15:30:10 <davdunc[m> #startmeeting fedora_cloud_meeting 15:30:10 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jan 6 15:30:10 2022 UTC. 15:30:10 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:30:10 <zodbot> The chair is davdunc[m. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 15:30:10 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:30:10 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_cloud_meeting' 15:30:15 <jdoss> .hello 15:30:15 <zodbot> jdoss: (hello <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1". 15:30:21 <jdoss> .hi 15:30:22 <zodbot> jdoss: jdoss 'Joe Doss' <joe@solidadmin.com> 15:30:28 <davdunc[m> #topic roll call 15:30:32 <mhayden> .hi 15:30:33 <zodbot> mhayden: mhayden 'Major Hayden' <mhayden@redhat.com> 15:30:34 <jdoss> I can only stay for 20ish 15:30:44 <davdunc[m> jdoss: that's all we have really. 15:30:48 <mhayden> 👋🏻 15:30:51 <davdunc[m> #topic roll call 15:30:58 <jdoss> Whats up Major 15:31:06 <davdunc[m> #chair mhayden jdoss 15:31:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: davdunc[m jdoss mhayden 15:31:17 <mhayden> howdy jdoss! happy new year to everyone. 15:31:32 <jdoss> Same to you bud. 15:32:42 <davdunc[m> alright. 15:32:52 <davdunc[m> I am going to move to action items. 15:32:53 <dustymabe> .hi 15:32:54 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dusty@dustymabe.com> 15:33:07 <davdunc[m> #chair dustymabe 15:33:07 <zodbot> Current chairs: davdunc[m dustymabe jdoss mhayden 15:33:13 <Eighth_Doctor> .hello ngompa 15:33:14 <zodbot> Eighth_Doctor: ngompa 'Neal Gompa' <ngompa13@gmail.com> 15:33:25 <davdunc[m> #chair Conan_Kudo 15:33:25 <zodbot> Current chairs: Conan_Kudo davdunc[m dustymabe jdoss mhayden 15:33:25 <jdoss> Heck yeah Dusty and Neal 15:33:40 <davdunc[m> okay. 15:33:54 <davdunc[m> #topic Action items from last meeting 15:34:17 <mhayden> our action items are so last year 😉 15:34:23 <jdoss> lol 15:34:43 <Eighth_Doctor> 😆 15:34:53 <davdunc[m> create a tracking ticket (if one doesn't already exist) and 15:34:53 <davdunc[m> lead up efforts to re-instate Cloud as an edition 15:35:03 <davdunc[m> that's the first one we should discuss. 15:35:31 <davdunc[m> mhayden: we discussed this in mid november. 15:36:01 <davdunc[m> do you want to handle creating the tracking ticket? 15:36:07 <mhayden> yup, i remember -- we took a vote on it if i remember correctly 15:36:28 <mhayden> sure, is this in a BZ or a different type of tracking ticket? 15:36:55 <davdunc[m> i don't remember what we decided, but we need one in the cloud-sig for tracking anyway. 15:37:53 <davdunc[m> let's just get that done first and call that the action from last meeting and track our progress there. 15:37:53 <mhayden> ah, now i remember -- in here? https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issues 15:38:11 <davdunc[m> That's the best place to start, I think. 15:38:56 <mhayden> #action mhayden to make a tracking ticket for re-instating cloud as a fedora edition over at https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issues 15:39:22 <davdunc[m> anyone think we need to start somewhere different or follow up immediately somewhere? I think we just need to outline our planning and build our documents out with this as our tracking ticket. 15:39:45 <davdunc[m> thanks mhayden let's hit the next one. 15:40:03 <davdunc[m> davdunc to follow up with jdoss on driving the adoption of ignition 15:40:03 <davdunc[m> along with cloud-init 15:40:12 <davdunc[m> jdoss didn't hear from me. we holiday'ed. 15:40:22 <davdunc[m> so that's still an action item. 15:40:36 <davdunc[m> #action davdunc to follow up with jdoss on driving the adoption of ignition 15:40:36 <davdunc[m> along with cloud-init 15:41:01 <davdunc[m> but that's something we should review in open floor later related to networking. 15:41:07 <davdunc[m> okay. 15:41:39 <davdunc[m> #topic 358 F35 not published to fedora-cloud on GCE 15:41:49 <davdunc[m> #link https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/358 15:42:05 <davdunc[m> I think that we have this one pretty much contained, but it's not automated. 15:42:29 <davdunc[m> eric reached out and dustymabe made us a video for the upload process. 15:43:05 <dustymabe> yep 15:43:12 <dustymabe> I think I linked the video too 15:43:27 <davdunc[m> mhayden and I discussed the work around the gcloud tools this morning. It looks like we aren't going to have those in a simple package in the short-term. 15:43:31 <davdunc[m> dustymabe: you did. 15:43:41 <davdunc[m> dustymabe ++ 15:43:49 <mhayden> if anyone has a contact in the land of google (especially on the developer/sdk side), i'd love to reach out to them. 15:44:05 <mhayden> i've been hitting dead ends so far via github + email 😢 15:44:12 <dustymabe> I assume we could ask eric/zac (assuming he is still there) 15:44:13 <davdunc[m> mhayden: the ticket was opened by one of the google engineers. 