15:30:29 <nirik> #startmeeting Fedora Mobility SIG 15:30:29 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Jul 12 15:30:29 2021 UTC. 15:30:29 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:30:29 <zodbot> The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:30:29 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:30:29 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_mobility_sig' 15:30:29 <nirik> #meeting_name fedora_mobility_sig 15:30:29 <nirik> #chair torbuntu pbrobinson _Yoda_ 15:30:29 <nirik> #topic init process 15:30:29 <zodbot> Current chairs: _Yoda_ nirik pbrobinson torbuntu 15:30:49 * torsh[m] waves 15:30:54 * jgrulich is present 15:32:24 <nirik> lets wait a min or two more for folks. 15:32:35 <thunderbirdtr> hello / 15:32:38 <thunderbirdtr> o/ 15:32:41 <thunderbirdtr> .fas thunderbirdtr 15:32:42 <zodbot> thunderbirdtr: thunderbirdtr 'Onuralp SEZER' <thunderbirdtr@gmail.com> 15:33:26 <torsh[m]> .fas torbuntu 15:33:27 <zodbot> torsh[m]: torbuntu '' <sorensentor@tuta.io> 15:33:51 <nirik> #topic plasma mobile / working with kde sig 15:34:14 <nirik> so the first topic I had was working with the plasma folks on a mobile plasma... 15:36:16 <nirik> which is a great idea... 15:36:37 <torsh[m]> What sorts of collaborative efforts can be made? 15:37:06 <jgrulich> https://pagure.io/fedora-mobility/issue/10 15:37:11 <torsh[m]> Right now, as far as cross work goes, the only thing I can think of is the device level work in Kernel and related. 15:37:33 <nirik> well, we still have the issue with the pinephone and upstream kernel 15:37:34 <nirik> yeah 15:40:19 <jgrulich> we have to make sure all Plasma Mobile stuff is packaged, recently I worked on Maliit keyboard (on-screen keyboard), I think most of Plasma Mobile stuff can be also tested without having a phone and bootable image 15:40:39 <jgrulich> we as Fedora KDE SIG 15:41:32 <jgrulich> OnuralpSezer[m]: is making some progress on the packaging 15:42:20 <OnuralpSezer[m]> For "plasma mobile" releated packages, I complete "mauikit" framework and most of the "mobile apps" and soon I'm going to send plasma-mobile main packages and also I'll update ticket (https://pagure.io/fedora-kde/SIG/issue/41) here as well 15:43:08 <OnuralpSezer[m]> After I send generally all the packages, we can start makes "iso" files and start using on VM/Real phone hardware as well 15:44:17 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Side note : ticket is kinda "not updated" much I need to update that more often which I'll do it very soon. 15:45:23 <OnuralpSezer[m]> and after done If I miss any package, please let me know, I'll try to add into my list and finish along with Fedora KDE sig team as well. 15:45:49 <OnuralpSezer[m]> that's pretty much all for me. 15:46:05 <jgrulich> nirik: torsh[m]: is there anything we can help with? Note that we are mostly packages and developers on "app" level, but if there is anything, please let us know. 15:46:15 <jgrulich> *packagers 15:46:23 <nirik> well, the big thing we need is some kind of working network with the fedora kernel... 15:46:32 <torsh[m]> ^ 15:46:52 <nirik> either wifi, or modem or usb 15:48:17 <OnuralpSezer[m]> is usb wifi adaptor to "usb cable" -> phone not working ? nirik ? 15:48:35 <OnuralpSezer[m]> or no "usb" at all ? 15:48:50 <tdawson> ls 15:48:54 <jgrulich> I see, I guess none of them work out of the box, are there any upstream changes we can pick and try (like people with the device can try)? 15:49:20 <torsh[m]> Last I tried I don't think I could even charge my device on mainline. 15:50:48 <OnuralpSezer[m]> so, "wifi,bt,usb charge,usb functionality not working ? even LTE modem as well too ? 