> but for countries on the North like Panama, Mexico, Nicaragua it will be expensive
17:24:29 <aeperezt> so it is hard to put it all in the balance
17:24:38 <tuanta> cwickert: you forgot to changed the meeting topic?
17:24:43 <aeperezt> Previus Fudcons
17:24:46 <aeperezt> on Latam
17:24:56 <cwickert> #topic FUDCon LATAM bids
17:25:06 <cwickert> #chair nb tuanta aeperezt bckurera
17:25:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: aeperezt bckurera cwickert nb tuanta
17:25:18 <aeperezt> has manage to bring people from Argentina, Brazil, Nicaragua
17:25:24 <aeperezt> and Peru
17:25:52 <tuanta> yes, I see. We have got a big community there
17:26:02 <aeperezt> so we manage to bring at least one person from all south and North of latam
17:26:28 <viperboy001> yes Nicaragua is alocted at Central America
17:26:38 <viperboy001> we think in a local event
17:27:17 <cwickert> so, I am having a hard time making a decision
17:27:23 <viperboy001> sory I mean in a event with atendance of central america and mexico colaborators
17:27:42 <cwickert> I mean, we are not here to make a decision anyway, instead we make a recommendation
17:27:52 <cwickert> the ultimate decision is up to the FPL
17:27:58 <bckurera> +1
17:28:12 <cwickert> I think both places work
17:28:18 <cwickert> and both have good teams
17:28:29 * yn1v was having internet issues
17:28:36 <cwickert> and so on... the thing that makes it difficult to decide is:
17:28:38 <aeperezt> cwickert, it is dificult with two excelent bids and the locations has chalanges that cannot be approched as easy
17:28:39 <cwickert> 1. Costs
17:28:42 <cwickert> 2. Travel
17:28:46 <aeperezt> withing a budget
17:28:58 <cwickert> aeperezt: +1
17:29:08 <cwickert> don't worry about the budget for now
17:29:18 <cwickert> we should have around USD 15k
17:29:32 <aeperezt> cwickert, the only thing I worried about Nicaragua is that it has the disavantage of paying for the location
17:29:46 <aeperezt> that is and advantage for Cusco
17:29:49 <cwickert> it's not about having the lowest price, it's about making the best of it
17:30:37 <aeperezt> what we pay for location is a latam member that will not be able to be sponsor
17:30:51 <aeperezt> viperboy001, the university will help with that?
17:30:52 <cwickert> as for the costs, I would like to ask the event owners to change their budgets that it is based on the same number of attendees, at least for lodging
17:31:05 <viperboy001> yes
17:31:15 <viperboy001> but we can not  include it in the bid
17:31:18 <viperboy001> because
17:31:34 <viperboy001> there is going to be a especial sponsoring
17:31:54 <cwickert> :(
17:32:05 <cwickert> seems they all have internet issues
17:32:14 <wporta> yes.. but I'm still in.
17:32:15 <tuanta> yes, both propose 15 double rooms
17:32:26 <aeperezt> if that is so it balance a little the bid
17:32:49 <cwickert> Cusco page reads "Lodging (double rooms for 10 people for 4 days)"
17:33:02 <cwickert> that makes me wonder if it is only 5 rooms
17:33:28 <tuanta> sorry, it's different in aeperezt's summary
17:33:29 <cwickert> Managua on the other hand have 15
17:34:04 <wporta> that's right
17:34:08 <aeperezt> cwickert, on the sumary email I did it with 15 doble room
17:34:15 <aeperezt> so we have almost same numbers
17:34:43 <cwickert> that makes it even harder then ;)
17:34:49 <wporta> if the 15 rooms are booked we can have a free saloon during night hours in the hotel
17:35:11 <tuanta> one of our most important goal is to sponsor to bring as many people as possible, right?
17:35:14 <cwickert> ok, lets say the costs are not that much different, then the other important issue is travel
17:35:21 <cwickert> tuanta: big +1
17:35:29 <cwickert> we should bring as many people together
17:36:10 <cwickert> where was the last FUDCon? was it more in the south or in central america?
17:36:11 <tuanta> so, first, we should equalize attendees in both bids, e.g. 20 (or 30) people
17:36:33 <wporta> I think it was in Venezuela.. south
17:37:01 <wporta> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Valencia_2012
17:37:21 <tuanta> Venezuela is in the middle of Nicaragua and Peru, more difficult :)
17:37:39 <wporta> Venezuela is in South America, Nicaragua is in Central America.