15:44:19 <davdunc[m> we should be able to hit him up. 15:44:41 <mhayden> davdunc[m: oh, i was talking about the SDK packaging, not the image itself, but that might be a good person to ask nonetheless 15:44:55 <davdunc[m> yea let's try and see who ericedens can get us too. 15:45:01 <dustymabe> yeah they can point us in the right direction 15:45:04 <davdunc[m> yea the gcloud stuff is necessary for the upload. 15:45:24 <davdunc[m> so it's tied together for the automation -- at least i think it is. 15:45:33 <mhayden> 👍🏻 15:45:41 <davdunc[m> okay. 15:46:00 <mhayden> #action mhayden to talk to ericedens about packaging the google-cloud-sdk 📦 15:46:07 <jdoss> Sorry, in two meetings davdunc[m I still want to explore getting ignition support 15:46:39 <davdunc[m> jdoss: yes jdoss I think it's an important discussion/action 15:47:21 <davdunc[m> sooner rather than later. 15:47:51 <davdunc[m> Alright. For the google cloud stuff. On this topic, I don't see the automation happening until we have the gcloud pakcaging sorted. 15:48:03 <davdunc[m> (we might be able to use libcloud) 15:48:35 <davdunc[m> let's look at how eric can help us there. 15:48:50 <davdunc[m> #action davdunc to look at image upload using libcloud 15:48:58 <dustymabe> ehh 15:49:19 <davdunc[m> I spent some time doing a 2 to 3 conversion on fedimg over the holiday. it wasn't difficult and it is necessary to use the latest libcloud. 15:49:40 <dustymabe> I thought we had decided to go with kiwi OR ore for thi 15:49:41 <davdunc[m> dustymabe say more. 15:49:42 <dustymabe> this* 15:49:50 <davdunc[m> oh yea. 15:50:00 <jdoss> ore is what FCOS uses right? 15:50:00 <dustymabe> I don't know if kiwi requires `gcloud` cli to be installed, but I know `ore` doesn't 15:50:07 <dustymabe> correct 15:50:27 * mhayden has pushed send on the email to eric @ google 15:50:38 <davdunc[m> 👍️ 15:50:59 <mhayden> i promised him cookies and that davdunc[m was buying 🍪 15:51:01 <davdunc[m> Conan Kudo: do you know if the gcloud cli is required for kiwi? 15:51:11 <davdunc[m> haha. It wouldn't be the first time! 15:51:25 <davdunc[m> he is awesome! 15:51:49 <davdunc[m> okay. I think we have a plan of action here. 15:52:19 <jdoss> I gotta bounce later folks 15:52:22 <davdunc[m> we need to determine the gcloud cli distribution model and then make a decision based on that. 15:52:24 <Eighth_Doctor> davdunc: it is not, but we'll need it for uploading images 15:52:25 <davdunc[m> jdoss thanks! 15:52:29 <mhayden> 👋🏻 bye jdoss 15:52:46 <davdunc[m> Conan Kudo: that's what I figured. 15:52:56 <mhayden> for what it's worth, i have lots of pieces of the SDK for Google Cloud packaged (python) that gcloud needs 15:53:04 <davdunc[m> jdoss: I'll get with you tomorrow or monday on the ignition piece. 15:53:05 <mhayden> still some reviews remaining (about 8) 15:53:39 <davdunc[m> mhayden: if we have what we need to automate the upload, that might be enough. 15:53:52 <davdunc[m> if the python components are sufficient that is. 15:54:08 <mhayden> ah good point -- i am happy to prioritize the packaging work for whichever SDKs are needed for that 15:54:46 <davdunc[m> but regardless, we know we still need discovery and planning for the automation. The next topic should cover what we need for the interim. 15:55:14 <davdunc[m> #topic 357 create a release checklist 15:55:15 <mhayden> woot 15:55:26 <davdunc[m> #link https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/357 15:55:58 <davdunc[m> :) So we need to have a definitive release checklist so we can pat each other on the back because it's done and we don't have anything left to complete. :D 15:56:53 <davdunc[m> I think that we should use the wiki for now to put that together. 15:56:59 <mhayden> seems reasonable 15:57:53 <mhayden> i have a video meeting starting at the top of the hour 15:58:16 <davdunc[m> mhayden: thanks for being here. 15:58:23 <mhayden> anytime 😉 15:58:27 <davdunc[m> I started the meeting late, so we should wrap up here. 15:58:37 <davdunc[m> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG is where I'll start the checklist. 15:58:53 <davdunc[m> then we will move it to the appropriate location when it is completedd. 15:59:12 <davdunc[m> #action davdunc to create the wiki checklist at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG 15:59:15 <davdunc[m> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG 15:59:22 <davdunc[m> #open floor 15:59:30 <davdunc[m> #topic open floor 15:59:59 <davdunc[m> we are out of time, so just want to make this a point where we can say anything that needs to be in the next meeting. 16:00:29 <davdunc[m> anyone have anything hot. 16:00:37 <davdunc[m> there is the change in networking 16:01:01 <davdunc[m> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoIfcfgFiles 16:01:19 <davdunc[m> I think we need to be reviewing this and it is directly related to the ignition initiative. 16:01:39 <davdunc[m> so let's keep chatting on this on the mailing list and irc as we can. 16:02:04 <davdunc[m> okay. I'll end there one minute over. 16:02:11 <davdunc[m> #endmeeting