15:51:08 <nirik> none of them work on the vanilla/fedora kernel I don't think... 15:51:13 <torsh[m]> Correct, none. 15:51:15 <nirik> I haven't tied in a while. 15:51:28 <torsh[m]> I haven't seen anything change lately 🤷♂️ 15:52:22 <nirik> that takes us to... 15:53:24 <nirik> #topic remix status / issues / plans 15:53:51 <nirik> once we have all the plasma packages packaged we could look at making images for it like we do the phosh based one now? 15:54:11 <torsh[m]> not sure if this is the right topic, but I am blocked on updating Phosh because it needs some stuff in glib 2.69 which was recently released, but hasn't made it to rawhide yet https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/glib2 15:54:11 <yoda[m]> I already made a Plasma image 15:54:36 <yoda[m]> It just only shows sted Plasma Desktop for now 15:54:52 <nirik> yoda[m]: cool! 15:55:08 <nirik> torsh[m]: ah, bummer. is that in a release upsteram yet? 15:55:36 <thunderbirdtr> yoda[m]: is it plasma mobile or "normal kde version of plasma" ? 15:55:38 <torsh[m]> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glib/-/commit/0b2f48022b5c5cc774644142f16c2960468d27a2 15:55:41 <torsh[m]> should be in this. 15:56:26 <nirik> torsh[m]: cool. I would expect that to land very soon in rawhide. If it doesn't in the next few days let me know and I can poke folks. 15:56:26 <torsh[m]> `!2120 gdbusobjectmanagerclient: Call GetManagedObjects async` 15:56:37 <yoda[m]> It is made as plasma-mobile - but the plasma-mobile package is missing. Only packages from isse 10 is included 15:56:37 <torsh[m]> Thanks nirik! 15:57:19 <OnuralpSezer[m]> .yoda: I'll add all okay thank you. 15:57:48 <nirik> once things are in also you probibly want a comps group to make it easy to install it. 15:58:01 <OnuralpSezer[m]> yes 15:59:10 <nirik> cool. 15:59:38 <nirik> #topic fedora mainline plans 15:59:58 <nirik> I'll try a rawhide again this week and see if anything started magically working... 16:00:07 <nirik> failing that we are still in our normal holding pattern. 16:00:16 <nirik> any other upstream news/issues? 16:00:55 <torsh[m]> Just the usual package updates. Nothing earth shattering just yet there. 16:01:49 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 16:01:56 <nirik> any other things to discuss/bring up? 16:02:44 <torsh[m]> I haven't updated the megi kernel in a while, but I always get nervous doing that since I'm still not 100% confident I know how it is all working. 16:03:31 <torsh[m]> I'd like to get the 5.14 kernel going, but (I know I asked already but I forget) does that require a new boot package as well? 16:03:35 <nirik> I wonder if there's any other newer phone hardware that might be supported we could try and target... but I never manage to find anything. :( 16:03:51 <nirik> it shouldn't I would not think... 16:03:55 <torsh[m]> I've been half watching the oneplus 6 16:04:21 <torsh[m]> > it shouldn't I would not think... 16:04:21 <torsh[m]> Ok, cool, I'll give that a try this week then. (kernel 5.14) 16:04:21 <OnuralpSezer[m]> most of them has "blobs" finding real open is kinda hard 16:05:03 <nirik> yeah. Or are locked. Or need special bootloaders. 16:05:15 <nirik> yeah, the oneplus 6 looked interesting... 16:05:22 <nirik> see https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/OnePlus_6_(oneplus-enchilada) 16:05:32 <torsh[m]> ^ yes 16:05:33 <OnuralpSezer[m]> even postmarketOS phones list show that too... 16:06:15 * nirik nods sadly. 16:06:25 <nirik> ok, if nothing else can close out in a minute... 16:07:15 <torsh[m]> Sounds good. Thanks again nirik! 16:07:31 <OnuralpSezer[m]> Thank you nirik 16:08:01 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone! 16:08:04 <nirik> #endmeeting