17:37:51 <wporta> Venezuela is closer to Peru than Nicaragua
17:38:13 <cwickert> aeperezt: did the LATAM community already discuss this?
17:38:44 <aeperezt> right
17:38:57 <yn1v_neville> I have something to say
17:39:07 <cwickert> yn1v_neville: go ahead
17:39:15 <viperboy001> sorry I had some problems witj network
17:39:23 <yn1v_neville> But I am on my phone. So be patient
17:39:29 <aeperezt> wporta, Venezuela bring balance between the people that go from central and south
17:40:01 <yn1v_neville> Saturday tjere was a meetig named fedora school
17:40:35 <aeperezt> there were 4 from Central America and 4 from south latam there where more as they pay for their tickets
17:40:36 <yn1v_neville> We are sharing knowledge to prepare conyrobutors
17:41:03 <aeperezt> sponsors by fedora was balance
17:41:17 <yn1v_neville> Lot of people want fudcon. But not every one is commited to work
17:41:47 <yn1v_neville> I would like to switch from fudcom to fad
17:41:50 <viperboy001> yes yn1v_neville is right
17:42:13 <yn1v_neville> And make a new bid for fudcom 2014
17:42:40 <tuanta> I see life is much easier now
17:42:59 <viperboy001> our comunity like the idea of Fedore event but when we asked about colaborate with something big we had a poor feedback
17:43:02 <viperboy001> :(
17:43:14 <aeperezt> yn1v_neville, if that is the case then Fudcon Cusco
17:43:15 <cwickert> yn1v_neville: thanks
17:43:37 <aeperezt> if you retract the bid
17:43:48 <aeperezt> thanks for the information
17:43:57 <viperboy001> but there is very interest in collaborate with Fedora
17:44:21 <yn1v_neville> Well I am a bit disapointed because I felt tbere was more comitmemt
17:44:39 <cwickert> yn1v_neville: I can feel your disappointment
17:45:00 <cwickert> but I think it's better to go for Cusco then
17:45:07 <yn1v_neville> I hope fedora school change that
17:45:11 <aeperezt> cwickert, right
17:45:19 <cwickert> they already have sponsors, this should make things easier
17:45:26 <aeperezt> yn1v_neville, sorry the community did not commit to it
17:45:30 <tuanta> yn1v_neville: some of you should be invited to Cusco, at least for better preparation next year
17:45:52 <yn1v_neville> Yes I want to take the oportunity to go ci c
17:45:52 <aeperezt> tuanta, that will be my recomendation
17:45:53 <cwickert> ok, is everybody fine with FAmSCo recommending Cusco then?
17:46:03 <aeperezt> yes
17:46:04 <tuanta> +1
17:46:07 <cwickert> +1
17:46:12 <aeperezt> +1
17:46:14 <yn1v_neville> Cuzco and then machupichu
17:46:17 <cwickert> nb, bckurera?
17:46:24 <yn1v_neville> ;-)
17:46:29 <cwickert> ;)
17:46:29 <viperboy001> :)
17:46:34 <bckurera> I also agree with that if the situation is like that on contribution
17:46:35 <bckurera> +1
17:46:44 * cwickert counts +4
17:46:59 <viperboy001> we are going to try to prepare a good proposal for next year
17:47:28 <tuanta> viperboy001: +1. Thanks for all your efforts
17:47:31 <wporta> yes, we will start working harder in making our local comunity stronger and find more contributors.
17:47:34 <cwickert> #info FAmSCo recommends Cusco for hosting the FUDCon LATAM 2012
17:47:45 <wporta> maybe next year we can have even more sponsors.
17:47:49 <alexove> 2012?
17:47:50 <viperboy001> at this year we are goin to be focused on  a FAD
17:47:53 <tuanta> cwickert: 2013
17:47:55 <cwickert> #undo
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17:47:58 <cwickert> #info FAmSCo recommends Cusco for hosting the FUDCon LATAM 2013
17:48:13 <viperboy001> tuanta: yn1v_neville  was working hard to on the proposal
17:48:25 <bckurera> viperboy001 : The proposal is almost great but we need people to work on, that is the hardest but the best part :)
17:48:38 <tuanta> viperboy001: yes, I meant all of you
17:48:38 <cwickert> #info FAmSCo dedicates to supporting the efforts of yn1v_neville for a FAD
17:48:49 <wporta> yes, Nicaragua cominity want to thanks  yn1v_neville for his hard work on the bid
17:49:00 <viperboy001> +1
17:49:06 <viperboy001> yes thank yn1v_neville
17:49:10 <cwickert> yn1v_neville: if you need anything for your event or for Fedora School, just let us know. we will support you whenever we can
17:49:25 <cwickert> viperboy001, wporta, yn1v_neville: thanks a lot for everything
17:49:29 <tuanta> +1
17:49:32 <wporta> :)
17:49:33 <yn1v_neville> William also helped a lot
17:49:36 <cwickert> I know how important active people are
17:49:48 <cwickert> so if you need anything to improve your community, let us know
17:50:00 <viperboy001> well i like to share the Fedora Nicaragua wiki page
17:50:00 <viperboy001> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraNi
17:50:21 <viperboy001> you will find links to the fedora school event
17:50:23 <cwickert> and when you submit a bid next year, you surely have an advantage over other bids
17:50:35 <wporta> we sure hope so
17:50:37 <wporta> :p
17:50:45 <yn1v_neville> Ok I will let you all if something is needed
17:50:45 <tuanta> viperboy001: really cool
17:50:46 <viperboy001> yes it is :)
17:50:59 <cwickert> #info support the Fedora School events of the Fedora Nicaragua community. More info at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraNi
17:51:05 <cwickert> ok, I think that's all
17:51:15 <cwickert> the final decision will be made by the FPL
17:51:40 <cwickert> but usually she agrees and will only speak up if she feels something went wrong
17:51:52 <cwickert> alexove: this means you can start working NOW :)
17:52:00 <cwickert> if you need anything, just let us know
17:52:22 <cwickert> pleae subscribe to the fudcn-planning mailing list if you haven't already
17:52:29 <cwickert> s/pleae/please
17:52:32 <tuanta> alexove: we all support you
17:52:35 <cwickert> anything else on this?
17:52:45 <nb> +1 cusco
17:52:53 * tuanta has nothing
17:53:02 <yn1v_neville> Congrats to cuzco-peru team
17:53:05 <bckurera> nothing form me
17:53:12 <wporta> congrast to Peru.
17:53:15 <viperboy001> yes congrats
17:53:18 <viperboy001> :)
17:53:23 <alexove> thank you very much friends, people eager to work here
17:53:46 * nb wonders if there has been any update on superfudcon?
17:53:49 <nb> or on budget status?
17:54:02 <nb> oh, we are not on open floor yet, sorry
17:54:30 <viperboy001> yn1v_neville: wporta can join #fedorani channle?
17:55:11 <cwickert> #topic RH Community Credit Card holder for APAC
17:55:21 <cwickert> .famsco https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/333
17:55:21 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/333
17:55:25 <wporta> viperboy001: sure
17:55:33 <cwickert> .famsco 333
17:55:33 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/333
17:55:37 <cwickert> that's better
17:56:11 <tuanta> cwickert: bckurera just sent a notice to the Ambassadors list and got response from jsimon
17:56:31 <cwickert> I know
17:56:31 <yn1v_neville> wp
17:56:31 <tuanta> meeting keyword just removed
17:56:40 <cwickert> why?
17:57:12 <tuanta> I do not see any urgent things to discuss
17:57:13 <viperboy001> regards to all, leving this channel
17:57:25 <tuanta> maybe, bckurera have something?
17:57:43 <bckurera> Nothing much still the request is with RH fianace
17:57:43 <cwickert> in long term we need a credit card in APAC
17:58:00 <cwickert> ok, lets back up for a moment
17:58:09 <cwickert> who made this request?
17:58:11 <tuanta> yes, but you know, the current status is stuck at RH finance
17:58:28 <bckurera> Robyn is managing it
17:58:45 <bckurera> cwickert : Robyn
17:58:49 <cwickert> that was not my question
17:58:56 <tuanta> and you should wait (and sometimes ping Robyn), I think
17:58:57 <cwickert> who made this decision?
17:59:33 <bckurera> refer to FAmSCo #333
17:59:47 <tuanta> AFAIK, Red Hat reserved the right to make this kind of decisions
18:00:09 <tuanta> since those credit cards are belong to them
18:00:47 <bckurera> tuanta : Yes it is, but we need a RH CC holder for APAC and we are waiting
18:00:53 <cwickert> so, I am having a problem with this request
18:01:14 <cwickert> usually, it does not work this way that you just file a ticket and ask for a credit card
18:01:34 <cwickert> instead we ask people we trust if they are willing to do this
18:01:44 <aeperezt> cwickert, +1
18:01:50 <cwickert> it's more like the mentors, you don't apply, but you get asked
18:02:16 <cwickert> bckurera: I know you had the best intentions when you filed that ticket
18:02:20 <tuanta> cwickert: bckurera would like to take this responsibility
18:02:22 <nb> #proposal ask bckurera to be cc holder :)
18:02:30 <cwickert> -1
18:02:48 <cwickert> please don't take this personally bckurera
18:02:52 <tuanta> ?
18:03:18 <tuanta> cwickert: ok, please explain all. waiting to hear from you all
18:03:35 <cwickert> A credit card holder needs to be 100% reliable, and I don't think bckurera is
18:04:06 <cwickert> we had this thing with the event he said he organized and that did not take place
18:04:25 <tuanta> so, do you think of anyone in APAC?
18:04:28 <cwickert> yes
18:04:31 <cwickert> Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail
18:04:34 <bckurera> I just need some one from APAC to have CC
18:04:45 <tuanta> cool idea
18:04:46 <bckurera> That is why I made the ticket and seek for th eapproval
18:05:20 <bckurera> I have no objection, feel free
18:05:21 <tuanta> you can even remember his full name :)
18:05:28 <cwickert> bckurera: I know, I think you have good intentions
18:05:45 <cwickert> bckurera: I think you are sometimes too ambitious and promise too much
18:06:00 <cwickert> and when you cannot keep a promise, it is very hard to admit it
18:06:08 <cwickert> you are doing a great job
18:06:25 <cwickert> just continue with it and people will appreciate it
18:06:29 <tuanta> if so, I got some others in my mind: David, Ankur and Heherson
18:06:39 <tuanta> just for backup for KageSenshi
18:06:48 <cwickert> the reason why I want to propose KageSenshi is that he already managed a FUDCon budget
18:07:00 <cwickert> and it was a pretty damn good FUDCon
18:07:08 <tuanta> +1
18:07:22 <cwickert> he does a lot of stuff, but only rarely asks for money
18:07:27 <cwickert> because he has sonsors
18:07:40 <cwickert> just like this weekend, they had an OpenShift FAD
18:07:49 <cwickert> all paid by sponsors
18:07:55 <cwickert> ok, I wil ask him
18:08:21 <bckurera> It is good if some one is willing to take that responsibility I have no objection
18:08:30 <cwickert> #action cwickert to ask KageSenshi if he is willing to manage a credit card
18:08:35 <bckurera> But after all we need to have a CC holder for APAC that matter.
18:08:41 <aeperezt> cwickert, +1
18:08:55 <tuanta> cwickert: yes, you should send an email to ask him (I can also do that if needed)
18:09:01 <cwickert> bckurera: yes, but I think you and Kagesenshi can work together just fine
18:09:22 <cwickert> tuanta: will do that. please add your nominations to the ticket, too
18:09:35 <bckurera> cwickert : yes will see it with Izar
18:10:02 <tuanta> #action cwickert to send an email to KageSenshi to ask him to hold the community card for APAC
18:10:17 <tuanta> cwickert: I will do
18:10:29 <tuanta> the same ticket #333, right?
18:10:50 * nb thinks this is bikeshedding.  i think either bckurera or kagesenshi would be fine
18:10:59 <nb> and i thought famsco already approved bckurera
18:11:24 <nb> according to ticket 333 we did on 2012-11-12
18:11:58 <cwickert> Oh, I missed that
18:12:32 <tuanta> but we can change that if we see a better choice
18:12:40 <bckurera> Yes but i would like if anyone can get the responsibility
18:12:58 <bckurera> I m fine with that :)
18:13:44 * nb does not really care if it is bckurera or KageSenshi but I don't see a need to revoke our approval of bckurera and have to go back to rh finance and change what we already requested
18:14:00 <cwickert> AFAIK nothing has really happened yet
18:14:28 <tuanta> bckurera: yes, I just want to have a trusted community card holder for APAC asap like you
18:14:32 <cwickert> bckurera: did they already ask you for personal details or sent you paperwork to sign?
18:14:59 <bckurera> No I dont
18:15:24 <cwickert> ok, I will try to check the status with rbergeron
18:15:40 <tuanta> the ball is in Robyn now
18:16:06 <bckurera> First will finalize the person, and then let the Robyn know about it
18:16:26 <bckurera> I ll write Robyn regarding this and to hold the process for now
18:16:33 <bckurera> that would be good
18:16:35 <aeperezt> bckurera, we need to know what step it is in.
18:17:03 <cwickert> ok, and I will ask Izhar asap
18:17:07 <aeperezt> And I think if the process is already on the way we don't want to delay this any more
18:17:14 <cwickert> aeperezt: ack
18:17:25 <cwickert> aeperezt: but I don't think anything is on the way
18:17:37 <cwickert> Jiri is waiting for his card for over a year now
18:17:41 <bckurera> aeperezt : Will see I dont think it has gone far
18:17:45 <cwickert> and he even is a RH employee
18:17:46 <tuanta> ok, lets check with rbergeron
18:17:49 <cwickert> ack
18:17:56 <cwickert> I'll take care of this
18:18:03 <cwickert> anything eles about this?
18:18:07 <aeperezt> cwickert, if he is RH employee I think approval will be faster
18:18:11 <tuanta> nothing
18:18:16 <cwickert> aeperezt: you wish :)
18:18:16 <aeperezt> so that is a good poit
18:18:41 <bckurera> cwickert ; Since I start the process I think I need to discuss with Robyn
18:18:42 <aeperezt> cwickert, may be I'm naibe about RH
18:18:42 <cwickert> do we have anybody from RH?
18:19:00 <cwickert> if the person works for RH, things are way easier
18:19:05 <tuanta> Harish :)
18:19:08 <cwickert> :(
18:19:11 <nb> :(
18:19:31 <cwickert> we first of all need somebody who is responsive, and Harish is not
18:19:58 <cwickert> so does anybody know somebody who is active in the ambassadors, from APAC and does work for RH?
18:20:00 <tuanta> we may have someone in India, right?
18:20:10 <cwickert> I think Rahul is no longer in India
18:20:18 <tuanta> :(
18:20:24 <cwickert> maybe Ankur? does he work for RH?
18:20:33 <tuanta> actually, no
18:20:59 <tuanta> he is a student right now
18:21:20 <cwickert> ok, then I have no idea
18:21:29 <cwickert> lets go with the candidates we had
18:21:36 <tuanta> +1
18:22:26 <cwickert> I'll ask Izhar and if that doesn't work out, we should think of the people that tuanta listed
18:22:35 <cwickert> tuanta: add them to the wiki please
18:22:42 <cwickert> anything else?
18:23:02 <tuanta> cwickert: which wiki page are you talking about?
18:23:02 <cwickert> doesn't seem so
18:23:10 <cwickert> sorry, ticket
18:23:15 <tuanta> ok, I see
18:23:21 <cwickert> #topic Open Floor
18:23:29 <cwickert> I think nb had some questions
18:23:41 <cwickert> one was about the SuperFUDCon
18:23:54 <cwickert> yes, I think it will take happen
18:24:13 <cwickert> at least that's what spot said earlier today when we had bearkfast
18:24:24 <tuanta> great!
18:24:32 <cwickert> it will probably be in summer, whatever that means
18:24:44 <cwickert> that means we are running out of time basically
18:25:01 <cwickert> but there is no decision and no budget for it yet
18:25:09 <cwickert> and that brings us to the next question
18:25:16 <cwickert> nothing new about the budget
18:25:24 <cwickert> at least not that I am aware off
18:25:53 <cwickert> IIRC Jiri said that RH is not yet done with their financial planning
18:26:00 <cwickert> I suggest we just spend money as planned
18:26:11 <cwickert> because the new fiscal year starts in 4 days
18:26:22 <tuanta> +1
18:26:28 <aeperezt> +1
18:26:36 <cwickert> I'd rather spend too much than too little ;)
18:26:40 <nb> +1
18:26:47 <tuanta> ;)
18:27:05 * nb buys over 9,000 ponies
18:27:25 <cwickert> nb: APPROVED :D
18:27:28 <nb> :)
18:27:44 <cwickert> ok, I think that's it for today
18:27:53 <tuanta> +1
18:28:05 <cwickert> I just came home from Devconf and need to go for shopping now
18:28:13 * cwickert will close the meeting in 5
18:28:14 <tuanta> we should end the meeting now
18:28:15 <cwickert> 4
18:28:16 <cwickert> 3
18:28:18 <cwickert> 2
18:28:19 <cwickert> 1
18:28:22 <cwickert> #endmeeting